According to a review of a book by Kings College Professor Daniel Susskind, President Trump is the harbinger of a new age of superstition and prejudice, which threatens to derail science driven economic growth.
Long-term growth is more vulnerable than it looks
A new book argues the belief that economies should always expand is relatively new, and threats to the future of growth are as large now as any time in the post-Industrial Revolution era.
Guy Debelle Former Central Banker
May 23, 2024 – 5.00am…
We have taken economic growth for granted for much of the past century. When the economy isn’t growing it dominates the news cycle, because those periods of decline have very much been the exception, not the rule. Even the slightest prospect of a recession can generate reams of tomorrow’s fish and chip wrappers.
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Daniel Susskind provides a timely and thought-provoking book on the history of economic growth in Growth: A Reckoning. Timely, because a number of the critical factors that Susskind argues underpin growth are currently under threat. This is most apparent in the US in the form of Donald Trump, where science is being supplanted by superstition, reason by assertion, experience by prejudice.
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This bears on the Future Made in Australia debate. The government can provide the policy framework to support the market in taking advantage of Australia’s comparative advantage. The market will not always provide the right price signals. The market will not embody all the things that society cares about, though it can be shaped that way.
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Read more: https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/long-term-growth-is-more-vulnerable-than-it-looks-20240506-p5fp5a
The “Future Made in Australia debate” is a reference to the pushback against an absurd far left attempt to kickstart Aussie manufacturing, without addressing any of the fundamental factors which led to the original decline, such as Australia’s expensive and increasingly unreliable energy.
My question – what if the climate crisis is pseudoscience, like the many great pseudoscience movements which came before it, and the rise of Donald Trump is a desperate attempt to restore an age of evidence based decision making, before the rise of climate superstition plunges us into a new dark age?
Obviously this is pretty much the opposite position to that expressed by Guy Debelle, who wrote the article above, and I assume Daniel Susskind have taken. SO how do we tell who is right?
Weight of numbers is no defence against the suggestion the climate crisis is superstition – pseudoscience movements don’t rise to prominence because they lack support. When Einstein was told about the book “100 authors against Einstein”, Einstein is reported to have replied “If I were wrong, then one would have been enough!”.
The real tell of a pseudoscience is the inability of the pseudoscience to make worthwhile predictions, and the desperation of advocates to excuse away its failures.
Any examination of climate predictions reveals a dismal track record of failure. WUWT has accumulated 12 pages of failed or failing climate predictions, such as a prediction made before the US senate in 1986 by the Grandaddy of the global warming scare, James Hansen, that by now we would have experienced 3-4C of global warming.
As for the desperation to excuse away failures, we see that every day, as politicians pour billions into failed green energy policies which are designed to address a non problem, or the way climate modellers urge we accept their predictions as a source of truth, despite the decades long failure of climate models to accurately predict future climate trends.
This failure is easy to demonstrate – the diagram at the top of this page, which shows the divergence between reported confidence levels and climate model predictive failure, was created by former NASA scientist Dr. Roy Spencer.
But I doubt professor Daniel Susskind or former merchant banker Guy Debelle will be moved by any of the arguments I just presented. If I am right, they are deep in the grip of pseudoscientific superstition, a superstition which ironically convinces them that they are actually the champions of reason, and are therefore all but impervious to arguments based on logic and reason which contradict their prejudices.
Of course, in our world it doesn’t matter what the Daniel Susskind and Guy Debelles of the world believe.
What matters is what voters believe. One of the great strengths of the US Republic and other nations where people get to vote for their leaders is protection from elitist groupthink. We don’t have to accept the prejudices of people who call themselves experts, we can make up our own minds who we believe.
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In brief, yet more projection by kitsch Marxists.
I might make 1 alteration
We don’t have to accept the prejudices of people who call themselves experts, we can make up our own minds who we
believetrust.From failed predictions to climategate, by their very actions the great climate prognosticators, Michael Mann, James Cook, Thomas Karl, etc. have proven themselves to be unworthy of trust let alone belief.
Every failed prediction since 1986 is but another signpost along a great path to societal destruction so long as these snake oil salesmen are allowed to proffer their opinions of the vaunted Climate Model Oracles and the parroting of their pet media yes men.
In order to save the next generation, it needs to be aborted.
You mean John Cook? …. professional propagandist. James Cook had a pretty impressive career.
Not saying it’s wrong, but the article certainly does not support the attention grabbing headline. So, what specifically shows that Trump is a prophet of superstition and prejudice?
All the condemnation of Trump never seems to specify which of his policies is going to wreak poverty, war, pestilence, cannibalism, etc on the world at large.
My take on what upsets the Trump haters is that he is unashamedly, unapologetically focused on the interests of the USA and its citizens.
And he’s dead against the taxpayers of the USA continuing to prop up all the woke do-gooder NGOs all around the world.
The advocates are the ones who intend destruction of industrial society, and claim Trump will do the same by blocking their efforts. See, in their mind, society is doomed, and their way will achieve their goal faster.
Greg Gutfeld got serious, for a change, on his own and another show yesterday and/or the day before, and gave an excellent summary as to why Trump was massacring Biden in the polls – he talked about all the concepts of the phony-leftists …. racism, transism, gender crapola, vague immigration issues, the usual guff. Meanwhile, Trump was speaking (in the Bronx) about the price of bacon and hugging black rap stars (the racist). It’s on YouTube, but the climate crackpots on here arguing as if it’s a censored CNN or Guardian thread won’t watch it.
On that note, I have some ancient primary email accounts on America Online (aol – it actually works better than stoooopid Outlook), so I catch all their headlines. They used to delete everything I wrote, but now they wouldn’t even censor this. No idea what happened – maybe they’re looking at CNN announcing their worst prime time viewing numbers since 1991.
Absolutely true.
