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Claim: “Soon it will be unrecognisable”: total climate meltdown cannot be stopped

Essay by Eric Worrall

If only you evil carbon sinners had listened before it was too late. But we can still apparently fix the climate crisis, even though the crisis is inevitable.

‘Soon it will be unrecognisable’: total climate meltdown cannot be stopped, says expert

Blistering heatwaves are just the start. We must accept how bad things are before we can head off global catastrophe, according to a leading UK scientist

Robin McKie
Sun 31 Jul 2022 01.48 AEST

And this is just the beginning, insists McGuire, who is emeritus professor of geophysical and climate hazards at University College London. As he makes clear in his uncompromising depiction of the coming climatic catastrophe, we have – for far too long – ignored explicit warnings that rising carbon emissions are dangerously heating the Earth. Now we are going to pay the price for our complacence in the form of storms, floods, droughts and heatwaves that will easily surpass current extremes.

The crucial point, he argues, is that there is now no chance of us avoiding a perilous, all-pervasive climate breakdown. We have passed the point of no return and can expect a future in which lethal heatwaves and temperatures in excess of 50C (120F) are common in the tropics; where summers at temperate latitudes will invariably be baking hot, and where our oceans are destined to become warm and acidic. “A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did,” McGuire insists.

In this respect, the volcanologist, who was also a member of the UK government’s Natural Hazard Working Group, takes an extreme position. Most other climate experts still maintain we have time left, although not very much, to bring about meaningful reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. A rapid drive to net zero and the halting of global warming is still within our grasp, they say.

Such claims are dismissed by McGuire. “I know a lot of people working in climate science who say one thing in public but a very different thing in private. In confidence, they are all much more scared about the future we face, but they won’t admit that in public. I call this climate appeasement and I believe it only makes things worse. The world needs to know how bad things are going to get before we can hope to start to tackle the crisis.”

As to the reason for the world’s tragically tardy response, McGuire blames a “conspiracy of ignorance, inertia, poor governance, and obfuscation and lies by climate change deniers that has ensured that we have sleepwalked to within less than half a degree of the dangerous 1.5C climate change guardrail. Soon, barring some sort of miracle, we will crash through it.”

“This is a call to arms,” he says. “So if you feel the need to glue yourself to a motorway or blockade an oil refinery, do it. Drive an electric car or, even better, use public transport, walk or cycle. Switch to a green energy tariff; eat less meat. Stop flying; lobby your elected representatives at both local and national level; and use your vote wisely to put in power a government that walks the talk on the climate emergency.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/30/total-climate-meltdown-inevitable-heatwaves-global-catastrophe

I have to admire Bill McGuire’s climate propaganda innovation – he’s solved the problem of upping the ante beyond certain doom.

This was a real challenge for greens, how do you make climate change seem even scarier than “near certain doom, but we have a sliver of hope”? Bills solution is, we’re certainly doomed, but we need to work to avoid that doom, even though doom is inevitable.

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Tom Halla
July 31, 2022 10:08 am

When the economy crashes due to suckups catering to climate zealots, all those pitchforks and torches will cause pollution.
How much pollution did burning the Presidential Mansion in Sri Lanka cause? They went full Green, even to banning artificial fertilizer, and had the inevitable result.

Steve Case
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 31, 2022 10:23 am

Someplace in the “Climate Gate” emails someone wrote that if it all turns out to not be true, they are going to come after us with pitchforks and torches.

powers2be
Reply to  Steve Case
July 31, 2022 10:36 am

That would imply that these bureaucrats who peddle this propaganda actually believed themselves and I find that to be the most skeptical aspect of the East Anglia Uni correspondence. What is the most alarming aspect of the emails is that if you google Climate Gate today Google returns disclaimer articles from factcheck.org, the guardian et.al. “pooh poohing” the emails, disarming them as false evidence of conspiracy in essence defending, with disinformation and out right lies, the Climate Research Unit while damning the whistleblowers who would be held up as heroes if they were exposing some right of center political sins.

Redge
Reply to  powers2be
July 31, 2022 11:21 pm

The BBC are in on the act as well with their mockumentaries “The Hack that Changed the World” & “The Trick”

TheLastDemocrat
Reply to  Redge
August 3, 2022 6:47 pm

BBC has their massive pension money investments managed by Al Gore’s green mamagement investment company, “Generation Investment Mamagement, LLC.”

They are biased.

Redge
Reply to  TheLastDemocrat
August 3, 2022 9:40 pm

Not only are they biased, they have a vested interest

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Steve Case
August 1, 2022 3:42 am

tar and feathers first;-)

ATheoK
Reply to  ozspeaksup
August 1, 2022 7:45 am

We lack feathers.
Will thorns off the rosebushes be all right?

Though, locally escaped now invasive Bradford pears have bred themselves back to their very thorny ancestors.
Long thin branches of them would make a nasty abbatis.
With sharp thorns, 2″ long (50.8 mm), they’re tough to harvest. We could easily harvest and substitute short sections of thorny branches. I can get a bushel of them ready in an hour or quicker.

