Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Extinction Rebellion has promised to do all they can to disrupt the supply of gasoline to UK motorists, to create a “tipping point” in which people abandon fossil fuel.
END THE FOSSIL FUEL ECONOMY: Extinction Rebellion releases plan to block UK oil refineries in April
March 09, 2022 by Extinction Rebellion
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#ExtinctionRebellion #EndFossilFilth #RebelforLifeExtinction Rebellion launched plans this morning to block major UK oil refineries in April as part of their Rebellion, beginning on April 9th. Although the exact locations are yet to be made public, the group says it intends to ‘stop the harm at the source’ and create enough disruption to force the UK government to commit to Extinction Rebellion’s immediate demand: to stop the fossil fuel economy.
Laser focused action will target the fossil fuel industry to cause maximum nonviolent disruption and tell the story of the fossil fuelled corruption at the heart of our democracy, while standing in solidarity with all people around the world who are defending their lives, land, wildlife and cultures in the face of the crisis.
Extinction Rebellion will pull together with other movements for change to disrupt the fossil fuel industry enough to create a tipping point moment. The group Just Stop Oil will also be blocking refineries across the UK, with other groups to be confirmed. A spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion said, “We are calling on protest groups, NGOs and individuals to join us and take a stand to stop fossil fuels once and for all. Now is the time, this is the moment. Don’t sit this one out!”
The plans come amid the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and on the heels of last week’s dire IPCC report and , which acknowledges the ‘widespread’ damage that is already happening, and that the limits of adaptation are now being breached.
Tim Crosland of Plan B, said: “Our addiction to fossil fuels must end immediately if there’s to be any hope left of tackling the climate crisis. There can be no denying this anymore. Last week’s devastating IPCC report is just the latest in a series of increasingly desperate warnings from scientists. We know what is happening, we know what needs to be done and we know those in power are failing us.
“The Ukraine conflict and the climate crisis have the same underlying cause: the imperialist pursuit of land and resources for profit, concentrating power in the hands of toxic individuals and corporations. By decarbonising our economies we can take power back from war mongers and change course, averting climate breakdown and collapse. But it must happen now, before governments use the conflict as an excuse to get off Russian oil and gas, only to begin drilling closer to home.”
Clare Farrell, Extinction Rebellion co-founder said: “Oil refineries are symbolic of continued extraction and profit for a small group of very wealthy companies at the expense of everyone else. We burn them, pollute our cities, poison ourselves and our children whilst committing to climate breakdown. It’s no wonder the entire environmental movement is focussing on ending fossil fuels and the death they cause. The writing is on the wall, and we are out of time.
“We face an ongoing cost of living crisis with fossil fuel companies making record breakingly massive profits. We have failed to insulate homes or make progress on energy efficiency here in the UK and experts are expecting an especially difficult winter later this year unless bold effort is made in the name of protecting the vulnerable and the poor. The government’s net zero commitments are being called into question, with some politicians and think tanks calling for a referendum on net zero, claiming that British people “can’t afford” to address climate change. But the truth is the opposite, the UK can afford to change and we can’t afford not to.
“Boris Johnson arguing for a ‘climate change pass’ involving new fossil fuel development sidelines the decades of failure to prevent millions of deaths from pollution and climate breakdown by building in decades more failure and more millions of deaths. We need to decarbonise and to do so as fast as possible.”
This morning, Extinction Rebellion UK sent a letter to the UK Government to state the April plans. The letter says, “Every day the UK government fails to act makes our common future more bleak, our prospects more terrifying. And you know this. You have understood implicitly the path our planet is on since Sir Patrick Vallance, Government Chief Scientific Adviser presented the facts to you on 28 January 2020.”
It concludes: “So, either you do what the entire scientific community and the International Energy Agency is telling us we need to do to save ourselves and stop all fossil fuel investments immediately, or in April we are going to do what you refuse to do. We’re going to stop the UK oil flow and bring the country with us.”
Following the beginning of the refineries blockades, Extinction Rebellion will then ‘flood London’ with people from the 9th April. With a simple, agile, participation design, we plan to be easy to find, easy to join, disruptive and impossible to ignore. We will create the most roadblocks we ever have with a new and impactful action design.
On the heels of the Extinction Rebellion 2022 UK Strategy released in January, arguably XR UK’s most exciting plan of action yet, the Rebellion aims to reignite XR’s original Theory of Change, and mass mobilise towards 3.5% of the population. This will mean a move away from Rebellions involving multiple targeted direct actions, towards focused acts of mass participation to overwhelm the state.
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Read more: https://extinctionrebellion.uk/2022/03/09/end-the-fossil-fuel-economy-extinction-rebellion-releases-plan-to-block-uk-oil-refineries-in-april/
You might think Russia has already delivered enough fossil fuel disruption, but Extinction Rebellion seem keen to finish the job. Fossil fuel deliveries are not that difficult to disrupt, as Russia discovered in the Ukraine. Big tanks of flammable liquid want to burn – and Extinction Rebellion seem ready to supply the metaphorical match.
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Hmm, sounds pretty much like terrorism to me.
I was thinking that. Round them all up and stick them somewhere cold and dark (because, like, there’s no gas for heat or electricity…)
Seems to me that if they have their way everywhere will be cold and dark.
I guess Gitmo is out, mebbe somewhere further South like Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station?
They are always confused.
If the oil refineries operate, it lowers prices and profits but raises income for everyone.