But Daniel Susskind and Guy Debelle fail to recognize that it’s the “settled science” acolytes (like them) who are perpetrating the mis/disinformation that a compromised mainstream media cabal wallows in.
A time-honored Communist trick: Accuse your opponent of what you are doing.
Exactly.
It’s like Joe Biden claiming he is trying to save Democracy when what he really means is he is trying to save political power for the Democrat Party. Biden is the threat to Democracy, not Trump. Biden is the one, corruptly and unconstituionally using the power of the State to attack his political opponents, not Trump.
Biden, and the Democrats are the danger to our freedoms, not Trump.
I’m hesitant to accuse him or any climate believer of being a fraud.
When I originally read the climategate archive I expected to find examples of climate scientists laughing about how they were deceiving the public. Instead what I saw were a bunch of fools who were so caught up in their noble cause they broke the rules to try to block any attempt to deflect the narrative from their quest to save the world.
My point is, people can be true believers about the most absurd things. It only looks like superstition and implausible fallacy when you are looking in from the outside.
They may have fooled themselves, but still they lied.
Eric, they didn’t have to say that directly but they certainly implied strongly that maintaining their own deliberately misinformed opinions was the only way to keep a grasp on power and thus the availability of research funding. This entire thing is about money, they just underestimated the greed of the own for money and self-interested ‘elitista’ for the lure of power. A lot of them came out of the woodwork and jumped on to the bandwagon for the fear of missing out.
Installed, lying, plagiarizing, women and child sniffing Biden is marionette of the Obama/Clinton cabal of old timers, who are systematically screwing the US people to promote whatever agendas that give them the most command/control over governments
The US people are being screwed and lied to as if it is printed, on their way to the slippery slope of increased indebtedness and impoverishment.
The Democrats have a long history of declaring that whenever they lose, that the loss is proof that democracy is broken and only they know how to fix it.
“ Biden is the one, corruptly and unconstituionally using the power of the State to attack his political opponents, not Trump.”
So you have any proof of that Tom? Apart from hat Trump says… but he says a lot of things. He said Biden wanted to assassinate him the other day. That wasn’t true either.
“So you have any proof of that Tom?”
NY vs. Trump!
I rest my case.
NY v Trump is such a bad case I don’t think even a partisan New York jury will convict Trump.
If they do, the case will be thrown out of court on appeal.
Alvin Bragg, the NY District Attorney should be charged with subborning purjury since he put a witness on the stand that he knew was going to lie to the Court. And the witness did lie to the court.
This case is a travesty of justice and is being brought in an effort to interfere in the upcoming presidential election.
Radical Democrats are scum and are a danger to the freedoms of all Americans because they want to take the decisionmaking power away from the American people and put it in their own hands.
That NY judge needs to be disbarred, permanently.
I think so, too. He’s not even hiding his bias.
So Tom I am going to assume you have no proof that Joe Biden had anything to do with the prosecution of Trump, given you have provided none. So why do you keep repeating it?
The swamp Democrats run Biden. The swamp Democrats attempt to prosecute Biben.. It is all the same putrid ooze.
The link is absolutely undeniable except by the most gormless of simpletons.
“So you have any proof of that Tom?”
Everything I see out of Biden is corrupt and criminal.
How about Biden knowing that the Hillary Russian dossier was totally made up, and yet he and Obama stayed silent while the Executive Branch attacked Trump over this false report.
Hillary created the Russian dossier and Obama and Biden used it to attack Trump.
And then there’s the 51 “intellience experts” who came out and declared Hunter Biden’s laptop to be Russian disinformation, when everyone in the Executive Branch knew that waa a lie.
All these prosecutions of Trump are orchestrated by the Biden Whitehouse. The New York prosecutors and the District Attorney in Georgia all spent time at the White House and the DA in New York has a Biden Justice Department official who took a leave of absence, and he is the one prosecuting Trump.
The radical Democrats are trashing the U.S. Constituion in an effort to grant themselves unlimited power in the United States.
Convinced? Of course not. You are a True Believer and you have a very bad case of TDS. All leftists have a very bad case of TDS. It poisons their thought processes.
“All these prosecutions of Trump are orchestrated by the Biden Whitehouse. “
There you go again. I’ll ask again….Do you have any proof that Biden is involved in the prosecution of Trump? It is a reasonable request given you keep saying it. Or do you not require proof… just faith? You know what that means Tom….
Are you going to claim Biden didn’t know that the Russia dossier was a Hillary Clinton setup? It was mentioned in the Daily Brief the president gets, and the vice president gets it, too.
So if you know that the Executive Branch is committing a crime by prosecuting Trump over a false Russian dossier, then that makes you complicit in the crime.
I can’t prove Biden directed the persecution but he is implicated as a co-conspiritor,since he was well aware of the truth that Trump was an innocent man, and a person would have to be pretty stupid to think the Executive Branch/DOJ was attacking a presidential candidate and it wasn’t directed from the top.
When Trump gets back in office, we’ll get a lot more details. Rumor has it that one reason Biden was so eager to invade Trump’s house to get classified information he had, was that some of the classified information had to do with the Obama-Biden administration’s role in subverting the U.S. Constitution by attacking its political enemies.
Yes, if Trump gets in and Republicans get a sufficient number of themselves elected to Congress, then the truth is going to come out on a whole lot of things that the Democrats have been up to since Obama got elected.
Interesting times.
Those radical Democrats better cheat good, otherwise they are going to be exposed for the criminals they really are.
“Are you going to claim Biden didn’t know that the Russia dossier was a Hillary Clinton setup? “
I have no idea. But Tom are you claiming that Trump goes around checking all the stories on Biden are true then denounces them? I don’t think so. Trump floats more disinformation than any other candidate and we saw another example this week with the “Biden is trying to assassinate me” lies.
“So if you know that the Executive Branch is committing a crime by prosecuting Trump over a false Russian dossier, then that makes you complicit in the crime.”
