The East Slams the West’s Climate ‘Colonialism’

This commentary was first published by American Greatness on December 17, 2021

By Vijay Jayaraj

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s explosive comments are not surprising to anyone who has been closely observing the opposition of India and China to western pressure for adopting climate polices contrary to the two countries’ economic objectives.

“The colonial mindset hasn’t gone,” said Modi at a Constitution Day event. “We are seeing from developed nations that the path that made them developed is being closed for developing nations… If we talk about absolute cumulative (carbon) emissions, rich nations have emitted 15 times more from 1850 till now… The per capita emission is also 11 times more in the U.S. and the EU.”

Senior ministers in the past have called out the colonial nature of climate politics. However, this is the first that Modi has publicly recalled in this context, the colonialism of the 18th and 19th centuries when Western countries denied basic rights and autonomy to India and other colonies.

Carbon imperialism is no myth. The economic success of modern western society is a fruit of the industrial era driven by fossil fuels. Even in the 21st century, all the major developed economies rely on these fuels for primary energy needs. To deny the same growth for developing countries is hypocrisy tinged with the colonialism under which fates of billions were decided by leaders of the industrialized West.

“Attempts are made to shut the path and resources for developing nations through which developed nations reached where they are today,” said Modi. “In past decades, a web of different terminologies was spun for this. But the aim has always been one to stop the progress of developing nations. The issue of environment is also being attempted to be hijacked for this purpose. We saw an example of this in the recent COP26 Summit…. Today no nation exists as a colony to any other nation. (That) doesn’t mean that (the) colonial mindset ended… Still, India is lectured on environmental conservation.”

Modi also called out Indian activists, policy makers and organizations espousing an anti-fossil stance. Blaming them for hindering progress, he said, “Sadly, we also have such people in our country who stall the development of the nation in the name of freedom of expression without understanding the aspirations of the nation. Such people don’t bear the brunt, but those mothers who get no electricity for their children bear it.”

Modi is right. Hundreds of millions in India have no access to uninterrupted electricity. What people in the developed nations take for granted is still a luxury for millions here. Mothers do manual work for hours, children lack electricity to study for their exams, and industries lose millions of dollars in damaged equipment from unreliable power. Electricity disruption even impedes medical procedures in rural hospitals. Without reliable electricity, India cannot achieve fast-paced economic growth necessary for raising 300 million people out of poverty.

Meanwhile, Indians have some of the lowest levels of per capita carbon emissions. India’s per capita emission was measured at just 1.91 tons a year (2016) while that of the U.S. was 15.52 and Canada’s, 18.58.

Besides, there is no evidence that global CO2 emissions can cause catastrophic warming. Apocalyptic predictions are projections from computer models that have proven to be faulty. These models (used by U.N. climate alarmists and others) exaggerate warming by many times as they are designed to be ultra-sensitive to human CO2 emissions. So, there is no good reason for India to give in to climate pressure from the West.

It took a long time for the leader of 1.3 billion people to call out the reeking hypocrisy of Western elites and their never-ending attempts to dictate energy policy to countries in which they are not elected. Nevertheless, Modi’s bold step to tag western leaders with a “colonialist mindset” marks an important turn in global climate politics.

Vijay Jayaraj is a Research Associate at the CO2 Coalition, Arlington, Va., and holds a Master’s degree in environmental sciences from the University of East Anglia, England. He resides in Bengaluru, India.

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Tom Halla
December 18, 2021 2:05 pm

The issue is that the green blob wants most people (not themselves, of course) to be in a mud hut level of development.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 18, 2021 3:42 pm

It’s not so much that the western elites don’t want the undeveloped world to develop, it’s more that they want every one (except themselves of course) to live an undeveloped lifestyle.

Garboard
Reply to  MarkW
December 19, 2021 5:13 am

I think it’s a kind sociopathy that makes it impossible for them to imagine what its like to Be poor .It’s totally beyond their ability to imagine . Zero empathy . Useful sociopathy .

