Marc Morano
Thank you, Sen. Manchin!
Manchin: “I cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation…This is a no,” Manchin said.
By: Marc Morano – Climate DepotDecember 19, 2021 2:54 PM
https://mailchi.mp/ea8057c1e1c8/its-all-over-for-bidens-climate-agenda-185782?e=0b1369f9f8
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It’s all over for Joe Biden’s climate agenda
Joe Manchin kills Build Back Better bill on Fox News
It’s all over: Manchin says he ‘cannot vote’ for Build Back Better
‘I cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation,’ he said
Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., declared Sunday that after months of negotiations he has determined that there is no way he can support the massive social spending bill known as the Build Back Better Act. Speaking with “Fox News Sunday,” Manchin said that he has spoken with President Biden, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., “I’ve done everything humanly possible,” Manchin said, talking about how hard he has worked to try to reach an acceptable compromise on the bill.
In the end, however, he said that between ongoing inflation, the national debt, “geopolitical unrest,” and the COVID-19 pandemic, the bill being pushed by his fellow Democrats was too much. “When you have these things coming at you the way they are right now … I cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation,” he said, stating that if he cannot explain to his constituents why he would vote for a bill, then he cannot vote for it, despite all the work he and other Democrats have put into trying to make it work. “This is a no,” he said. “I have tried everything I know to do.”
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Joe Manchin kills Build Back Better bill on Fox News
The Daily Beast, 19 December 2021
The conservative Democrat appeared on Fox News on Sunday and struck the death knell to the ambitious and massive social spending policy that was the president’s top priority.
Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) finally put the nail in the coffin of the Biden administration’s ambitious Build Back Better social spending package, declaring on Sunday that he was a “no” on the legislation and “can’t vote for it.”
‘BONKERS!’ Watch new Morano Minute: ‘The Jurassic, Holocene, and now….Manchin-cene??!’ Climate activists say Sen. Manchin’s opposition to Biden’s pork-barrel spending will alter Earth’s geologic record! | Climate Depot – https://t.co/uWxdFBwpiF
— Marc Morano (@ClimateDepot) December 19, 2021
Michael Mann on MSNBC: “Well, you know, we need to pass Build Back Better, because that –that bill has climate provisions that will address this problem at its, you know, at its core, which is the warming of the planet due to carbon pollution, fossil fuel burning, so that’s most important. We can prevent this from getting worse if we act on climate.” …
Mann: “It’s really both. It’s adapting to the changes that we are already forced to deal with and preventing it most importantly, from getting worse by acting on climate.”
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Marc Morano comment: “Pass a pork-barrel spending bill to improve the weather!? Mann must be utilizing every ounce of his Ph.D. to have come up with climate ‘solution.’” See:‘BONKERS!’ Watch Morano Minute: ‘The Jurassic, Holocene, and now….Manchin-cene??!’ Climate activists say Sen. Manchin’s opposition to Biden’s pork-barrel spending will alter Earth’s geologic record!
Climate activists say Sen. Manchin will change Earth’s geologic record – Watch new Morano MinuteClimate activists are claiming that Senator Joe Manchin’s opposition to Biden’s pork-climate spending bill, aka “Build Back Better,” will be so harmful we will see the impact of it on the geologic record.
The Jurassic, Holocene, and now….Manchin-cene??
Learn more on the latest episode of CFACT’s Morano Minute here.
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Background:
Manchin said he does not agree that the federal government’s role should be supporting private-sector EV infrastructure buildouts.
“They talked about electric vehicles spending, $80 million building charging stations,” Manchin said. “I said I’m having a hard time with that. I don’t remember the federal government building filling stations when Henry Ford invented the Model T.”
JEFF GOODELL of Rolling Stone: “West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin just cooked the planet. I don’t mean that in a metaphorical sense. I mean that literally. Unless Manchin changes his negotiating position dramatically in the near future, he will be remembered as the man who, when the moment of decision came, chose to condemn virtually every living creature on Earth to a hellish future of suffering, hardship, and death.”
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New York Senator Chuck Schumer: “If we would do more on climate change, we’d have fewer of these hurricanes and other types of storms. Everyone knows that, except a few.” – Schumer said the Trump administration has done nothing but “move the issue backward.”
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The “build back better” propaganda is spreading like a plague.
good!
Riddance.
Ha ha yes. If it wasn’t for propaganda, griff would have nothing in his head.
Spreading propaganda is good?
I never thought I would see griff admit that his side is just spreading propaganda.
Goebbels thought it was good. Until the the rest of the world disagreed.
You support plagues? Misanthropic much?
BUILD A BIGGER BOLDER BROADER BARRIER TO BIDEN…AND THE GRIFFTER
Dennis, it’s just another catch-phrase cobbled up by the twitter-obsessed ‘likes’ miners who work for Leftism Inc.
There’s absolutely no implied actions of any substance behind this empty verbal diarrhea.
Proof of my observation is that Justin Trudeau is a frequent utterer of this tosh.
And there is no emptier vessel on the world stage today than J. Trudeau.
Politicians respond to those who make the loudest noise and as the idiom reminds us, empty vessels make the most noise.
French “conservative party” presidential candidate, Valérie Pécresse, winner of the primary (thanks to foreign voters incl. Chinese people allegedly) is WEF pusher
https://www.weforum.org/people/valerie-pecresse
A very long winded excuse for why the Democrats failed to get the support of any Republican Senators, despite several being absolute squishes.
One would’ve thought they’d learned their lesson from the 2009-2013 ObamaCare fiasco which got zero Congressional Republican votes and sent them into the wilderness for 8 years and helped elect Trump. Learning from mistakes is what a rational, thinking person does. But Not Democrats.
The Democrats never learn lessons. They stay dumber and just keep getting dumber by electing the likes of AOC and her squad ilk. And then they double down on the Socialsm calls and the climate scam alarmism.
The Democratic Party has become an anachronism which, I believe, is what makes them have to lie so hard. In fact:
“If it wasn’t for things that don’t exist, the left would have nothing”
(yes please go ahead and steal it)
I respectively disagree that Democrats, aka Progressives, are ‘dumb(er)’. In fact they are very smart in knowing that their opponents have been largely incapable of rolling back any meaningful portion of the progressive agenda over the past 100+ years. The result of this ‘ratchet’ effect is that the Democrats are always incentivized to throw as much socialist crap against the wall as they can, knowing whatever pieces stick there will likely become a permanent feature of the decor.