Really? Well then Trump is guilty then because Joe Biden was falsely accused of unlawful behaviour with regard to his sons business. The republican investigation found nothing. So using your rules, you need to prosecute Trump for that.
“I can’t prove Biden directed the persecution but he is implicated as a co-conspiritor, since he was well aware of the truth that Trump was an innocent man”
Umm the cases are still going on. I have followed the NY closely. I think Trump is definitely guilty of what he has been charged, but I think 1 of the 12 will not be brave enough to convict so he will get off. Biden has been very careful not to comment on any of this so given you have no evidence, I think he is safe.
“Yes, if Trump gets in and Republicans get a sufficient number of themselves elected to Congress, then the truth is going to come out on a whole lot of things that the Democrats have been up to since Obama got elected.”
This makes no sense. But Trump got 4 years after the Obama presidency and found/announced nothing…..
“Those radical Democrats better cheat good, otherwise they are going to be exposed for the criminals they really are.”
What did the guy that Trump put in charge of the election say. That’s right. The 2020 elections were absolutely secure. that’s good enough for me.
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/chris-krebs-says-election-systems-were-absolutely-secure-in-2020/
I’m at a loss to understand how, late at night, after the Republican invigilators were excused from the ballot counting stations, loads and loads of new ballots were trucked in, and, lo and behold, all or most of those ballots were for Biden? What’s more, in some of those electorates there were more ballots cast than there were registered voters. Doesn’t this prickle your scepticism just a little bit?
His HAET for Trump trumps all rational thought processes.
It’s true I find him a repulsive, criminal, lying, cheating, bully… Other than that he’s ok.
It’s a BS story. Made up. Sorry…. it was investigated and found to be nonsense. Shall I post you a link?
This is why you are a kook—the insane prosecutors refuse to even state which law DJT is supposed to have broken, and have throw him into this clown show of a trial. The only “facts” that came out of the prosecutions case is that Cohen embezzled cash while telling lie after lie.
“This is why you are a kook—the insane prosecutors refuse to even state which law DJT is supposed to have broken,”
False. What garbage…..Shall I link you to the charges he faces. No I can’t be bothered. Google it.
Now the usual marxist tactic — bald-faced lies.
Here is what a real American legal scholar thinks, in stark contrast to a loony marxist in New Zealand:
https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2024/05/21/dershowitz-on-fire-legal-scholar-attends-trump-trial-demolishes-judge-merchans-prejudicial-conduct-n2174449
You really are the king of clowns. Dershowitz is nothing more than a Trump stooge. He has no credibility anymore. Go back to your racist Hateway Repugnant website. Oh wait…. it’s failed as well hasn’t it.
Yes its true, you are a marxist kook.
Embrace your identity!
PS Dershowitz is a Democrat who voted for Joey Bribe-Me.
Vote Joe, not the pyscho…….
You low-brow ethics are showing again, get a room.
“I think Trump is definitely guilty of what he has been charged,”
What crime is Trump charged with, Simon? Trump doesn’t know because the prosecutors and the judge won’t tell anyone, and neither do you. But you find him guilty anyway.
How would you like to be prosecuted for an undefined crime? Would you think that was fair?
It’s not fair, and it’s not legal, but the Democrats are doing it anyway. It’s a Kangaroo Court. A Show Trial orchestrated by the Biden Whitehouse and New York Democrats.
“What crime is Trump charged with, Simon? Trump doesn’t know because the prosecutors and the judge won’t tell anyone,”
This is a such silly concept. Here are the charges. I mean, come on. It has been in the news for months/years. It’s true there are a large number of charges. But here is an excellent summery.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61084161
Biden is the leader of the Democratic Party. Trump is being phony-prosecuted by members of the Democratic Party. The buck stops with him, the fact that he’s in serious mental decline notwithstanding.
Now it’s your turn Simon and let me use your own language:
Do you have any proof that man-made CO2 is involved in any change in any global climate parameter? It is a reasonable request given you keep saying it. Or do you not require proof… just faith? You know what that means Simon….
“Biden is the leader of the Democratic Party. Trump is being phony-prosecuted by members of the Democratic Party. “
Wrong. Trump is being prosecuted by the justice departments. and some of the people who brought the allegations are republicans. Rafensburger for a start.
“The buck stops with him, the fact that he’s in serious mental decline notwithstanding.”
Well come on… which is it? Is he a demented fool who couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery, or a clever mastermind bringing down his political foes in a way that is so brilliant, that there is no evidence?
“Do you have any proof that man-made CO2 is involved in any change in any global climate parameter?”
Yes…. but what has that got to do with Biden or Trump? But so I can help you. This is a very easy to read explanation of why scientists are very sure the planet is warming and that most of the warming is caused by the burning of fossil fuels, from one of the most respected scientific organisations on the planet. Enjoy.
https://royalsociety.org/news-resources/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/basics-of-climate-change/
Democrat Justice Departments and Democrat Judges. Raffensperger was a witness. I don’t know if he will have to testify. That case is going down the swirler too fast, with the democrat DA taking funding from other programs, giving it to the democrat prosecutor, and then going away on dirty weekends with him. Meanwhile also visiting the White House, to talk about the weather no doubt, in your world of make believe.
Your “clever mastermind bringing down his political foes” paragraph is a particularly lame strawman, but I’ll play. He is a demented fool, but he’s still managed to start one war, and try to play on both sides in another one. The fact that he’s demented (literally btw, not just in a Boris Johnson metaphorical way) doesn’t mean he can’t be dangerous.
And yes, I expected a link which will have no proof in it, thereby showing that you want to evade the meaning of the word “proof’ when it comes back to bite you in the a$$.
Step back Simon, look in a mirror – you believe that the US government narrative is the truth. I know you don’t, but why do you pretend that you do? It’s psychiatric man.