Its like Biden admin claiming oil companies do not want more drilling at $130
but always wait until it hits $40/barrel.
Just like (coal) power plants if they could operate on full capacity and make a profit.
I am gob smacked at how uninformed and intellectually lacking perhaps half of our populace is.
Russian propaganda.
The modern education systems I suspect, “Don’t think, just do what I tell you!”.
Climate Jugend and Green Shirts.
No, it’s not ‘don’t think’, it’s ‘feel’.
JF
Perhaps it’s a little bit of both, don’t think just feel!!! What do they call it when one body/party/organisation wishes to impose its will upon another section of society, & if the other section of society doesn’t wish to be imposed upon, said other section is isolated, dictated to, bullied, perhaps rounded up & sent to large camps for re-education, but if they cannot/won’t be re-educated, they are concentrated all together, next to large furnaces to keep everyone warm as the ice creeps ever closer??? I know it has the word Socialists in it somewhere!!! HAGWE.
Isn’t it easier to not have to think for yourself and have someone else do the thinking for you?
I believe Thomas Edison got it right:
Five percent of the people think; ten percent of the people think they think; and the other eighty-five percent would rather die than think.
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
― George Carlin
Smart man, much missed, probably laughing his ass off at where we’re at now!
To quote the great Tina Turner, “Simply the Best”!!!
No, the majority of Joe Public might not be academic but they’re nowhere near as stupid as those in Extinction Rebellion, many of whom are highly educated middle class. They’re some of the most hated people in the UK because of their total disregard for other people’s lives and livelihoods. It’s partly down to these people’s extreme views that Putin is now able to murder tens of thousands of innocent people.
Extinction Rebellion exists because modern industrialized civilization has developed enough largess to allow failed fringes to unravel.
They represent seamy side of the ragged edges. A suicidal movement. Let them eat cow pies.
Half??? That is being extremely generous. More like 80-90% are downright stupid!
More to the point, this phenomenon is accurately described by Gad Saad in the book ” The Parasitic Mind”. He describes how “idea pathogens” hijack rational thought and in effect are designed to destroy the host – just like real parasites. But this epidemic of idea pathogens is far more deadly than real biological ones if it is not eradicated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEWOI317XtY (Gad Saad | The Death Of Truth And How To Revive It |)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1II4WBdKX0 (Gad Saad: “Bad Ideas Are Destroying the West”)
Thanks D Boss, for the reminder of Gad Saad’s concept- ‘idea pathogens’.
“Bad Ideas Are Destroying the West”
Yes!
Gad Saad’s idea pathogens thesis is another version of the meme concept explored by Richard Dawkins and Susan Blackmore…And later Howard Blooms ‘ The Lucifer Principle ‘ …..To understand Extinction Rebellion and the mythical ‘climate emergency’ that has so hypnotized otherwise rational people [ such as intelligence agencies ] it is worthwhile researching the appeal of mythic archetypes and the seductive traditions of apocalyptic millenarianism with its themes of submission to a vanguard elite [ The ‘ Citizens Assembly ] ,repentance and doomsday …..The chanting XR ‘Red Brigade’ strike me as a reprise of the medieval ‘Flagellant processions ..Right down to the costumes. This would make for an interesting contributing article Anthony & team Read Michael Barkins classic ‘ Disaster and the Millennium’ ..Spiked ran a piece on Extinction Rebellion as a modern secular millenarian cult
Gad Saad does regular sarcastic videos of self flagellation to mock these idiots on the woke bandwagon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSvb5mLGl7E (I Self-Flagellate Therefore I Am – I Apologize for Everything (THE SAAD TRUTH_1376))
He proposes that sarcasm and ridicule are powerful weapons to counter this fast train to hell that is wokism etc. And he does it with wit and skill. He doesn’t get cancelled by using their exact wording and phraseology – but in a mocking way. So they cannot cancel him, but he gets his points across nonetheless!
Leftwing takeover of the school system and newsmedia.
Only half??
mostly non-scientists and/or indoctrinated by climate scientists.
Yep. Time to crack some crusty heads.
It really is time that these idiots were forced to confront the reality of their position. I’m not sure how you would frame the necessary regulation but until they are forcibly banned from using any product which involved the use of oil in its composition or manufacture they will continue to ‘finesse’ their position.
“Going equipped to commit hypocrisy” would look good on a charge sheet! “Being an ***hole” wouldn’t work; it could be used against most of us at one time or another. But there has to be a way!
There may be a tipping point coming. People finally getting fed up with the nonsense coming from these fools and deciding to do something about it.
Dragging them off commuter railcars might seem mild in comparison to what a newly enraged populace might do.
Borrow from Justin Trudeau’s playbook against the truckers but for a good reason, or be like the Moscow cops handling their demonstrations. I don’t like either Trudea or Putin but I sure would like to see the crap kicked out of XR
Their stated aim is to bring down the State and replace it with some form of eco-socialism. This is not activity to petition the government for specific grievances, as was Canada’s truckers’ strike.
Unfortunately, sedition is no longer an offense under UK law. The original penalties were severe – having ears cut off for a first offense, and death for repeat offenders. Even the later punishment of life imprisonment indicates the severity the offense was considered to be until recently.
Government backed, sponsored and supported terrorism, but yes.
George, what prizes do we have for our lucky contestant who correctly connected the dots?
