Charles Rotter
I read this so you don’t have to.
A new paper published late May in Environmental Communication presents what is described as a “two-dimensional framework” for analyzing how climate scientists experience the public sphere. The lead author is Victor Avramov of the Athena Institute at VU University Amsterdam. The co-authors are at the University of Amsterdam and the Rathenau Institute in The Hague. The work was funded by the Dutch Research Council through the Dutch Science Agenda, file number NWA.1397.21223.014, paid for by Dutch taxpayers.
ABSTRACT
Climate scientists are increasingly drawn into a polarized public sphere, challenging relations between science and society. In this study, we interviewed thirty-five climate scientists – diverse in discipline and seniority – working in the Netherlands about their perceptions of, and experiences with public engagement. Based on our empirical material, we construct an analytical framework with a politization and participation axis on which we position their statements. Demarcating their public activities along these dimensions, climate scientists highlight concerns for scientific credibility, political efficacy, normative responsibility and individual capacity. While there is a clear opposition between those compelled to advocate for stringent climate policies or tackle misinformation and those who believe their main role is to provide solid knowledge and leave the normative choices to activists or politicians, only few scientists collaborate with stakeholders. Letting different stakeholders speak and participate in knowledge productions, we argue, may provide a solution to the science vs politics stranglehold.
The sample size is thirty-five. The sample consists of thirty-five climate change researchers from the Netherlands. The statistical method is to interview them for fifty to ninety minutes, transcribe the interviews, code the transcripts inductively, and then plot the resulting codes on a two-dimensional chart. The axes are labeled “Politization” (sic, throughout) and “Participation.” The axes have no units. The chart contains no data points and no scale, only four softly colored blobs of varying size labeled Demarcation, Seeking Impact, Activism, and Co-Creation. The bigger blobs represent more interviewees having said roughly similar things. The placement of the blobs within their quadrants is determined by the authors having decided that is where the blobs go.
This is what social science research looks like in 2026.
What the thirty-five interviewees have to say
The interview quotes, which take up most of the paper, deserve to be read at length. The plotting is less informative than the quotes themselves.
Here is interviewee P23 explaining why scientific neutrality may be overrated:
Besides being a scientist, I am also a citizen, and I am scared shitless about what is happening. Why should I not be allowed to speak out about it and why would it hurt my credibility, if it is actually science, which helps me understand what is happening?
The paper does not consider whether being scared shitless is a sound foundation for professional conduct. The paper plots P23 in the upper-left quadrant, which is labeled Activism. This is presented as a legitimate role for a scientist to occupy.
Here is interviewee P28, an Earth sciences professor, comparing the effectiveness of formal scientific advice to the European Union with the effectiveness of street protests:
I’m going to Brussels soon to talk to the EU. I could be talking in a void … but sometimes I doubt the effectiveness of that role compared to what we reach when we just take to the streets.
The paper does not raise the question that suggests itself, which is whether a scientist who has concluded that street protests are more effective than scientific consultation is still a scientist in any meaningful sense. P28 appears in Activism. P28 supplies several other quotes the authors find illuminating.
Here is P28 on the burdens of being a moral exemplar among the unenlightened:
I do feel estranged from some colleagues that I was good friends with because they never wanted to apply the climate crisis to themselves, to their own political lives.
The paper treats this as evidence of institutional friction with activist scholars. The friction is real. The other reading, which the paper does not consider, is that the friends in question may have grown tired of being lectured.
Here is P15, in the same general region of the plot, on the indignity of being labeled what they evidently are. The interviewee, the paper reports, admitted to censoring
themselves out of the fear of being called an activist.
The paper presents this as a problem. The chilling effect of accurate labeling is preventing the activist from doing more of the activism. The accurate labeling is the problem. The activism is the data.
The chart
The methodological centerpiece is Figure 1, a two-dimensional framework on which the four clusters of interview statements are plotted by their relative degrees of politization and participation. The axes have no units. The blobs have no coordinates. The placement of the blobs in their quadrants was determined by the authors in collaboration. The figure caption notes that higher color density represents higher frequency,
which gives the chart its only quantitative dimension: how often the interviewees said things that fell into each cluster, as determined by the authors’ own coding decisions.

