Sometimes you just have to laugh. This is one of those times. I’ve been put in my place by an “urban coyote poet” for daring to publish on this blog.
Elmer (of M4GW, not M4CC), Chris Monckton, and I , apparently are threats to democracy, and mentally imbalanced too, because apparently a radio station personality, Sue Jeffers, is using WUWT as references on air in Minneapolis. Observe:
She browbeat him with a torrent of misinformation: There is no global warming; polar bears are not in trouble; consult the work of “Lord” Monckton; on and on.
I wondered where she got this nonsense, so I checked her website. There she promotes links to the Republican Party, the Tea Party, and a site called “Minnesotans for Climate Change,” which is linked regularly to Wattsupwiththat.com. Mystery solved — mad Anthony Watts is a major source for the misinformation she dumps on her listeners.
Oh, the humanity! I’m apparently mad as a hatter. I’ll give the advice I give radio listeners that sometimes write in to my own radio station to demand that some program be taken off or censored: you have control of your own radio receiver, if the program doesn’t suit you, change the station. You are not being forced to listen.
The rant continues:
Then there is “Lord” Christopher Monckton, neither a lord nor a scientist, whose job in England appears to be deputy head of a right-wing nationalist party. In the United States, he serves as “policy advisor” to an infamous climate-denial website, apparently qualified for the position by his degrees in classics and journalism.
It is notable when poets consider themselves qualified to pronounce “climate truth”, and to pronounce others as being “mad” for having a differing opinion but people with backgrounds in mathematics (Monckton) and meteorology (myself) are not. Oh, the ironing.
You can read the entire Lenfestey opinion piece at the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:
The state of fear at the new year
I thank Mr. Lenfestey for bringing hundreds of new visitors to WUWT, perhaps they’ll take time to read and consider rather than simply taking an emotional stance as Mr. Lenfestey has done.
Readers may want to get background on Mr. Lenfestey at his website – I particularly liked this photo in relation to his book of poetry anthology LOW DOWN AND COMING ON; A FEAST OF DELICIOUS AND DANGEROUS POEMS ABOUT PIGS (Red Dragonfly Press, 2010)
UPDATE: Chris Monckton sends this letter:
To The Editor, Star Tribune.
2 January 2012
Sir,
Climate: get the facts right
Mr. Lenfestey (January 1), in an article about the climate that remarkably presented not a single fact about the climate, says I gave a “misleading” presentation at Bethel University in 2009. That presentation was truthful, while the driveling attempted rebuttal of it by a non-climatologist at a local bible college, gleefully referenced by Mr. Lenfesty, was full of elementary errors of science, of fact, and even of arithmetic. Would it not have been fairer also to give the URL of my detailed and, indeed, devastating reply to this mendacious nitwit? See scienceandpublicpolicy.org/reprint/response_to_john_abraham.html?Itemid=0.
Here are a few facts about the climate. This millennium there has been no statistically-significant global warming (UAH and RSS satellite data, 2001-2011). Sea level has been rising for the past eight years at a rate equivalent to 2 inches per century (Envisat, 2004-2011). Pacific atolls are gaining land mass, as is Bangladesh, where sea level has been falling (Mörner, 2011). Global sea-ice extent has hardly changed in 30 years (University of Illinois cryosphere data, 1980-2011). Hurricanes, typhoons and tropical cyclones are at near-record lows of activity (Accumulated Cyclone-Energy Index, 2011).
It is at least ten times cheaper simply to adapt to any warming that may occur than to tax, trade, regulate, reduce or replace CO2 (President Vaclav Klaus, lecture at Cambridge University, May 2011). Besides, China, which already emits more CO2 than the entire West, will continue to build one or two large coal-fired power stations a week (annual official PRC statistical communiques, 2008-2010).