Do those numbskulls know where their food comes from? Without tractors (for planting) and combines (for harvesting grains), they won’t have any food to eat. Do they know that at all?
OK, let’s do send them back to the 17th century and make them live that way, no excuses, no breaks from it. They won’t like it one teensy-weensy bit, especially when it gets cold and there’s no grain available to make their bread (staple of medieval peasant food).
Any bets on how long they’d last?
Don’t forget there was a time quite recently in parts of the UK when young people living in cities genuinely believed that milk came from the supermarket!!! The case for the prosecution rests, sadly!!!
I think Boris Johnson will be justified to enact an emergency powers act. I mean Trudeau did exactly that…
And confiscate all belongings of the “rebels”.
Disrupting the supply of fossil fuels is by definition an act of violence. There is no hiding behind false claims of peaceful protest.
Bug scientist David Suzuki got away with espousing this in Canada.
He visited Australia during the 1980s and warned that climate change was rapidly underway and life as we knew it would end by 2000.
During the 1990s he visited Australia again and was questioned by media about his earlier predictions and he replied that he was pleasantly surprised about how well the parts of Australia he had so far visited were surviving.
Our local doomsayer Tim Flannery (aka Tom Foolery) predicted that rainfall would never again fill dams, the coastline would be swamped by water including Sydney Opera House disappearing under water.
2022 another massive flood weather event, in between times droughts, bushfires and earlier flooding rains.
Isn’t it way past time that these deceivers were widely and publicly exposed?
I think we’re having some success exposing the BS, otherwise they wouldn’t keep trying to censor and silence us.
Interesting comment, I have noticed increasing success from my emails and attachments to various Members of Parliament. I have received thank you comments from time to time, electricity generation for example.
Hey, credit where credit is due, Tim Tim, using one assumes his powers of marsupial fossils, managed to predict that Perth would become a Ghost Metropolis.
I mean anyone actually even seen someone from Perth in the last 18 months?
Anyone managed to visit?
Anyone find it on the home Test Series calendar?
I rest my case. Tim Tim got this one right!
I’m in Perth right now. It’s a hot day with a chance of a thunderstorm. COVID is running wild through the community but other than that we’re all OK. Plenty of water in the dams, too.
Hopefully you follow Fauci’s advice with double mask and the gene therapy shot….it works wonders. Trust the science 😉
We like the hard border from the rest of OZ just a shame it’s coming down and the ES riff-raff can visit again 🙂
What is this Perth you are talking about? Was it a city someplace?
Somewhere on the east coast of Scotland, I believe.
Perth is laboring under a tyrant premier. Perth’s water catchments are doing quite nicely and the South West wheatbelt despite waterlogged soils has just recorded its best grain harvest ..Just ask Nick Stokes
Is it time for a Grand Jury, using the model that lawyer Reiner Fuellmich and financial investigator Viviane Fischer are currently showing the world regarding covid?
WUWT has plenty of people who could provide solid evidence to expose the deception.
Catherine Austin Fitts might consider being the financial investigator. She’s well aware of the Grand Jury model.
https://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2022/03/catherine-austin-fitts-connecting-the-economics-and-science-on-the-vaxx-and-covid-scam-2684264.html
So did failed prophet NASA’s Jeremiah James Hansen
Anarchy.
It’s called terrorism. There are severe penalties. Lock them up.
Is it not also a form of racketeering?
Peaceful protests are not the same as acts of violence even if you disagree with the protesters. Extinction Rebellion are very good at avoiding violence while maximising disruption. And in a free society they have a right to protest.
You don’t know that their intentions are peaceful. They’re talking about the imminent end of the world, and the need to “overwhelm the state”. If Trump supporters talked like this, you’d be calling for them to all be locked up as insurrectionists.
He agrees with their goals, therefore he agrees with their methods.
https://www.netzerowatch.com/boris-johnsons-shale-gas-intervention-welcome-now-he-has-to-finish-the-job/
I don’t care what any group’s beefs are – they have no right to deny the public’s rights to go about its lawful, productive business without physical disruption or blockage from some malcontents.
Take your marching and shouting to a park somewhere ffs.
In a democratic and open society people have a right to protest and that includes disrupting other people. It is the only way that the powerless can organise to make a difference. It worked for the suffergrates along with others.
In 2000 for instance in the UK lorry drivers blockaded oil refineries causing massive disruptions and while the army was called in to ensure supplies the protest was resolved peacefully and without violence. The same thing should be given a chance to happen here.
So how do you feel about someone disrupting the disrupters?
Exercising his/her right to disrupt others by say –
fire-hosing all the XR disrupters?
I’ll disrupt your nose if you get in my way.
In 2000 the threat was real. The threat today is all in your tiny mind Izzy.
The threat to the lorry drivers may have been real, but shutting down other people’s lives in order to make them care about whatever you care about is still wrong.
FU
On the other hand, if XR had accused the refineries of being run by Nazis …
Or by Putin 🙂
The propaganda in this conflict is off the charts.
Putin and the communists have always been experts.
