How Will New York’s Energy Madness End? The “Don’t Do It!” Report

From the MANHATTAN CONTRARIAN

Francis Menton

I frequently write about how the mandates for energy transition that New York has adopted are impossible and irreconcilable in the real world; and therefore it is inevitable that they will have to be abandoned at some point when implementation of the project runs up against physical reality.

Probably the most frequent question that I get asked is, OK, how and when will that occur?

The question is important because for as long as the impossible mandates remain in place they are causing massive ongoing damage to our electricity system and to consumers. As examples, on the electricity generation side, natural gas power plants that currently supply about half of our electricity are slated for forced closure at the rate of several a year until all of them are closed by 2040. The longer the net zero fantasy goes on, the more difficult and costly it will be to re-open these plants (if they are even still standing), or build new ones. Wind and solar facilities are getting built at the cost of billions, with huge subsidies, producing essentially no useful power. Every time another one gets built, the taxpayers and ratepayers are on the hook to pay its costs for its entire life. On the consumer side, residents of large buildings are under a mandate to discard their current natural gas or oil heat systems in favor of inferior electric heat pumps, at costs estimated at $100,000 per housing unit or more for older buildings. When the net zero project gets abandoned, these massive investments will be a deadweight loss. And there are many other examples of the ongoing damage being caused by the mandates.

So what will be the event that causes the project to crater? If nothing else comes first, at some point we will get hit with a string of catastrophic blackouts. That would surely wake people up and almost certainly force a re-think of the project. But just waiting for this catastrophe to turn things around is not really a great idea, for two reasons: first, to their credit, the people who run the grid are good at keeping it going in difficult circumstances, meaning that we could get “lucky,” and the catastrophe could be postponed for years during which enormous ongoing damage from mal-investment occurs; and the second problem is that when the blackouts come they could cause real human harm and tragedy, such as deaths of people with electric heat who freeze in their apartments. In other words, people who care about New York owe it to their fellow citizens to try to straighten this out before the catastrophe hits.

And thus it comes about that three public-spirited guys, who have been observing the ongoing slow-motion train wreck with horror, have written a Report to urge New Yorkers to defy the statutory mandates to electrify building heat. The title of the Report is “Don’t Do It! Report to New York Co-op and Condo Boards and Trade Associations On LL97 Conversion To Electric Heat.”

The three public-spirited guys are myself and co-authors Roger Caiazza and Richard Ellenbogen. Caiazza is a retired air pollution meteorologist who has a blog called the Pragmatic Environmentalist of New York, where he writes prolifically about New York’s impending energy disaster. Ellenbogen is a Cornell-trained electrical engineer who does not have a big internet presence, but is a very knowledgeable frequent commenter on New York’s various regulator dockets relating to the energy transition, where he pulls no punches. The three of us wrote this Report for no compensation so that nobody could accuse us of being shills for the fossil fuel industry or the real estate industry or any other special interest.

The reason that the Report is directed to condominium and co-op Boards and Trade Associations is that the condo/co-op community represents a group of hundreds of thousands of voters who find themselves in the cross-hairs of New York’s impossible energy mandates. Among other New York residents, small building residents and single-family homeowners have been exempted from the heat conversion mandates (at least for now), while rental tenants are insulated by rent regulations. So the boards and shareholders of the large condos and co-ops are the largest group of residents directly affected by the mandates. Many boards of these buildings are only now starting to look into how to comply with the 2030 mandate to convert to electric heat, and getting feedback from consultants about the enormous costs. Few of them realize that the State at the same time has no credible plan to generate enough electricity to make the heat conversion mandate work.

The distribution of the Report to the relevant communities has recently begun. Daughter Jane — known to readers here as a frequent contributor — has set up a group called New Yorkers for Affordable Reliable Energy (“New Yorkers ARE”) to organize grass-roots opposition to complying with the heat conversion mandate. Co-author Roger Caiazza wrote a post for Watts Up With That two weeks ago announcing the issuance of the Report.