That’s what has been happening. We need to change that.
One would’ve thought that with the Democrats being so dumb it would have been plain sailing for the Republicans to take them down, unless it is because there are too many of them that are both dumb and corrupt like their friends across the aisle. Why do Americans vote for these people?
There are a lot of dead voters.
There was a time when when both the Democratic and Republican parties wanted to preserve the ideals expressed in The Declaration of Independence and The Bill of Rights.
They just disagreed on how best to do it.
Glad there’s at least one Democrat left in the Senate that still thinks that way.
Sad that 13 Republicans in the House don’t.
This is a temporary setback. Lovers of death never stop gnawing, or battering, at life.
But as long as sex is more popular than death, normal people will continue to fight back.
“Glad there’s at least one Democrat [Manchin] left in the Senate that still thinks that way”
He’s about the only one left. The U.S. Senator from Arizona, Sinema, may be one other. And that’s about it. The rest of them are radical Lefties.
Marc Morano writes to begin the post, “Thank you, Sen. Manchin!”
Ditto!!! plus a YAY for Joe Manchin!!
Regards,
Bob
PS: I guess Joe Manchin’s refusal to support BBB is his way of saying Let’s Go Brandon.
Senator Manchin nominated for MOST SANE MAN OF THE YEAR
Don’t forget the 50 Republicans that will note “No” also.
You should thank him directly. Politicians need to be reinforced when they do something right. Unlike some, he accepts messages from those who are not his constituents.
https://www.manchin.senate.gov/contact-joe/email-joe
I just dropped him a congratulatory email.
Thanks for the link, I just sent a Thank you note.
Just did, too
Done. Thanks for the reminder.
Why is that all these “experts” on climate change seem to hype to every (only recent) weather disaster as proof of the need for The Green New Deal … er … The BBS?
The recent tornados were horrible.
“Climate” isn’t measured in years but by decades. The “experts” should know know that.
It’s also not measured by property damage or fatalities.
PS In the context of this post, when was the last EF5 tornado in the US? They originally classed what hit KY as an ER3. The recently upped to an EF4.
Maybe it was.
But I sure hope they didn’t up it based on anything other than the strength of the storm.
Because there are so many extreme and record setting weather events – US/Canada heatwave, NY flooding, Kentucky tornadoes, Vancouver floods, Germany floods, China floods, Med heatwave with new record for Europe, Greece, Philippine typhoon, e Africa drought – and that’s just last 6 months
Shit happens all the time. Always has, always will.
I remember an old advertisement song, seems appropriate here:
“Kool Aid , Kool Aid, tastes great,
Kool Aid, Kool Aid, can’t wait”
Put the cup down Griff. I think you’ve drank enough.
Do you think record breaking weather events are something new then, griff?
How do you imagine those records being broken were first established?
Oooo, now you’re really messing with Griff’s head 😱
As usual, griff has to take weather that has been happening for millenia, and proclaim that this time it was caused by CO2.
Whine whine whine bawl bawl.
Every event on your list has occurred and been recorded repeatedly in the short histories of mankind recording weather.
Only parasites desperate to maintain funding for ridiculous climate nonsense whine like you.
The blaring news events described above by alarmists are perfect examples of alarmists pretending to rend their clothes and screeching for all they are worth, in public.
Meanwhile, they’ve made no changes to their dependence upon fossil fuel comforts in their homes, vehicles and clothes.
All that noise is fake wailing, by propagandists and parasites.
weird that, Griff, when deaths from extreme weather have declined by over 80% since the 1930s when the world’s population was far smaller- https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters
Idiot.
griff, you forgot about all the extra earthquakes! Oh, and the volcanic eruptions, we can’t exclude those.
You could repeat that list of weather disasters every year, Griff. That kind of weather happens every year. You want to see it as something out of the ordinary, but as we know, it is very hard to find a weather event that was worse today than one in the past. There is no provable unprecedented weather today.
Unprecedented CO2-enhanced weather is what alarmists try to sell us, but they cannot connect the weather to CO2 in any demonstrable way, they just claim they can, like Griff is doing. Unsubstantiated assertions is all the climate change alarmists have.
Why is Griff so incredibly obtuse?
It has been explained to him many times that the Normal Distribution of weather events will ensure that ALL weather records will be beaten eventually, regardless of the climate. Not a day passes without some record being broken somewhere on Earth.
And how old is the OLDEST record being broken at any given time. 100 years? 150 years?
If we have verifiable records of precipitation, temperature, storms, etc. for 2000 years we probably WOULD NOT be breaking records every day.
Yes, claiming “unprecedented” when we only have a couple of hundred years of weather data, is an unsupported assumption/assertion. Not provable.
Everything Griff writes about occurs in some other country he doesn’t live in (thank goodness).
Why does he spew nonsense about countries he knows FA about and has never visited?
Still payed to spout the far-left mantra Griff? I thought (by now) the left would have cut you loose!
“But I sure hope they didn’t up it based on anything other than the strength of the storm.”
Anymore, one has to be suspicious of everything weather-related put out by the government.
Leftists both in and out of government have been claiming that failure to pass the Build Socialism Better bill could mean the end of democracy in the US.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/manchin-media-critics-predict-vote-democracy
Any time the lefties don’t get their way it’s the ‘end of democracy’.
Yes. What they are really complaining about and fearing is the end of socialism in the U.S.
Democracy is long gone
Democrats have their own definition of ‘democracy’. Every time they say someone is destroying democracy, they just mean that someone is challenging democrat totalitarian rule.
If you’re referring to “Feel the Bern” Sanders, he should be reminded that Senator Manchin was democratically elected in West Virginia, which has about three times the population of Sanders’ state of Vermont.
So, if Build Back Better actually passed, and there was no more coal or oil or natural gas sent there from other states, how would the people of the tropical paradise of Vermont (sarc!) heat their homes? Vermont only gets about 8 hours of sunshine on a clear day this time of year, and clear days are rare, and what if the solar panel is buried in snow?
The name Vermont is derived from the French “verts-monts”, or “green hills”. I suppose shivering Vermonters could cut down trees and burn wood, but wood emits more CO2 per unit energy released than oil or natural gas, so that wouldn’t really solve the problem.
It is scary how close the Senate vote is: only ONE Democrat had the guts to say
‘no’ to an awful bill. But the Left will not give up on this. Expect more pressure on Manchin in January.