Bryan A
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 18, 2021 4:14 pm

India should be far less concerned with Their perception of the western world and far more concerned with The Colonialistic Imperialism of their neighbor to their immediate North

Doc Chuck
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 19, 2021 12:44 am

Can Prime Minister Modi there in India really be so distant from Tibet as to be unable recognize the current Chinese colonialism in place there? And just what is his complaint with such past truly life-enhancing benefits that western colonialism widely carried, that he incongruously insists (that these utterly unattributed if no doubt Indian elephants in the room) must never be permitted to regress to their former native conditions? I mean, what after all is so proudly Asian about coal fired electric power plants? Like so many chattering politicians, this fellow enjoys a habitually self-serving relationship with the entirety of the truth.

At the same time (with due credit) he has served to expose what a double-edged sword is the reduction of CO2 by developing nations for any of the demanding western elitists who otherwise want to feel innocent of their selectively regrettable notions of the eventual outcomes of preceding global relationships as they themselves now ironically suppress those they imagine to be in their charge on such insupportable grounds.

Andrew Jones
Reply to  Doc Chuck
December 20, 2021 2:21 am

Can Prime Minister Modi there in India really be so distant from Tibet as to be unable recognize the current Chinese colonialism in place there?”

States have interests, not friends.

Iain Russell
Reply to  Doc Chuck
December 20, 2021 4:41 pm

Double plus good!

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 20, 2021 10:22 pm

A very large part of this is the dictatorial mindset that ultimately accompanies all Leftist-think, the belief that only Socialist governments have the right to make decisions. The depth of this was apparent in National Socialist Germany, with its ration cards, replacemennt of all clubs & societies with state organizations (e.g., replacing Boy Scouts with Hitlerjugend). You couldn’t even rent a room without reporting it to the police. All power was concentrated in the all-powerful central government.

Rud Istvan
December 18, 2021 2:11 pm

A rather definitive ‘not only no, but hell no’ by Modi on the Paris accord.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Rud Istvan
December 18, 2021 3:19 pm

Very much so. One of a rapidly vanishing group of sensible leaders.

Ron Long
Reply to  Rud Istvan
December 18, 2021 5:10 pm

So if India and China say no to the Paris Accord the rest of the world can only damage their economies by silly Net Zero ideas, but cannot decrease those evil (plant food) CO2 emissions which are scheduled to increase significantly. Forget about it.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ron Long
December 18, 2021 6:46 pm

And India and China are not the only ones. I think we can include Africa, and all undeveloped nations, in that camp, too.

I wonder why they don’t ever question the totally inadeqate foundation on which this entire CO2 hoax is based? All these CO2 crisis claims are not based on any evidence. Undeveloped nations should ask to be shown what these CO2 crisis claims are based on. They should question “the science”, because “the science” is all based on unsubstantiated assumptions and guesswork. Nothing more.

Undeveloped nations should say to the the United Nations: Prove it! Prove there is a need to regulate CO2.

It’s hard to believe the insanity has gone this far. But it looks like some pushback is coming now.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 18, 2021 7:22 pm

It’s hard to believe the insanity has gone this far. But it looks like some pushback is coming now.

Tom, I think these leaders have just discovered there is nothing in it for them, regardless of the 30+ year hoax, the promises have all been as empty as the science. The increased CO2 has proven to be a greater benefit than menace.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rory Forbes
December 19, 2021 8:32 am

I think you are exactly right, Rory.

oeman 50
Reply to  Ron Long
December 18, 2021 7:45 pm

Excellent point, Ron. The US climate “czar” has said that all of the developed counties could stop emitting CO2 entirely and it would not be enough to escape CO2 Armageddon. They are obviously not going to join in, so mitigation is the best course. At least it helps to guard against the effects to severe weather (NOT climate).

Joao Martins
Reply to  oeman 50
December 19, 2021 6:34 am

… so mitigation is the best course. At least it helps to guard against the effects to severe weather … )

If you call that “mitigation” you are tacitly accepting the catastrophist premises that there is some kind of “evil” out there. Nature is neither good nor evil: it is nature.