Spetzer86
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 31, 2022 11:52 am

Guess the Canadians will be the next country to find out, assuming the EU protests don’t go belly-up first.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 1, 2022 6:36 am

They also burned a lot of other minsters’ houses. Good on shame. Shame the president escaped.

Iain Russell
July 31, 2022 10:11 am

I feel the need to defecate on a Stinky Reb, a Road Gluer. With me, McGuire?

Mac
Reply to  Iain Russell
July 31, 2022 10:40 am

I think that motorists and others who come across the folks who have glued themselves to the roadway or objects (paintings etc) should carry a tube of epoxy cement with them and help these rebellious folks really ADHERE to their principles!!

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Mac
July 31, 2022 10:59 am

Success! 😮

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HotScot
Reply to  Old Man Winter
July 31, 2022 1:02 pm

The solution to the XR road blocking lunacy is for climate sceptics to match them one for one.

At every XR demo. sceptics pitch up and employ precisely the same tactics, side by side with the activist’s.

They glue themselves to the road, or just sit there with their counterparts waiting to be removed by the police.

It’s not like they could be treated any differently.

But no one will do it of course, because sceptics are, more often than not, Conservatives, in both politics and practice.

Direct action is a feature of a juvenile mind. The adult version of throwing a strop, lying on the floor, screaming, and flailing feet and hands.

ATheoK
Reply to  HotScot
August 1, 2022 7:51 am

Perhaps the skeptics should glue themselves (their butts) to the XR activists upper backs? Eat lots of beans and cabbage first.

That should encourage the XR activists to get themselves unstuck.

Other than that, call the French police for handling stuck activists.

Call me a skeptic
Reply to  HotScot
August 2, 2022 3:36 pm

Trucker pea bombs tossed at the protestors sounds appropriate.

Call me a skeptic
Reply to  Call me a skeptic
August 2, 2022 3:37 pm

That’s pee bomb

John Bell
Reply to  Old Man Winter
July 31, 2022 2:40 pm

IDEA! position the cars so the exhaust is blowing toward their faces, then rev the engines. BWAH-HA-HA!

Quilter52
Reply to  Old Man Winter
July 31, 2022 8:50 pm

Use them as a speed hump. it will only take one or two incidents where they are actually run over to stop it. But perhaps a trifle drastic. My personal preference is to remove enough of the demonstrators to let the traffic through, then hose the others off constantly them leaving them to dry on the road. Or bring in the French police who are rather more cavalier than UK police in doing the job of removing idiots from the objects they have glued themselves to.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Mac
August 1, 2022 3:44 am

hard as nails REALLY stick to skin as I found out the hard way..took days to chew/ peel it off fingers after deciding to use hands to apply it;-/

ATheoK
Reply to  Mac
August 1, 2022 7:50 am

UV activated glues would be better and cure far faster under sunlight.

Gordon A. Dressler
July 31, 2022 10:14 am

Certainly well before Bill McGuire—emeritus professor of geophysical and climate hazards that he is—gave us his warning detailed in the above article, we were warned about the sky falling by one Chicken Little.

Chris Nisbet
July 31, 2022 10:26 am

Sigh. MSM will publish this tripe day after day, but refuse to publish more sane opinions, or actual facts (was there even a single fact given in the prof’s wee rant?) that tell us there is no climate emergency at all.
Cripes, he’s even inciting people to break the law.

Climate believer
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
August 1, 2022 1:01 am

The guy sells doom, it’s all he’s got. Thankfully nobody is listening.

His other books:

A Guide to the End of the World: Everything You Never Wanted to Know and 

Waking the Giant: How a Changing Climate Triggers Earthquakes, Tsunamis and Volcanoes.

Michael in Dublin
July 31, 2022 10:27 am

Climate alarmists make me think of Picasso
and the insightful Calvin and Hobbes cartoon

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Paul Penrose
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
August 1, 2022 9:55 am

Waterson was a genius.

Rud Istvan
July 31, 2022 10:29 am

That is really over the top. Of course, it is in the Guardian. Somehow, I don’t think his anxious plea is going to work. It only exposed the alarmists for the nutters they have become.

Don’t drive, don’t eat meat, don’t fly, glue yourselves to the pavement—to avert a doom that except for some miracle is already certain. Yup. Nutty.

Let’s hope he takes his own advice, switches to a green energy tariff, then goes green tariff broke while freezing in a midwinter cold high weather system when his green windmills don’t work so his green grid goes dark.

Tom Waeghe
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 31, 2022 10:51 am

Don’t use asphalt for pavement as it absorbs sun’s rays and holds the heat, plus we won’t have as much as it’s a byproduct of petroleum.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 31, 2022 10:55 am

He seems to be unclear on the purpose of giving warnings about impending dangers.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Rud Istvan
August 1, 2022 3:47 am

glueing themselves to pv and birdshredders would be good

July 31, 2022 10:30 am

He should read the IPCC 1.5 degree report. It predicts the damage at 1.5 (actually 0.5 from now) and 2.0 degrees C of warming and neither is all that much. And even that is just model driven nonsense.