Even AZ Sen. Sinema, who showed evidence of a spine on other misguided legislation, was apparently for the BBB. Sad.
And here in central Arizona we had another gorgeous day thanks to “climate change”.
Here in the Commonwealth of Australia summer has finally arrived and very hot conditions are being experienced, particularly inland Australia, today 29 C on the East Coast where I live but with a pleasant cooling sea breeze.
The television news people are dusting off their summer scare weather words, “punishing heat”, for example. No, about average for this time of year and should rise over 30 C in January.
I looked at my diary entries in January 2012 when travelling interstate New South Wales to Victoria and South Australia with daily temperature readings just below and just over 40 C and late at night around 30 C. I needed the two air conditioner units in my 4WD while driving during those days.
If bushfires commence, noting that the last seriously bad period began in early December 2019, no doubt the Greens and left leaning media will announce a “climate emergency” again.
Sen. Sinema never supported the BBB bill. She also was a firm no on ending the filibuster, on packing the Supreme Court, and pretty much everything else that the DemoCommies tried to do this year.
Immediately after Sinema cast one of her first votes as a senator I read a headline proclaiming, “Arizona may have its most conservative senator in 40 years.” More and more I think it was correct, which just highlights how bad McCain was.
Just remember she is up for reelection in 2022.
If she wins reelection, she will show her true LIBERAL colors for 6 years.
Maybe she didn’t “support it”, but can anyone post any evidence that if Manchin had voted yes, that she would have voted no? Either she would have voted for it, or she decided to let Manchin be the sacrificial lamb to take all the abuse while keeping her head down. Either way, she doesn’t get any respect from me. 🙁
Fortunately Joe Manchin declared Build Back Better dead today on FOX News. He is a NO VOTE. Sanity returns to the Senate. And I want to also thank Kristen Sinema from AZ for adamantly opposing the filibuster. So nothing of substance will come about before the 2022 election. Dems thought the Virginia, New Jersey, New York elections were an eye opener, wait until next year.
I know the left wing media will continue to push the Insurrection hoax because that is all they think they can do to try and stem the tide against a Democrat blow out. And it will be a blow out of historic proportions. With Republicans in charge (maybe Trump as speaker of the house), it will be like a TDS-22 virus hit the blue states.
1. No Biden Supreme court justices approved by the Senate.
2. Democrats representative removed from house committees (Pelosi, the squad, Schiff, Swalwell, Maxine Waters)
3. At least two impeachments (Biden, Obama) for corruption and weaponizing Government agencies to interfere with 2016 election to favor Democrats.
4. Investigations into Biden family corruption and influence peddling with China, Russia, Ukraine.
And 2024 will prove to be no better, because there is no Democrat who is electable. Hell, the democrats think running Beto in Texas for Governor is a good choice. Might as well run Deblasio for TX governor. Fortunately black and Hispanic voters are seeing through democrats lies and are swinging towards republican politicians in historic levels. Thanks Donald Trump.
We can only hope, but I am not betting on it. I expect 3x more Covid hysteria.
I hope you are right, but Democrat cheating succeeded in 2020 and you can bet that they are busy fine tuning that effort for November 2022.
Lindell + AG’s complaint to SCOTUS wrt violations of Federal and State election laws should lead to a decision before the 2022 election. Hopefully this will lead to a stop of the cheating, and that fair elections take place.
“I hope you are right, but Democrat cheating succeeded in 2020”
Not really. The only place cheating was really an issue was the presidential part of the vote. All the local elections were won by Republicans so Democrats were not able to cheat them out of those victories. Trump carried a lot of Republicans over the finish line, but did not make it himself. Strange.
The 2022 elections will be about local elections, which are much harder to steal, and all indications are Republicans are going to win in a landslide.
I usually say local elections are about local issues, but I don’t think that will be the case this time. This time, I think people are going to vote to take away the Democrat’s political power.
I see where some wishy-washy Republicans are already saying Trump wouldn’t be the best candidate in 2024. I guess they ignore the fact that Trump leads all the polls by large margins over Biden and all the Republicans. This particular wishy-washy Republican must want some attention from the Leftwing Media.
If the Republican-controlled U.S. House were to vote Trump as Speaker of the House in January 2023, we could get him started on reform even before he gets re-elected president in 2024.
That would be a thing of beauty to be sure. Just think of all the exploding heads on npr as Nancy has to turn over the gavel to Trump.
I guess she’d probably retire in November if it looked like Trump was going to replace her though.
And yes, believe it or not, it can be done. Representatives do not need to choose an incumbent representative as speaker.
“That would be a thing of beauty to be sure. Just think of all the exploding heads on npr as Nancy has to turn over the gavel to Trump.”
That would be worth it, right there!
I imagine if this scenario were ever to play out, a lot of radical Democrats would suffer some serious mental health problems over Trump.
They are barely in touch with reality as it is, and Trump getting back political power would put them over the edge. Remember that one Democrat who was down on his knees screaming up to the sky, after Hillary lost? There will be a lot more Democrats like him if Trump makes a comeback.
Expect the Left and their propaganda organ, the Leftwing Media, to step up the demonizing of Trump from now right through the next elections. it will be relentless character assasination. The one thing the Left is good at.
Even if Republicans manage to sweep the house and senate elections, several of your ideas simply won’t happen. Too many Republicans are simply too feckless. About the only ones that have a shot of happening are 1 (they’ve managed that much in the past) and 2 (as payback for the Dems removing Republicans from house committees).
Item 4 would happen also, that is pretty clear. All of this is payback and was written to scare the be-gee-bees out of democrats. They should be scared. The way I like to think of item 3, which is the real long shot, is bringing home the equity component…
IMPEACH (45 x 2) = IMPEACH (44 + 46)
Since the remedy for impeachment is removal from office, you can’t impeach someone who is no longer in office, so impeaching 44 isn’t a logical or realistic possibility at this point. That ship sailed years ago. You’ll need to use other options (a grand jury indictment for example) for payback against 44 (and don’t forget the Hildebeast when doing so).
Get serious – Trump would and never will be Speaker of the House. It would require him to do actual work, and actually have to learn something about how things work in government. Trump is more likely to seek the Democratic nomination for President than he is to be elected Speaker of the House.
You seem to think the Donald is above the want for retribution. And Lazy is not a word I would use to describe DJT. Where have you been the last 5 years?
What is it about some people and their need to find absolutely nothing good about those they hate?