I recommend the Report to readers who are at all interested in the depths of ignorance and incompetence of the New York legislators and regulators who are pushing the impossible “energy transition.” It’s only about 15 pages long, with a good Introduction and Executive Summary at the beginning that capture the gist. Here is a summary quote from the Executive Summary:

The Net Zero transition is by far the largest, most expensive and ambitious government-directed project ever undertaken in New York. However, the statutory mandates of the CLCPA and LL 97 have been enacted without:

• Any detailed Feasibility Study of whether this transition is possible under basic physics and existing technology;

• Any Demonstration Project anywhere in the world showing how an electrical grid can function relying on mostly on wind and solar and without emissions-creating resources for back-up of intermittency;

• Any detailed analysis or projection of the costs to New Yorkers of this transition, whether in their capacities as taxpayers or ratepayers or both.

This Report assesses issues of the feasibility and cost of New York’s electricity transition project. The purpose is to advise New York residents, particularly co-op and condo owners and their Boards who are subject to LL 97, on how they should respond to the statutory mandates. The Report reviews facts and data showing that there are strong reasons to believe that the goals that have been set, and mandated by law, are impossible of achievement, let alone at any remotely affordable cost. The State and City have totally failed in their responsibilities to their citizens to assure that the mandates they have enacted are feasible and affordable.

So to get back to the initial question of how New York’s energy madness will end: An alternative to just waiting for the blackouts to come will be for a critical mass of New Yorkers in the cross-hairs of the mandates to refuse to comply and to demand that the mandates be rescinded. We are attempting to start that process into motion. Let’s hope that we have some success.

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Tom Halla
July 29, 2024 6:15 am

Just another case of virtue signaling with Other Peoples Money.

Reply to  Tom Halla
July 29, 2024 6:51 am

Good one! It’s going in my file (-:

Dave Yaussy
July 29, 2024 6:20 am

Good luck, Francis. I appreciate the excellent work you, Roger and Richard are doing, with no recompense. It’s frustrating to watch this slow train wreck occur, without those in power recognizing the screamingly obvious problems. Where is the NY Times investigation of this incompetence?

The question answers itself.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Dave Yaussy
July 29, 2024 8:02 am

No recompense? Surely they are getting trillions from nefarious oil and gas interests just like the rest of us skeptical commenters on WUWT?

Yes, I know. Some of you need this: /sarc

July 29, 2024 6:23 am

The imbeciles should look across the pond and see the results in England, Germany and elsewhere at the foolishness of this green energy rubbish. The utter failure and waste of precious resources have left society on the brink. Couple that with inflation and a growing lousy economic conditions and unemployment has added to the misery we are all experiencing.

strativarius
Reply to  George T
July 29, 2024 6:52 am

And despite the cuts and tax rises coming soon it’s net zero or bust…

Reply to  strativarius
July 29, 2024 9:41 am

net zero and bust

Rich Davis
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 29, 2024 11:53 am

Well, bust anyway.

traxiii
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 31, 2024 10:19 am

Yep, they’ll never get even close.

Reply to  George T
July 29, 2024 11:30 am

There’s no money or kickbacks in it for them by looking across the pond.

Ed Zuiderwijk
July 29, 2024 6:25 am

Keep a list of individuals who push this ‘transition’ into the impossible. Let it be known that they will be held accountable for every death that can attributed directly to the idiocy, by prosecution for second degree murder and manslaughter. People will freeze to death, will perish on operating tables, will die through violence during blackouts and who knows what other circumstances.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
July 29, 2024 10:25 am

#BigGreenKnew

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
July 29, 2024 11:33 am

No one was held accountable for the untold number of injuries and deaths from the COVID response. What makes anyone think there will be any accountability for injury and deaths from the “transition”?

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
July 29, 2024 12:36 pm

You certainly know that the only time your suggestions ever have the slightest chance of being carried out is when the torches and pitchforks come out and general mass slaughter runs rampant.

July 29, 2024 6:30 am

However, the mandates have been enacted without: Any Demonstration Project anywhere…

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An industry buzz word around 1990 or so was, “Ready Fire Aim.” The rational at the time was sometimes it’s good to just go ahead and do it. “Inventory is Evil” was also popular around that time as was “Just in Time” that was finally mocked as “Just too late!” ISO900 was also big back then.