The chart has axes. The axes have labels. The chart has clusters. The clusters have positions. The chart has a color-coded legend.
This makes the chart scientific in the sense that it is shaped like science.
What the chart tells the reader, on inspection, is that out of thirty-five interviews, the largest cluster of statements fell in the upper-left quadrant labeled Activism. The next-largest fell in the middle, labeled Seeking Impact. A smaller cluster appears on the right, labeled Co-Creation. A thin sliver appears on the lower-left, labeled Demarcation. Demarcation is the position of scientists who believe their job is to do science and to leave politics to politicians and activism to activists.
The paper treats this thin sliver as the limiting baseline to be overcome. The activist blob, in the upper left, is presented as a more mature and developed position. The co-creation blob on the right is the position the paper ultimately recommends.
Where this is going
The discussion concludes that the way out of the “science-versus-politics stranglehold” is participation. Specifically, citizen assemblies in which scientists and members of the public deliberate together about climate research. The closing paragraph helpfully discloses:
In a current research project, we are exploring the potential of the democratic innovation of citizen assemblies in the domain of science communication.
The paper that diagnoses the stranglehold and prescribes citizen assemblies as the cure is written by people who are funded to study citizen assemblies. The diagnosis arrives matched to the prescription as if by appointment. The Dutch taxpayer is paying for both.
The discussion further commends intellectual humility
and being an honest broker of knowledge
and observes that scientists running citizen assemblies must be trusted as neutral.
The thirty-five interviewees, plotted across the framework, contain almost nobody in the demarcation quadrant who could plausibly be described as trusted to be neutral. The neutral scientists, in the paper’s own data, are the small marginal cluster. The activists and the participation enthusiasts are the bulk. The paper’s recommended fix for the trust problem is that those activists and participation enthusiasts should run the citizen assemblies in which they are trusted to be neutral.
A note on the broader context
There is a serious point underneath the methodological theater. The thirty-five interviewees represent a profession that has spent the last fifteen years building public credibility on the strength of being scientists. The credibility has been pledged to scenarios that have now been formally retired (see our extensive recent coverage of the death of SSP5-8.5 and SSP3-7.0), to attribution claims downstream of those scenarios, and to a political program that has consistently overstated the certainty of the science. Public trust has shifted accordingly. The paper’s thirty-five interviewees are part of the system that produced that shift and have noticed.
The Avramov paper is what happens when the people inside that system look around, notice that things have gone sideways, and conclude that the problem must be the boundaries between science and politics. Not the substance of the science. Not the choice of scenarios. Not the alignment of published conclusions with the funding priorities of state research councils. Not the fifteen-year pattern of overstating findings to support pre-existing policy preferences.
The problem, in this paper’s framing, is that the scientists have not been doing enough activism.
The solution is more activism, conducted under a different name, with the participation of citizens brought along through deliberation. On the paper’s own evidence, the activist scientists want to be trusted while also being political. They want to be neutral while also being activists. They want to be heard while also lecturing. They want to be considered scientists while also taking to the streets. They want to be paid by the state while also speaking truth to it. They are caught, the title says, in the fray. They are also scared shitless. The paper plots all of this carefully.
The thirty-five interviewees of the Netherlands are now on record. The Dutch Research Council, having paid for the insight, will presumably commission more.
That is the grant cycle doing its job, which is what the grant cycle has always been for.

Charles Rotter…you are all heart..!
Just stop it.
If a Dutch ‘climate scientist’ is ‘scared shitless’ the best solution is Depends.
Much more reliable than study ‘chart’ Figure 1. Depends degree of polarization—low, just solves adult incontinence no matter the adult’s politics. Depends degree of participation—high among all adult incontinents. And the brand is still called Depends in Dutch Netherlands.
🤣
Why Depends if shitless? Wouldn’t Ducolax be better?
One of my professors insisted that regarding any claim the best initial response is “It depends.” You have just offered a new dimension to that suggestion!
It seems that the madness virus finds leftists easy to infect while the rest of us watch the world go on……. without worry as the planet loves all that extra CO2 floating around that is driving a big life bloom.
