How to Create Carbon Credits – Kill a Camel.
By Viv Forbes
The people who brought us pink-bats and cash-for-clunkers have a new scheme – we can earn carbon credits by shooting wild camels, humanely of course.
Surely it would be far easier to shoot tame cattle? There are big mobs near all of our northern ports, going nowhere.
And if greens have their way and stop all live exports, we can earn heaps more by shooting millions of sheep and goats, humanely of course.
What about those mobs of kangaroos? They burn carbon fuel and emit dreaded carbon dioxide. Why should they be spared when the future of the planet is at stake?
One small problem – what do we do with all those carcasses? Left alone they will release all the carbon sequestered within their bodies within a couple of weeks, thus incurring massive carbon debits.
And who counts the dead camels? To prevent carbon cull fraud the economy will boom with jobs for regulators, inspectors, auditors and prosecutors.
And of course, we must not burn diesel, av-gas or gun powder to do the slaughter, so the hunting must be done from horses using bows and arrows.
And if killing camels earns carbon credits, why can’t cattle, sheep and goat abattoirs also earn them?
(Just think of the ball the camel killers could have among the 200 million sacred cows in India.)
First they came for camels, and I did nothing.
Then they came for cattle, and I did nothing.
Then they came for me.
Further Comment:
Wild camels are a valuable resource for those with eyes not blinded by the smog of global warming dogma. Here is a comment we made two years ago when this silly suggestion first surfaced:
http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/camel-cull.pdf
And here is a comment by Paddy McHugh who actually knows something about camels:
http://www.paddymchugh.com/pdfs/Camel%20Cull%20a%20Blind%20Mans%20solution…pdf
Does anyone believe that riflemen in helicopters will kill every camel cleanly and painlessly? Yet our whole live export industry is threatened for a few misdeeds. Here is the most likely final product from the carbon credit harvesters:
Here is the final product from the live camel harvesters:
Think this is all a hoax? Then check this out:
Yep, our bureaucrats have put together a 62 page proposal to issue carbon credits for killing feral camels. They note that there is not much use in killing an old camel so the cullers will be required to declare the age of each camel killed, so that that the Government auditors can determine how much pollution will be saved. To help this complex calculation the government is researching the average life expectancy for feral camels.
The document is full of endless dribble, including how the cullers discount the credits they will get by the amount of pollution that is created by the culling.
Here is a sample:
“There are two options for measuring fuel consumption for EVc,j,y as detailed below. Option 1 is preferred.
Option 1) Recording of all fuel purchased or pumped for use in these vehicles during the management activities.
Option 2) Recording of all ground vehicle and fuel types and odometer readings before and after management activities.
For Option 2 the amount of fuel consumed is calculated by taking the fuel consumption rating of the vehicle as a litres per kilometre figure and multiplying this by the kilometres of travel undertaken as part of the management activity, then divided by 1000 to convert to kiloLitres, as per the equation below:
Where:
| GDgv,c,j,y | = | Ground distance travelled by vehicle gv using fuel type j in undertaking the management activities c in year y |
| LPKgv,j | = | Litres of fuel type j combusted per kilometre for vehicle gv” |
(Thanks to Helen Dyer for this explanation of the calculations.)
A print-ready copy of this issue of “Carbon Sense” with all pictures can be downloaded from:
http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/camel-cull-credits.pdf
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So if that camel was in Africa the farts would be acceptable?
These people has completely lost their mind.
Period.
I think we can now rephrase the famous saying:
Where camels are being killed, people will soon follow.
Fair dinkum the ALP in australia have gone mad.
Wouldn’t shooting termites be a lot more effective??
I still think we should hire the boat immigrants to go camel hunting, to make sure its is killed in the ‘proper’ fashion, then export the meat to Indonesia.
I’m no bleeding heart but this makes me sick!
The Australian labor government and the Eco fascist Greens have become very sick, it would be justice to force march these carbon exhaling monsters into the outback and allow hunters to practice their Carbon credit skills on them.
Because of ideology, they have become cruel and vindictive leaders as any I ever seen, this is just the tip of the iceberge for their dicusting and evil plans and they will only get worse.
What ever happened to so called sane well educated people, where is the decency, the kindness. What is our higher education system producing? Do environmentalist and average nature loving people find this even remotely acceptable, are they going to allow this kind of crap?
First they came for camels, and I did nothing.
Then they came for cattle, and I did nothing.
Then they came for me.
We have average humans and our animal friends have become a pests and an inconvenience to be controlled or removed and sacrificed to the great mother Gaia and her faithful eco green fascist high priest thugs, who masquerading with flowery lies and deception dressed in fine suits, it’s history repeating itself every time these evil progressives gain power, wake up Australia It’s time to stop them!
The world has twice the biomass cattle as humans ( and 2 – 20 times the biomess of ants compared to cattle ). Perhaps the Labor government will extend its carbon tax to farmers for all the methane and CO2 their cattle puts out.
It starts with camels and in the end they will hunt down people for breathing CO2.