One of the Beefs the lorry/truck drivers had was the rise of duty/tax on fuel. The vast majority of drivers were self-employed often owning their trucks/lorries, whilst they admittedly paid the taxes on the fuel, they were legally entitled to reclaim the VAT & other taxes, including transport businesses, where they could be seen as legitimate running costs of their trade, so many including me, saw the protests as pretty shallow, but as you say it was resolved amicably. However, where the political left are concerned, they always seek to have confrontation & if it gets violent what the hell, always a good excuse for those to join in to loot & pillage if they need a new DVD player or new TV, similar things happened in the last big demonstration took place, against so called globalisation, & free-enterprise in general, when it turned violent, shops were broken into & looted & products & items were stolen openly. There is nothing wrong with genuine peaceful protests, but I will be watching very closely to see the outcome!!!
If you blockade my house, I have a right to remove you, by force if necessary.
If you blockade a factory or refinery, the owner of that factory or refinery has the right to have you removed, by force if necessary.
Just because you view your goals as noble, does not give you the right to destroy the lives of others.
The way the bloodsucking-lawyers run this country (UK), before too long it will be a criminal offence to attempt to defend your home from a burglar breaking into it, & heaven forbid if one tries to defend one’s wife/partner/daughter from sexual assault, the crims will have a fee reign over society, apart from those wealthy/rich/ruling/intellectual elites living securely in their security guarded fenced in luxury mansions, 24/7/52.25!!!
In many parts of the country, lawyers and judges had made rulings that if a homeowner has a means of escape, you are legally required to escape, even if it means abandoning other family members to the criminals.
Many states have added castle doctrine laws to their books that makes it clear that property owners (and apartment dwellers) have a right to protect themselves AND their property from intruders.
Needless to say, the bedwetters are having a fit over the number of criminals who have been killed or injured by people who refused to back down.
Ah, lawyers & judges, in the UK? These are the bastions of law & order in society, except of course when we’re talking about their delightful weekend cottage/mansion in the country, because on several occasions I have known of major alterations undertaken to these cottages & mansion, always requiring Planning Permission. Building Regulations Approval, &/or Listed Buildings Consent. However, these lawyers/judges are often none too keen on following the legal processes when it affects them by official delays, or worse, Approval being denied for genuine reasons, so they have their builder/construction-worker carry out the work discretely behind closed doors or even under wraps, simply because the law shouldn’t apply to them because they are the law, as they see it!!! I regard the legal profession with great suspicion, you may have noticed!!!
Izaak, “in a democratic and open society”, your rights still end where the next person’s rights begin.
In the end, I’ve never understood the concept that pissing people off is supposed to win them over to your side of an argument somehow.
Leftists have never been deep thinkers. For them, it’s all about how they feel about themselves. Demonstrating proves to them how noble they are. The fact that others don’t agree just proves that those who disagree are evil and deserve whatever happens to them.
The ‘suffergrates’ as you hilariously call them were genuine second class citizens who were demanding legal equality- which they were granted. The XR morons are demanding we remove the foundations of our economy and society because they say so. F*** off. Not going to happen, bozo.
Funny Izaak, I don’t remember you commenting AGAINST Trudope’s emergency declaration against the peaceful Freedom Convoy.
Like all true leftists, Izaak determines the worth of your actions based on your goals, not your actions.
So theoretically you’d be happy with someone stopping you from leaving your house because they’re protesting a cause?
After all, people have a right to disrupt other people, don’t they Izaak?
No, you don’t have the right to disrupt other people’s means of survival. Fossil fuels are immediately used to deliver food to the stores, distributing it to people. Wait, the deliveries argument was used by Justin to justify martial state in Canada in 2022? There’s a precedent now, and you CANNOT UNDO IT.
Disruption is now a critical offense justifying state-wide martial law and suspension of democracy. This is by your own progressive playbook.
I was thinking of not driving a car but now I will continue. Extinction Rebellion version of the Streisand Effect.
I can agree with that statement, however, in UK law:
In a free society, we have a right to go about our business. XR is disrupting the rights and freedoms of others and so are acting illegally.
But do we live in a free society when only Extinction Rebellion & Co have the right to protest and disrupt ? Doesn’t Direct Taxation tells you you don’t live in a free society ? Try not to pay them and find out how free you are
Good point
The right to protest does not include the right to disrupt other people’s lives.
It’s not peaceful to disrupt the lawful business of others.
On the wrong side of every argument, Izaak.
They can also have civil actions for damages taken against them which is what I would strongly encourage people impacted to do with hopefully a law firm stating a class action.
I do hope no ambulances are disrupted from attending any emergency that may require a call out, such a disruption could never be seen as peaceful especially where Human lives are at risk!!!
The XR founder has openly stated that he would deliberately block an ambulance with a dying patient inside. That is tantamount to murder. No they are NOT peaceful.
I know nothing of UK law. Do businesses negatively impacted by the planned actions of organized groups have recourse against the organizer? The specificity of the leaders’ planned illegal acts would seem to leave them in jeopardy; they know the harm they will do to individual businesses. This is not the same as an organized protest getting out of hand.
UK law does allow it and you can seek court injunctions. The court will generally to try and strike a balance between public awareness vs damages. The last protestors to be jailed for breaching an injunction was 5 Insulate Britain protestors just last month with 11 others given suspended sentences.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/high-court-britain-justice-lord-royal-courts-of-justice-b2006167.html
There is absolutely nothing peaceful about stopping other people going about their lawful business. If they truly wanted to protest peacefully they would simply march through town centres and hold rallies to convince us they are right. They are planning actions which they know will cause massive suffering to the most vulnerable and possibly even death. They will be guilty of manslaughter at the very least. Also, try telling a lockdown protester that they have a right to protest in a free society.