EDITED: To fix a typo and to append a link to a searchable pdf of the Fulton County “case”:
https://statesuniteddemocracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/3.18.24_Fulton-County-Georgia-charges-against-Trump-and-18-others-for-2020-presidential-election-interference-explained.pdf
So you think the link to the Royal Societies site had no evidence in it? Really? Maybe I can help you…. what part didn’t you get?
I didn’t read it. I also won’t read your helping me with evidence. You started using the word “proof”. I just used it to prove your hypocritical failure to be able to use the word “proof” in the same context when it applies to YOU.
Do you seriously think that no one noticed that you changed the word “proof” to “evidence”. This isn’t a Guardian comments section where you and your phony-leftist mates yuk it up in your phony-left echo chamber, where they censor comments like this.
Are you going to apologize to Tom Abbott and tell him you were really asking for “evidence”? Thought not.
…. and by the way, I’m still waiting for “proof” that man-made CO2 has had any measurable global effect on any climate parameter. I won’t hold my breath. If I knew of any, I’d even help your sorry pwned a$$ out here, but I don’t.
“I didn’t read it. “
So you ask for proof then ignore it…. Fine. Remain ignorant. Your choice. This is why the phrase “climate science denier” is the only accurate term to describe people (being kind) like you. Bye….
Awwww diddums. Taking yer ball home. You gonna tell mummy on me?
Just post the proof child.
So you sign off, still not being able to point to any actual evidence.
All you have is a load of propaganda garbage.. not science.
The fact that you can’t even tell the difference shows what a mindless little muppet you really are.!
That Georgia case is an abomination—lawyers were indicted for writing briefs for their clients. And Slimon thinks this is ethical.
When they drink the Koolaide it makes them crazy. It makes them see thngs that are not there. It makes them believe thing that are not true. It divorces them from reality.
Absolutely correct, and the old marxist axe is still used: The ends justify any means.
There is no scientific evidence in that propaganda gibberish.
No, you cannot help even yourself find any….. because there isn’t any.
Well, since HE was asking for proof, I asked him for proof. Don’t be letting him off the hook now, with his lame change of the word “proof” to “evidence”. Yeah, even though yes, I do know there’s no actual scientific evidence (ergo, or proof) in whatever the gobsh!te appeal to authority he produced. He was hoisted by his own petard.
The irony is that if any global climate parameter does rise out of the natural climate change, background noise and associated error bars, this site will likely be among the first, if not THE first to acknowledge and discuss it.
He is a demented fool whose brewery piss up is organised and managed by others. C’mon, the man can’t even find a lectern right in front of himself without the magic voice in his ear telling him to pull up.
https://youtu.be/OKbqBdMF9Tg?si=2bnAvgxs1qBa2JBb
https://youtu.be/7iwfEKISHrs?si=Qz0orZBbD5e91Rwi
He’s so dumb he STILL thinks the Russian Colluuuuusion Hoax was truth.
There is not one single iota of actual evidence in that link.
It is purely just propaganda mantra garbage.
If you really think it is there, then be more precise.. show us exactly where the evidence is.
That’s good enough for Simon.
Says the clown who quotes the Gateway Repugnant. A racist conspiracy theory rag sheet.
I actually did read it for a laugh. I was going to enjoy some further time playing whack-a-libtard but, hey ho, I’ll probably go to the gym and the lab today, do some real carbon chemistry on a Sunday.
This one I loved. What are they the Royal Society of again – Scientific Fraud?:
Many other impacts associated with the warming trend have become evident in recent years. Arctic summer sea ice cover has shrunk dramatically.
“I actually did read it for a laugh.”
So you think the Royal Society, one of the most highly respected and prestigious science organisations on the planet are a laugh? When I read the garbage you write…. it all makes sense.
Simon, since the Royal Society wrote this rubbish: “absorb heat energy and emit it in all directions (including downwards)”, they are obviously no longer a “highly respected and prestigious science organisation”. I will stipulate that they used to be, though.
What success can be attributed to the Paris Agreement?
The delegates all had a nice vacation?
And the first class hotels and restaurants in Paris made out like bandits
Nothing I can think of.
He knows nothing about science. Didn’t need to read past the biography.
“He knows nothing about science.”
That also applies to Trump
His background was property hustling
Why is Trumps ignorance of Science a problem? Climate “Science” is Marxist infiltration with a “sciencey” veneer and has absolutely NOTHING in common with real Science.
Trump has spent his entire life in New York real estate, and is therefore very astute in detecting scams and frauds.
From everthing I’ve heard he was good at attempting scams and frauds.
I don’t get how people think a rich kid that bankrupted his businesses is somehow on the side of the average american. And he seems to financially ruin the republican party too.
https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240311050842
But what would I know cause I’m from another country.
You were reading Democratic Party spin. Each development project was a separate corporation, so investors were involved in just that particular project. A few of the projects were failures, mostly in Atlantic City.
Deceptions as to the business structure were deliberate, intended for people who never read past the headlines.
And Trump businesses were not the only ones having financial problems at that time. The local economy was bad for a lot of people.
“But what would I know.”
You “know” absolutely NOTHING.
You are a constant victim of far-left lies and propaganda.
That is your choice, rather than learning to think rationally… or at all. !
Stop listening to the Fake News.
I spoke to Trump’s science advisor Dr Will Happer last September when he visited Brisbane, asked him what it was like working with Trump.
Will said Trump was very switched on, that he got everything, understood all his explanations.
Will Happer is the physics genius who invented laser guide stars, he predicted the conditions required to create an entirely new artificial atmospheric phenomenon just from his deep knowledge of atmospheric physics. If someone like that says Trump is switched on, then Trump is switched on.
Dr. Happer says Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) is a hoax.
He would know.
Trump calls it the “Green New Scam”.