Avoiding the consequences of weather events is called good engineering, good urban and landscape management: it is a rational, science based procedure addressing the conditions of the place where we live.

We “mitigate” evils. But the correct answer of civilization is, how to “avoid” them to happen (by scientifically studying and understanding the conditions and risk of their occurrence). Example: we should notmitigate” the California fires: we should “prevent” them to happen uncontrolled (as they have made successfully for many decades; and the system of forest management could be further improved).

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Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Joao Martins
December 19, 2021 2:25 pm

I think you and he are saying the same thing.
Let’s build structures that will withstand known extremes of weather so no matter what happens we are prepared for anything.
Nothing wrong with that.

The November rains in BC were a record, but so what. Doesn’t matter if that was a result of climate change or was just weather. The resultant flood levels were much lower than those that resulted from spring runoff in 1896 and 1948, spring floods that are guaranteed to come again.
So this record rain produced a non-record flood level that showed that all the warnings of the last two decades regarding inadequate BC flood infrastructure were correct.

And they didn’t fix it and are now using this record rain but non-record flood to blame anyone but themselves

As always.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
December 20, 2021 4:11 am

Yes, we were thinking the same thing, I suppose.

But words matter. Inaccurate expression is often used as a target to weaken the opposite postion.

markl
December 18, 2021 2:16 pm

Sometimes the best defense is a better offense. The notion that industrialized countries conspired to hold back developing nations is absurd.

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  markl
December 18, 2021 2:55 pm

Denying access to inexpensive fossil fuels for developing nations is absolutely holding them back.

Denying GMO crop options to nations with large populations of starving people is absolutely holding them back.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
December 18, 2021 3:47 pm

PI, the India GMO thing is a self inflicted wound. The only GMO crop approved by India for planting in India is cotton—which isn’t food.
No western nation (mainly US) has ‘denied’ any GMO crop to India.
Please research more and post correct facts, not I’ll-informed emotes.

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Rud Istvan
December 18, 2021 6:42 pm

The EU has used all kinds of pressure on poor African nations to not adopt GMO crops that IMHO would aid in feeding a starving populace.

https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2021/11/uk-mulls-break-from-eus-restrictive-crop-biotechnology-rules-to-gain-an-edge-in-international-trade/

“Many countries, particularly African nations, with the exception of South Africa, have adopted the EU-driven process-based approach to regulating GM products. This is partly due to a desire to maintain favorable trade terms that facilitate agricultural exports to the EU, the report finds.”

I don’t understand what “incorrect fact” I posted. Unless you think usage of the word “denying” is too strong to describe the risk of being cut off from your main trading partners?

buggs
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
December 18, 2021 10:20 pm

They did the same with DDT to the point of restricting any use of DDT in African nations, up to and including DDT as a space spray in domiciles. Because you just know the Africans would use it on their crops so we can’t risk that. If we kill a few million African’s well, that’s just the price of retaining our business. [/sarc]

Joao Martins
Reply to  Rud Istvan
December 19, 2021 6:58 am

No, Rud, you are wrong: actually, that “self inflicted wound” resulted to compliance to pressures articulated with an “or else…” clause (see Pillage Idiot’s comment). I have no numbers, perhaps not “mainly US” as you say, and my guess goes to agree with you. But that does not apply to the EU; and certainly to many American or US-based (and financed; privately, of course) ONGs.

I understand the talk of China and India during the last two decades as lip-service to some European (state) and American (private; before Kerry) pressures, to “buy time” to start their industrial and economic development on sustainable grounds. But for China that process is already finished, so they can get rid of the need to enter the chorus of green EU (and liberals of USA), they can now assert whhat their interests are. India, as a consequence of its very sui generis political system, is somewhat late in that “emancipation” process, but it seems to be slowly, but firmly, advancing with prime-minister Modi.