Reminds me of an old Fred Wedlock line, “Smash violence, kill the warmongers, be here Saturday man, we’re gonna have a peace riot!!!”
The “Talking Folk Club Blues” from the seminal 1971 “The Folker” album..
https://youtu.be/ry6KovkZqo0
What do you think about cider then, & don’t even start to tell me how you rate beer!!!! ;-)) It was a great album, & I had the great privilege to see him live twice!!! HAGWE.
They flew him out to cyprus to perform at the Curium Amphitheatre… f*cking Majestic
We don’t live in a free society. If those in power (not your puppet politicians) know EVERYTHING about you you are NOT free. Extinction Rebellion & Co are the Brown Shirts ( useful idiots ) working for those in power. Follow the yellow brick road
And if they break the law they should pay the price.
JF
Did they avoid violence ?
They always have been more or less violent.
Read the definition of terrorism in sections 1 & 2 of the terrorism act in the U.K. This definitely meets the criteria defined therein.
They have a right to protest but the attached responsibility of not interfering with others use of transport, infrastructure etc and the enjoyment of same (in the legal definition). So far they have been hot on their rights but have breached their responsibilities at every opportunity – this will not last much longer until people take them to task for the breach of their responsibilities. Children and immature idiots know their rights but conveniently forget there are attached responsibilities for every one of those rights which must also be kept in mind.
Saint Justin of Hiding Behind the Sofa has shown us the way- if you inconvenience society in any way, if you stop business from being transacted in the course of a ‘peaceful protest’, then you can have your bank accounts frozen, be fired from your job, have your assets stolen/removed by the state, be imprisoned and every kind of lie told against you. You can even accuse people who are non-violent with being violent terrorists, and still be welcomed by the British PM and the queen. Let’s call it the Trudeau method. We need to deploy the Trudeau method against XR as I’m sure you’d agree, as you probably agree with Trudeau about everything…
Protests are permitted. Disrupting the rights and activities of others is not. Protesters rights don’;t override the rights of others. That should be blatantly obvious.
Disrupting and stopping supplies of a critical commodity is a peaceful protest?
Tell that to Justin Trudeau who invoked martial law exactly for that reason.
In Canada, governments tolerate and encourage terrorist acts by the Left, but persecute peaceful, legal demonstrations by the Center.
When a gang of bribed natives blocked a major rail line in Alberta, the government did nothing. Then some civilians removed the blockade, with no violence. Problem solved!
Since governments and law enforcement are so obviously corrupted, it appears that civilians have to restore order. As long as we are not violent, I believe it is our right to do so.
Demonstrators have the right to demonstrate – but they do not have the right to obstruct legal passage. If someone blocks your passage, and the police let them, it gets more complicated.
I’m getting a bit old and frail for such confrontation – everyone has to choose what works for them.
I choose restraint – nothing more than a kick in the groin followed by a knee in the face. 🙂
After this, once the food trucks stop showing up, ER will have the general population clean them out.
Maybe extinction is the answer?
The idiots don’t even know that their banner is made from polypropylene derived from oil and natural gas.
Its even weirder than that, when challenged about flying to an anti-flying protest, or using petroleum products, they explain they are forced to use fossil fuel products because they are trapped in the system. When the system changes, they will be free.
I think systemic change is code for making the engineers come up with alternatives to fossil fuel. After all, engineers are magicians.
They should ask to borrow the Australian Prime Minister and Cabinet’s magic wand.
It would seem that Imperial College London do a fairly regular series of lunchtime webinars – at 12:00 GMT and nominally an hour long
It got myself into yesterday’s – on the subject of Bioetahnol (sic)
The professor was a quietly spoken chap of foreign extraction.
In the few minutes before Windows Update trashed my viewing by stealing all my internet bandwidth, he categorically stated that he thought quote/unquote “Electric cars are insane”
I thought ‘I like this fellow‘ and from what I could see through all the buffering, he was amazingly realistic in discussing his own topic of turning waste wood and agricultural waste into Biofuel via a process of Ionic Liquid Extraction of glucose that could then be fermented.
Sadly his slides were out of focus and the buffering wrecked his words but he reckoned he could produce fermentable glucose for 14 pence per kilogram.
Compared to the (wholesale) market price of 23 pence per kilo for (sugar cane) sucrose. I suspect Mr Putin has altered those numbers slightly.
It was a shame he didn’t realise that there is no such thing as ‘Bio Waste‘ – it should all be put back into the soils/ground from where it originally grew.
Apart from that, we were witnessing an ‘engineer’ working within an Ivory Tower. It was telling that of however many viewers, only one question was asked – which he trashed comprehensibly.
(About micro-pulverising the bio-waste to extract sugar = negative EROEI)
Back on topic, I really don’t think ER understand the idea/concept of what a Tipping Point actually is – it’s just a buzzword term and they’re parroting it without any further thought
Like the misspelling of Bioethanol on my webinar.
The miss-spell was everywhere, on the email invite, the electronic tickets and even the slides of the professor himself.
Perhaps it was really about Bioetahnol all along and you missed the point. This could be a real breakthrough when we identify what the stuff is! 🤡
? 14P/K vs 23P/?
What are the units?
Well funded by Putin
Or China or Soros.
Oh yes, Puti is the very Devil himself…
“Putin on the fritz.” [Stolen from a true wag on another Thread.]
“After all, engineers are magicians.”