Pay no attention to the mumbling fool in the corner.

R Taylor
Reply to  David Wojick
July 31, 2022 10:52 am

He’s not mumbling. The Guardian is more like a bullhorn, and too many of its readers are ready to follow the McGuires of this world to New Jonestown.

DaveS
Reply to  R Taylor
August 1, 2022 4:49 am

People actually read the Guardian??

Coeur de Lion
Reply to  David Wojick
July 31, 2022 11:53 am

But we don’t know what the temperature was in 1850.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
July 31, 2022 1:33 pm

Stokes believes that he does, using the magic of data fraud.

Reply to  Coeur de Lion
July 31, 2022 1:54 pm

Might it have been a tad cooler, on average, in Jonestown?
Thanks, R. Taylor!

Auto

Reply to  Coeur de Lion
July 31, 2022 7:07 pm

Whatever it was in 1850,
it was temperature utopia,
and any change in either direction
is a climate emergency.

People living in 1850
thought their climate was too cold.
But what would they know?
They were not climate scientists.
Didn’t have climate computer games.
They didn’t even have computers.

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Alba
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
August 1, 2022 2:29 am

I don’t know about 1850 but Kehinde Andrews, Professor of Black Studies at Birmingham City University, claims to know what the temperature was around that time.
“What is the first act of Europe in the Americas? It is the largest genocide that has ever existed on the planet…I actually don’t understand the science of this, but apparently there were so many people killed, the temperature of the earth actually rose.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wermPu-oG5w&t=2820s (42.20)

hiskorr
Reply to  David Wojick
July 31, 2022 6:43 pm

Think of it this way: The Earth gets energy from the Sun, the surface of which is many thousands of Kelvins, and rejects energy to space, with its temperature around zero Kelvin, At any one time, the surface temperature on the Earth ranges from 230K to 310K! That’s an 80K spread, balanced around the freezing point of water, to which life on Earth is well adapted. And the CACC crowd is in a frenzy that sometime in the future, the temperature somewhere on Earth might increase 0.5 to 1.0K? Rounding error, anyone?

Reply to  David Wojick
July 31, 2022 7:03 pm

Close to +1.5 degrees C. was already reached twice, in April 1998 and in February 2016, during the peak heat month of two unusually large El Nino Pacific Ocean heat releases.
Millions died. It was in all the newspapers.
Didn’t you read about the carnage?
I am thankful to have survived.
Saved by my titanium lined bicycle helmet.

This is real science, Wojick,
not that old fogey stuff we learned in school,
with uncertainty, integrity, error bars
and all that other baloney:

+1.49 degrees C. = no problem
+1.5 degrees C. = climate emergency

This must be true because scientists say so.
And they have bigger computers than we do.
And climate computer games so complex
that no one can understand them.
That’s real science!

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Steve Randle
July 31, 2022 10:43 am

If it’s already too late then stop with the hair on fire screeching, sit back, relax, and adjust to what’s coming as best we can.

 “A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did,” McGuire insists.

Let’s imagine the world that such a child would face if the green zealots had their way. One with no or few internal combustion engines. Furnaces without natural gas. Electricity blackouts and rationing on a daily basis. Sky high prices of everything as the most efficient ways of producing and transporting will be scuttled. And so on and on.

jeffery P
Reply to  Steve Randle
July 31, 2022 11:16 am

“A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did…”

I agree, but not for the reasons McGuire states. The greens are making this a worse world. Big government helps prevent people from improving their lot in life. Decarbonization lowers the future standard of living.

Reply to  Steve Randle
July 31, 2022 2:01 pm

Steve
 “A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did,” McGuire insists.”
Indeed.
If the world is ruled by Poisoner Putin, the delightful Pooh-Bear-look-alike Xi, or their successors [even through the UN], then – most of us will be dead.
Target population is 750-500 million.
Global population – 7,964,389,101
per worldometers.info estimate at about 2100 GMT/31st August.
So 90% dead. Or more …….
Most of the rest helots, or slaves or concubines.
Not the future I desire, sorry.

Auto

Observer
Reply to  auto
August 2, 2022 11:11 am

It’s not Putin who’s pushing Green suicide

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Steve Randle
July 31, 2022 5:08 pm

“A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents”

Yes, poisoned landfills full of discarded, toxic solar panels and EV batteries.

Scott E.
Reply to  Steve Randle
July 31, 2022 9:05 pm

That’s likely to be true and the most tragic thing is that because humans are infinitely adaptable they will consider all that to be completely normal. When us old fogies tell them that when we used to flip a light switch the lights would come on no matter when or that we could buy meat for every meal if we wanted, they will call us wasteful, selfish, arrogant or other names and will shun us. Or send us to the re-education camps.

