The UN "disappears" 50 million climate refugees, then botches the disappearing attempt

Hoo boy, government bureaucratic idiocy at its finest. Not only is the original claim bogus, the attempts to disappear it are hilariously inept. Apparently, they’ve never heard of Google Cache at the UN. Rather than simply say “we were wrong”, they’ve now brought even more distrust onto the UN.

Back on April 11th, Gavin Atkins of Asian Correspondent asked this simple question:

What happened to the climate refugees?

It is a valid question, and he backs it up with census numbers. Here’s the first part of his story:

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In 2005, the United Nations Environment Programme predicted that climate change would create 50 million climate refugees by 2010. These people, it was said, would flee a range of disasters including sea level rise, increases in the numbers and severity of hurricanes, and disruption to food production.

The UNEP even provided a handy map. The map shows us the places most at risk including the very sensitive low lying islands of the Pacific and Caribbean.

It so happens that just a few of these islands and other places most at risk have since had censuses, so it should be possible for us now to get some idea of the devastating impact climate change is having on their populations. Let’s have a look at the evidence:

Bahamas:

Nassau, The Bahamas – The 2010 national statistics recorded that the population growth increased to 353,658 persons in The Bahamas.  The population change figure increased by 50,047 persons during the last 10 years.

St Lucia:

The island-nation of Saint Lucia recorded an overall household population increase of 5 percent from May 2001 to May 2010 based on estimates derived from a complete enumeration of the population of Saint Lucia during the conduct of the recently completed 2010 Population and Housing Census.

Seychelles:

Population 2002, 81755

Population 2010, 88311

Solomon Islands:

The latest Solomon Islands population has surpassed half a million – that’s according to the latest census results.

It’s been a decade since the last census report, and in that time the population has leaped 100,000.

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After Asian Correspondent posted the story on April 11th, it was picked up by news outlets around the world such as Investor NewsAmerican Spectator and was cited in the Australian newspaper. It was also a report on Fox News.

Since that story appeared, the “handy map” he cites in his original story, which has this URL:

http://maps.grida.no/go/graphic/fifty-million-climate-refugees-by-2010

…seems to be gone down the memory hole. This is what you get now, note my yellow highlight:

Only one small problem there UN people, a little annoyance called Google cache, which has that page archived here.

It pulls up this page that had been removed, with the 50 million refugees title, but the map is missing. Click to enlarge.

Fear not dear readers, because as astoundingly smart as those UN people think they are, they forgot one very important yet tiny detail. The map links to a hi-resolution version of the “climate refugee map” and if you delete the page above and the map it contains, you also have to delete the hi-res image it links to.

http://maps.grida.no/library/files/storage/11kap9climat.png

Ooops.

I’m always happy to help the UN in times of “need”, sooooo I’ve recovered it and saved it here on WUWT, because that image link is likely to go down the memory hole on Monday.

Here’s the map at web resolution as it would have appeared in the disappeared web page above.

UNEP map, Emmanuelle Bournay

And here it is in full sized hi-resolution glory, suitable for printing, slides, or coffee mugs…wherever it might be appropriate to show the folly of these boneheads. Click the link for the hi-res image:

11kap9climat.png 3012 x 1699 pixels PNG (577K)

And there you have it folks, another bogus climate claim rubbished by reality, followed by an inept cover up attempt.

Thanks to the reality of census numbers, followed by the UN’s handling of this, we can now safely say that the claim is “climate refugees” is total fantasy. Be sure to leave comments on any website that makes this claim, and link to this and the Asian Correspondent website.