Buzzwords come and go. Net Zero will finally be trashed. It’s a matter of time. But as Francis points out, that may happen “Just Too Late”
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People need to understand that Water and Carbon Dioxide are the
Feed Stocks of life on Earth. CO2 is more than mere fertilizer.

Neil Lock
Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2024 6:58 am

There’s a reason why they have never done a prototype Nett Zero project, anywhere in the world. They know it would fail, and then the people would know what was being done to them. They are desperate to prevent that happening before it’s too late. This is because the destruction of our industrial civilization is their agenda. Never forget Maurice Strong: ““Frankly, we may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse.”

They say they want to save the planet. But they don’t want to save it for us. They want to “save” it from us.

0perator
Reply to  Neil Lock
July 29, 2024 7:26 am

I think “The Line” or Neom is a net zero project. Hard to tel that though with hundreds of diesel powered cars reshaping the desert in Saudi Arabia.

Reply to  Neil Lock
July 29, 2024 8:05 am

“There’s a reason why they have never done a prototype Net Zero
project, anywhere in the world. They know it would fail . . .”
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The “Duck Test” says you’re right.

Bob Rogers
Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2024 9:18 am

“Just in Time” was widely misunderstood. What it really mean was optimizing the amount of inventory, not eliminating it.

Mr.
Reply to  Bob Rogers
July 29, 2024 9:28 am

Yes.
And hand-in-hand with the JIT approach was the Kanban card system of production flow control.
Toyota used these to great effect.

auto
Reply to  Mr.
July 29, 2024 12:03 pm

And ISO 9000 had many good points – look at BS 5750 [1987]..
Not as a mandated qualification for any vendor, but a useful tool to make sure ‘Right First Time, Every Time’.
Then the propagation of a family of increasingly jargon-worded standards for, well, almost anything. Safety, software, environment, HR; Security; PR … the list continues.
Folk were building empires – because they could.
Not because this plethora of standards was generally needed [ISO 9001 could be applied …] – but to fatten their own goose!

Auto
{Been there – got out!].

Mr.
Reply to  auto
July 29, 2024 1:29 pm

Hi Auto.
I agree totally with the mission-creep that standards compliance has inflicted on developed economies and businesses all around the world.

I can’t be overly critical though – I’m still on an earner from maintaining compliance stuff I implemented 20 years ago. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Reply to  auto
July 29, 2024 5:15 pm

The snark on ISO 9000 was you could still make junk, but it would be certified junk.

strativarius
July 29, 2024 6:50 am

How Will New York’s Energy Madness End?

I’m guessing it won’t be quite as bad as the Miliband supremacy. The locals don’t get a look in, a bunch of nimby’s

Reply to  strativarius
July 30, 2024 3:44 am

Yeah, it looks like the UK is going to be the crash-test dummy for the rest of us.

Is New York outsourcing its industries the way the UK is doing?

And then there is Germany, who are sending all their industries to the U.S. and China as a result of trying to implement Net Zero.

Net Zero is not going to end well for a lot of people. And end it will, because it is an Impossible Dream. Even if one of these entities achieves Net Zero, they still lose because the rest of the world is not implementing Net Zero and never will.

Net Zero advocates are Spinning Their Wheels, and costing the rest of us a lot of money for no good purpose.

Human-caused Climate Change Charlatans are SO destructive. They have devastated the lives of millions of people. Let’s hope that one day they and their lies are held to account.

DonK31
July 29, 2024 7:13 am

Until the bastards freeze in the dark for a third time, the government of the State will continue to push further toward the impossible dream.

The first time is an accident. The second time is a coincidence. The third time is an attack.

Reply to  DonK31
July 29, 2024 10:47 am

And all blamed on the greedy utility and FF companies.

Rich Davis
Reply to  DonK31
July 29, 2024 12:04 pm

And the fourth time it’s ‘what black-out?’ You must have experienced a highly localized technical glitch. Maybe a car crash took down the power lines or something. (In line with ‘what medieval warm period?’ Just regional weather).