Now, and I must state again that I have no numbers, it would be interesting to put those green pressures in relation to the trade (raw materials, foodstuffs, etc.) and to evaluate the amount of cost reduction for the importers that has been achieved by those pressures. And, on the other hand, the amount of “underdevelopment” of the exporters that was needed to maintain that process going on. I would not be surprised if it would show out as something like what was called “neo-colonialism” 40 or 50 years ago, conveniently desguised with modern clothes and newspeak…

Underdevelopment, slower development, means lower salaries, lower cost of products and raw-materials. The idiotic green extremist are just stating that: so that the “upper world” can keep its living standard, the “lower world” must remain poor or even be impoverished.

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markl
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
December 18, 2021 4:27 pm

Maybe I should have been more clear. I’m not talking about today. There was never a “conspiracy” at the turn of the 20th century to deny anyone oil. The point being the “West” didn’t gain economic superiority/growth because they hoarded the oil. The “West” took advantage of oil because of Capitalism and strong government. Today? Different story and I agree with Modi about today.

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  markl
December 18, 2021 6:51 pm

markl,

I think I read your comment in exactly the opposite meaning of your intent!

Were you dismissing the Leftist notion of a “fixed pie”? Instead of creating wealth for the entire world the West was consuming more than their share of finite resources? If so, then I think we are totally in agreement.

I am worried about the current crop of CAGW alarmists that want to fly to world conferences on their private jets while much of the 3rd world is barely above the mud hut level (as noted above).

JohnB
Reply to  markl
December 19, 2021 6:07 am

Who is talking about the turn of the century? The CAGW crowd are just the latest in a long line. Whether they were screaming about Global Cooling (caused by particulate pollution), Acid Rain, Global Warming or climate Change in general, part of the solution has always been that the Third world should not develop.

Malaria was a problem all the way to Siberia but was wiped out in the 40s, everywhere the Allies went so did DDT and Malaria was wiped out in every predominantly white nation. Shortly after that the DDT scare started and nations were pressured by the West to not use DDT. 600,000 people per year die of Malaria every year now.

I believe this is based in the idea of the “Fixed Pie” but not in the sense that the West is taking more than their share. If you believe in the fixed pie idea then the more non white people who have children and grand children means fewer resources will be available for the predominantly white grandchildren of the Western Greenies. If the resources are finite then the Greenies want to limit the availability of those resources to the third world so that they in the West can enjoy the benefits longer.

People might think I’m wrong but I challenge anyone saying that to provide something concrete these people have done for the developing world. It’s deliberate, and it’s been going on for decades.

Reply to  markl
December 18, 2021 2:58 pm

Read your history books ! we’ve always done it; because industrialized countries want to keep developing nations as customers for our products

MarkW
Reply to  saveenergy
December 18, 2021 3:45 pm

How can dirt poor countries be customers for anything?

Rich Davis
Reply to  MarkW
December 18, 2021 5:43 pm

Traditionally the idea was to buy vast quantities of cheap raw materials in exchange for a relatively small quantity of manufactured goods (that would be consumed primarily by the elites in the colonies). The imperial power would then be able to employ its local population in factories. Most of the inexpensive manufactured goods would supply the domestic market (again, disproportionately consumed by the elites). The people who mined ores or cut lumber, etc. in the colonies got very little from the bargain.

It could be argued that the British Empire was the least oppressive of the bunch, attempting to build roads and schools and generally “take up the white man’s burden”. It was still exploitation.

Ruleo
Reply to  MarkW
December 18, 2021 9:39 pm

Ask the Chinese…

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  MarkW
December 18, 2021 10:00 pm

It’s leftist unions that want to go back to the good old days of the 50s when the rest of the world was bombed into rubble and USA/British companies had a clear field

alastair gray
Reply to  markl
December 18, 2021 3:22 pm

Destroying the textile industry of India so that the mill towns of Lancashire could thrive and then selling back finished cloth. The Jute industry in Dundee too thrived by importing jute from India and selling back hessian at inflated prices.
Sort of the way that China is doing to us right now so prepare to kow-tow to your new masters.

MarkW
Reply to  markl
December 18, 2021 3:44 pm

Refusing financing for any fossil fuel based energy projects are a fact and has been agreed to by the elites of the industrialized countries.

Janice Moore
December 18, 2021 2:20 pm

“… there is no good reason for India to give in to climate pressure from [ANYONE].”

Yes!

Not. One. Piece. Of. Data.

Go, India!

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 18, 2021 3:22 pm

CORRECTON:

Sadly, it appears that Modi is completely in the tank for the solar (and other “renewables”) scammers.

“Prime Minister Narendra Modi will lay the foundation stone of the 600 MW ultra-mega solar park in Jhansi on November 19 in a move that seeks to convert the Bundelkhand region with abundant land and sunlight into a ‘solar power hub’ …

Jhansi project is one of the three ultra-mega solar parks that are proposed to be set up in the region … .”

Source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/lucknow-news/pm-modi-to-lay-foundation-of-ultra-mega-solar-park-in-up-s-jhansi-on-nov-19-101637084729950.html

The issue for him is: money.

“India can’t prioritise eliminating greenhouse gas emissions without sufficient financing from richer nations to help offset the high cost of transitioning to clean energy, according to a senior government official.”

Source: https://www.deccanherald.com/business/economy-business/india-wants-rich-countries-to-pay-more-for-green-energy-shift-1007605.html

Rats.

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Edit to my 2:20PM today comment,

Go, India! Follow the data, India!*

Run away from those solar, et al., scammers, India. Walk with your head high into the decades to come by using fossil fuels and nuclear (and hydropower). Prosperity in India depends on fossil fuel ( i.e., data-driven policy).

The flimsy “renewables” bridge Modi is coaxing you to build will only get you about 1% of the way across the chasm………. for………. before that bridge comes within 1% of reaching the other side ……………….. you will run out of………. OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY.

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*There is no data proving CO2 (much less human CO2 emissions) causes meaningfully harmful “climate change.”

Bryan A
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 18, 2021 4:30 pm

“The high cost of transitioning” is an unnecessary argument against building Unreliables. If 60% of your population has zero access to electricity then the issue Cannot be “The high cost of Transitioning” they have no current supply to be transitioned.

Their argument should instead be one of energy density vs reliability and 24/7/365 dependability. Solar only provides nameplate power from 10:00am to 2:30pm local time then quickly drops off.

Wind is the Goldie Locks source and only dependable when it’s blowing”Just Right”. Too hard and the turbines could be damaged, too soft and they won’t turn at all, too hot and the bearings could overheat, too cold and you get TEXAS.

BUT, there is no “Transition” costs to those that have no access.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Bryan A
December 19, 2021 8:55 am

Over 72% of the population of India live in villages and half of those villages have no electricity. But India is largely a tropical country and most of it receives 4-7kWh of solar radiation per square metre. This equates to around 2300 – 3000 sunshine hours per year.

So solar does make sense for many parts of the country and whilst it currently provides only 4% of India’s electricity there are plans for rapid expansion;

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Dave Andrews
December 19, 2021 9:15 am

Missed the edit. Meant to say “Solar does make some sense for many parts” etc

Janice Moore
Reply to  Dave Andrews
December 19, 2021 12:22 pm

Solar’s costs of production and maintenance (along with its often inadequate EROEI (Energy Return on Energy Invested)) make it IMPOSSIBLE for anyone but the wealthy to fund it without OPM (Other People’s Money).

That is, it is both negative ROI and EROEI.

That some of the raw materials costs are slightly decreasing is nowhere near enough for solar to break even or be cost-effective.

Before one’s investment in the solar equipment (factoring in maintenance) can generate enough energy to break even, it must be replaced.

See Ozzie Zehner here:

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alastair gray
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 18, 2021 3:23 pm

Right on Brother Modi

Bob Tisdale(@bobtisdale)
Editor
December 18, 2021 2:27 pm

Vijay, if you’re reading this cross post here at WUWT, a question (following a statement): PM Modi has been Prime Minister since 2014. Why did he wait 7 years to call out the west on this developing-nation-suppressing, anti-fossil-fuel nonsense?

Regards,
Bob

Smart Rock
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 18, 2021 3:16 pm

Bob – Allow me to speculate – from my usual position of knowing absolutely nothing about the subject. Could it be that Mr. Modi has belatedly come to the conclusion that the multi billions he was led to expect, as part of the price of trashing his country’s energy infrastructure, are not going to come his way?

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Smart Rock
December 18, 2021 3:20 pm

That rock may be smarter than it looks

alastair gray
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 18, 2021 3:24 pm

Climate slush fund perhaps?

Janice Moore
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 18, 2021 3:44 pm

Hi, Bob,

Good to see you. I hope you are well.

Wish you were still submitting articles full of your excellent data analysis, careful logic, and dry wit to WUWT. How about some “re-prints?” MANY of your ENSO and other articles are still very current and would provide high quality climate education for new people and memory refreshment to the rest of us. (And do mention your excellent e books found online at major booksellers and here: https://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/ , e.g., “Who Turned on the Heat” and “Climate Models Fail” 🙂).

And, most of all, I wanted to wish you a very
🎇 🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS! 🎄 🎇

Your friend,

Janice

Bob Tisdale(@bobtisdale)
Editor
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 19, 2021 1:56 pm

Helloooo, my friend Janice. Good to see you’re still at it.

I am well, despite the local, state and federal governments’ efforts to undermine my health and sanity. The cave I live in is tollerable: cool in the summer and not too cold in the winter. (Betcha many reading this think I’m kidding when I say cave.)

I hope you are well also.

A MERRY CHRISTMAS back atcha.

Regards,
Bob

Janice Moore
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 19, 2021 4:25 pm

Dear. Bob. A literal CAVE?? Oh, I am so sorry… . Why isn’t your family (the ones you helped remodel their beach home, for instance…) doing something better for you????? At least, a manufactured home or small stick-built dwelling in someone’s large backyard?? If I had ANY means of helping you, I would.

Suggestion: privately inform Anthony of your housing troubles. He may be able to ask around. OR, put out a “Please, help!” post on WUWT. When I let people know over 3 years ago that I am (yes, still am…) living in a shed with no heat and no water, 2 commenters privately contacted me to offer shelter. It wasn’t practical to take advantage of their offers, but YOU may have better results. The WUWTers are (many, of them, I mean) generous spirited, kind, people. Some are that and ALSO able to help. DO try. Living in a cave …… 😥 You deserve better….. you’ve done so much for the truth, here, I hope that some HERE will reach out….

I just may post a big BOB TISDALE NEEDS HELP!! comment on threads as they are posted (people seem to largely stop reading threads after about 36 hours….).

In the meantime, I will be praying for you!!

Take care.

Janice

Bob Tisdale(@bobtisdale)
Editor
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 20, 2021 5:20 am

Cave? It’s a first floor apartment with two great big rocks on either side of the front door. Looks like a cave entrance, Janice.

Thank you for your concerns, though.

Regards,
Bob

Janice Moore
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 20, 2021 4:23 pm

Phew! Thank you for letting me know, Bob. Shed a few tears over that one. Take care.

Vijay
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 18, 2021 9:06 pm

Bob, in my understanding, his administration has always been against Paris. His chief economic adviser even called for a coal coalition. The home minister has always insisted that coal is the pillar of the economy. Modi and Xi play the double game – talk all Climate gospel are international events but use fossil fuel for domestic energy needs. They found that it is a good way for them to continue using coal. But this year, the coal shortage and the subsequent energy scare would have really pushed him to say these statements.

Bob Tisdale(@bobtisdale)
Editor
Reply to  Vijay
December 19, 2021 1:37 pm

Thanks for the replay, