We’ve seen Marc Morano from time to time on network news programs. Usually he’s being heckled by somebody brought on for “balance” like Joe Romm or some clueless professor named Watson from East Anglia. This time, nobody wanted to come on, and it wasn’t because of fear of debating Marc. “no pressure”
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charles nelson says:
October 4, 2010 at 9:01 pm
I’m just waiting for the parodies to appear, you know where the ‘exploded’ declare themselves: gay, christian, muslim, jewish etc.
Massive own goal…at a critical moment of the game…excellent!
The parodies have already started. JoAnne Nova has a topic at http://joannenova.com.au/2010/10/the-parodies-of-the-1010-eco-attack-dogs-begin/#more-10700
Donna Laframboise says:
October 4, 2010 at 8:04 pm
“A searing review of the “The Age of Stupid” film appears here
“…sitting in a shed, Lynas takes out a piece of paper and draws a graph on it with a pencil. It has an x axis and a y axis, and a curved line in the middle with the year 2015 written on it. This, he explains, shows that we have only another six years to save the world. This is the only ‘proper science’ in the whole film. Seriously. It makes those L’Oreal adverts – ‘here comes the science!’ – look like summaries of the quantum-physics debate between Einstein and Bohr.””
Hmm, maybe this is where Franny got her ‘four years to save the world’ idea from. Her own film!
Just received this from O2:
Dear Mr Wood
Thank you for your email to the O2 press office.
Along with 100,000 members of the public, leading businesses, schools and universities, local authorities and NHS Trusts, O2 supports the aims of the 10:10 campaign. We acknowledge our responsibility to the environment and are committed to reducing our carbon emissions both as an organisation and in society as a whole. 10:10 is an independent organisation and we don’t ask for editorial control over the content of its campaigns.
Kind regards
Sarah
pressoffice@o2.com
I noticed my comment got the childish clip as it didn’t conform to your one sided blog. The hypocrisy is huge when Fox is outraged by this fictional video but not outraged when it helped the US government by selling the Fearful WMD’s into Iraq War. And if a video of Real Iraqi children being blown up by “Shock and Awe” or the ones deformed by DUI’s doesn’t shock them. Maybe Fox could apologise for lying to the public. One video is a Fiction, the Iraq lies to War are real. Is that on topic enough for you.[not really and if you think this blog is one sided you have a strange definition of that indeed]
Benjamin P. says:
October 4, 2010 at 10:10 pm
‘Painting with a broad brush is fun.’
Of course it is – that way you never have to provide adequate scientific evidence or (dare I say it) data that shows how you’ve manipulated the real observations. And this broad brush, can we remind you, is covered in blood, brains and intestines.
Volt Aire: Some parents deny public school from kids from religious / other grounds and the kids will end up discounnected from the society, with very poor skills. This is mostly aproblem with families with different cultural backgrounds – I have personal and professional experience of this issue.
The Children Schools and Families Bill reverses the fundamental principle in English law that parents are responsible for the education of their children. It would set up databases on English families, open homes to inspection, force burdensome filing and state reviews of curricula, and bring criminal penalties to those deemed to be inadequately educating their children. The so-called “right” to an education then becomes a coercive mandate to receive only a public education, from a system which is plainly breaking down before your eyes, as radical environmentalists are allowed access to the classroom and portray violence for their cause. Placing such blind trust in the state to determine what a proper education is, stigmatizing parents who do not choose public schools, and instituting new and sweeping legal threats for parents who want the best for their children is not the answer to a vague sense that some children may be “out of touch with society.”
The British should be thinking long and hard about intruding on and violating this most intrinsic of relationships, that of the parent and child. Consider carefully what is set before you, especially in light of this recent educational video.
I only wish other media were paying attention. While I do watch and surf Fox, I also do the same for CNN, MSNBC (probably their only viewer), ABC, CBS and BBC.
No a word from any others – maybe it’s good, in that 10-10 won’t get as much publicity.
I’m not an ecologist, but I gather it is a consequence of the very narrow perspective that ecology assumes; people are just one species amongst many, and consequently we’ve no more right to be here than bacteria or lizards.
Their view is that the biggest thing on the planet is the Ecosystem. Humans are just one part of the Ecosystem (Gaia), so the Ecosystem is more important than humans. If the Ecosystem could have more diversity and health without us, that that is morally better, they believe. Gaia is the “One Thing” the one God, the one united living system. Humans are just a part of it. Hence the analogy with cancer; we consume too much of “the whole” and are therefore a “cancer”.