I think they are on the same page.
Just think, in January, Trump will withdraw the United States from the Paris Climate Accord for the second time. I can hear the doom and gloom from the radical Left/Alarmists now
“Just think, in January, Trump will withdraw the United States from the Paris Climate Accord for the second time.”
Almost all nations have effectively withdrawn from the Paris Accord due to not compliance!
A total scam.
It will still be enjoyable when Trump pulls the plug for the second time.
“understood all his expanations” speaks well for Trump but also for Happer’s ability to communicate clearly in “non-scientific” terms.
You don’t have to have a science degree in order to do or even understand science.
You don’t need one to do surgery too. But you’d rather like your surgeon to have one.
The Luser would let a witch-doctor operate on it, if the climate scammers told them to..
Mind you, brain surgery would be impossible without a microscope.
Brain surgery is done with microscopes. As always your attempts of being funny or witty fail. Stick to what you know: vacuous remarks and insults.
Poor Luser.. brain surgery on you would be impossible.
They would never find it. !
Stick to what you know.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !
The chief executive does not have to be and cannot be an expert in all fields. Being surrounded by experts together and abiliity to critically evaluate input goes a long way.
An economy has to expand if population is expanding. Otherwise the country is slipping toward recession.
And even in in a stable population, if the economy is not expanding, then children will never exceed their parents’ standard of living (on average).
I’m doing OK. Better than my parents, who came to the US as children whose parents had zero in their pockets and did fine. I want my daughter to do even better.
Might not be best place for this, but this will help you realize why lake Mead seems to be low. all the time and all the spin about it. Story tip
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iWFGATBYefY
Problems with lake Powell dam. Did not know this before…
Boy, they sure don’t like Trump—“harbinger of superstition and prejudice”.
He did cancel Paris because it is a joke. He did say ‘drill, baby, drill’ because energy independence is critical to US national security. He did not jump on the ‘science is settled’ bandwagon because climate science plainly isn’t.
It’s almost as if name calling is all they got left. Huchul yesterday called the big Bronx crowd at Trump’s rally ‘clowns’. That will work about as well as Clinton calling Trump supporters ‘a basket of deplorables’.
The 2020 election was stolen. There are many indicia—bellweather counties, enthusiasm, swing state specifics. The solution in 2024 is to make the vote too big to rig. Should not be hard given Biden’s lousy performance.
Many illegal changes were made to voting procedures. The RNC, the Trump campaign and the various state Republican parties failed to properly challenge the changes before the election. Once voters cast their ballots, no judge was willing to throw out the votes.
BTW, What was the number of votes in Georgia cast by people who no longer lived at their registered address? Was it 42,000, approximately? This is one reason no other industrialized nation allows vote-by-mail. It’s just an invitation to fraud. And regardless of actual fraud, the potential for easy fraud undermines faith in our elections.
“Many illegal changes were made to voting procedures. The RNC, the Trump campaign and the various state Republican parties failed to properly challenge the changes before the election.”
I think they are doing a better job of it this time around. Republicans have filed a lot of lawsuits and won a lot of lawsuits.
Trump said Biden is so bad that he, Trump, might win all 50 States! After seeing the Bronx rally, Trump might be on to something.
The Democrats must be shocked.
I won’t vote for either- but I think Biden will win.
Same. But I would change that to “win”. Much like last time.
What’s not to like about Trump?
Are you willing to gamble your freedom over a guy’s personality? If the guy has the right policies for the nation, what does it matter about his personality?
I happen to like Trump’s personality. He does say a few things that make me cringe, mainly because he gives ammunition to the radical Left to use against him, but nothing even close to causing me to not vote for him, especially when his opponent, Joe Biden, wants to cancel my vote now and in the future like he did in 2020. Biden wants to cancel your vote in the future, too. You should do everything you can to prevent that, i.e, voting for the guy that doesn’t want to cancel your vote now or ever.
“If the guy has the right policies for the nation, what does it matter about his personality?”
He says he will suspend the constitution. Are you not worried about that?
“Joe Biden, wants to cancel my vote now and in the future like he did in 2020. Biden wants to cancel your vote in the future, too. “
Big call Tom, but here’s your chance. When did Biden say he wanted to cancel your vote? From where I am sitting he is the one who celebrates and champions the right of every legal person to vote.
Every action Biden takes is to cancel or make worthless centrist votes.
He is the champion of every ILLEGAL or NON-EXISTENT person to vote.
The Democrats have proven that they are absolutely against any sort of voting integrity.
He also, like AOC, champions the right to vote for every illegal person as well. The Democrats are wholesale ruining the country.
Selling Farmland to foreign nationals
Selling land adjacent to military bases to enemy nations.
Allowing people from almost every country…
…Ethiopia
…Pakistan
…India
…Sudan
…China (22,000 in last 5 months is practically an invading 5th column army)
…Cuba
…Venezuela
…Haiti
…Ukraine
to cross our southern border and giving them $5,000 a piece with not but the.promise to appear at some future date ( these are the people to whom the Democrats want to extend the right to vote)
Gavin Newsome is even allowing them to come a shore by boat and run unhindered and undocumented into California.
He has even proposed putting the state into extreme debt to give them healthcare and state aid
“He says he will suspend the constitution. Are you not worried about that?”
Simon, how gullible are you really?
Don’t you know Trump said this as a joke?
Obviously, you don’t. Instead, you beleive the leftwing propaganda put out by the radical Democrats who are intent on demonizing Trump at every turn of phrase.
TDS, Simon. You have it as well as a whole lot of radical Demcorats. This causes you to believe things that are not true.
People believe what they want to believe even if it’s not true. This is your situation.
He only “knows” what the Fake News tells him to know.
Apparently.
“Simon, how gullible are you really?
Don’t you know Trump said this as a joke?”
