Now that California’s Prop 23 to suspend the AB32 global warming law has failed, you get some real clarity from the players. If you ever doubted that our current crop of “save the planet” bureaucrats think they are above answering to the very citizens that pay their salary, this quote should put any doubt you may have had to rest.
From public TV station KQED’s “climate watch” blog:
“They didn’t know who they were messing with,” said Mary Nichols, when the first numbers came in from the polls.
Wow. Just wow. Hubris maximus. Lady, you need a reality check.
Read the holier than thou hubris yourself here. Read here why Prop 23 was felled by feelings, and not by facts.
Here’s the effervescent Mary Nichols dealing with CARB’s DiplomaGate:
The Orange County Register reported:
Cover-up taints costly diesel policy
A year ago, high officials of the California Air Resources Board learned that the author of a statistical study on diesel soot effects had falsified his academic credentials.
The researcher, Hien Tran, acknowledged the deception and agreed to be demoted, but after his data were given another peer review, they remained the basis of highly controversial regulations that will cost owners of trucks, buses and other diesel-powered machinery millions of dollars to upgrade their engines. The Tran study concluded that diesel “particulate matter” was responsible for about 1,000 additional deaths each year.
Now more fallout from that “landmark diesel law” comes last month:
BREAKING: SFO Chronicle says “Faulty science behind state’s landmark diesel law” – an error of 340%
I have to ask: Ms. Nichols, do you have any idea of what you or your agency is doing? Because I gotta tell you, CARB looks wholly incompetent from this vantage point.
h/t to Russ Steele at NC Media Watch
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Why am I not surprised? These are the same folks that brought the golden state MTBE in the 80s and 90s, that fuel additive that was supposed to increase gasoline milage and save the environment too–and did absolutely nothing. Oh, it did pollute the Tahoe Basin with a new chemical that proved to be even more of a cancer causing substance than second hand smoke—the horror. Leave the state, I did, it’s your fault if you stay for a second round of Gov. Moonbeam.
REPLY: I’m seriously considering the options right now. I’m pretty well fed up here. The last straw was the 40cents/kwh this summer. Now with Moonbeam, it can only get worse. -Anthony
“surrounding” also in last sentence (correction)
The proposed rules to implement AB 32 give away 97-98% of the permits in the first year, no effect at all on transportation fuels until at least 2015. They continue to kick the can down the road. Prop 23 failing or passing was mostly irrelevant. I actually wish they would implement on the Sierra Club’s desired time line and show the rest of the country what will happen. I am sick and tired of the economic illiteracy around this issue.
both warming and CO2 mean more life. …….. to fight it is murder of the poor by starvation to death (one of the cruelest deaths there is).
The reality is that CO2 is used at 100 times atmosphere to help preemie babies’ lungs mature. I know of no research on CO2 concentrations and asthmatics. I can only suspect that actual research would find elevated CO2 levels would help them.
Any takers???
DCC says:
November 3, 2010 at 3:52 pm
In the People’s Republic just south of New Hampshire comes this news (in part):
http://www.masshightech.com/stories/2010/11/01/daily14-Evergreen-Solar-China-manufacturing-transition-coming-mid-2011.html
Evergreen Solar: China manufacturing transition coming mid-2011
Evergreen Solar Inc. expects the transition of its solar panel assembly operation from Devens to China to be complete by mid- to late-2011, company officials said during a third-quarter conference call Tuesday.
The Marlborough-based company officially opened its new facility in Wuhan, China, in September, and has been moving the Devens panel assembly operation to the new facility as a way to cut costs.
It’s expected that the move to China could lead to the elimination of jobs in Massachusetts. Evergreen employed 925 in the state as of June, according to the Massachusetts Executive Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs, which has been involved with the company since it received more than $40 million in state financing in 2007.
The financing deal requires that Evergreen maintain 660 jobs in Massachusetts, according to the state office.
To all old school Californians with business savvy. Come to Northeast Oregon. If you can stand the winter weather, we have plenty of people willing to work for you. And Interstate 84 is a good road with good access to other states, let alone a fairly straight shot to I5 (which you should avoid like the plague when relocating a business). What’s not to like about NE Oregon? The Sun shines quite a bit, AND we have lots of water. The only drawback is our election results. We still apparently have our idiot Governor who appears to have been re-elected by a dog’s hair width between him and Dudley. By folks along the I5 corridor you want to avoid anyway. Idaho would be good too.
Maybe the only way California is going to come to its senses is when it hits rock bottom from all its bad decisions.
Robb876 says:
November 3, 2010 at 5:36 pm
both warming and CO2 mean more life. …….. to fight it is murder of the poor by starvation to death (one of the cruelest deaths there is).