July 29, 2024 7:42 am

This should just be the start of the “counter-revolution”. If citizens of democracies don’t wake up and start defending their future, that future will rapidly become bleak and short. A large number of our current “leaders” (people that we collectively elected) are leading us to oblivion as fast as their incompetence and corruption can manage. Modern western society has been so successful that several generations have adopted a belief that the values and standards that brought success are no longer necessary, and understanding the physical principles of nature and the economic principles of society is optional. We are rapidly approaching the cliff with our foot still firmly pressed to the accelerator.

July 29, 2024 7:55 am

“…. the more difficult and costly it will be to re-open these plants…”

Here in Wokeachusetts, when they shut down a ff plant, they blow up the chimney, just to make sure. With a big party!

auto
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 29, 2024 12:08 pm

In the UK, we knock the whole caboodle down, sell the scrap to the Chinese, dig up the foundations, salt the earth and then ask Googler Maps to show a nice field – with furry bunnies.

Auto
/sarc – the furry bunny bit, anyway.

mydrrin
July 29, 2024 7:57 am

Worst case scenario is that all the government money they spend will have to be bailed out by more government money. See how the grift works? It’s like solving the “homeless crisis”, it just takes an endless amount of government money and government people to “grow” your city and pay for the people to “solve” the problem.

July 29, 2024 8:24 am

Francis, here’s a shortcut once the ‘critical mass’ has digested the report, Run for Governor!

Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 30, 2024 3:52 am

Yeah, if Francis doesn’t run, someone less knowledgeable might be elected.

If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself, many times.

StephenP
July 29, 2024 8:51 am

One aspect of the conversion of all New York heating being achieved by the use of heat pumps I find hard to get my head around is the amount of heat being taken out of the air by the immense numer of homes being heated in an area of very high home density.
Once the heat has been extracted, does the cold air need to be replaced by warmer air to repeat the cycle.
If so, is there enough air movement to achieve this?
Similarly with ground source heat pumps, is the heat replaced at a sufficient rate or does one end up with a block of frozen ground.
IIRC when the huge dams were built in the Western US refrigeration plants had to be built into the concrete in order to remove the heat generated when the concrete was setting.

Reply to  StephenP
July 29, 2024 12:59 pm

Just don’t do the building insulation too well. Suck in the heat and let it seep out fast enough to keep the cycle going.

sleat
July 29, 2024 9:22 am

If only BlackRock came to own all of those properties (eventually), it might be fairly simple for them to “cut a deal” with whoever was enforcing the impossible mandates to make it all “work”.

July 29, 2024 9:28 am

so that nobody could accuse us of being shills

They will anyway.

Robert Cutler
July 29, 2024 9:42 am

Francis, a couple of years ago I did a deep dive into this subject and reached pretty much the same conclusion — the mandates are impossible. My research was primarily looking at EV mandates and how they intersected with reduced emission mandates. There were several other conclusions that I reached, the first of which was that, without a change in driving habits (average of 14,200 miles/year), the average EV (4,935 kWh/year) is equivalent to about 1/2 of the average US home (11,000 kWh/year) in terms of energy consumption. This has obvious implications for not only for generation, and long-distance power distribution, but also for local distribution (e.g. transformers that feed a few homes). These local transformers are likely not sized for an EV, or two in every garage. Your condo owners may need to also factor in the need for infrastructure upgrades to deal with increased electrical loads, not only from heat pumps, but also from mandated charging infrastructure.

For NY I reached the following conclusion: New York State had enough planned offshore windfarms to cover EV growth, but not enough to do that and eliminate its dependency on gas electricity generation, which currently (2021) provides 46% their power. Of course we now know that several offshore windfarm projects are at risk. In 2021 NY also had over 4 million registered (ICE) vehicles. The math is not hard, so one does have to wonder if failure is a feature, and not a defect in the planning.

The other thing that became quite obvious to me is that you can’t limit the effects of state policies to the individual states. Power distribution is regional, which for NY includes Canada. California and Washington’s EV and net-zero policies will affect the price of electricity in other regional states which aren’t on the same green trajectory.

KevinM
July 29, 2024 9:54 am

Diablo Canyon is still running?

Mason
Reply to  KevinM
July 29, 2024 11:46 am

Yes!

July 29, 2024 10:15 am

The thing that’s so weird about this stuff is the way local jurisdictions start to set net zero targets “because climate”, when their actions can have no effect on climate, even if the CAGW theories are correct. They are attempting to do something which can only be done at the very least at a national level, and for most countries not even that.