Kudos to Gavin Atkins for asking this simple question after 6 years of this fantasy being used to push an agenda

UPDATE: A couple of commenters asked for the source of the predictions. Happy to oblige. This is what the UNEP web page originally said and the author cited:

Fifty million climate refugees by 2010. Today we find a world of asymmetric development, unsustainable natural resource use, and continued rural and urban poverty. There is general agreement about the current global environmental and development crisis. It is also known that the consequences of these global changes have the most devastating impacts on the poorest, who historically have had limited entitlements and opportunities for growth.
Sources Norman Myers, ‘Environmental refugees, An emergent security issue’, 13. Economic forum, Prague, OSCE, May 2005 ; Millennium Ecosystem Assessment, 2005 ; Liser, 2007.
Link to web-site http://www.agassessment.org/
Cartographer/

Designer

Emmanuelle Bournay
Appears in IAASTD – International assessment of agricultural science and technology for development
Published 2008

UPDATE2: The goal posts are already being moved, now it is 2020 instead of 2010, see below.

click image for original story

And here’s the source of this new goal post, an announcement at the AAAS meeting in February:

Which a compliant media has bloviated all over the net, as if this new bogosity is somehow better than the old one. The professor who made that new 10 years hence claim, UCLA’s Cristina Tirado, has a public web page at UCLA here.

I’ve sent her this message tonight:

Dear Professor Tirado,

It appears that the original claim made by the UN of 50 million climate refugees by 2010 has been proven totally false by a simple census count. UNEP has already removed the claim from their website. See this story: http://wp.me/p7y4l-9T0

At AAAS in Feburary, you made a nearly identical claim, but simply 10 years into the future. On what basis did you make this claim, and in light of the failed prediction and removal by UNEP of the old claim, are you prepared to retract the new 2020 refugee claim you made here: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jnW80NlFZ259UCgMAHSd3ekHutiQ?docId=CNG.aa651167cd0af745b3cb395cf1d402e3.c41

Millions of readers await your response at WUWT. Thank you for your consideration.

Anthony Watts

http://www.wattsupwiththat.com

UPDATE3: Reader Andrew30 provides the linkage of this farce to the main body of the UN, not just the UNEP as some have complained.

General Assembly, 8 July 2008

GA/10725

Sixty-second General Assembly

Informal Meeting on Climate Change and Most Vulnerable Countries (AM)

Statements

SRGJAN KERIM, President of the General Assembly, opened the discussion by saying that 11 of the last 12 years had ranked among the 12 warmest since the keeping of global temperature records had begun in 1850. Two points were significant: that climate change was inherently a sustainable-development challenge; and that more efforts than ever before must be exerted to enable poor countries to prepare for impacts because it had been estimated that there would be between 50 million and 200 million environmental migrants by 2010.

Panel Discussion

The Assembly then held a panel discussion moderated by author and journalist Eugene Linden. The panellists were Reid Basher, Senior Coordinator at the Secretariat of the International Strategy for Disaster Reduction; Ian Noble, Senior Climate Change Specialist at the World Bank; and Veerle Vandeweerd, Director of the Environment and Energy Group at the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).

Source: http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2008/ga10725.doc.htm

UPDATE4: In comments, there’s a suggestion that I’m laying claim to “first discovery”. I’m not, nor did I. This path of discovery that I learned today from various bits and pieces in email and posts is helpful.

Gavin Atkins was the first to call attention to the expired UN claim, he also highlighted the Google cache issue saying “However, if you are quick, you may yet be able to download a copy via google cache here.” …which I followed and was able to find and recover the high-res map myself and made my own screen caps. I found out Monday morning that Gatkins got the cache issue from Aaron Worthing here, who got it from his commenter “Carlos” – so it is Carlos who actually deserves credit for first noticing it (the 404 error).

Worthing was upset that I didn’t mention him but did mention Atkins. I’m writing this to correct that unintentional oversight.

I didn’t notice the small link on Atkins post to Worthing’s post (much further down than the Google cache link) because I was already on my way down the rabbit hole from the UNEP link Atkins provided high up in his post, paying attention to Atkins admonition: “However, if you are quick…” to follow the link. I know from experience that sometimes Google cache can last for days, sometimes minutes. When I followed it, the map was already gone as you can see in my own screencaps above.