Yes! We can solve all the greens’ problems – with unicorns!
“Systemic change” is code for communism.
Extinction Rebellion explicitly says on their manifesto page “no techno fixes”.
This means that no solution thought by engineers will ever satisfy them.
They are full on communists bent on revolution.
Err, I’ve called this out before, you’re trying to confuse them with facts & reality of life!!!
As well as most of their clothes and shoes.
I think XR should have been sentenced to a few years herding sheep on a remote island long ago.
How about Cape Flannery on Thule Island?
LOL – obviously the location of their secret survivalist global warming ark 🙂
Not bad but Thule is only about 2 square miles – I think we’d like somewhere to put the whole lot of them, so might I suggest South Georgia instead – big enough for them all and presently uninhabited.
I think you would soon find the sheep would be herding XR.
Either that or you will find that the sheep spend all their time facing the XR crowd.
Certainly it would be salutary punishment to make them live by the standards they are protesting for. Re my comment earlier, this idea that they are “trapped” in the system is rubbish. If they get their way there won’t be a system as we/they understand.
There won’t be any flying to conferences; there won’t be any oil-based clothing materials; there won’t be any mass production; there certainly won’t be any superglue for them to stick themselves to whatever they will be planning to protest against next!
Don’t give them ideas; they will hoard superglue.
I like the island idea but don’t see any reason to punish innocent sheep.
Conspiracy to commit blackmail thru economic loss.
Find a prosecutor and file charges.
You are right, BUT western societies are run by sympathizers.
You are talking about criminal charges and they are generally reluctant to get into this area of law. An individual or company can however take civil action and that removes that problem, the issue is the cost so you nee your damages to be high before taking the action.
Where will they park their vehicles?
norway’s co2 is not harmful because their oil industry is nationalized
It looks like a plastic (fossil fuel based) banner in the photo.
Abandon fossil fuels and use what? Not enough renewables by a long shot. If they cause additional problems – and costs – to what people are enduring today, they may very well get a tipping point, just not the one they think. It will involve a lot of broken bones; theirs.
BOLO…
Protonmail? Isn’t a proton a car?
You really want to know who emit too much CO2? Self-righteous people who have nothing more productive to do with their time than this.
Interesting to risk injury or worse if caught for what is a stupid stunt.
No cars, no matter what, even electric.
And if you can’t walk to your work, you die of starvation.
Good luck bringing your dying grandma to hospital in time on a bike.
Criminal scum.
Adding insult to injury.
I imagine there is quite a bit of CO2 being emitted right now in Ukraine because of Putin’s insane ware there. This includes the burning buildings, the military vehicles and equipment, and so forth.
While I understand that that most if not all of the XR people probably have no military background or experience, neither do many Ukrainian civilians who are taking up arms right now the defend their country against the Russians.
I suggest that the XR protesters be given military guns, taught how to use them, and sent off to Ukraine with plenty of ammo to help the Ukrainians fight the Russians. XR can be rest assured that they are doing their part to bring down Ukraine’s CO2 output and thus fight climate change if they help end the war.
I don’t know what happens to a country’s CO2 output when they go to war, but i suggest XR take that up as a research project. Has anybody suggested to XR to protest the war in Ukraine instead? Priorities, priorities.
Let them keep protesting – give them paintball guns with green paint pellets to let those nasty ol’ Russians know what they’re doing is bad for the environment! sarc
the Rebellion aims to reignite XR’s original Theory of Change, and mass mobilise towards 3.5% of the population
3.5% huh?
When they reach that number they will rise up and overthrow the state?
At least the dictators in Canada and New Zealand still pretend they are the DEMOCRATIC representatives of their people. These XR are openly admitting they treat public opinion with contempt and that their stated goal is to force change onto the other 96.5 (or greater) percent.
Scratch a Green and not only will you need to wash your hands afterwards, but you will also find a fascist wanting to tell YOU how to behave.
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That is a quarter of the greens current representation in OZ and everyone ignores them except the MSM because they are their darlings. Like you say who cares about a 3.5% group and I am pretty sure I could get that percentage just by offering a free bbq sizzle if you vote for my party.
Turn the tap on, spray in their direction, and then flick a ciggie butt at them.
Rather they ‘disappear’ forever, than a normal human being with a functioning brain be denied an ambulance, or even me driving to the shop for that matter. Treat them in kind.
I also love the irony of all the warm clothing those banner holders are wearing in the above photo.
Almost as if the temperature that day was BELOW that of human comfort.
XR will disintegrate as Russian funding dries up.
Nah they have China, Soros and rich people who fear backlash.
Extinction Rebellion releases plan to block UK oil refineries in April
Extinction will be theirs, if they succeed in ending the deliveries of goods and services by motor vehicles in the UK, and end the operation of construction equipment to build their fantasy world of all-electric motive power.
They certainly know how to make friends and influence people.
mean while
https://www.netzerowatch.com/boris-johnsons-shale-gas-intervention-welcome-now-he-has-to-finish-the-job/
there you go nut jobs stick that where the sun don’t shine
Perhaps we should arrest them, take their cars away and freeze their bank accounts?
Ah, sorry -we only do that to peaceful protestors who want to have freedom…..
Agreed, never happen – XR campaign for more state power. IMO only people who campaign for state power to be rolled back get in trouble with authorities.
What like the countryside alliance who want the unfettered right to kill animals without government oversight? The police in the UK have never been more deferential to protesters.