To the point where they have to make up lies when the facts don’t support their hatred.
It works for Adam Schiff-ster.
Schiff needs to be prosecuted for lying to Congress and the American people.
January 2023.
Absolutely.
Adam Schiff needs to be prosecuted for extreme creepiness.
Richard Nixon without the sunny disposition!
🙂 … Why is it every time I see that guy I want to close one hand around his neck and … ?
Don’t say it!
Him, and Swalwell. Swalwell is another Democrat liar who should be prosecuted. He likes to do business with communist spies. Like Hunter Biden does.
I see where Danang Dick Bluementhal, U.S. Senator from Connecticut, was a featured speaker at the 102nd anniversay of the American Communist Party.
Danang Dick is called that because he lied and said he served in Vietnam, which turned out to be false. So Connecticut has a Liar and a Communist representing them. Can’t you do better than this guy?
Talking about Dick Bluementhal, he’s another creepy guy. How do they choose such obviously slimy characters? Then there are the truly dense ones, like Swalwell, Hank Johnson and Mazie Hirono. I can’t even think of a category for Dianne Feinstein and Maxine Waters.
(Mind you, being a Canadian, I have no leg to stand on. We elected Justine Trudeau 3 times).
That, too.
Where have you been the last 5 years? I believed those things before the 2016 election because that’s all the media would print. Even Fox News was big in pointing out how Trump had a history of donating to D’s. Then he won the election and after inauguration he set about doing what he said he would do. And he didn’t just charge ahead blindly, he (or hired someone to) researched things first, figured out what the Constitution and the laws allowed him to do and pushed it as far as he could, rarely overstepping what the aforementioned would support, which he knew was necessary because he would get challenged at every move. And most times he was proven correct.
One thing he still gets criticized for, but his supporters consider a feature not a bug, is he’s cantankerous, he won’t just let things slide and try to pretend they never happened. The Lame Stream Media used that against him, constantly spinning yarns prior to the 2020 election, I think in a “softening up” attack, trying to make it appear reasonable that he might lose the election. So he did some things that worked against him, but by now I don’t believe I would recommend he change them.
Do you really think Trump is a bumbling idiot?
I’m sure Duane does, but it’s just projection on his part.
“Get serious – Trump would and never will be Speaker of the House.”
While it’s not likely to happen (Trump has express no desire for the position, for starters), it’s not impossible (so never say never). The rules of the House allow for a speaker to be chosen who is not a member of Congress. Which means, a Republican controlled House would be well within their power to appoint Trump speaker if they so chose. Whether they would want to (and whether Trump would want to accept should they do so) is a separate issue.
“It would require him to do actual work, and actually have to learn something about how things work in government.”
The man was president for 4 years, I dare say he knows a great deal more about how things work in government (just from first hand experience) than you do. For one thing I wouldn’t be surprised if he knows that the House can pick someone other than a congress critter to be speaker, something you clearly didn’t know judging by your post. 😉
Don’t count your chickens too soon the Dems have an algorithm waiting in the voting wings to fix their core problems i.e. a massive anti Democrat voting public.
They just don’t believe in counting the votes they don’t like. The computer says…”No”
Wow, this post is just a jumbled mess.
Blocking Build Back Better has prevented a serious trade war with Canada. link
So what, you say. Unlike China, Canada actually buys stuff from America. Way more American jobs depend on Canada than on any other country.
I have a feeling someone had a lot of fun putting this article together…
Senator Manchin has given a happy and joyous xmas present to a relieved nation for sure.
“Hell hath no fury like Marxists scorned.”
Let us remind ourselves here that Hitler also went into fits of rage when the war wasn’t going his way. Typical radical behavior.
Hitler was bat sh1t crazy.
Then again, so are most radicals.
“Hitler was bat sh1t crazy.”
So is the far left in general.
So is Trump, Trumpists, and the far right.
God save America from all radicals and idiots.
Is your hatred of Trump so great that what few neuron’s you have left are now misfiring?
Care to come up with evidence that Trump is crazy, or is posting mean tweets about people you like all the evidence you need?
“… and the far right.”
Duane,
George Orwell famously said words to the effect that we need to be precise in our language if we wish to avoid getting tangled up in our underwear and ceding the political field to extremists. So, I’d like to know how you define left and right in your mind.
Personally, I see a gradient in how individual rights and economic activity are determined between 100% collective determination (the far left) to 100% individual determination (the far right). This scale consistently places monstrosities like Communism and National Socialism together on the far left, as opposed to the scale preferred by Statists of all persuasions, including Progressives, that places anyone even remotely skeptical of unlimited government on the “far right” with the Nazis and other Fascists.
So maybe you can explain why you place Trump, and the 70+ million people who voted for him, on the far right.
Those people who lack self awareness have a tendency to place themselves at the center of their political universe.
Ever notice how the media is always whining about the evils of the far right, but there doesn’t seem to be anyone who qualifies as far left?
Yup. About the only criticism of Josef Stalin in the NY Times was that he was a ‘conservative’.
Only disagreement here is calling Nazi/Fascists “far right”. You do know that Nazi is short for National SOCIALIST Workers Party, right? The Stalinists decided to call Hitler “far right” to cover the fact that Stalin/Hitler/Mussolini are just factions of the Far Left, just as Methodists/Lutherans/Catholics are factions of Christianity.
Robert, please re-read my post – I said the Nazis were creatures of the far left, while Statists, not me, habitually place them on the far right.
Trump is neither radical not for right. If I were to place Trump anywhere it would be classical liberal. Being patriotic and contemptuous of the swamp doesn’t make him right leaning. He’s just what the world needs right now. It’s past time for the pendulum to swing back.
no doubt you’ve seen the movie “Downfall”- and the numerous comic versions of it, which are extremely funny
Democrats are not Marxist, nor is there any comparison between them and the Hitler regime.
Please, dial down the hyperbole
Coming from you, Griff mate, that’s off the GuffawOmeter scale
You might want to educate yourself about who the National Socialists were.
They may not be Marxists, however what the push will result in Marxism.
In your mind, comparing people who want to jail those who disagree with them to Hitler, is inappropriate? Why?
(Dem) Senator Blumenthal Delivered Speech at Communist Party Awards
He tried to say he didn’t know, but too bad for him there is video, and the only way he couldn’t have known is if he was deaf and blind. You may not have seen this on the MSM news, because it’s Communist, but if it had been KKK, or even Proud Boys, you’d have seen it everywhere…..