Today I also found out that apparently I was getting Tweets from Atkins and Worthing last Fri/Sat that I should take notice of the issue…but those got left in the bit bucket because I never follow/read Tweets. I only use Twitter as an announcement service for WUWT. So if anyone expects to reach me via Twitter, please note that it is a lost cause.

I’m always happy to point out who gets credit when I know about it, and now that I know about it, here’s the credit chain: Gavin Atkins was the one to raise the issue, Aaron Worthing was the first to blog about the 404 error here, and his commenter “Carlos” was the first to notice the 404 error. I hope that clears up any misunderstandings.

The most important thing is that the UN issue is well known now and that many many people worked independently to make it happen. – Anthony

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Gnomish

Bravo!!

It's always Marcia, Marcia

I am sick of manmade global warming. It has always been about money. And some will sacrifice morals because of their love of money. Manmade global warming has made some people rich. No matter to them that people have starved to death in the process.
“For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.”

JC

Another subtle admission that this is not science. In science it’s OK to be wrong. There’s no need to sweep your mistakes under the rug.

Gerald Machnee

Did you say 50,000,000 people or 50,000,000 hits?
/sarc

John F. Hultquist

I still think the “50 million climate refugees by 2010” author, editor, or authority responsible should be identified. Maybe he/she/they really meant 5,000 by 2100 or some such set of numbers. As written, it was and is just silly. Typical for the UN, though. The USA’s contribution to the UN helps fund this nonsense.

H.R.

Dang! I was going to open a lemonade stand in my backyard to serve the miles-long string of climate refugees that were going to be trudging by. I mean, what could go wrong with a business plan like that?
The I pee, si! si! said it would happen last year and I haven’t sold the first glass of lemonade. I want my money back. After all, for the amount of money that’s been paid in I should at least get some accurate information to act on, right?
(hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Dream on, H.R.)

S. Geiger

can someone please post the original source of the UN prediction? Something that unquestionably links the prediction to the UN.
thx

The ‘Way Back Machine’ is also a good way of keeping track of those with a propensity for Orwellian cover up:
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090217054716/http://maps.grida.no/go/graphic/fifty-million-climate-refugees-by-2010
Ok – this is off topic – but I’ll include the link anyway…for some Friday giggles:
http://youtu.be/wyrFWbGiGOc

Willis Eschenbach

Too good …
w.

Bluecollardummy

I wonder how many of those small islands have “disappeared completely”.

Ron Nichol

Thank you so much. After climategate and countless other U.N. debunkings such as this one, I can’t believe the alarmists are still so influential.
Has anyone else noticed that Zimbabwe signed onto Kyoto in 2009. Seeing as how Mugabe has destroyed that economy (thereby reducing CO2 production) he now stands to gain millions via Kyoto.

Wondering Aloud

There really are millions of climate refugees you know. Thet have fled the Midwest and Northeast and now live in places like Florida and Arizona.

Baa Humbug

Does it include the numbers of people, mainly retired oldies, who move to Florida, Queensland and various Mediterranean warm spots? there’s got to be quite a few tens of millions of Climate refugees right there.

Mike Bromley

I have also saved a copy…knowing how Google has been notorious for holding real science in contempt…and wishing ill on skeptics. Make it go viral!

Al Gored

“In 2005, the United Nations Environment Programme predicted that climate change would create 50 million climate refugees by 2010.”
Oh. I see the problem. Just some bad editing. Probably some intern did it. Should read:
In 2005, the United Nations predicted that it will create 50 million refugees by 2010.
So they did get the date wrong but they are still trying… so please, cut them some slack. They are not that organized and those lose stuff and if you stress them out they could have a nervous breakdown or suffer from reduced self esteem.

Mike

Check the map. It says we will be subjected to more Hurrricanes which I think are a level more deadly than normal hurricanes.
Also can they tell us which small islands have disappeared completely?
Thank Gavin Atkins

I guess Paul Ehrlich and John Holdren must have been consulted by Achim Steiner from UNEP in order to concoct this amazing prediction.
The incredible thing is how these people from UNEP are able to contribute every extreme weather event to “climate change”, meaning human caused global warming and no journalists ever seam to ask any basic questions about this supposed relationship.
And they are our unelected representatives or “expert” via the UN system!