The colossal error they make in their analysis is that they ignore the complexity and development of the human mind and heart. People are actually more intelligent than cats and dogs. Ecologists don’t like this, to them this is putting humans first, like racism puts whites above blacks. But, they completely ignore that we are produced by nature, and nature continues to evolve and produce greater complexity of mind. They ignore this. The story of human history is the story of 200,000 years of gradual development to greater complexities of mind and heart.
Yes, we need the food chain otherwise we could not survive. But nature produced humans at the top of the food chain, nature put us there. Everything has value, true. But if you have the choice of killing ten monkeys or one human, normal people would kill the monkeys. Ecologists and greens think this is a grave travesty and that zebras and polar bears are worth more than humans.
It is an odd contradiction. I don’t see zebras rushing to save polar bears. Only humans with conscious minds and hearts try to do that.
I had to reply to Mr Broadbrush first but wanted to add that the impact of so many people expressing their disgust at No Pressure, both on blogs across the world and by letters written directly to the sponsors, is reasonable evidence that we can all have a small part to play in defeating the anti-life and anti-liberty evil ideology that these activists are promoting. The sponsors will hardly have picked up on this film by scanning their newspapers, since there has been almost no coverage to speak of (at least here in the UK). I wearily wrote my emails to them, not even expecting any sort of response or, if I was to get one, just the usual corporate newspeak stuff. BUT IT WORKED – because so many of us did it. From little acorns etc..
I really like to video. Am I on my own? I mean its not often I get the chance in my lunch hour to mail a pageful of bile to the Director of company and feel completely justified in doing so.
Thanks 10:10. Resorting to terrorist scare tactics and bullying is doing more damage to your cause than a thousand Watt or McIntyre blogs can do.
Hop
p.s. do you think I could run my central heating with a thousand Watt blog?
Where’s the outrage at NBC/General Electric/Winds-R-Us? It’s possible I missed their national coverage of this, of course.
List of 10:10 sponsors and supporters here
http://sadhillnews.com/2010/10/01/eco-terrorism-1010global-org-no-pressure-ad-campaign-made-possible-by-sony-and-others
e-mail adresses pulled from the site:
SUKPRteam@eu.sony.com
naomi.climer@eu.sony.com
howard.stringer@jp.sony.com
rik.kendall@eaga.com
info.us@telefonica.com
ashdentrust@sfct.org.uk
info@esmeefairbairn.org.uk
director@watesfoundation.org.uk
info@thefundingnetwork.org.uk
letters@guardian.co.uk
reader@guardian.co.uk
letters@Observer.co.uk
reader@Observer.co.uk
marketing@hearstdigital.co.uk
mail@actionaid.org
customercentre@carbontrust.co.uk
info@knaufinsulation.com
people@peopleandplanet.org
info@pirc.info
contact@pure360.com
Mike McMillan says:
October 4, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Thanks Mike – looks like the sponsor list is pretty thin (probably has been scrubbed – Sony is no longer there). Mostly British groups (hey look, “The Guardian” – would would have thought? heh…) O2 appears to be a proud sponsor – I’ll make sure to avoid them in the future.
If other big name sponsors are found, please let us all know by posting their names and contact info here. Thanks!
“Yeah but Fox news is pretty difficult to watch too.”
Not when Julie Banderas is on. Woah.
Andrew
I liked how Morano several times turned the discussion toward the topic that there is an “intellectual” theme in the whole environmental movement to silence skeptics with intimidation.
That needs to be emphasized. It is not just the 10:10 ideological environmentalists doing it. It is generic to the broad ideological environmental movement.
On a different aspect of ideological environmentalism, I recommend we focus toward contrasting the essential nature /concepts /values of ideological environmentalism versus the dominate trends of modern Western society.
I think if that contrast is brought into the open-light-of-day then there will be much more shocked reaction to it than that caused by the “No Pressure” video itself.
The ability to clearly focus on that contrast with high levels of energy by many independent thinkers . . . . that is the precious gift we received from 10:10. We thank you 10:10!!
John
>>The Children Schools and Families Bill reverses the fundamental principle
>>in English law that parents are responsible for the education of their children.
>>It would set up databases on English families, open homes to inspection,
But we only have ourselves to blame for this, because England is no longer England.