Who are these
climate scientistsDrama Queens that are so scared of the weather? How old are they? I’ll bet they’re younger, and have been indoctrinated from an early age with all the doom and gloom propaganda. They’re probably scared of their own shadows.Maybe. I’m not convinced they believe half of what they say and write. But they do make money off of it, and many people are willing to sell their soul for a fistful of dollars.
They believe all of it. A state more scary than any other.
Drama
QueensGreensBlob on the right should be “Co-Fabrication”
All but the sliver have been consumed!
These guys need to be “Institutionalised”…
… oh wait.. they already are !
Muammar Gaddafi, the late Libyan dictator, would have been proud that his success with citizen assemblies was being emulated by a rich, developed economy.
‘Feelings, nothing more than feelings …’ I feel a song coming on.
As sung by Elmer Fudd…
“Feewings… nothing more than wascally feewings…”
P23’s question – which I am sure he did not really mean to ask – didn’t show up on the graph at all, even though it is the pivotal question of the whole article – paper – branch of metaphysics – being addressed: ‘…, if it is actually science…[?]”
Unfortunately, the question was not part of the interview. ‘Cause it would open each of them up to the question, if the first answer was ‘YES,’ then;
What IS science, and how does your work [opinion] qualify?
I would bet a buffalo nickel that many of them are computer programmers.
Just a guess.
Yet another piece of worthless trash from the other side. One thing this study shows very clearly is that there are far too many people collecting a paycheck under the pretense of being a scientist. Without the reach and power of crappy government these knuckleheads wouldn’t have gotten anywhere. What this shows is that crappy government can force all kinds of crap on the poor taxpayer and ratepayer and it has nothing to do with science.
I agree. And these ‘far too many people’ are busily churning out mountains of paper. Most of these papers will never be read by anyone. They are simply providing a means of scientific accredition by counting the number of papers an author wrote or collaborated in. The result is many thousands of papers produced annually, few of which have any importance to anything.
Ah, but, but, but, peer reviewed! Makes the papers perfect, dontchknow. /s
I’m a Climate Scientist! I make crap up just to scare people s#1tless and get money from the government. I’m very successful! There are couples that afraid to have children! There are people who have set themselves on fire and died because they believe the fiction I write! Am I good or am I good!?
But still, 99.9% of people (in my view) do not worry about CC and they use FF just as they would without all the fear mongering. Moreover, this “climate scientist” (professional liar and fearmonger) uses FF every minute of every day of his life and so why should others not follow his actions, despite his words?
No. It is actually 97%. 😉
Great article, Charles.
I’m sure glad you read it for me!
The climate Alarmists have to jump through all these hoops because they still can’t prove what they claim about CO2 and the weather and climate. If they had any solid evidence they wouldn’t have to go through all these gyrations. They are grasping at straws.
None of this is science which requires devotion to its principals, not its applications. Selling not thinking. The paper’s link shows a new journal —“The Critical Insights Series–APC costs covered by Taylor & Francis in 2026–Advancing research: quality, impact, progression, partnership, trust, Advanced publishing for impactful research”
“We’re dedicated to ensuring your groundbreaking research receives the attention it deserves….Shape the future: Drive real-world change and reach audiences worldwide….”
That is what should be scary!!
I think I meant principles, but the principals should be principled!
They all have principles and if you don’t like them, they have others.
Charles’ sentence:
“This makes the chart scientific in the sense that it is shaped like science.”
describes all of consensus climatology.
As in: ‘This makes consensus climatology scientific in the sense that it is shaped like science.‘
But of course, it isn’t science. Consensus climatology wears the robes, but hasn’t the substance.
“thirty-five climate scientists – diverse in discipline and seniority” and, on the evidence, none of whom have the training (or inclination) to evaluate the physical reliability of their own data or their own models.
They’re not scientists at all.
Consensus climatology is a mathematically elaborated philosophical system founded on the ineluctably concretized axiom that CO₂ emissions warm the climate.
When Obama signed ObamaCare he gathered a few dozen dignitaries and White House interns around him and had them all wear white lab coats.
It’s all about the optics.
Please don’t abuse the worde optics. Visuals does the job just fine.