Al Gored

Just noticed something about that map… the alleged area that will be exposed to desertification and drought in North America has an absolutely impossible ‘prediction’ showing a strip of that crossing the Rockies and apparently following the Columbia River, more or less.
Seriously, that must simply be made up… These kids need new coloring books, or better coloring lessons.
Anyhow, thanks for saving this Anthony. You do care about the children!

Greg, Spokane WA

ZT says:
April 15, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Ok – this is off topic – but I’ll include the link anyway…for some Friday giggles
==========
THAT was funny. Thanks.

Gerald Machneem

RE:
ZT says:
April 15, 2011 at 6:22 pm
The ‘Way Back Machine’ is also a good way of keeping track of those with a propensity for Orwellian cover up:
I was there. Could not get it.

Gary Pearse

Marcia
“It’s all about the money…” A good title for a climate book.

Mike Bromley

I just noticed that the Queen Charlotte Islands are located in “Arctic areas vulnerable to ice and permafrost melting”…not only is the map and its doomy prediction wrong, the last time I heard about the QCI they were a lush temperate rain forest…so, apparently, global cooling must have been expected by 2010. Whoopsy-daisy!

Curiousgeorge

I read Gavins blog and one of the replies is from Nick Nuttall who denies the UN ever said any such thing. Who ya’ gonna believe, Nickie or your lying eyes?

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…] happened to the climate refugees? What happened to the climate refugees? […]
#
Nick Nuttall
Dear Gavin, I read with interest your bog not least as Spokesperson for the UN Environment Programme (UNEP).
I have trawled through our records and cannot spot UNEP havng made such a statement about numbers of climate refugees by 2010.
I suspect that there is a measure of misunderstanding here linked to that ‘handy map’ to which you refer.
UNEP has a centre in Arendal, Norway called Grid Arendal tht produces graphics and maps for publications. Some of the graphic artists have a long standing relationship with Le Monde Diplomatique, a French publication, and were asked to produce a graphic basedon various scientific papers (sourced on that ‘handy map’).
GRID Arendal archive/have a library of graphics and the one you refer to is archived there.
So the top and bottom is that the figure of 50 million refugees is actually not ours.
That does not mean there are not environmental refugees including climate ones. But we do not have any projections ourselves.
There are however quite a lot of universities/research centres around the world trying to unravel his complex issue.
Given your interest in the subject you might like to go to for example to the Refugee Studies Centre at the University of Oxford or the site of the International Displacement Monitoring Centre.
Regards, Nick Nuttall, UNEP Spokesperson, Nairobi, Kenya

~FR

The map legend says that some small islands ‘will disappear completely.’ So, how many islands have we lost?
The map also says that ‘the effect of climate changes [in producing refugees] comes on top of poverty and war.’ Isn’t this a sort of nonsense statement? Does the movement of refugees from a war/genocide zone change measurably because of a (debatable) 1 degree difference in air temperature?

Another Qlder

Are we really surprised? I made a pdf-print of the UN website early April and also downloaded the full map! This is just too ironic to be true – or maybe just sad. Great stuff though Anthony to pick this up!

Richard

Anthony, thank you for helping out the UN with this, I’m sure they appreciate the fact that you have reminded lots of people how much of a scam the AGW is. Keep up the good work.

usurbrain

FR Said “The map also says that ‘the effect of climate changes [in producing refugees] comes on top of poverty and war.’ Isn’t this a sort of nonsense statement? Does the movement of refugees from a war/genocide zone change measurably because of a (debatable) 1 degree difference in air temperature?”
The UN is working on this in the MidEast right now! Lybia, Egypt, etc.