And they often do it when there are national plans in place, and often their plans are not compatible with them. Its sort of like a local village declaring itself a nuclear free zone, which they were powerless to enforce since such matters are decided at a national level.

The most ridiculous example I have seen lately was the declaration of a climate emergency by the town of Thetford, in Norfolk, England. Population 25,000!

Its a real illness in the English speaking world. People will do just about anything rather than just do their jobs, what they were elected to do, keep the verges mowed and the the town hall in good repair…

Mr.
Reply to  michel
July 29, 2024 10:57 am

When my local town council announced a “climate emergency”, I phoned 911 to alert them and receive assurance that all emergency response agencies were on stand-by, and to ask what survival measures we individual citizens are instructed to take, since no such information was forthcoming from the Council who sounded the emergency alarm.

911 told me to call the Council, as it was not on their run-sheet.

Which I did, and was told by the Council that I was going to be reported as a crank caller, and threatened with a police visit.

Of course I asked if the police person could please bring with them an instruction set for personal survival of this declared emergency.

The phone got slammed down on me, but disappointingly, no police or other emergency response personnel have ever knocked on my door.

Should I join Facebook or some-such, and start up a citizens’ self-survival advice group?

Reply to  Mr.
July 29, 2024 11:27 am

https://cape.mysociety.org/councils/

The number of UK councils that have declared a climate emergency is amazing.

“A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many
I had not thought death had undone so many…”

Mr.
Reply to  michel
July 29, 2024 1:43 pm

Michel, I count 92 of those Councils that have declared a “climate emergency”, but have ticked “NO PLAN”.

Kinda makes my point –
all lip service with no substance.

We pay these charlatans?

KevinM
Reply to  Mr.
July 29, 2024 1:00 pm

Should I join Facebook or some-such, and start up a citizens’ self-survival advice group?

I don’t have an account to check, but I’d be surprised if such a group doesn’t exist in earnest. Does it? Maybe Google knows.

Mr.
Reply to  KevinM
July 29, 2024 1:33 pm

Kevin, I suspect that if such a group was started on Facebook, Instagram, etc it would be swiftly shut down.

Distracting from “the settled science narrative”, doncha know, innit.

KevinM
Reply to  michel
July 29, 2024 12:58 pm

It seems unfair to simultaneously ridicule “them” for flying private jets aka not leading by example and ridicule them for local regulations aka leading by example. “We” know where “they” live. In the US, the geographical self sorting is a reason for both states rights and for the electoral college.

July 29, 2024 12:42 pm

Just who will end up in the re-education labor camps is the big question.

Christopher Chantrill
July 29, 2024 12:51 pm

How will it end? I doubt if there will be a clarifying moment. Think of the great disasters of the 20th century: Stalin’s Five Year Plans; Mao’s Great Leap Forward. They ended in The Great Purge and the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution.

Same thing with Climate Change. You are not allowed to disagree, or you are a “climate denier.”

I say that a political movement can never admit a mistake. Because if it does, it is no longer the transcendental movement that will lead us to the Promised Land.

Politics is about fighting the enemy. And if the NetZero movement starts to fail, it will be the fault of the climate deniers. Obviously.

Bob
July 29, 2024 1:57 pm

Very nice Francis, kudos to you, Roger and Richard. Nothing could point out how ill suited government is for issues like this than what is happening in New York. Why isn’t it illegal to create mandates for some while others are let off the hook. I think the reason they did this is because if they made it mandatory for all their program would be stopped dead in its tracks. These committees, councils, regulators and politicians are criminals in my view and need to be held personally responsible for property damage, personal injuries and deaths.

July 29, 2024 3:36 pm

The poster child for Net Zero Insanity (NZI) is Sri Lanka with it’s disastrous 2022 organic rice mandate.

Government approved social and economic suicide at its finest.

dbakerber
July 30, 2024 12:06 pm

My question is this. They say they need “a new resource that is firm, dispatchable, and has no emissions that can power the system for days without significant recharge from wind and solar resources” in order to support wind and solar. Why would they need wind and solar if such a resource exists?

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