OK Tom so you seem to be very selective about what you consider real or not. Here are Trumps exact words. Maybe you could explain what part of this was intended as a joke. Perhaps he is kidding about the massive fraud part too….
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”
In my world he is deadly serious here, but I would love to know how you arrived at joking on this? Did people laugh? Maybe he wore a funny hat?
I would say Trump never said those words. Can you prove Trump said such a thing? it doesn’t sound like him to me.
What leftwing rag did you get this from?
“I would say Trump never said those words. Can you prove Trump said such a thing? it doesn’t sound like him to me.”
He did. On truth social. But then he rescinded it….. https://apnews.com/article/social-media-donald-trump-8e6e2f0a092135428c82c0cfa6598444
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/05/trump-terminate-constitution-00072230
https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-rebuked-for-call-to-suspend-constitution-over-election/6862404.html
More lies from the Kiwi “expert” on everything in the USA.
“From where I am sitting he is the one who celebrates and champions the right of every legal person to vote.”
Obviously, he has you fooled.
“If the guy has the right policies for the nation, what does it matter about his personality?”
History is littered with ‘guys’ like that !
In the 1920s Germany was bankrupt & despondent after WW1;
then along came “a guy who had the right policies for that nation at that time”, within a decade Germany was transformed into an efficient, dynamic, prosperous nation, and most of the population was OK with it … then it all went tits up … as all checks & balances had been removed because of his personality.
The rest is history.
Your comparisons are ridiculous.
I didn’t make any comparison, I was illustrating that your original comment was flawed.
So who are you comparing Adolf to??
You made the flawed analogy of Trump to Hitler, and then asserted that Hitlers personality, not policy, was the problem.
That’s the way I read it.
“Republicans have filed a lot of lawsuits and won a lot of lawsuits.”
Hmm not concerning the last election they haven’t.
Concerning fixing the rorts and slimy underhand Democrat tactics… yes they have.
Republicans are filing lawsuits to prevent cheating in the *coming* election of 2024.
We’ll take care of 2020 when Trump gets back in office. We’ll want to know why the Democrats destroyed all the evidence they were using to prosecute the Jan. 6, fiasco. Why would they do that? The only logical reason is they are trying to hide things they don’t want anyone else to know. Why would that be? Well, logic would tell you the things they don’t want known would cause them problems if they were known. So they destroyed evidence that would have incriminated the Democrats.
“We’ll want to know why the Democrats destroyed all the evidence they were using to prosecute the Jan. 6, fiasco. “
Do you have any links to prove this Tom?
How could they possibly destroy what they never had !!
The radical Democrats destroyed exculpartory evidence. Evidence that would have exxonerated the accused.
They wouldn’t have destroyed any evidence that proved the accused were guilty of a crime.
There are no links in the Fake News that you would accept.
Yes, there are links. Google it. Ask how many hours of Jan 6, video the House Democrats destroyed.
Never mind, I did it for you:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jan/23/democrats-jan-6-committee-accused-of-deleting-over/
This was the first hit on the search.
I am very concerned! They got away with the coup d’etat last time, I think they will only be emboldened for the second round of it. There were many examples of vote rigging last time.
The steal trick used in Wisconsin has been nixed by the state Supreme Court. Dane and Milwaukee county election officials declared COVID was a reason to vote as indefinitely confined—meaning no ID. In 2018 there were about 80000 such mail ins. In 2020 it was 250000. Afterwards, the SC said those counties were wrong. So if indefinitely confined goes back to 80000, Trump wins WI in 2024.
A steal trick used in PA was just nixed there. Mail ins were counted even if missing a signature date, or a late date. No longer allowed. Those ballots will be tossed in 2024.
Voter rolls being scrubbed by True the Vote in many states. That will probably turn Georgia around in 2024.
Laura is working hard to prevent cheating at the voting booth. She’s a dynamo!
“It’s almost as if name calling is all they got left.”
Nobody does name calling more than Trump.
Yep. Even got his own wiki page for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump_about_other_people
Don’t cry, simple one !!
No, the Democrats are the namecallers. Trump just responds to their namecalling by calling them names.
If you don’t bad mouth Trump, he won’t bad mouth you. If you do bad mouth Trump, expect to get a response from him.
“If you don’t bad mouth Trump, he won’t bad mouth you.”
I might just alter that so it is true. If you don’t support Trump or run against him, he will call you childish nick names.
That’s true, but I wouldn’t call them childish nicknames, I would call them effective, devastating (for some) nicknames which have the effect Trump wants of diminishing his opponents.
After Trump wins, he makes up with most of these people. Some take it personally.
Trumps nicknames can be devastatingly effective when they highlight a character flaw in the target.
Like “deplorables*”, “clowns”**, and “MAGA-extremists”***….
* Shrillery Clinton
** Kathy “Stoneface” Hokul
*** Creepy China-bought Joe Bribeme the hair-sniffer
Heck, nothing for my governor of Wokeachusetts.
Get her to popoff at Trump and he’ll give her a nice name.
Right, but now she’s too busy saving the planet from carbon pollution, finding homes for “migrants” and locking up the forests from those evil loggers. Oh, and finding jobs for all the LGBT+ folks. They do seem to get priority for all jobs.
“ we can make up our own minds who we believe.” Some of us are able (willing) to do that. Daily, evidence portrays a different ‘mind-set’.
(story tip)
Apropos of this thread, I have performed a unique analysis of our climate, and have developed irrefutable proof that CO2 does not cause any global warming.
Which shows that the “settled science” is WRONG, and that Trump is correct!