“Climate scientists are increasingly drawn into a polarized public sphere”
Rabbits are increasingly thrown into briar patches?
I remember a well-known climate scientist writing about the need for climate scientists to exaggerate the results of their work to gain the public’s attention, leading to Government action. The author did point out that it was up to each individual climate scientist to determine how much exaggeration was acceptable while retaining her/his integrity.
No, they have pushed themselves into the public sphere to enhance their careers.
If they stuck to publishing instead of publicising and promoting their work they could be carrying out more real world data collection.
And another thing, the “science” journal can’t even give a proper web link to their own supplementary material. Clicking on the link takes us to
Just the title of that scares me shitless – grooming anyone?
Just for the hell of it, I searched for the title ‘Facilitating change: personal journeys of male facilitators in gender and masculinities programming with adolescent boys’. This is the abstract of the article:
ABSTRACTThe Gender Lab (TGL) has learnt that young facilitators of gender norms change programs for adolescent boys experience transformations of their own. Having centred lived experiences of gender and masculinities in interventions towards norms change to redefine masculinities since 2017, this practice note holds TGL’s enquiries of these transformations in the lives of young cisgender heterosexual male facilitators of The Gender Lab Boys Program. The note captures facilitators’ stories of employing vulnerability, humour and local slang to connect with adolescent boys through a program to redefine masculinities, and the reflections on their own masculinities that these efforts evoked. The note attempts to sift evidence of ongoing relational re-constructions of masculinity between the young men and the boys from these stories, revealing shifts in facilitators’ own performances, expressions, and exercises of gender and masculinities alongside their negotiations with the pressure of masculine norms across contexts. This work hence suggests that working with boys as role models could be an intervention for young men towards discovering a changed narrative of masculinity in their lives. The tensions shared by the facilitators, including living intervention values across spheres of life and facing isolation as men in feminist masculinities work, lead the note to call for compassionate spaces to hold the experiences of facilitators of norms change work on gender and masculinities.
It is from a Taylor and Francis Online journal called Development in Practice. The full article costs £41 for 48 hours viewing. As Charles Rotter doesn’t sometimes quite say, I haven’t wasted my money on it so you don’t have to either.
There is a vast ecology of academics producing articles like this for publishing houses that somehow contrive to make money. The entire system seems to be rotten. There are far too many academics, publication is used as a largely meretricious gauge of achievement, publishing houses don’t care as long as there is money to be made, students have to put up with being taught the results. And the opportunity costs are colossal.
I thought this was worth mentioning here, because of course a great part of the ‘climate change’ literature is a part of this ecosystem. You would only have to change a few words of this abstract, here and there, to generate an anguished analysis of ‘why masculinities are in denial about climate change, and how facilitators working to redefine the lived reflextivity of imagined norms of science deniaIism need compassionate spaces to hold their experiences’. It is beyond satire. I can’t do it. Anyway, this is what we are up against. The beast is big, slow, lazy and stupid, but also very powerful. RCP 8.5 is dead, but the forces of the blob that used it as a means to power have not gone away.
Given the massive volume of research papers submitted for publication, it is not surprising the what peer review once was has morphed into “pal review.”
They are scared shitless that their lies are being exposed, and that they will have to get a real job in the real world.
“that they will have to get a real job in the real world.”
Sanitation Engineers ?
I’m pretty sure they know how to use the shovel-they’ve been flinging BS for years…just a different place to dump it.
As we know social science isn’t science. Thank you.
Just about any discipline with “science” or “studies” in its title can be expected to have little to do with science and require less in the way of study.
Cold, true, but cold.
Hmmm…. “climate science” seems to fit that description, eh? 🙂
Sounds like they could use some “Dutch courage”.
I take offence to that. 🙂 . The expression goes back to the 1666 plague of the black death that ravaged London. The Dutch merchant navy were the only ones that dared to supply the city, albeit, indeed, with the crews infused with ‘Dutch Courage’, that is a modicum of Dutch ‘jenever’, gin. The Londoners haven’t forgotten and Dutch vessels still enjoy some privileges in its harbours.
The only possible conclusion that social sciences can draw is … some do, some don’t.