Authorities are investigating the tiny, malevolent clique of politically-motivated scientists behind the now-collapsing climate scare for downright scientific fraud against taxpayers: ag.virginia.gov/Media%20and%20News%20Releases/News_Releases/Cuccinelli/100410_UVA_Mann_Docs.html).
A growing body of learned papers concludes that the warming we cause will be about one-third of what the IPCC predicts, so it will be harmless and even beneficial (Lindzen & Choi, 2009, 2011; Spencer & Braswell, 2010, 2011; Douglass et al., 2008; Shaviv, 2008, 2011; etc., etc.).
Finally, Mr. Lenfestey puzzlingly says I am not a Lord. But I am (Who’s Who, 2007-2011).
Yours faithfully,
MONCKTON OF BRENCHLEY (by Letters Patent granted to my late grandfather in 1957).
Correct me if I’m wrong, but is this guy the one on the left, in both photos?
“Dogs Look up to us,cats look down on us,
Pigs treat us as equals. ”
Winston S. Churchill..
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M R P I G S
M R NOT P I G S
O S A R
L I B
M R P I G S
well Lenfestey’s been shouting but it probably achieves little to shout back. I think he looks decent. Don’t forget folk have been indoctrinated and don’t know it. Can we do better?
Lenfestey – ey – ey – ey!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would you like to come here and have a debate??????????
Set your terms re courtesy etc. I’m hoping Anthony can invite you to put up your own piece. We know that what’s missing is open debate. But you don’t know that and it doesn’t sound plausible. But say your piece and let us help you as best we can.
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Another solution is inspired by Ross McKitrick’s recent Canada Senate speech. If the Senate takes Ross’ stuff on board, why not get leaflets printed for every home in Canada – just like happened when Steve McIntyre got a hockeystick graph through his letterbox that looked seriously in need of investigating? Bypass MSM.
Many years ago, when sometimes cheques had this bad habit of bouncing, a small working-class day-restaurant had this notice attached on the wall next to the cash till:
WE HAVE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH OUR BANK; THEY DON’T SERVE FOOD AND WE DON’T CASH CHEQUES.
I believe that this a very good advise for many people, such as poets, who should keep on producing beautiful poetry, but leave the science to the scientists. Lenfestey please note.
Hrmmm, a meteorologist is unqualified to opine on climate, but a pig poet is?
Personally, I think anyone who has a book called “LOW DOWN AND COMING ON; A FEAST OF DELICIOUS AND DANGEROUS POEMS ABOUT PIGS” ought to be just a tad reluctant to be tossing around the word “mad”.
Well, I keep trying to make the case for calling the new epoch the anthroporcine.
I guess this must be one of the “cowboy” poets Harry Reid was lamenting would go extinct without government funding.
Lucy is right.
I apologize for my boarishness
Listen to the trees
Just one time to discover
Twigs tell jokes to grass
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Ed Moran. says:
January 3, 2012 at 10:22 am
“Been there: read his article. My advice? Don’t waste your time. He’s a cherry-picking numpty!”
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The horror…
Now I know who this song was about:
One evening in October
When I was about one-third sober
And was taking home a load with manly pride
My poor feet began to stutter
So I lay down in the gutter
And a pig came up and lay down by my side
Then we sang “It’s All Fair Weather”
And “Good Fellows Get Together”
Till a lady passing by was heard to say
She says, “You can tell a man who boozes
By the company he chooses”
And the pig got up and slowly walked away
Lenfestey made the cardinal mistake of linking to the enemy – something that, for instance, the BBC or the German media avoid like the plague.
We should thank him for giving his readers the opportunity of looking around here.
Tthe Whisperer states “Instead of discussing how world carbon emissions are rapidly destabilizing the atmosphere and oceans…” No need to read on. Urgent need to wipe up the coughed up hot chocolate off my screen.
When a man who converses with trees and consorts with hogs calls you a nut, no response is really necessary. It’s obvious who holds the higher ground.