See my article “Scientific proof that CO2 does NOT cause global warming”
https://wjarr.com/sites/default/files/WJARR-2024-0884.pdf
Feel free to comment, both pro or con
From this data it is concluded that H2O (water vapor) is responsible for 29.4K of the 33K warming; with CO2 contributing 3.3K; and CH4 and N2O just 0.3K. Climate sensitivity to future increases in CO2 concentration is calculated to be 0.50K
The impact of CO2, H2O, and other greenhouse gases on equilibrium Earth temperatures;
Coe, Fabinski, Wiegleb; International Journal of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences; Volume 5, Number 2 pp29-40 (2021), from the abstract
GeorgeinSanDiego:
What is your point? My analysis proves that all of the warming is due to decreased industrial SO2 aerosol emissions.
Hi Burl, I don’t think the potential impact of withdrawing sulphate aerosols demonstrates CO2 has no impact on global warming. Geologist Professor Ian Plimer has one of the lowest estimates I’ve seen for CO2, 0.1-0.2C / doubling, but 0.1-0.2C isn’t zero.
Have you confirmed your numbers by demonstrating the short term impact on temperature of large volcanic eruptions? A measurement of the magnitude of volcanic modulation of the global temperature might provide a means of supporting your hypothesis that the last few decades of warming was driven by withdrawal of anthropogenic sulphates from the atmosphere.
Eric Worrall::
The reduction in anthropogenic sulfates between 1979 and 2019 was 56 million tons, which had to greatly increase the intensity of the solar radiation striking the Earth’s surface because of the less polluted air. (Recent update to 2022 is 66 million tons).
This INEVITABLE increase in warming from the cleansed air precludes the possibility of any global warming from “greenhouse gasses”. The only reason for claiming that CO2 causes temperatures to rise is the temperature rise since 1980, caused by decreased aerosol pollution.
This decreased SO2 aerosol pollution can be verified by comparing NASA/GMAO SO2 aerosol “Chem Maps” of 1980 and the present.
Regarding your question, I pointed out that the median amount of sulfates from VEI4 eruptions since 1979 was 0.2 million tons, (resulting in about a 0.2 deg C temp increase when they settle out). Any volcanic modulation of the temperature is only temporary, and too small in comparison with the 56+ million tons to have any noticeable climatic effect.
Please use Google to obtain the essay “Climate Change Reexamined” by Joel M. Kauffman. The essay is 26 pages and be can downloaded for free. You don’t have to print out the article.
Shown in Fig. 7 (page 735) is the IR absorption spectrum of a sample of Philadelphia air. Integration of the spectrum determined that 92% of the IR
My WP locked up. I’ll try to finish my comment.
…92% of the IR light was absorbed by water and only 8% by CO2. In 1999 the concentration of CO2 was 367 ppm. This is 0.721 grams of CO2 per cubic meter of air. Since the air sample was city air, it is likely the much higher than that at remote location such as the open ocean.
At 28 deg C and 76% RH, the concentration of water was 29,549 ppm. This 21.7 grams of water per cubic meter of air.
This study shows that water is the major greenhouse gas by far and that CO2 is the minor greenhouse gas. We really don’t have to worry about CO2.
Harold Pierce:
When was this study published?
(I have been unable to find it on Google).
https://ruby.fgcu.edu/courses/twimberley/EnviroPhilo/climate-change-re-examined.pdf
Len Werner:
Thank you for providing the link!
This paper, published in 2007, concluded that “forced limitations on CO2 emissions will not be productive and will cause serious drops in living standards in industrialized countries, if adopted”.
That was 17 years ago, and although a very well researched paper, the recommendations have been totally ignored, which shows how determined the AGW advocates are.
Although many possible reasons for our warming climate were explored, the paper did not consider the simple fact that decreases in industrial SO2 aerosol pollution levels will cause temperatures to rise, because of the cleaner air.
It is unfortunate, but ALL actions that decrease the amount of SO2 aerosols in our atmosphere must be halted as soon as possible, otherwise temperatures will continue rising to those of the MWP, or higher, because of our much higher population and industrial warming inputs. (This may be delayed by occasional temporary SO2 aerosol inputs from volcanic eruptions).
As an actual scientist who broke open rocks for a profession to see what they told us about this planet’s climate history, and generated wealth for a nation by mining, I disagree with Dr. Susskind that there is any climate crisis–now what? I also note from his cv that there is no indication that he has ever generated one penny’s worth of wealth for his or any country, or ever taken any courses in science; I have. How does anyone attain prosperity without the generation of wealth, other than by taking it from others who generated it?
There is truth in what he says, however–in that Trump may indeed be a threat to the foundations of prosperity of those who live off of the hype of climate crisis.
I think geologists like yourself will ultimately save the scientific community from this mess.
Even a cursory glance at Earth’s paleo-climate history should have been enough to sweep away the climate crisis superstition.
I mean, we’re in the middle of the Quaternary glaciation, one of only five great glaciations which have been identified in over two billion years of geological history. How can being in the middle of an ice age possibly qualify as a global warming emergency?
To the dismay of Democracy the Marxists have taken control of the media, made the narrative, and support it.
Just what “return to prosperity” are they talking about?
Sure, I know that under Brandon’s handlers here in the US, prosperity for all has prospered for all by expanding Obama’s “War on Coal” to all energy sources (other than wind and solar). (/sarc)
But, Trump seems to be a “Let the market decide rather the Government decide type of guy”.
PS Might I remind people of the https://wattsupwiththat.com/failed-prediction-timeline/ ?
“Climate Science.” Lot’s of hypothesis based claims. Zero confirming results to support “The Cause”.
So just who is suffering from political bias promoting the superstition that CO2 is evil?
“But, Trump seems to be a “Let the market decide rather the Government decide type of guy”.”
Trump is a free market guy. Trump is also a low tax and regulation guy. Trump is a “drill baby, drill” guy. The combination makes for a booming economy like we had the last time Trump was president.
Trump is also a tarriff guy which really is just a tax on the people because they are the ones who pay it.
They only pay it if they buy cheap Chinese manufactured goods.
Not inexpensive but Cheap…there’s a difference.