Frank from NoVA
July 31, 2022 10:45 am

‘As to the reason for the world’s tragically tardy response, McGuire blames a “conspiracy of ignorance, inertia, poor governance, and obfuscation and lies by climate change deniers that has ensured that we have sleepwalked to within less than half a degree of the dangerous 1.5C climate change guardrail. Soon, barring some sort of miracle, we will crash through it.”’

The truth, of course, is that the Alarmists are overwhelmingly favored by academia, governments, corporates, non-profits, etc.:

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2022/07/rigging-war-fossil-fuels-david-horowitz-and-john-perazzo/

Chris Nisbet
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
July 31, 2022 11:54 am

Tragically tardy response, says the prof? Can you imagine what things would be like now if we’d all been a bit less tardy and done what Germany have done to its electricity grid, and what Sri Lanka did to their farming?
We’re seeing signs that other countries are desperately trying to catch up though, (near blackouts in Aus, Netherlands, Canada and Ireland trying to nobble their farming sectors by banning fertiliser use, NZ farming getting hammered by government), so maybe it won’t be too long before we get to see the fruits of our efforts.
Of course, none of it will have the slightest impact on the climate.

Actually, I’d be interested to hear from somebody about how much we’ve ‘invested’ in fixing climate change to date, and how much effect it’s had on the climate so far. We might be able to extrapolate out and get an idea of how much more money we need to ‘invest’ to get the job done.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
July 31, 2022 2:39 pm

People who wouldn’t have a career in academia if they said there was “no problem” might be a little biased…maybe…possibly….?

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July 31, 2022 10:46 am

Bill – let’s party!

James Zott
July 31, 2022 10:47 am

As a scientist and a grandfather who has a granddaughter born in 2020… I think this guy is full of it. I remember the 60s,70s,80s, 90s shady diatribes from nut jobs like him. No thanks I don’t think we are past any tipping point. And think the climate and pollution has gotten better. Of course zpg, peak oil, ice, desert, and water world prediction are drug dreams.

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H B
Reply to  James Zott
July 31, 2022 5:07 pm

The problem is they have the politicians ea.r They are close to getting what they want god help us all

H.R.
July 31, 2022 10:47 am

I started reading WUWT around 2008. I remember a similar “It’s already too late so we must act now!” exhortation from one of the High Priests of The Church of Climadisaterology, though I can’t remember which one.

Anyhow, in comments there were several who pointed out that if we are doomed, why are we wasting time and money fighting CAGW? Why don’t we just use the money and party until the end? That’s a sensible position.

Since then there have been quite a few more of those we-are-doomed-it’s-too-late-now declarations with the usual conclusion that therefore, we must spend and do even more.

Yeah… sure… that makes sense. 🙄

It’s early in comments, so I’ll take a turn and say, “Since we’re already doomed, let’s quit wasting any more money on this Climate Change nonsense and party like it’s 1999!”

Cheers, everybody! The bar is now open.

P.S. Next month somebody else can take a turn when the inevitable “It’s already too late but let’s keep going” article shows up.

RexAlan
Reply to  H.R.
July 31, 2022 3:30 pm

“The bar is now open”

That might soon be a problem for people in Germany, well for the beer drinkers at least and that in Germany means almost everyone.

GERMAN breweries have been told to stop the production of beer amid fears Oktoberfest will be cancelled after Russia cut off gas supplies.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/9232167/breweries-stop-beer-putin-energy-germany-octoberfest/

H.R.
Reply to  RexAlan
July 31, 2022 6:06 pm

How do you say “bummer!” in German?

mikee
Reply to  H.R.
July 31, 2022 9:45 pm

Scheisse !

Harry Passfield
Reply to  RexAlan
August 1, 2022 3:30 am

A lack of beer? You mean German ‘beer’. Thank God we’ve got our English Real Ale. Now, that’s what I call a beer!

Tom in Florida
Reply to  H.R.
July 31, 2022 5:09 pm

Let’s make that 2099!

James Snook
July 31, 2022 10:48 am

I’ve noticed that ‘Climate Breakdown’ is starting to replace Climate Crisis in these rants, but a 1.5C ‘guardrail’ is a new piece of nonsense.

Rolf H Carlsson
July 31, 2022 10:57 am

Does this scaremonger know that the Earth’s surface is covered by ocean to 70 %? A perfect natural cooling system?

Old Man Winter
July 31, 2022 11:02 am

100% Climate Consensus!

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David Kamakaris
Reply to  Old Man Winter
July 31, 2022 1:39 pm

Ewwww! Looks like Hillary Clinton.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Old Man Winter
July 31, 2022 5:04 pm

Now that there is funny!

Gary Pearse
July 31, 2022 11:06 am

“and temperatures in excess of 50C (120F) (will be) are common in the tropics;”

Here’s a a PhD who has been at it for over 50yrs and does not know that there never has, nor never will be a temp like that in the tropics! He is a climate scientist teaching for ½ a century and doesn’t know that. I was in Lagos

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 31, 2022 11:12 am

Lagos in 1965 where it was 30°C. This weeks highs are 28 -30

https://www.accuweather.com/en/ng/lagos/4607/daily-weather-forecast/4607

Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 31, 2022 3:24 pm

50 C = 122 F … BTW

taxed
July 31, 2022 11:08 am

Why is the UK government letting this utter wingnut anywhere near sitting on a panel giving them advice on anything.

H.R.
Reply to  taxed
July 31, 2022 11:54 am

Why, you ask? Because that wingnut is getting paid by that panel to tell the panel what they want to hear.

Then, when things go all Sri Lanka, the panel can say they were advised by a genuine professor expert-type, so don’t blame them. Blame him.

Mr.
July 31, 2022 11:10 am

Now we’re doom deniers.
Tosh.
We’re all bound to meet our doom.
What’s to deny?

Rick C
July 31, 2022 11:22 am

Nobody who lives where the temperature just reached 40C for the first time ever has any business talking about extreme heatwaves. Where I live in Wisconsin most all of our record highs were above 40 C and by far the most were set between July 9 and 15, 1936. We’ve only had two significant heat waves since 2000 (2006 and 2012) and neither lasted more than 2 days.

Alarmists keep claiming that the negative effects of CAGW are now clearly apparent, but I have seen exactly zero hard evidence that this is true. Every claim they make about some weather event being evidence falls to pieces on the most rudimentary examination. Where are the bodies of climate change victims? (People dyeing from cold or heat due to excessive cost of heating or air conditioning as well as eagles, hawks, bats and other casualties of wind turbines count as victims of climate alarmism, not climate change.)

fretslider
Reply to  Rick C
July 31, 2022 11:46 am

2 days is not a heatwave

I blame the BBC etc

Tom Abbott
July 31, 2022 11:36 am

From the article: “”As to the reason for the world’s tragically tardy response, McGuire blames a “conspiracy of ignorance, inertia, poor governance, and obfuscation and lies by climate change deniers that has ensured that we have sleepwalked to within less than half a degree of the dangerous 1.5C climate change guardrail. Soon, barring some sort of miracle, we will crash through it.”

Well, let’s see: According to NASA, the year 2016 was the warmest year in the 21st Century, and the high temperature was said to be 1.2C above NASA’s average. So, temperatures would have to increase 0.3C from the 2016 highpoint, to reach this 1.5C “tipping point”.

But as you can see below, the temperatures have cooled by about 0.6C since the 2016 highpoint, so we are not half a degree from the 1.5C “danger point” we are actually almost 1C from the 1.5C “danger point”. And the cooling may continue.

The author needs to get his facts straight. If he did, he would see there is nothing to worry about concerning the temperatures. The Earth is not overheating, as he claims.

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AndyHce
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 31, 2022 12:30 pm

Heat waves, as with all other weather, are local, not global. Whatever temperature a heat wave is, it is in relation to the location’s average temperature, not in relation to the idea of a planet that has a 15 C average.

Old Man Winter
July 31, 2022 11:42 am

Total Climatista Meltdown™

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fretslider
July 31, 2022 11:43 am

“Soon it will be unrecognisable”: total climate meltdown cannot be stopped”

So take a couple of aspirin and get some climate anxiety counselling…

Bob
July 31, 2022 11:48 am

Surprisingly I agree with this ignorant fool, we surely will achieve the 1.5 degree threshold and nothing will happen, it will be just another day.

Steven Carr
July 31, 2022 11:53 am

Once there is a paper or study on the environmental impact of mass migration from low carbon footprint countries to high carbon footprint countries, I will take these claims more seriously.

Everything must be changed, the climate alarmists say, but mass immigration to the West must not be questioned.

Pflashgordon
Reply to  Steven Carr
July 31, 2022 4:47 pm

Spot on. The biggest impact on increasing emissions is population growth. The open U.S. border is more than offsetting anything that Greens suggest is needed to reduce emissions. Yet Biden and his handlers open the border-crossing floodgates while trying to kill fossil fuels. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

Richard Brown
July 31, 2022 11:55 am

Here in the UK, we have lots of idiots, lunatics, morons, cretins, etc. They are generally in the government, run the BBC or spew ‘climate change’ crap. This bloke is in a category all by himself…..

Nik
July 31, 2022 11:59 am

If a meltdown cannot be stopped, then why destroy economies trying to stop it?

Assuming the claim is true, the best way to deal with a meltdown is by adaptation. Adaptation requires money to develop the technologies that enable adaptation, and destroying economies makes the money dry up.

Gyan1
July 31, 2022 12:24 pm

The brainwashed appear to be easily controlled by shame. Theater of the absurd pseudoscience like McGuire’s could use an equal measure of public shaming to get the deluded out of their closed loop of perception.

how
July 31, 2022 12:29 pm

Climate changes. Been doing it for eons. Plastic is the real manmade menace. Manufactures need to address this problem not the DS crap on climate. Remove CO2 from the atmosphere and plants will be harmed. Less plants means less oxygen and food for us. Don’t be blind to DS crimes against humanity. Learn the truth, don’t be indoctrinated on lies!