— Ernest Rutherford
Guest Satire:
Naturally, science has now progressed far beyond the primitive habits of Galileo and Pasteur. Those men, trapped in antiquated centuries, still believed experiments mattered. Worse, they imagined nature could overturn consensus. Fortunately, modern civilization has matured. We now understand that truth emerges not from stubborn observations, but from aligned stakeholder frameworks, interdisciplinary narratives, and fifty-seven signatories on a jointly authored executive summary.
Galileo, for instance, committed the grave methodological error of pointing at Jupiter and saying, “Look.”
This sort of behavior today would rightly be flagged as anecdotal.
What was one telescope against the broad consensus of established geocentric scholarship? Did he convene a citizen assembly? Did he conduct participatory outreach with ecclesiastical moderators? Did he submit his findings to a communications impact assessment regarding social cohesion?
No. He simply observed moons.
The arrogance.
Likewise, Pasteur selfishly ruined perfectly healthy debates about spontaneous generation by introducing repeatable demonstrations. Before him, the issue enjoyed broad participatory ambiguity. Scholars, aristocrats, and rural mystics all possessed equally resonant narratives concerning fermentation. Then Pasteur arrived with flasks and microbes, recklessly prioritizing reproducibility over inclusivity.
One shudders to imagine his behavior under present standards.
Today, had Pasteur claimed invisible organisms caused disease, the response would have been properly scientific:
And rightly so.
For we now know that a single contradictory fact proves absolutely nothing — unless, of course, it supports the prevailing narrative, in which case it proves everything immediately and should be amplified by institutional communications teams before lunch.
The old philosophers once claimed that one black swan disproves the proposition that all swans are white. What naïve reductionism! Modern epistemology teaches us that the swan must first undergo contextual review by a multidisciplinary panel to determine whether whiteness itself is an exclusionary framework inherited from colonial ornithology.
Besides, examples are dangerous. A single example may lead to questions. Questions may lead to uncertainty. And uncertainty, if unmanaged, can threaten funding continuity.
Consensus, by contrast, is wonderfully stable.
Consensus has the extraordinary property of being measurable before discovery occurs. Indeed, many scientific questions are now settled long before experiments inconveniently complicate them. This greatly accelerates progress. Why wait for contradictory evidence when one can release a statement affirming “the science” this afternoon?
To be fair, defenders of the older approach insist that science advances precisely because consensus can be overturned by observation. They mention tectonic drift, ulcers caused by bacteria, or semmelweisian handwashing — quaint examples from the barbaric era when empirical data occasionally embarrassed elite opinion.
But this misunderstands the contemporary function of science communication.
Science today is not merely about understanding nature. It is about maintaining confidence in understanding nature. The distinction is essential. Galileo’s telescope generated discord. Pasteur’s microbes disrupted established expertise. Such instability would score poorly in modern institutional risk assessments.
This is why democratic scientific innovation has become indispensable. Citizen assemblies, stakeholder dialogues, and consensus forums ensure that no rogue electron of observation escapes procedural moderation. Under this enlightened model, hypotheses are no longer judged solely by predictive power, but by social resonance, emotional accessibility, and implementation harmony.
One might object:
An unfortunate misconception.
Reality, while historically influential, is increasingly viewed as only one voice among many. Lived experience, institutional values, communication ethics, and strategic messaging now occupy equal footing with brute empirical outcomes. This prevents science from descending into the chaos of merely being correct.
Imagine the danger if every inconvenient observation were allowed to challenge prevailing assumptions. Civilization would collapse under endless telescope adjustments and fungal cultures.
No society could survive such epistemic volatility.
Therefore we may confidently proclaim the First Principle of Modern Scientific Communication:
Galileo would never have survived the media cycle.
Pasteur would have been sent to communications training.
And Newton — discovering gravity alone beneath a tree without community consultation — would almost certainly have lost grant eligibility.
You just transcribe a high school science curriculum.
I kid you not.
A student proposes an idea. The other students vote to determine if the idea is valid.
Ah, the struggle to appear relevant when you are just too much of a nobody. Poor sods.
I wonder what the Dutch taxpayers think about their money being spent on this crap.