That’s my Senator
The Bloomin’ Idiot
I guess I’ve voted against him more often than any other politician.
Nothing can save Connecticut.
No comparison Griff?
Let’s see, one of these groups pointed to a certain group of people and declared that those were the people responsible for all of society’s ills and decided first that these people needed to be sidelined, slandered, and prevented from having any control in government. They decided they should take away their guns first. Then they decided that these people needed to be outed as enemies of the state and publicly harrassed. They mounted a campaign of smashing their store windows and destroying their means of income. All of this was done under the guise of national socialism to support a worker’s party.
Griff, who am I talking about? The Hitler regime or democrats?
I’m guessing Both !
Sounds like both
Trick question, you’re describing both.
“Democrats are not Marxist..” Not overtly, because admitted “socialists” can’t win a national election in the US. Please use the rational side of your brain, for once, and recollect that the DNC twice torpedoed Bernie Sanders (2016 and 2020). They do like his policies, however.
Rational side?
Of griff’s brain?
griff has a brain?
“Democrats are not Marxist, nor is there any comparison between them and the Hitler regime.
Please, dial down the hyperbole.”
Griffy-poo:
I acknowledge that not all Democrats here in America can be classified as Marxist. Senator Manchin does not appear to be among those who could. My point was that it is probably the Marxists or near-Marxists on the Left that are having a major malfunction and are throwing the biggest tantrums over Senator Manchin’s “no” vote on the BBB. The claims about an “end of democracy” and a new geological epoch because of the BBB’s failure are patently absurd.
I have little doubt that there are likely plenty on the Left here in America who share Karl Marx’s contempt for a free market economy to some degree or another. Bernie Sanders in the Senate and “The Squad” in the House immediately come to mind. As the Democrats drift farther to the Left, they come closer and closer to the ideas, theories and thinking of Karl Marx.
If you live in Britain Griffy-poo, you may not have heard of the Black Lives Matter movement and the Critical Race Theory (CRT). Both of them attempt to address the race issue here in the U.S. from a Marxist perspective. BLM’s founders and leaders are openly Marxist…they do not hide it. The CRT is generating a lot of controversy because its supporters want it taught in our public schools (and it is in some cases). The fact that it appears to take its ideas from Karl Marx does appear to bother the CRT’s supporters. It is probably difficult to gauge how much support BLM and the CRT have among Democrats, but I have my doubts that it is insignificant. Marxism is not a well thought out means to racial equality.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/critical-race-theory-is-repackaged-marxism-white-supremacy/ar-AALGh0J
Radicals on both ends of the political spectrum are probably the ones who have the least tolerance for both dissent and an inability to have their way. That is one way to detect them. It does not occur to them that we all need to be at or near the center of the political spectrum and tolerate differing opinions if we are to get along with each other.
I’ve been observing the political landscape, but in the US and internationally and I have reached one conclusion.
When it comes to having racist attitudes, nobody takes a back seat to those on the left. The further they are to the left, the more racist they tend to be.
“not all Democrats here in America can be classified as Marxist”
Then again Bernie Sanders and wife spent their honeymoon in the Soviet Union. When it was still ruled by Stalin. And no, they weren’t on a secret spying mission for the CIA. That’s where they wanted to spend their honeymoon. Just sayin….
Let’s get the facts right. Sanders visited the Soviet Union in 1988 when it was ruled by Gorbachev, not Stalin.
You forgot about IG Farben, and where the money came from to fund Hitler’s re-armement and other early adventures?
Follow the money trail.
The EU is fundamentally a neo-marxist construct.
The plan is to redistribute wealth from the “rich” to the “poor”.
The poor being those eastern European countries that deliberately run a deficit to be eligible for EU struct funding.
Check the facts, the new Eastern EU countries all deliberately have been in the red for decades now inc PL to the tune of billions.
They all claim to be democratic, and claim they are “entitled” to this gravy train. Marxism in action masquerading as ‘democracy”.
In the USA it’s a developed strategy with serious backing, designed to subsidence loss making entities (such as eg. Tesla).
Marxism is a construct to have a great life at the expense of other people’s money, just like Karl Marx actually lived in London.
Working hard as meritocracy, is just as impossible to democrats in the USA, as to Bojo’s assistomatic renewables gravy train.
Nothing changes in 150 yrs!
“The plan is to redistribute wealth from the “rich” to the “poor”.
Uh no. The plan is to redistribute wealth from the middle class to their supporters, but only after the Elites take a huge “commission”.
you first…. so please dial down the propaganda.
Yeah – just like Trump did repeatedly, throwing constant temper tantrums and making threats against anyone who dared to not kiss his big fat ass.
What’s the matter, did Trump piss in your oatmeal this morning?
Why has the death of this bill upset you so much?
Simon the Zealot will be along shortly to make sure everyone sees the rest of the standard lies.
Duane:
Please see my reply to Griff at 9:32 AM above.
I acknowledge that Trump is not your typical average Republican. He says a lot of things that are probably not true and has made enemies on the Right as well as the Left. He appears to have a knack for that.
But is he a right-wing radical? Does he throw the kind of temper tantrums that we see on the Left now with the failure of the BBB? I doubt that you will find any kind of consensus on that question.
Rather, Trump says things that aren’t precisely exact, but are fundamentally true. Whereas the typical politician says either things that appear to be precisely correct, but are fundamentally misleading.
Or more often, just plain lies. Look up Adam Schiff in your dictionary.
Democrats declare ‘Democracy is dead’ if Joe Manchin doesn’t vote the way we tell him to!
LOL! You can’t make this stuff up. Democrats should be defined as people with no sense of irony or self awareness.
Yeah what does Manchin think?
It’s like he thinks recording a vote is supposed to be making a decision of some kind, rather than a show of loyalty to the State and Party.
Leftists tried to make the absurd argument that wasting $5 trillion on BBB would, “cost zero dollars, repeat, zero dollars.”
Even though American students are now globally ranked 30th in the world in math, science, and language skills, they were still able to discern this was a blatant lie, and laughed at Biden for saying it.
Then Leftists rewrote the bill and pretended all these insane Green New Deal programs would magically end after 2~4 years, so the $1.75 trillion in new corporate and personal income taxes would fully fund BBB, even though all these programs would continue indefinitely….
As President Regan once said, “The closest thing to eternal life on earth is a new government program.”
Then Leftists said CBO’s $5 trillion scoring on BBB was “Fake News”…
At this point, Manchin called their bluff, and said he’d never support the BBB monstrosity, so BBB is DOA.
The US now has $30 trillion in national debt, and $160 trillion in unfunded liabilities, which will never be paid off….
To keep this charade going, the Federal Reserve increased M1 money supply from $4 trillion in 2019 to $20 TRILLION in 2021, which is why we now have the highest inflation in 40 years, and inflation will continue to increase in the years to come.
2022 midterms and the 2024 general elections can’t come soon enough.
printing money can only have one of 2 effects and side effects.
“Federal Reserve increased M1 money supply from $4 trillion in 2019 to $20 TRILLION in 2021”
Inflation or devaluation of the currency or both.
Inflation coshes the poor most, so the colateral effect is to make rich people richer at the expense of the poor enhancing social divides.
Pigs-san:
You’re correct that inflation is especially devastating to the poor which has already added $4,500/year in costs of goods and services to each US household.which is crushing the poor.
The port now have to make very difficult and deep cuts to their monthly budgets just to keep their families fed and housed.
The highest inflation rate in 40 years is certainly not “transitory” and will continue to rise because it is a function of BOTH monetary inflation (quintupling M1 money supply from $4 trillion to $20 trillion in 18 months-it took 243 YEARS to get to $4 trillion), and massive and severe supply shortages caused by one of the worst supply-chain debacles in US history, because Longshore Unions refuse to hire 70,000+ non-Union longshoreman to keep our ports working 24/7 like every other industrialized country has alway done…
To fix inflation is economically devastating, as it would require interest rates to be increased to 12% (2 percentage points above the actual inflation rate of 10%), which would cause a deep recession and more likely a depression…
Moreover, the Federal Reserve will have to unwind their balance sheet to decrease the money supply by selling off $trillions of toxic-waste assets they’ve purchased off banks under quantitative easing (i e.money printing)…
Basically, we’re screwed big time as the below M1 money supply graph shows….
Last one out, turn off the lights…
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1SL
If Sen. Manchin killing U.S. government CliSciFi pork will fry the Earth, what does Michael Mann think China, India, Africa & etc. building massive numbers of new coal-fired power plants will do? Turn the embers into charcoal briquettes?
China already has the type of government they want. Therefore, China is exempt. India and Africa are too poor to keep the likes of Mann, Gore, et al rich. Since they won’t be able to exploit their little wealth, these countries are exempt too.
Like how Modi just told The Global Elite to f-off on this topic: https://cornwallalliance.org/2021/12/the-east-slams-the-wests-climate-colonialism/
Oddly, this story is not readily available in the western press…
Once again, the problem is so simple that it practically solves itself.
Consider:
BBB is a huge Spend-a-palooza, with the Green New Deal just a small fraction of the total.
Everybody was expected to pay their share of *all* of it, like it or not.
The Solution:
Break out the GND into a separate package. Call it the GND/BBB bill. The cost will be only a small fraction of the whole BBB package. So even if the GND proponents are a a relatively small minority, their fractional share of GND/BBB should be no larger than it was, with *everybody* getting taxed to pay for the whole BBB package.
Encourage the people who believe the GND is vital to go ahead and fund it.
Set up a GoFundMe account.
GND proponents can contribute directly. They can solicit funding from corporate America. They can even raise funds internationally.
Just think how much fun we can have. Anybody claims voting down BBB harms the planet, instantly gets directed to the Go FundMe account. Then that person gets quizzed endlessly on how much they have contributed, and the dollar value of all funds they have solicited.
I have a feeling a lot of alarmists will go quiet right quick and fast.
It is always someone else who has to pay. These boondoggles are sold on the belief that someone else will pay, never the ones who support it. And it is always a lie, no exception.
So the the Build Back Better (BBB) bill is apparently dead. At least for now. But is Joe Biden’s promise to do whatever it takes to quickly reduce America’s carbon emissions also dead?
Several months ago, in response to a question from a reporter, one of Biden’s spokespersons said that if Build Back Better isn’t enacted in Congress, the Biden administration will do everything in its power under its existing Executive Branch authorities to reduce our carbon emissions.
How far could President Biden legally go in making good on his promise to do whatever it takes to pursue his climate agenda, even if he doesn’t have new legislation from Congress?
IMHO, the Executive Branch of the US Government already has all the legal authority it needs to unilaterally impose a fossil fuel lockdown on the American economy. That authority can be enabled in practice by combining elements of the Clean Air Act with elements of national security law as it applies to the declaration of a national emergency.
But would Joe Biden and his people actually use that power?
Back in September, I posted an update to the Supply Side Carbon Emission Control Plan (SSCECP). This notional plan is a means for guaranteeing that the Biden administration’s ambitious GHG reduction targets can be met, assuming Biden and his people decide to get truly serious about emissions reduction as opposed to simply spending lots and lots of money.
The initial starting point for the SSCECP is the declaration of a Climate Emergency under the president’s national security authorities, a declaration of a Carbon Pollution Emergency under his Clean Air Act authorities, and the publication of a Climate Crisis Response Plan (CCRP) which coordinates the individual actions taken under the president’s national security and environmental law authorities.
By presidential decree, all current government-mandated GHG reduction plans, initiatives, and agreements — federal, regional, state, intra-state, county, and city — are subsumed by the SSCECP and are placed under direct federal authority and control.
A series of Executive Orders is then issued which further define and enable the implementing actions to be taken under the overall SSCECP.
The SSCECP incentivizes energy conservation by imposing higher prices on all forms of energy and by placing direct constraints on energy production and consumption. Higher energy prices will in turn attract greater levels of investment in zero carbon energy technologies and will also allow the higher costs of wind, solar, and nuclear — assuming we choose to use nuclear — to be spread more evenly among all energy consumers.
Under the SSCECP, Americans will be consuming half as much energy per capita in 2035 as we do today in 2021, and one-third as much by 2050.
In order to expedite environmental reviews and other permitting reviews of new-build wind, solar, nuclear, energy storage, and energy transmission facilities — portions of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), along with portions of other project permitting requirements, are either partially suspended or else are bypassed altogether, as specifically directed by the President for each eligible new-build energy facility.
Moreover, the president is empowered to assert federal eminent domain over all lands, waters, and properties, either publicly owned or privately owned, which are to be reserved by the federal government for wind, solar, nuclear, energy storage, and/or power transmission development.