MrGrimNasty
July 31, 2022 12:37 pm

I’m not sure if Dad’s Army has global fame, but for everyone in the UK.
https://youtu.be/sxqvwkmTNy8

tgasloli
July 31, 2022 12:41 pm

If “we have past the point of no return” then there is no reason to make any changes because no change can avoid the outcome.

So, hurray, no more need for net zero, renewable mandates & subsidies, or reductions in nitrogen fertilizer use.

Thank you, climate hysterics for setting us free.

Climate believer
July 31, 2022 12:51 pm

“A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did,” McGuire insists.

Global child mortality fell from 19% in 1960 to just below 4% in 2017.

.. blithering idiot.

Carlo, Monte
July 31, 2022 1:26 pm

Another dementia patient?

Peta of Newark
July 31, 2022 1:28 pm

I was fiddling with one of my dataloggers today (Cambridgeshire version) because its getting near the end of the month and tomorrow, if I remember, will be emptying them to see what goodness lurks within.
Just today was a sneak peek to see how The Heatwave affected north Cambridgeshire.

I was a bit disappointed that my ad-hoc Stevenson Screen had been letting the sun shine on my logger.
I’d tried my best, it was inside a white glossy metal plant pot, hung upside down in the lower branches of a large dense conifer tree.
Aw well, I do now have it ‘on record’ that north Cambs reached 49.8°C on the 13th July. Bang on 16:00 hrs too, the hottest part of a BST day.

But being under the tree, I recalled the Talus Garland Effect (see little pic attached) and had a truly mind-blowing realisation – about damp, dew, condensation, Stevenson Screens and the thermometers that may be within

And you know what..
It Blows All Of Climate Change Science clean out of the water.
In all probability there has been NO temperature rise what-so-frigging-ever since, easily, 1850 if not before’
none.
Made even worse by Climate Science having relentlessly adjusted the old data, taken from Max/Min Mercury thermometers, having adjusted those olden readings downwards.

Let me chew it over a bit more and sleep on it
When I can get a clear picture and there isn’t a blinding flaw in it – it is The End
(And I kept telling you all- ‘Deserts Are Cold Places
High temps maybe but otherwise, very very cold
Here comes the proof.)

Watch this space….

see reply below, I forgot the pic

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Peta of Newark
Reply to  Peta of Newark
July 31, 2022 1:30 pm

Talus Garland Effect

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July 31, 2022 1:47 pm

McGuire is a volcanologist.
I have a friend who is a volcanologist [retiring to spend more time with his craft brewing] in the US.
He, my friend, is smart and well-read scientifically, so I suppose [on no evidence] that McGuire is, too.

But McGuire apparently thinks that if the ‘Global Average Temperature’ [Yeah, whatever] rises by a fraction of a degree centigrade – we’re doomed.
there is now no chance of us avoiding a perilous, all-pervasive climate breakdown” from the lead post.
He didn’t do History.
I doubt if he did very much more maths than me – and whether he took it in.
“where our oceans are destined to become warm and acidic” He has no concept of how big the oceans are. None whatever. I had 45 years in shipping – so I have a fair idea.

Panic merchant seeking to secure a pension I suspect.
Trouble is – as a UK taxpayer, I contribute to his pension. [Non-smiley Face!!]

Should we defund all the universities?
Maybe an option, if this cove is an example. Sadly.

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Sweet Old Bob
July 31, 2022 1:52 pm

” the volcanologist …”

well, he is spewing … …

😉

Chris Hanley
July 31, 2022 2:16 pm
Doonman
July 31, 2022 2:29 pm

storms, floods, droughts and heatwaves.

What about Polar bears, ocean pH and rising oceans? That was soooo last century. And when it didn’t happen, we move on to predicting other disasters.

Robber
July 31, 2022 2:32 pm

What hope does the western world have when these professors are teaching the next generation? The sky is falling! Henny Penny, more commonly known in the United States as Chicken Little and sometimes as Chicken Licken, is a European folk tale about a chicken who believes that the world is coming to an end. But there is some sound advice for catastrophists – don’t fly, walk, take a cold shower, switch off your electricity and gas – and stop sending me these useless messages.

John Bell
July 31, 2022 2:38 pm

I would love to follow him around for a week and point out his daily carbon sins.

John Hultquist
July 31, 2022 2:42 pm

1.5°, 2.0°, global catastrophe, 97%, 10 years to save the planet, √-1, Arctic ice free by 2014

The only one of the above that makes sense is √-1.

Harry Passfield
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 1, 2022 3:42 am

Thanks, J. That’s true.

James Schrumpf
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 1, 2022 7:10 am

i makes no sense at all, according to every rule of maths ever taught. It just IS, and its real meaning is to show us we’re fundamentally wrong about something in the universe, because the little impossible so-and-so is useful in real-world calculations.

Alec Rawls
July 31, 2022 2:49 pm

I’ll fix McGuire’s statement for him: “we have – for far too long – ignored explicit warnings that [leftist-communist phony scientists are lying when they pretend that] rising carbon emissions are dangerously heating the Earth.”