John Garrett

St. Lucia? Low-lying? Whaaaaaaaa?
I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that somebody’s never laid eyes on St. Lucia. If that’s their idea of a low-lying island, they probably think the Himalayas are a set of modest hills.

JDN

@It’s always Marcia, Marcia says:
April 15, 2011 at 6:11 pm
“And so, at first, greed for money grew, then greed for power. These things were the root, so to speak, of all evil”
-Sallust (86-35 BC), “Cataline’s Conspiracy”

The UN has already blamed the MidEast unrest on climate change:
http://unfccc.int/files/press/statements/application/pdf/speech_seguridad_20110215.pdf
The Way Back Machine (tm!) will work for this UN page – you may need to feed the URL into the search box on their site – for me the link given produces a pause but then goes to the stored page.

Tom in Texas

Wondering Aloud says:
April 15, 2011 at 6:51 pm
“There really are millions of climate refugees you know.”

Probably due to Calif. climate regulations.

JDN

What the heck, it’s Friday; here’s the whole quote. See if it reminds you of anything:
“Fortune began to grow cruel and confuse everything. Men who had easily endured hard work, dangers, uncerainty and adversity found that leisure and wealth, things desirable at other times, were a burden and the cause of misery. And so, at first, greed for money grew, then greed for power. These things were the root, so to speak of all evils. For avarice undermined trust, goodness, and other noble qualities, and in their place taught pride and cruelty, taught men to neglect the gods and to put a price on everything. Ambition forced many men to become liars, to hide one thing in their heart and have something else ready on their tongue, to value friendship and enmity according to convenience, not substance, and to put up a good face rather than have a good heart. At first, these things grew gradually, they were punished occasionally; afterwards, when this contagion invaded like a plague, the state changed, and political power which had been most just and best became cruel and intolerable.”
-Sallust (86-35BC) describing the decline of the Roman Empire in “Cataline’s Conspiracy”. The joke is that Sallust should know these things; he was one of the worst of them for a while.

Eve

Got two more climate refugee’s here. My husband and I are moving from scorching Canada to cooler Nassau, Bahamas. A friend of mine also just moved from overheated Toronto to Mexico. Other friends of mine just moved from the really hot Barrie, On to Texas. We are working on that 50 Million.

Theo Goodwin

What is the island nation that pulled the stunt of having a cabinet meeting underwater? Participants wore scuba gear. It happened a year ago or so. Some reporter had the good sense to ask the president how much house prices had fallen on his island because of the imminent flooding. Being a politician, he was trapped. He said they had not fallen.
I think that whenever the UN or some such agency predicts a local catastrophe, they should be required to do an annual survey of house prices. But that is just too much reality for Warmista.
REPLY: Got it right here http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/18/maldivians-pull-underwater-publicity-stunt/
Anthony

noel

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What I would love to find is David Suzuki’s prediction in 1987/88 or so, that the sea-level would rise 1 metre by the year 2000. Such nonsense got me doing my own check, just to make sure. I was about to buy some land, and the road to it was nearly at the high-tide mark.
Funny thing, during the last many years, all the surrounding land must have had a land-level rise of about the same amount. The road has not yet been breached.
The first person who can point me to the authentic prediction wins a bottle of a good single-malt whiskey, say, “Glen Breton”, “Turtle Island’s” only single-malt. [If you don’t know where “Turtle Island” is, you may be standing on it. 🙂 I’ve got “notify me of follow-up comments via email” checked, so I shouldn’t miss the winner.]
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Layne Blanchard

“……when people are not living in sustainable conditions, they migrate….”
If I don’t believe in “sustainability” does that count? My whole life is unsustainable.
In fact, I’m quite certain it will end badly.
But, seriously, I’ve moved at least 50 times in my life. It’s not fun, but it isn’t a big deal.

Ed Dahlgren

From that archived page

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5OWrvQs5P5YJ:maps.grida.no/go/graphic/fifty-million-climate-refugees-by-2010

you can also get the map in pdf

http://maps.grida.no/library/files/storage/11kap9climat.pdf

and you can also post the whole page – with map – to a social/sharing website. Tested, works with Facebook.