A hard target schedule is established for the phased shutdown of America’s fossil fuel support infrastructure.
The master schedule includes the closure of coal-fired and natural gas-fired power plants, oil fields and refineries, fracked natural gas fields, LNG production facilities and terminals, and the majority of our petroleum product pipelines and distribution terminals. Each legacy fossil fuel power plant and each fossil energy support facility being targeted for shutdown is listed individually on this master closure schedule.
This coming Tuesday, President Biden will be announcing what many expect to be a draconian approach to dealing with the COVID pandemic. If that is what he does with public health policy in dealing with COVID-19, then we should not be too surprised if he uses a similarly draconian approach in pushing his climate change agenda.
I read your SSCECP plan with some interest.
Books have been written about some of the issues involved.
I can make a few comments;
About the president’s ability to declare an emergency and trash the constitution in the process:
You assume that legislation already grants the president those powers. I am not so sure.
The courts would have a say for sure. So far they have not looked to kindly on this ploy of the president declaring an emergency to grant the presidency all kinds of extra-constitutional powers.
About using all the federal “alphabet soup” agencies to enforce dictates:
The president is charged to “faithfully execute the laws”, and the agencies are his tools. True.
BUT: Congress has the “Power of the Purse”. Congress has legitimate oversight responsibilities and can forbid the expenditure of *any* monies for this or that cause. This has been done in the past and the result is to halt the agency in it’s tracks with respect to that particular policy/mandate.
Bottom line:
Same as it ever was. It depends wholly on how much push back the president gets. I could imagine this president getting stopped hard.
Right now, it does not seem to be good timing for Let’s Go Brandon to pull a power play of unprecedented overreach.
What power do courts have if the executive branch doesn’t enforce rulings?
Good question.
I wonder if administration personnel up to and including agency heads can be jailed for contempt of court. As far as I know, a person can be jailed indefinitely until they comply. I do believe it has been done, so no precedent is needed or would be set.
That would get things going.
Or as they say, two can play that game.
As Jefferson wrote, “From time to time, the tree of liberty must be watered by the blood of tyrants and patriots.”
If the government becomes so lawless that it ignores the rulings of the courts, then it is time to bring down the government.
What ignorant hyperbole or trite nonsense.
As if China and India will follow USA into the economic abyss. USA can commit economic shicide and it will not alter global fossil fuel consumption.
What Mr. Manchin has said on this subject hasn’t gotten much press, but it appears he has done his homework on China, India and coal power. Agree or disagree, he is pretty “wonkish” on hydrocarbon energy.
Senator Manchin, it appears, accepts the premise of CO2 emissions leading to potentially harmful climate change, so that should be taken into account when thinking he agrees with the main thrust of Mr. Watt’s Web site.
On the other hand, he is from a strong coal and gas producing state. His argument is why should West Virginia be shut down when China and India are going “pedal-to-the-metal” on coal-fired electric power plants, recent pledges, statements and agreements notwithstanding. Unlike, say, some recent US Secretaries of Energy, he knows the numbers up and down, forward and backwards. Representing an energy-producing state, it is his business to know these numbers, and know them he does.
To the extent that the Senator’s position on restrictions on hydrocarbon production gets buried on the back pages of the New York Times, I guess it is a surprise as to why he is so “anti-environment.” Politics is about building coalitions, and the reaction against the man is petulant and reflects an inability and unwillingness to find out “what he is about.”
The man is a Democrat, and I get the sense from his public positions that he supports the social welfare elements of the Build Back Better legislation. I guess one can ask his colleagues, do you prioritize childcare, family leave and senior long-term care, or are your priorities on shutting down the US domestic energy industry for perhaps dubious reasons?
Hilarious!
But here was David Middleton telling us there is no Anthropocene, or did I miss something?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/11/29/the-anthropolitan-compromise/
Non-sequitur.
That’s pretty much describes every post bonbon makes.
No, you stuck your head up your a…ss once again and entered fantasy land.
Funny how the sphincter generates fantasies in Putin-love children?
All this ‘build back better’ rhetoric rides on the back of bad data models. These bad models are all ‘worst case scenarios’ because that’s what the policy makers dictate the modellers produce.
As proven recently in the assertion of the chairman of the UK’s SAGE advisory group that; “we generally model what we are asked to model”.
The Rolling Stone headline is interesting.
These people are so US-centric that they don’t seem to realize that the US does too small a percentage of global emissions for any action by it to make any difference one way or the other.
Or, alternatively, this madness is not about making any difference to the global climate, its about testifying to one’s righteousness as a nation.
I don’t know. But in any case, its a very striking example of the national delusion that unilateral US action can make a difference to global emissions.
er… second highest CO2 emissions in the world. 14% ?
Even taking your number at face value, that means the vast majority (86%) are non-US emissions (and that’s before we even get into all the source of natural emissions, which dwarf the man-made ones) In short, as michel stated “US does too small a percentage of global emissions for any action by it to make any difference one way or the other.”
14% if nothing, is still nothing.
Right. Its about 5 billion tons out of about 37 billion. So by how much was Biden proposing to reduce that 5 billion? One billion? Two?
Meanwhile in the course of the years in which he got that done, the other 85% of emissions will rise by double that.
People need to get real about this. The claim usually is that unless global emissions fall below about 10 billion tons a year by something like 2035, humanity is headed for disaster. As things go now, we are probably headed for a global total certainly in excess of 40 billion and probably nearer to 45.
So just do the math. The US reduces by 2 billion over the next five+ years, China increases by 3 or 4, India by 2 or 3, the rest of the world by a few billion. In fact these other countries are probably going to increase faster than that, if they can.
In these circumstances how much has the Biden reduction done towards reducing global emissions to an extent that, on the theories of the alarmed, will make any difference?
None, zero.
This is the whole problem. People keep advocating doing things ‘because climate’ that on their own theory can have zero effect on it. They refuse to advocate what their theory says is necessary, that is for China, India and so on to actually reduce their tonnage emitted.
Get real.
WTF looney tunes strikes again!
14% of 3% amounts to an insignificant contribution, regardless how you describe it.
Another example of the end of the Unipolar Rules Based Order.
It’s a Multipolar world now.
Odd that this Unipolar delusion stutters on in the UK, Germany.
The activists are just jealous that Manchin’s vote has clout and theirs not.
Good to see there is some rationality left in the Dems.