We needed some comic relief. Thanks, Mr. Lenfestey. Why don’t you do an article for WUWT and educate us backwards skeptics?
rwct says: “HMMMM. The TREE Whisperer. Anyone know what they whisper to him…?
“Sap!”
Oh, and did you notice the photo on top of the Lenfestey article? It shows an iceberg and this text:
“FILE – In this July 19, 2007 file photo an iceberg is seen off Ammassalik Island in Eastern Greenland. A new assessment of climate change in the Arctic shows the ice in the region is melting faster than previously thought and sharply raises projections of global sea level rise this century.”
Let’s google that; ok, it’s from May 2011:
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/984708–arctic-ice-melting-faster-new-climate-report-says
So, it’s not exactly “NEW” as in “NEWSpaper”; and the people at the Star Tribune were too lazy to add this information or even find it out, or maybe they didn’t want to tell because they couldn’t have called it a “NEW assessment”.
Hmm, can we call that lazy, sloppy, deceiving? Yes we can! Now that’s the kind of company Lenfestey works with, much sloppier than even the smallest skeptic blog, now how much credibility does that give him? That’s right – not all that much. Incompetence is no excuse; using google isn’t that hard.
I know, this is all the usual drill in the mainstream media, yet it is sloppiness like that that separates badly made propaganda from trustworthy information.
John T: “Its about two key questions (at least to me). How much has the earth warmed? And how much of that is due to CO2 (it may be negligible, it may be significant)? Those questions haven’t been satisfactorily answered,”
The second question has been answered: zero. Yes 0.00000…
The real question that has never been answered is “How does the cold atmosphere send back radiation to an already warmer surface and, as a result, further warm the surface?”
Neither the IPCC nor anyone else has ever been able to prove that this is a physical possibility, because it isn’t. And now we have Professors Claes Johnson and Nasif Nahle proving that it isn’t, both mathematically and empirically.
Radiation with frequency below the cut off level (determined by Wien’s Displacement Law) is immediately re-emitted (just as if reflected) and does not leave behind any energy to cause warming. Only high energy (high frequency) direct solar radiation is able to knock electrons out of orbit and lead to a conversion of its energy to thermal energy. It cannot be re-emitted because its frequency is above the cut-off for typical surface temperatures, so its energy is conserved in the form of heat. There’s more on this on my site.*
Folks, the paradigm has changed. There is absolutely no warming effect from carbon dioxide. In fact there may be a slight cooling effect as it perhaps blocks some IR from the Sun which might have warmed cold areas on Earth and also as it helps to radiate away thermal energy (“heat”) which oxygen and nitrogen channel through it by diffusion.
Please stop talking about sensitivity being much less and all that. There is no sensitivity. We need zero tolerance of all the garbage relating to back radiation warming the surface.
Above all, we need a united front on this. Someone with influence please tell Monckton.
Anthony, please tell the world!
* http://climate-change-theory.com
Anthony i believe we have found out Micheal Manns nature trick, he got this NUT to whisper to the tree rings to tell him what the temps were for the past 1500 years. But evidently he did not understand them for the last 50 years.
I have said it before and it bears repeating, a Meteorologist is a real climate scientist!!
More captions for pix 1
Dude, shush, I think I hear the ocean,,
Skin tag my ass, now look at my ear
I could make a really neat bong out of this to add to my collection
Maybe if I hide here the woodpeckers will stop landing on my head
I thought only Hobbits talked to trees.
Monckton always makes me smile, he has such a way with words!
rwct said:
January 3, 2012 at 10:17 am
HMMMM. The TREE Whisperer. Anyone know what they whisper to him…
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You’re barking mad! Bough-wow!
Re: the “having a beer with a pig” happy snap, there is a bear just out of frame, yes ?
Tsk, tsk. “I’m apparently mad as a hatter.” You’re forgetting your basic Political Correctness Observance camouflage … “I’m apparently differently sane as a hatter.”, please! 🙂