This change came about because it was discovered that a number of independent schools and many home taught children were being fed a diet of hatred of Western values, and being urged to commit terror.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0-jadXUKWM&feature=related
This is why this change in law is required. As you say it is a great shame, but we only have ourselves to blame.
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Fox are putting a Fox spin on it.
The film doesn’t just reflect poorly on the environmental movement, it, together with the poor response from the makers is making us Brits generally look like a bunch of silly tw@ts. Pardon the language.
H says:
October 4, 2010 at 8:39 pm
The video is offensive, not because kids get blown up (that happens on South Park and it is obviously make believe), but because it reinforces the belief that the AGW brigade are justified in silencing those who disagree or don’t believe.
The Greenpeace video using a young boy to try and intimdate sceptics was just as offensive but at least it was honest about its intent.
The UEA email scandal has taught them nothing. You cannot silence or intimidate people forever. Eventaully, the truth always gets out.
To really hurt 10:10, attack their funding. Governments and corporates that provide funding to these looneys really need to hold them to account.
I equate these sick scum to those renegades in African countires where civil war is rife, & children are stolen quite literally by either the ideological left-wing marxist rebels or by the corrupt government/dictator’s side, brutalised & given an AK47 or RPG launcher & their childhood is lost forever at such a young & tender age! I have a name for this kind of action, “Bloody Criminal!”. (Moderator snip profanity if desired). I put Greenpeace (Redwar) & 10:10 & Al Gore (“children, don’t listen to grwon-ups) into this catagory. It’s an abomination, AND it’s a form of child abuse!
Sigh. Let me add a bit more than a soundbyte. This is how many stories now about 10:10? They made a ridiculous video, I would never try to defend it, and they should be ashamed. But goodgreif people! Reading the comments here so many of you are just saying every single person who believes in AWG is of the same caliber.
How many more stories about 10:10 on this “best science blog” will we see?
Cue predictable responses in 3…2…1…
mr.john,
As far as twits go, we in the US look much worse than the Brits. Just check our normal media – lots about Lindsey Lohan, what to eat to keep skinny, dancing Filipino flight attendants, etc. but not much substance. At least you have decent beer.
Benjamin, the trouble is that we’ve known that they wanted to keep skeptic voices silent for some time. Moderation of undesired opinions on pro-warmist sites is rife, as you well know. Evidence of professional silencing was uncovered in Climategate. The propaganda has been steadily cranked up over recent years as the warmists have become ever more shrill with their message. Greenpeace, WWF, ACT (image of child with noose around neck) and many more.
The 10:10 video has finally woken the general public up to this.
It’s not so much that this one video is so repulsive (although it most certainly isn’t nice), it’s when you add it all together that you get a massive outburst when they finally go too far.
Government energy usage goes online as part of 10:10 campaign
Eliminating the way of life of thousands of English homeschooled families will not solve any problems England has with “hatred of Western values” within your immigrant populations. Abandoning English law and tradition which upholds family responsibility for children will not save you.
Mandating government inspections of homes and interviews with children without their parents will not save you; why do you think it will stop with homeschooled children? That is not a sensible assumption to make.
Do you think foreign populations will allow these gov’t invasions of homes? Or will they demand separate religious schools provided by the English taxpayers? Look at this clause in the bill:
a requirement for local authorities to provide full-time education for children and young people who, for various reasons, are in alternative provision
greater powers for school governing bodies on how they use their budgets, and the power to set up new schools and academies
It’s really interesting that you mention terrorism and hatred of Western values on this thread, since this very video was produced by environmentalist groups which are in fact generating educational school programmes.
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Benjamin P,
The favorite tactic of ideological environmentalists is to invoke the precautionary principle in their arguments.
Most of the commenters here are now invoking the precautionary principle on our own behalf regarding the blatant intimidation toward us as shown by the video; and also by many other public instances of intimidation from the ideological environmentalists.
This seems to be a very reasonable application by skeptics of the precautionary principle. It is also precautionary for skeptics to probe the basic ideas / values / actions of all similar groups to see what they really are versus what their nice PR shows them to be.
John
This isn’t just some one-off video from a fringe group, Benjamin P. This group purports to be mainstream; they get UK taxpayer money , and HAD corporate sponsors. Further they had some famous and semi-famous talent involved in the project.
There were simply too many people of too many walks of life involved in the making of this to claim “Oh this isn’t what we believe!”
I’m just not buying it.