The reality is that CO2 is used at 100 times atmosphere to help preemie babies’ lungs mature. I know of no research on CO2 concentrations and asthmatics. I can only suspect that actual research would find elevated CO2 levels would help them.
Any takers???
Too much oxygen can cause blindness in premies – so it’s not so much that CO2 is good as too much O2 is bad. Many individuals suffering from congestive heart failure have ‘burned out’ or damaged their oxygen sensors in the aorta. These individuals depend to one degree or another on their CO2 receptors to initiate breathing. Back when I was an EMT we had to worry about supplying oxygen to CHF patients because it would depress respiration. ‘Pink and dead’ was the result to avoid.
Yes Amino, that’s usually what drug addicts and alcoholics must experience before recovery is an option, assuming of course they acknowledge they have a problem.
California appears to be in the last stages of a democracy, that being when the People discover they can get goodies from the public treasury by voting. The only question will be when (not if) Obamanonicscare comes to the rescue to bail out the bankrupt state.
The interesting and appalling thing about the successful campaign to defeat Prop 23 was that it did not mention climate change at all. All of the ads implied that the isssue was standard pollution. They showed kids with inhalers, saying that the proposition would increase asthma problems, etc.
If they felt they couldn’t sell it on the basis of preventing climate change, maybe there is hope!
Doug Bagdero:
“I am sick and tired of the economic illiteracy around this issue.”
Exactly. I work in broadcasting in Michigan. Everytime we have a story about “green” energy, we (my station) always broadcasts the environmentalist’s position: “you will save money by using these light bulbs and energy-saving devices” (Of course, consumers funded it through a surcharge on their electric bill). Today, after the Republican route, a university professor talked about boosting Michigan’s economy with “green” energy. This prof, of course doesn’t talk about the huge subsidies that will be involved that we’ll ultimately pay for or the hike in our utility bills if his plan goes through. I can’t get anyone to talk about the economics of “green energy” on TV. Even the people who work for utilities who know how economically ruinous these policies will be don’t speak out against them–it’s politically incorrect.
I say let California fry. Let’s watch with focus and document California burn.
It will be painful, but the citizens of CA voted for it.
I moved from there years ago. Please don’t ask me to send money to pay for your labor, solar and wind boondoggles.
EJ
Many individuals suffering from congestive heart failure have ‘burned out’ or damaged their oxygen sensors in the aorta. These individuals depend to one degree or another on their CO2 receptors to initiate breathing.
Actually, You’re Hypercarbic drive is your primary respiratory drive. The Hypoxic drive comes in an inefficient second.
California voters are that in tune with common sense? Why was that other controversial proposition (8) overturned then? I wonder how this fine woman thought of California voters on that day? I agree, though, between the courts, the interest groups, the politicians, the lobbyists, ad nauseum, it is hard to know who you are messing with in politics. Just remember folks, you pay for what you get, whether you want it or not.
REPLY: I’m seriously considering the options right now. I’m pretty well fed up here. The last straw was the 40cents/kwh this summer. Now with Moonbeam, it can only get worse. -Anthony
You’d be right at home in Ohio. Cleveland and Cincinnati even have beaches. Plenty of great hospitals, sorry you still need them for sure, but they are here. And we could use voters that agree on keeping out the rabble. Just don’t forget your snowshoes and your coat. Especially if you go to Cleveland. 🙂
Good for Mary Nichols! Prop 23 was nothing but an attempt by big business (big oil) to have their way with California. Although, I think global warming is a is a pseudoscientific myth, I know that air pollution impacts our quality of life. I live down wind from the port of Oakland, I know how nasty diesel soot is as a pollutant. F**k global warming. But air pollution is a different story…
There are a ton of good states out there.. Midwest (which I would inlcude Ohio as stated above) is a pretty good area depending where you go. Missouri is nice simply because we have so many interstates and other transportation hubs so to speak.
St Louis – you can live in Missouri or Illinois and pick and choose where you want to pay taxes for home and office.
KC – Kansas or Missouri and same with the choices.
Only bad thing about midwest is that our weather will never be as nice as California in general.
I will say this however, the midwest states tend to know how to keep businesses around as a general rule.
Her statement reminds me of the freshly outed Speaker of the House when talking about the Healthcare Bill.
“Let’s pass it and find out what’s in it.”
Most voters here don’t read too much of the Initiatives, so the crafty (and rather misleading) wording tricked many into a “No” vote.
Sad about California.
I had a business there but moved out in 2005 to the lovely desert southwest and certainly do not regret the move and we are doing just fine in what some of my colleagues from California refer to as “the desert wasteland”.