Rick K

Great stuff, Anthony!

Marian

What’s sooo annoying about all these failed AGW/CC predictions is this UN propaganda is taught in schools. Never get retractions though when it’s proven to be wrong. It still goes on being taught as it happened or will still happen!
Anyone who has an ounce of commonsense and being rational and objective knows what a load of toss those claims are. Same as the claims in Al Gore’s Sci-Fi fantasy an Inconvenient Truth claiming New Zealand has climate change refugees!

Steve Oregon

I’m reading the first part of this and thinking of posting a spoof about them extending the 2010 by 5 or 10 years and clinging to the same tale.
Then I came across this.
“UPDATE2: The goal posts are already being moved, now it is 2020 instead of 2010, see below.”
Ya just can’t lampoon these people because they end up being the lampoon.
Then there’s this.
“Which a compliant media has bloviated all over the net, as if this new bogosity is somehow better than the old one.”
Of course they do. They are part of the lampoonium predictium.
I’ve been disgusted with that distribution of idiocy by the media and blogs ever since I watched the distribution of Jane Lubchenco’s entirely fabricated AGW link to ocean dead zones. That got her appointed to head NOAA.

Tilo Reber

Well, in the 5 years between 2005 and 2010 the sea level rose about 0.58 inches; which is slightly less that the rising rate of 2005 would have predicted. Now why didn’t a half inch of sea level rise cause 50 million refugees? The 1.16 inches that we will get by 2020 will be sure to do the job. It seems to me that someone with a good lawyer should be able to make the case that they were unduly pannicked into costly actions by the UN predictions of 2005. And they should be able to get some money from the UN for it.

LeeHarvey

Oh where to begin…
They seriously spelled it ‘Caribbian’?
The plotted Shishmaref, AK on the map? As of the 2000 Census, the population of Shishmaref was 562. Anchorage is also in the ‘permafrost is melting, clathrates are breaking down, we all gon’ die!’ zone (not to mention being on the water) and they choose to highlight a village of 562 people?…
Southern Louisiana isn’t a major delta? They chose to highlight New Orleans, yet they don’t bother to realize that the Mississippi is one of the larger (and hydrologically older) rivers in the world?
The ‘Central Asia’ tag is almost on the extreme western periphery of the Asian continent?
Yes, this map was clearly produced by the finest cartographers at work in the world today…

crosspatch

Hoo boy, government idiocy at its finest.

Please. Bureaucratic idiocy, yes. But let’s not promote the UN to the status of “government”. Nobody elected those people to govern anyone or anything. I know the UN fancies itself has having the authority of a “government” as do many individuals, but let’s not go buying into that, please.
The UN has as much authority as the Odd Fellows Ladies Auxiliary of Poughkeepsie.
REPLY: I dunno, have you seen the handbags those old gals wield? Point taken though. – Anthony

Douglas

I notice that the map includes Stewart Island in New Zealand. Needs a sea level rise of around 1000 metres to ‘sink’ it.
Here is a geographical description of Stewart Island. This hilly island with a wet climate has an area of 1 746 km². The highest peak is Mount Anglem (979 metres (3,212 ft)), close to the northern coast it is one of a rim of ridges that surround Freshwater Valley. The southern half is more uniformly undulating, rising to a ridge that runs south from the valley of the Rakeahua River, which also flows into Paterson Inlet. The southernmost point in this ridge is Mount Allen, at 750 metres (2,460 ft). In the southeast the land is somewhat lower, and is drained by the valleys of the Toitoi River, Lords River, and Heron River. South West Cape on this island is the southernmost point of the main islands of New Zealand.
Also the Chatham Islands east of Christchurch NZ These could be dealt with by a mere 300metres.
The islands are generally hilly with the coasts a varied mixture including cliffs and sand dunes, beaches and lagoons. Pitt is more rugged than Chatham (Rekohu), although the highest point (299 metres / 981 feet) is on a plateau near the southernmost point of the main island.
So much for the accuracy of their data.
Douglas

Ed Dahlgren

Curiousgeorge says:
April 15, 2011 at 7:37 pm
I read Gavins blog and one of the replies is from Nick Nuttall who denies the UN ever said any such thing.
=//=//=//=//=
It looks to me like Nick Nuttall’s denial is fairly true. The data came from a paper from a (on the face of it) non-UN conference and was published by a non-UN organization.