You have 20 chickens in a henhouse, a fox breaks in & takes one chicken for its family to eat, how many chickens do you have left? Answer none in all probability as the fox will kill for pleasure in instinct!!!
There is something truly sick about the left wing mind in it’s desire to interpret everything it disagrees in the worst way possible.
All part of their training & education, they are right & everyone else is wrong & trained & educated by Big-Oil & Big Pharma, well known fact………..in left-wing circles that is!!!
People are getting thoroughly sick of those mentally pre-pubescent XR clowns.
One can only hope the “stinkies”, that you are obviously in awe of, can take being tarred and feathered by the general populace.
Will you be there !
I’m witting to see how the police react to XR disruptions after the police get their gas and electric bills.
My guess is that they won’t be so tolerant of XR nonsense in future interactions.
Don’t believe it for one minute. The police will act just as they have for every XR so called protest, they will let them do whatever they want, then support them.
Protesting black, organic, nutritious, biodegradable, high-density reliables, and diverse other applications? Say, it ain’t so, Joe. #RebelExtinction #HateLovesAbortion
Russian & Chinese money!!
https://unherd.com/2021/12/does-the-ccp-control-extinction-rebellion/
http://www.debunkingclimate.com/russia-articles.html
I’m old enough to remember Thatcher’s Miners Strike. One of the tools she used to defeat the NUM of Scargill was a ban on secondary picketing.
We now have a PM and her husband who seem quite happy to disrupt our lives and achieve Net Zero this year. Heath found out the hard way what happens when people’s lives become miserable.
This is a terrorist group, the secondary picketing law should be used or revised and used to stop them. Another battle of Orgreave may result but if it does we’ll know if the British public want to live with electricity when the wind blows
I think the nonviolent extinction rebellion is going to shortly face some violence.
I hope, a lot of it
There is no cure for stupid, but they could be locked up in padded cells for their own good.
My wife is a care worker. What happens when she and others doing the same job can’t get fuel and so can’t get to those in need? Is that justified? Don’t poor, ill people count for these lunatics? If people die as a result of their actions, will they be charged? They really are demonstrably insane and should be locked away permanently. They do not have the right to dictate how we live.
I agree with you, but XR doesn’t care. Look how they stopped ambulances last time.
That was actually Insulate Britain but no doubt there is considerable crossover in the membership of both groups.
A friend who grew up in Cuba told me that prisoners there had to do work to pay for their incarceration. If they did not compete their work in the given time their sentence would be lengthened. Might work in the UK?
Governments who created this climate scare, are, like the sorcerers apprentice, beginning to reap the whirlwind of the forces they have unintentionally unleashed.
I’m sure China will be taking notice of this and will no doubt get the message and cease all fossil fuel use immediately. After all, that’s surely the goal? I’m sure they meant to include Communist China in all this and it was just an oversight that they missed out how much more CO2 the Communists produce. I mean, they wouldn’t give Communism a free pass, right?
This is what is at the heart of many of these activist groups – anti-capitalism.
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You are of course absolutely right! These people don’t give a tinker’s cuss about the environment, well the useful idiots do, but they just want to seize every opportunity to bring down the system that provides wealth to the majority in the Western world, & of course, wealth is always relative. I have known of people on benefits who won’t skimp on their cigarettes & booze, or the latest super tv/mobile phone, etc., but claim poverty when it comes to buying a school uniform for their children, meaning someone else has to dip their hands into their pockets!!!
As humans, we all start life as deuterostomes. Continuing to be one into adult life is a matter of choice.
I expect Putin is backing these people too, as he has backed many anti fracking anti fossil fuel groups in the past. These people are traitors and should be treated the same way as any Putin crony!
Don’t forget China, Soros and other virtue signaling rich people.
Good old fashioned Socialist rhetoric never ever changes, same old revolutionary mantra, no real solutions to anything, just keeping up the desire for violent action, seen it all before, nullius novus sub-Solis, they simply ignore all the great things so called fossil-fuels have given modern day life. Interesting that they haven’t issued a public edict to their followers to NOT use any fossil-fuelled transportation to attend these rallies/protests, etc, how curious why they haven’t!!!
What they’ll get is the tipping point where people start beating the snot out of XR protestors and threatening the Police with the same if they try and intervene.
I can remember, a mere fifty years ago, that sabotage was considered a very serious crime with hefty penalties. Now if it is done “to prevent climate change” it is simply a legitimate protest with a slap on the wrist. It is high time to bring back strict penalties and hard labour.
BLM protests were known for their absence of violence, weren’t they ?
Rhethoric question…
utterly out of touch off the planet! hope theyve got good health care as i suspect many will get thumped hard
Offer to help them out. Appraise them of the oil based apparel they are wearing and offer to replace with wool and leather items only – looks too cold for cotton. Woolen blankets, leather for footware. Unfortunately, duct tape to hold it all together.would be a big no-no.
Extinction Rebellion has promised to do all they can to disrupt the supply of
gasolinepetrol to UK motorists, to create a “tipping point” in which people abandon fossil fuel.Fixed.
Greenie terrorists need to be stopped. Have water canons at the ready wherever these terrorists plan to be. Do not allow them to hide behind their so-called “nonviolent” description of what they are planning. In addition, they are traitors. Putin loves what they are planning to do.