The culling should start with the Climate change Department, and the goons who proposed this to them. I have seen the results of a horse cull from helicopter, and the scene is just as bad as that witnessed in Indonesian abattoirs. This WA State conservative government have been proposing another cull of thousands of horses at Lake Gregory over the last few years, which we are trying to stop and manage properly.
http://pindanpost.com/2011/04/25/wild-kimberley-horses/
u can’t blame the camel-culling carbonistas for trying. taxpayers’ money in australia is being spent on CAGW as if there is no tomorrow…and the way things are going, there may not be one worth living…
11 June: Perth Now: AAP: Collie carbon capture’s $50m injection
The Collie South West Hub project aims to initially capture up to 2.4 mega tonnes of CO2 a year from surrounding industry including coal-fired power plants.
The government will spend $52 million on a viability study, promising an extra $333 million if successful.
The funding is part of the $1.68 billion Carbon Capture and Storage Flagships and Solar Flagships scheme, deferred earlier this year to help fund the summer natural disasters recovery…
http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/collie-carbon-captures-50m-injection/story-e6frg2r3-1226073462119
Wikipedia: Carbon capture and storage in Australia
No coal fired power station in Australia presently has CCS of CO2. CCS is not presently a viable technology for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions from coal fired power stations and is not expected, even by its proponents, to be commercially viable until at least 2020…
Australia has significant deposits of coal allowing economic benefits for years to come without significant environmental impacts…
Challenges
Cost of CCS will make coal fired electricity more expensive than wind power …
Existing power stations unlikely to be able to have carbon capture technology retrofitted …
CCS is forecast to require up to 30% more coal than conventional plants to cover the energy needs of CCS, and that extra coal must first be mined (which has environmental effects) and transported to the plant (which takes energy)…
Liability for leakage
A federal parliamentary committee has given the green light to burying carbon pollution under the ground – and suggested taxpayers pay any clean-up bills. If legislated this would be a huge taxpayer subsidy to polluters…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_capture_and_storage_in_Australia
Saving Australia’s horse culture, here as well. http://pindanpost.com/2011/06/02/saving-austral…-horse-culture/
Try pulling this one in a place like Mongolia.
Wipe out at least a third of the (herder) population.
But I guess that’s what they really want.
As it has been demonstrated that four camels produce the same amount of greenhouse gas as a Toyota Prius (it wasn’t stated how far the Prius had been driven so that remains an unknown quantity) then it is logical to conclude that it would be four times as effective to cull the Toyota Prius.
The USA has its own problem animal (wild horses) and the only thing certain is that lots of money will continue being spent but the problem will never be solved. The number of animals is not so large so if the Australians get started soon they can probably out-spend us on this issue.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2011/06/wild-horses-nevada-blm-native-species.html
These people are parodies of themselves. Has someone been slipping hallucinogens in their Foster’s?
“Surely it would be far easier to shoot tame cattle? There are big mobs near all of our northern ports, going nowhere.”
LOL, I think the people that own them might be a little annoyed.
This
is what
they really
want to do
to remaining mountains
to vainly display crosses
and monstrous sunset sunrise flickering shadow fields
of sacrificial doomsday religion,
access roads and
power lines
included.
Shooting camels, and what about the grains of explosives in every round that is fired?
Gunpowder for example produces gaseous products like: carbon dioxide, nitrogen, carbon monoxide, hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen, methane and water. I can’t imagine that modern cartridges are much better. Not mentioning of course the heavy metal in the form of lead being distributed amongst the camels and the surrounding landscape.
I did try posting this Bloomberg clip a couple of days ago – hope it works this time, otherwise here is the url.
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/70672944/
[snip . . no, no ,no . . kb] I hasten to add that I rafted the Franklin River in ’82 and took part in the dam protest and I call myself a conservationist but the “green” political movement is a liability to the human race.
A few years back they tried shooting Brumbys (wild horses) from the air here in New South Wales. That was an disaster in terms of animal cruelty and was stopped very quickly. Maybe the greens think this time they can do better by shooting the camels using bows and arrows from windmill powered helicopters? Our minority Socialist/Green national government is producing one hair brained scheme after another and you may be sure we haven’t seen the last of them, as we race headlong toward economic disaster.
A scheme made by the elites to fill the pockets of the elites – the only people who have time to hunt like this are rich people
One hump or two?
I’ll agree with Tom Harley. They’ve put the crosshairs on the wrong target.
You really have to love what is stated just below the WORD and PDF files of the 62-page proposal:
This proposed methodology is the subject of an application for patent that is pending approval (Australian Patent Application Number 2011200432; SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR OBTAINING CARBON OFFSET CREDIT OR EMISSIONS PERMIT BASED ON MANAGEMENT OF A FERAL HERBIVORE). Approval of a methodology is no authorisation whatsoever by the Commonwealth that a person may exploit or otherwise use any intellectual property necessary to use the methodology. If the patent is granted, project proponents using this methodology will need to ensure that they have adequate permission from the patent owner in order to carry out the project. The Australian Government cannot guarantee such access, and access may involve the payment of fees to the owner for access to the patented system.
Yes indeed, these mental pygmies have applied for a patent for the production of carbon offset credits via the extermination of camels.