I love doing business with California companies because there are just so many wonderful, smart people there (we do high-tech mfg…) but IMHO it is a very difficult state to do business in due to transportation problems, crime and general lack of ethics, and tax structure. I am interested to see how their anti-CO2 regulations actually pan out. Should be interesting.
Beowulf888….
Pollution has nothing to do with ab32, it’s regulation on co2 pure and simple and the democrats fantasy of clean energy and green jobs. This state is bleeding, people around en masse are losing their homes and jobs, businesses are failing all the while CARB grows in numbers, power and pensions on the backs of people who scrap out a living week by week. We’re losing our liberty to people like Mary Nichols. I wonder if she thinks about the tens of thousands of jobs lost, lives ruined by diesel regulations. I don’t think so, just a 1000 lawyers justifying their existence and damn the rest.
beowulf888 says:
November 3, 2010 at 9:44 pm
What does Prop 23 have to do with pollution. Have you read AB32? I’m astounded at what you just posted? And on a science blog. Jeez, I need to pack up and move to Nevada with my business.
Don’t worry about the extinction of jobs, California. James Cameron will be along shortly, paint you all blue and let you be extras in his next warmist fantasy movie. He might even let you sniff the gas fumes from his stable of expensive vehicles just to remind you how fortunate you are to live in a Marxist, low carbon utopia.
Correctamundo. And to top it off, Cameron would make the movie in Mexico or Canada.
So not only is James Cameron a climate debate coward, and a climate hypocrite (BTW see Lubos thread with the YouTube link), but he is also making an artform out of exporting jobs overseas.
Robb876 says:
If you peg CO2 in normal air at 400ppm (a bit on the high side but it’s a nice, round figure), then “100 times atmosphere” would be 40,000ppm or 4% (4 parts per hundred) … right?
In the study, Hyperoxic Brain Effects Are Normalized by Addition of CO2, fMRIs “were collected during each of three conditions: baseline (no gas administered), hyperoxia (100% O2), and hypercapnic hyperoxia (5% CO2, balance O2)…. Hyperoxia elicited a sequence of fMRI responses in the posterior hypothalamus, insula, hippocampus, cerebellum, caudate, and thalamic regions…. The addition of 5% CO2 to the hyperoxic mixture greatly reduced or eliminated responses in most structures.”
The study also noted:
“Supplementation of hyperoxia with CO2 does reduce induction of hypocapnia and consequent reductions in CBF, and alleviates damage due to oxygen stress. The biochemical processes associated with tissue injury in oxygen stress have been well-outlined [50,51], as have interventions to prevent such injury [52]. CO2 supplementation for neonatal resuscitation is indicated by suggestions that room air may be at least as effective as 100% O2 in infants subjected to asphyxia [53,54] and that biochemical correlates of oxygen stress are diminished [55]. Room air resuscitation results in less injury to the heart and kidney [56]; injury to the heart is especially apparent after hyperoxic exposure [57]. Similarly, hyperbaric O2 fared no better than pressurized air for improvement in gross motor function when administered to patients with cerebral palsy [58], and hyperoxia and hypocapnia add to the risk of brain injury after intrapartum asphyxia [59]. Hyperoxic ventilation is often administered for treatment of stroke; however, the accompanying hypocapnia and resultant CBF reductions and diminished O2 delivery may be contraindicated, as for resuscitation. The perinatal ischemic rodent brain is better protected with addition of mild hypercapnia to the ventilatory supplement mix [60].
“It should be noted that patients requiring resuscitation often show initially high CO2 levels following respiratory failure, and an argument could be made that under such circumstances the addition of CO2 to hyperoxic delivery is unnecessary. However, CO2 levels rapidly dissipate with forced ventilation, and hypocapnia would ensue after a short period, leading to the sequence of constricted vasculature described earlier.”
That study had CO2 levels at 5%, not just 4%. However, the study participants were children, not infants.
The abstract of another study, Effects of CO2 rebreathing on pulmonary mechanics in premature infants, says “The decrease in resistance that occurs within the airway in response to inhaled CO2 may permit greater airflow at any level of respiratory drive, thereby improving the infant’s response to CO2.” Apparently, total pulmonary, supraglottic, and lower airway (larynx and lungs) resistance decreased progressively as end-tidal PCO2 (PETCO2) increased from 63 +/- 23 to 23 +/- 15 cmH2O.l-1.s in inspiration. However, details are behind a pay wall.
Remember that comercial “Come to California?”
Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md69zCJKD1c
People think that living in California is one big vacation?
We have board meetings. Lot’s of board meetings!
We always work weekends.
We burn the midnight oil. etc…
I always used to wonder why and how they had it so good. Now I know. They were living on credit. Good luck with that.