This is in fact WWIII now. Just because nukes have not been used (yet) is immaterial. Their use has been implied by Russia, and is the only reason their criminal and murderous action against Ukraine hasn’t been stopped by the free world. Honestly, the line-drawing is a bit disgusting. Targeting the civilian population, including bombing a children’s hospital is bad, but still not “bad enough”. Now that they’ve gotten away with all of that, there is the very real possibility that they will use chemical weapons, and will try to blame them on “Ukrainian nazis”. And that is where the line is drawn, apparently. That is when NATO will step in. Maybe. Unless Putin agrees to “peace talks”. Because Putin is all about peace.
Has anyone in the UK attempted to trace where this group gets it’s funding?
Those in power don’t want to know.
The money comes from parasite billionaires.
The UK’s share of world CO² emissions is 1%.
I wonder what effect they think eliminating that 1% would be on the UK climate?
I could tell them if they asked nicely.
This now breaches the terrorism legislation of the U.K.
“focused acts of mass participation to overwhelm the state”
Those come in two kinds. General elections and revolutions.
I see no mention of my opportunity to vote so they must be planning the other one.
They will create a tipping point for sure. Stop the harm at the source. Will be done by citizens who have had enough by bringing their whips and pitchforks.
Do these f’n idiots realize the sign they are holding is made from petroleum products?
I’m sure they don’t care. They are the anointed, they don’t have to follow the rules they are setting up for the rest of us.
You gotta love the Extinction Rebellion movement:
There now is a significantly increased threat of biological or nuclear warfare that could easily escalate beyond Ukraine’s border and threaten WWIII; but the ER movement decides they must focus on “ending the fossil fuel economy”.
Geniuses all.
How much is Putin paying these idiots?
Hope they don’t drive there.
Unlike with the IB idiots, this time the gloves will be off. If they do this, they can expect to end up in hospital.
Has Griff been called up to the front lines or is he too important in the back office with media operations?
Rather than stopping all of us from getting the fuel we need why don’t Extinction Rebellion show us how it is done ??? Why don’t they stop using oil and gas and petrol and IF it works for them – WE WILL FOLLOW. But to keep stopping us all from living our lives WE WILL MAKE BLOODY SURE THEY CANNOT LIVE THEIRS if it is the LAST thing we do !!!!!!!!!!!
Well, this may bring extinction to Extinction Rebellion.
Lunatics. Dangerous lunatics…..
William Briggs recently exposed his part in breaking the UK Coal Strike — a communist planned and executed attempt to bring the UK to its knees in 1969 — I remember following it in the news day after day. (I have asked him for the link — as I have lost it.)
This XR effort is of the same ilk, sponsored and paid for by the same people. It used to be ComIntern but is now a more shadowy group — maybe the international department of Russia’s central committee. Since Putin replaced the government of Russia with what had previously been the KGB, who knows what they call it. It still has the same purpose: Destroy Western Free Societies.
Not Briggs! It was Monckton here: “The Strategic Threat from Net-zero Emissions“>
Sums it all up perfectly! We have all been well & truly, & in some cases, deservedly so, led down the merry path of stupidity & naivety, perhaps there is a way back to common sense (taboo I know), perhaps not, but I for one have had my fill of the Green BS I & others have been fed for far too long!!!
I think the continued ability for these Marxist idiots to breathe needs to be disrupted.
They may be idiots, but they are not marxists.
There are no marxists left in the UK.
There are, unfortunately, a lot of Marxists left in the UK – Jonathan Lansman, head of Momentum, is a self confessed Marxist as are many Momentum members; Corbyn and several of his acolytes in the Labour party are Marxists. Marxism in the UK has always been an odd duck – generally made up of champagne socialists and ‘daddy’s little rebels’ – for most it’s a social club and a phase of rebellion they go through before swinging back to the other end of the political spectrum. For the few that have never grown up, however, it remains their political ‘safety blanket.’
Time for extinction rebellion to become extinct .
They could practice what they preach as an example to all their followers by not using any fossil fuelled products of modern civilisation , ie go live in a cave instead of interfering with other peoples lives .
I see where you’re coming from, but it is we peasants/plebeians who must give up modern civilisation, not the intellectual ruling elites. However democracy still rules in the UK, at elections we have the options of voting for Tree-hugger A, Tree-hugger B, or Tree-hugger C, all three pledged to save the World from an horrific global warming rate of 1/7000th of a degree per year!!!
Well every point of view has its idiots and these are certainly idiots.
Just think of them as being on the same spectrum as QANON and the NWO conspiracists.
Tell you what Griffy-poo, how about if you and XR go to Ukraine and rebel for life there. Take your protest signs with you addressing the climate, fossil fuels, etc. We’ll see if the Russians show any interest in your concerns when you start shelling you during your protests.
The nice comfy cushy life you and XR live there in Britain is something many Ukrainians could only wish for right now as their cities are destroyed and their lives are severly upended or snuffed out. Meanwhile the rest of us here in the West wonder if a nuclear WWIII is in the offing. The climate is the last thing on the minds of Ukrainians right now, and it probably will be for long time.
Guess who the real idiot is here Griffy-poo?
Actually Griffy, if we’re discussing extremist idiots, they are far more akin to Antifa and BLM – other groups that seem to think using domestic terror as a legitimate campaign tool is acceptable.
Perhaps build some environment friendly wind farms in eastern Ukraine.
I’m sure the Russians would be keen to help….or maybe they already are.
There are plenty of useful idiots about