John Larson
July 31, 2022 3:10 pm

“I know a lot of people working in climate science who say one thing in public but a very different thing in private. In confidence, they are all much more scared about the future we face, but they won’t admit that in public. I call this climate appeasement and I believe it only makes things worse. “

Just think of all the honest, hardworking people’s money that could be saved by firing all those dishonest “climate appeasers” around the world, “working in climate science”.

Not to mention the additional groomers that could be gainfully employed sexualizing masked kindergarteners, and teaching them to blame people with low melanin levels for not letting the high melanin level people make the world a paradise.

Louis Hunt
July 31, 2022 3:11 pm

“…we have sleepwalked to within less than half a degree of the dangerous 1.5C climate change guardrail”

What happened to the 2C guardrail? I guess I was too busy sleepwalking to notice the change to 1.5C. So what happens when we pass 1.5C and life on Earth goes on as normal? Will they admit they were wrong? Or will they quietly go back to 2C as the real guardrail and claim it was always 2C?

Louis Hunt
July 31, 2022 3:18 pm

The temperature guardians must be in the middle of a real conundrum right now. Do they slow down the warming of the planet? Or do they continue the warming and risk exposing themselves as charlatans when the temperature surpasses 1.5C and the world doesn’t end?

Paul Melzer
July 31, 2022 3:35 pm

If I thought agreeing with extreme views of “it’s too late now” would shut the rear of the climate hysterics up, I would.

Richard M
July 31, 2022 4:16 pm

I like to compare claims against actual data. To see how bad it is getting let’s compare the climate 20 years ago to this year. We’re 6 months in and the monthly average has been 0.11 C above the 30 year mean. So, what was it like in 2002? It was 0.12 C above the same baseline. If this keeps up were goners for sure. By 2042 we might be a massive 0.10 above the baseline.

eye::roll

Paul Stevens
July 31, 2022 4:55 pm

You would think that climate alarmists have learned not to make predictions. At least McGuire seems to have learned enough not to mention a date or timeline beyond “soon.” Of course, he then loses all credibility when he suggests “use your vote wisely to put in power a government that walks the talk on the climate emergency.” HaHaHaHaHa. Which government is that Bill? None of the green ones that have been elected around the world have chosen to “walk the talk” yet. So far it’s all “do as I say, not as I do.” If they were required to walk the talk, they’d soon shut up.

Tom in Florida
July 31, 2022 5:05 pm

At least we now know who Griff’s mentor is.

Ted
July 31, 2022 5:13 pm

At one time middle school geography included mention of climate classification. What percentage of the world‘s land area has actually had changed climate classification? It’s likely 99% of the world hasn’t experienced a changed climate at all in the last 50 years.

Shoki Kaneda
July 31, 2022 5:17 pm

The only “meltdown” that cannot be stopped is that of Climatistas.

Hoyt Clagwell
July 31, 2022 6:00 pm

They get away with this kind of alarmism because the public has such a short memory. Steve Martin was right!

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Walter Sobchak
July 31, 2022 6:07 pm

If you put it that way, there is nothing left for us to do but party like it’s 1999 (Classical Reference)

Tom
July 31, 2022 6:24 pm

50 C in the Tropics?? I guess the geophysical professor hasn’t heard of the 30 C limit there. I checked Hawaii, and it’s been pretty much constant for the last century.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Tom
August 1, 2022 1:41 am

Alice Springs, Longreach and Emerald can get pretty warm.

James Schrumpf
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 1, 2022 7:48 am

But they’re all just south of the Tropic of Capricorn.

Old Cocky
Reply to  James Schrumpf
August 1, 2022 2:30 pm

That’s a fair point, but they’re better known than Winton or Boulia.
How about Marble Bar in WA?

Edward Katz
July 31, 2022 6:25 pm

I’ve heard that the upcoming COP-27 meetings in Egypt in early November will attract as many as 30,000 delegates. Most of these are paid for with tax dollars and almost all will be travelling by jet airliners which are among the worst emitters in the transportation sector. Yet these same delegates will be preaching to the rest of us about the necessity/urgency to cut our CO2 emissions; i.e. “our” emissions but not “theirs”. Do I detect a certain degree of hypocrisy and also an explanation for why most people worldwide have no intention of changing their lifestyles to save the planet.

Paul Redfern
July 31, 2022 8:13 pm

This sounds like doublethink from George Orwell’s 1984. We learned about this in high school.

lee
July 31, 2022 8:17 pm

“So if you feel the need to glue yourself to a motorway or blockade an oil refinery, do it”. Especially on days of 38C or above.

TonyG
Reply to  lee
August 1, 2022 10:00 am

Especially on days of 38C or above.

Hey, if it’s hot enough you can even skip the glue 🙂

CD in Wisconsin
July 31, 2022 8:43 pm

If one reads the first paragraph of the Guardian article, we may find the motivation for McGuire’s
end-of-the-world gloom and doom rhetoric….