GRID-Arendal is a collaborating centre of the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). Established in 1989 by the Government of Norway as a Norwegian Foundation, our mission is to communicate environmental information to policy-makers and facilitate environmental decision-making for change.
http://www.grida.no/

GRID-Arendal is an official United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) collaborating centre, supporting informed decision making and awareness-raising through:

* Environmental information management and assessment
* Capacity building services
* Outreach and communication tools, methodologies and products

As UNEP’s Key Polar Centre, we are involved with initiatives in the Polar Regions, and increasingly, we are broadening our focus on sustainable development of the oceans and coasts elsewhere in the world.
Our staff consists of a diverse team of international professionals. Through a dynamic portfolio of projects, we partner with various organizations to facilitate free access to and exchange of information in support of decision making and to promote a sustainable future.
http://www.grida.no/about/

followed by their “mission,” their “vision,” and their “values.” (Sorry, but that stupid organizational template really annoys me.)
On the other hand, the group certainly displays the UNEP logo. If the UN doesn’t like the connection, they know what to do about that.

Rattus Norvegicus

I sent her a message which said that answering you was a losing game. I hope that she take my advice, you twist words.

REPLY:
Well John, I’d have printed her response in full, like the response I print from Dr. Walt Meier and other scientists I contact. But you’ve already prejudged and made sure to ruin any chance of response. Of course, that’s what I get for being open. If I hadn’t published the email I sent, people like yourself would claim I sent a “misleading email”.
No problem though, I have a friend (former coworker) at a Los Angeles TV station, so I’ll get him on the trail and maybe we can get a response on camera…that way I can’t possibly twist words as you claim. I’m sure the good professor will enjoy the attention.
I’ll be sure to contact you personally in 2020 to ask for an apology, which I’ll print in full when you make it. In the meantime enjoy your life as a Rattus Norvegicus.
Anthony

David Falkner

But there is no international conspiracy! Bahaha! I wouldn’t say conspiracy, more like groupthink, but still. In the words of my daughter:
EPIC FAIL!

David Falkner

Ohforchrissakes people. ‘Plausible denial’. Haven’t you ever heard of it? I don’t accept only things that are proven. Only a fool could. The original link, like it or not, comes from the UN. If they didn’t vet the source properly, shame on them. I sorely wish that people would hold public officials and their agencies to the same standards, at least, that private companies must report data under. That may be a start to fixing this whole mess.

juanslayton

Ed Dahlgren,
Would it be fair to say that the UN didn’t write it, they only published it?

Andrew30

General Assembly, 8 July 2008
GA/10725
Sixty-second General Assembly
Informal Meeting on Climate Change and Most Vulnerable Countries (AM)
Statements
SRGJAN KERIM, President of the General Assembly, opened the discussion by saying that 11 of the last 12 years had ranked among the 12 warmest since the keeping of global temperature records had begun in 1850. Two points were significant: that climate change was inherently a sustainable-development challenge; and that more efforts than ever before must be exerted to enable poor countries to prepare for impacts because it had been estimated that there would be between 50 million and 200 million environmental migrants by 2010.
Panel Discussion
The Assembly then held a panel discussion moderated by author and journalist Eugene Linden. The panellists were Reid Basher, Senior Coordinator at the Secretariat of the International Strategy for Disaster Reduction; Ian Noble, Senior Climate Change Specialist at the World Bank; and Veerle Vandeweerd, Director of the Environment and Energy Group at the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).
Source: http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2008/ga10725.doc.htm