Good point.
The simpleton supports products produced using stolen technology and produced by slave labour.
Why are we not surprised. !
The people who pay most are the ones put out of work by these cheap, slave-produced products manufactured using copious amounts of coal fired power.
But what does a simpleton care about that.
Yeah, and it looks like Biden is a tariff guy, too, since he is slapping tariffs on the Chicom EVs..
What do you say about that? It’s ok when Biden does it but not when Trump does it?
A tariff won’t be a tax on American people if they don’t buy a Chicom EV.
Bribe-me kept all of the Trump tariffs in place, including the big one on Chinese photovoltaics.
Yes, he did. Biden reversed just about everything Trump did, but he didn’t reverse the tariffs.
Trump clearly understood the nuances of tariffs, good and bad, not your simplistic interpretation. His tariffs , along with numerous bilateral and trilateral trade deals, forced and dragged both China and Canada, back to the table they swore they would not attend. Trump was winning big, and not just for the US, but for Mexico, India, parts of Asia, and the idea of rational nationalism verses irrational globalism.
Trump saved the American steel industry with his tariffs.
This presupposes that “they”, being the leftist/globalists, want widespread prosperity.
They don’t. The end.
The author Guy Debelle ex-Reserve Bank writes: ‘Australia stands at a critical juncture … increasing the share of renewables in the grid to 82 per cent and becoming a “green energy superpower”‘ 😂.
Germany and the UK are both well down the track to becoming ‘green energy superpowers’ and both are in economic trouble as a consequence either in or close to permanent recession but according to Professor Susskind (King’s College) that is how a ‘green energy superpower’ ought to be.
Amongst the many other ‘luxuries’ and dispensable categories that have developed as a result of economic growth it finances tenured university professorial positions.
I get the impression Australia is very much seen as the showcase which will prove to the world the future is green, that our vast sun drenched deserts make the green energy transition easy.
Of course, anyone who has actually visited the Australian desert as I have would notice it’s a pretty hostile environment, probably the last place you would want to put fragile structures which rely on transparency and clarity to function. No manmade structure placed in the desert remains unscathed for long.
LOL.. even tiny demand of SA was 76% GAS this morning…
And while solar (midday) is now making a 50% contribution towards a very small demand, wind is currently at ZERO%
This Guy is delusional !!
Everything in the natural world progresses by creative destruction. Niches are filled and abandoned organically by simple opportunism. Human endeavor is no different if left to its own devices.
Free markets, free association, and even science are driven by the natural rigors they are subjected to.
At least they should be. When progress is attempted by rent seeking narratives, natural processes, (nature) are broken, leading to inevitable failure.
Socialism, communism, CAGW, transgender fads, all of it, is narrative driven, a false and unnatural stress on the system.
Trump is organic, and a natural emergent phenom in a world that is filled with narratives.
This seems convincing… if by “Trump” he meant to write “Biden”.
Yep, that thought crossed my mind while I was reading the AFR article.
Michael Mann, 1990: We’ll cook the planet if we don’t stop CO2!
Al Gore, 2000: We’ll flood Florida if we don’t stop CO2!
Greta Thunberg, 2015: How dare you keep emitting CO2? Bla, bla, bla!
Donald Trump, 2024: There’s a blizzard in Iowa, and my beach in Florida is great, but America’s going broke on green energy, so why not drill, baby drill?
It would seem that events have rendered this topic moot …
The “Energy Transition” Won’t Happen
Foundational innovation in cloud technology and artificial intelligence will require more energy than ever before—shattering any illusion that we will restrict supplies.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-energy-transition-wont-happen
A lot of people think technology driven high energy demand can be reduced. In fact, it’s just getting started. Robotics and AI will drive all kinds of innovation and new products that make our lives easier. And, it takes massive amounts of energy.
The Fact is…
The AGW/Net-Zero period is very much a period of superstition and prejudice,
It has already derailed science and is already driving down economic growth and future prosperity..
We have taken economic growth for granted for much of the past century.
We’ve taken it for granted for a lot longer than that. It’s not new. It’s an indicator of growing prosperity. Show me any country whose economy has flatlined or is shrinking and I’ll show you a society in decline. Which, apparently, is what leftists want. But not for themselves. They don’t want to give up the trappings of prosperity. They want you to do it. You don’t seem them at cell-phone burnings or giving up their lattes.
Reading what Debelle had to say about what Susskind wrote brought back visions of sitting in my macro economics class. It sent shivers up my spine. The class was pure politics and not my version of politics.
“This bears on the Future Made in Australia debate. The government can provide the policy framework to support the market in taking advantage of Australia’s comparative advantage. The market will not always provide the right price signals. The market will not embody all the things that society cares about, though it can be shaped that way.”
This paragraph shines a light on the contempt and arrogance of the command economy enthusiasts. They think they are so smart the can guide the market so it will provide the right signal. That is not how it works, the market doesn’t make decisions or send signals. A free market is an opportunity for individuals or groups of individuals to try out their ideas. Most ideas fail and some succeed. The wonder of the market is if no one is interested in your idea you go out of business or change. The point is you are free to fail, failure is how we learn, it is unpleasant, painful and costly but there is no better teacher. No punk administrator or bureaucrat can do better than that.
You want Made in Australia then listen up-
Business leaders feel the crunch as Victoria phases out new residential gas connections | Watch (msn.com)
But what would they know compared to the central planners and those on the taxpayer dime?
As Richard Feynman famously said, “If it disagrees with experiment (observation), it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It doesn’t make a difference how beautiful your guess is. It doesn’t make a difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is. If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. That’s all there is to it.”
Earth performs the needed experiment for us daily, as has been done for billions of years.
So, with that sage advice seen against the lead-in graph at the top of the above article, it is absolutely amazing that any debate over the value over climate models and their predictions continues to this day.