One Dem.
Consensus baby spits its pacifier … realizes that’s not the real deal.
“ carbon pollution”
A disgrace to the profession
National
Propaganda
Radio
has gone into full shrieking mode.
The reaction to this news from the Climate Caterwaulers is both predictable and hilarious.
Ahhhhhh…..I like me some schadenfreude with my morning coffee.
Build Back a Better Backlash.
Hopefully, this marks a powershift from the left fringe to the middle of the Democrat party where it belongs. The fringe who have been wearing ineffective masks as a banner of solidarity, have been hoodwinked and leveraged by capitalists who appear to be fact check friends but just want American to be eating out of their virtual hands for the sake of dollars and megalomaniacal fantasy.. The fantasy of a virtual America staying at home and not procreating of the left, will bring nothing but a back lash and a headache to our propagandizing capitalistic tech companies. The house of cards of strange bedfellows is beginning to collapse.
It won’t collapse until they succeed. Meaning, it is an inevitability that the Marxists win. This will either force a civil war or we accept their terms of lifestyle. We can not escape this fate.
It isn’t possible to write a constitution that a federal government won’t ignore. I am not sure who said it, paraphrasing here, “Laws are only for law abiding citizens.” The constitution is the only law that applies to making laws. Obviously, law makers are not law abiding citizens.
“Hopefully, this marks a powershift from the left fringe to the middle of the Democrat party where it belongs.”
There is no middle in the Democrat Party any more. There are a few, very few, moderates, and the rest are radical leftists.
Nutty Prof M Mann: Joe Manchin just launched a hand grenade at Glasgow.
I appreciate that the effects of hand grenades tend to be very local rather than global but as I live near Glasgow, could N. P. Mann let me know which part of Glasgow was the target.
“A hand grenade?” (In the tones of Lady Bracknell.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrQQAa6AARc (5.33)
Meh. Hand grenade – atom bomb. Potato potahto.
My gut feeling is the climate change agenda is slowly being consigned to the dustbin. Think of it like the USSR, it was there until the day it collapsed over night. Bubbling away in the background the whole edifice had been in collapse for decades and on the surface we all thought it would last for ever.
Manchin is only playing to his constituents. Thankfully.
“Joe Manchin for president” has a nice ring to it.
age 74
Trump is 75 and thinking of running again. Joe Biden is 79 and currently occupies the oval office – so his age isn’t the valid argument you think it is. At least Manchin appears to still have all his marbles, unlike the big guy.
(make no mistake, I’m not for Machin for president, just pointing out that ageism isn’t a valid argument against.)
Not if he remains a Democrat.
And keep in mind that Manchin was willing to spend $1.8 Trillon, he just had a problem with some of the social spending in the bill.
I think Manchin is still on board with spending lots of money on climate change. I don’t know if that includes hiring 300,000 Climate Change Brownshirts, like AOC wants.
“I cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation,”
“Legislation” wouldn’t have been my first choice of descriptors.
That piece of legislation was thousands of pages thick.
It’s ridiculous the way legislation is handled. It’s the perfect setup for adding pork-barrel spending.
We need the presidential line-item veto as a means of reining in the spending of Congress. It wouldn’t help with Biden in office since he wouldn’t use it, but if the oppostion party was in power, then a lot of stupid spending could be eliminated
What gets me is how few “legislators” even read the proposed bills they vote on. Didn’t Pelosi complain when expected to read the bill first?
Pelosi said we could find out what was in the bill after it was voted on. About as undemocratic as one could be.
And I bet very few congresscritters read thousands of pages of these spending bills. Which means nefarious characters can slip all sorts of things into these bills and nobody knows about them until they become law.
It’s a huge, dangerous distortion of our government processes.
And Trump was regularly attacked for not playing along. He insisted on exposing the rot to the light. These people had a well greased trough to dip their trotters in and he insisted on disturbing the little piggies.
Signing huge, unread omnibus bills … what could possibly go wrong?
Oh, he would use it – consider the Hyde Amendment. THAT would certainly be “lined out.”
Since when has the Rolling Stone been a source of useful information on any subject, including music.
From the article: “Mann: “It’s really both. It’s adapting to the changes that we are already forced to deal with”
What changes? There is no unprecedented weather. There is no unprecedented warming, either. But you knew that, didn’t you.
If one thing fails then Biden simply moves to the next like prescribing what the fuel consumption of vehicles needs to be before 2030. Has he (or his puppet masters) even bothered to check with the manufacturers to see a prototype that will achieve this and be economically viable? I think not.
No he hasn’t, and no they can’t. But then again, he won’t be pretending to be President anymore in 2030.
Joe Manchin is one of a few remaining old-fashioned Senators who sincerely believe that their job is to represent the people of his or her state in the Senate.
West Virginia was a reliable Democrat state up until 2000, since most members of the coal-miners’ union believed that Democrats would defend their interests. When Al Gore came out with his global-warming scare in 1998, and started campaigning against coal mining, West Virginia surprisingly voted for George W. Bush for President. Most of the attention that year was on the extremely close election in Florida, but if Gore had won West Virginia, he would have become President without winning Florida.
West Virginia has voted for the Republican Presidential candidate ever since 2000, by ever-increasing margins, due to the recent tendency of Democrat candidates campaigning against fossil fuels and coal mining (John Kerry, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden). Manchin’s fellow Senator from West Virginia (Shelly Capito, a Republican) was re-elected in 2020 with 70% of the vote.
Joe Manchin is popular in West Virginia because he previously served as Governor before being elected Senator in 2012, and re-elected in 2018 by a narrow margin. He has never turned his back on the coal industry in his state, and knows that if he ever did, his Senate career would end in the next election. The Build Back Better plan had hundreds of billions of dollars devoted to fighting “climate change”, which would have meant shutting down his state’s bread-and-butter industry. Why would Manchin ever support that?
“The Build Back Better plan had hundreds of billions of dollars devoted to fighting “climate change”, which would have meant shutting down his state’s bread-and-butter industry. Why would Manchin ever support that?”
That’s a good question, but it’s my understanding that Manchin is onboard with some spending to “fight” climate change, although it probably doesn’t include cutting out the coal industry.
Manchin was willing to sign off on $1.8 Trillion in spending before Biden’s team upset the applecart, so expect to see something happening within that $1.8 Trillion framework. Manchin has not said no to everything. The next question to answer is what does he say yes to?
We will have to wait and see.