“[T]he publication of Bill McGuire’s latest book, Hothouse Earth, could not be more timely. Appearing in the shops this week, it will be perused by sweltering customers who have just endured record high temperatures across the UK and now face the prospect of weeks of drought to add to their discomfort.”

**************

Nothing like improving the health of your own bank account (with sales of your book) by playing on the fears and scientific illiteracy of the public. Money, money, money. I wish there were laws on the books that allowed McGuire to be locked up for what he is doing.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
August 1, 2022 6:23 am

Similarly James Dyke, Associate Professor at Exeter University, had a number of over the top articles in the UK i newspaper earlier this year when he was hyping his forthcoming book “Fire,Storm and Flood: The Violence of Climate Change”

Wonder if he was taught by McGuire at some stage ?

Mike Maguire
July 31, 2022 9:39 pm

The only reason the earth might not be recognizable to some people is that it will be greener than at any time in human history. The ones expecting an increase in extreme drought and a dying, browning planet will be shocked.
However, the UN has been predicting a demise in the planet for 30+ years

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
  PETER JAMES SPIELMANN Associated Press June 29, 1989:

https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

And just the opposite happened.

One would have thought that by now, the fake climate crisis, fake green energy scam would be long over because of being extremely exposed in every way imaginable by authentic science/observations/data. How can something so wrong for so long actually get even more traction?

Maybe this is a new human condition related to advances in technology? I’m serious here.

Maybe the human mind has evolved/or has been taught to no longer be able to perform effective critical thinking like it had for thousands of year?

Maybe people in 2022+, permanently rely on information gatekeepers to tell them what they should be thinking because we have become so dependent for answers about everything based on looking things up on Google or going to echo chambers and other places to listen to the same things repeated over and over instead of figuring it out ourselves?

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69258/#69259

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Redge
July 31, 2022 11:19 pm

Now we are going to pay the price for our complacence in the form of storms, floods, droughts and heatwaves

Does anyone else remember the good old days when the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in the Book of Ezekiel only brought sword, famine, wild beasts and pestilence?

Rusty
August 1, 2022 2:11 am

Has he told the Chinese and Indians?

Alba
August 1, 2022 2:11 am

McGuire:
The crucial point, he argues, is that there is now no chance of us avoiding a perilous, all-pervasive climate breakdown. We have passed the point of no return
The world needs to know how bad things are going to get before we can hope to start to tackle the crisis.
So it is possible to tackle the crisis despite the fact that we have reached the point of no return, Hmmmm.
However, he has strong words to say to Al Gore, etc:  Stop flying

Harry Passfield
August 1, 2022 3:02 am

As McGuire is a scientist I’m sure he can explain, in scientific terms – that can stand up to proof – how the ‘Dangerous 1.5Deg C guardrail’ was ever determined to be the tipping point.

observa
August 1, 2022 5:28 am

You’re a bit late to the dooming prof as you should have been there in July 1989 when we warned by UNEP before they morphed into the IPCC- null | AP News
We got sidetracked by Y2K and nothing we can do now about the dooming so no good banging on about it and depressing the kids for the time they have left. Pull yourself together man.

Gerry, England
August 1, 2022 6:37 am

When McGuire talks of lies he should be given a mirror so he can see who the liar is.

ATheoK
August 1, 2022 7:37 am

So if you feel the need to glue yourself to a motorway or blockade an oil refinery, do it. Drive an electric car or, even better, use public transport, walk or cycle. Switch to a green energy tariff; eat less meat. Stop flying; lobby your elected representatives at both local and national level; and use your vote wisely to put in power a government that walks the talk on the climate emergency.”

None of those alleged solutions will change the climate.

This poor sap must’ve read one of the biased polls that still, despite loaded questions, put climate at the bottom of people’s desire to spend money.

A poll response that pushed McGuire into a psychopathic rant. “if you feel the need to glue yourself to a motorway or blockade an oil refinery, do it.

Let us know what McGuire actually does besides rant? He’d look nasty glued to a crossroad.

Andy Pattullo
August 1, 2022 8:50 am

I agree time is running out for this particular nonsense. You can only cry “wolf” so many times before listeners begging to catch on that there isn’t any wolf, just a bunch of addle brained, money grubbing liars.

Paul Penrose
August 1, 2022 9:51 am

If Bill really believes that a climate disaster is coming and we can no longer stop it, then he should be pushing solutions to survive it. This means increasing energy generation to power all the air conditioning that will be needed, improving water storage and access, and creating more drought resistance crops. Instead he advocates for things that will not help, or will even make us less resilient to the changes he says are coming. He is either being dishonest or is a fool. Either way, nobody should listen to him.

Andrew Pearson
August 1, 2022 5:18 pm

This has nothing to do with science – he’s trying to sell a book1

Andrew Pearson
August 1, 2022 5:24 pm

This has nothing to do with science – he’s tryng to sell a book!

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Andrew Pearson
August 1, 2022 5:27 pm

This has nothing to do with science – he’s trying to sell a book!

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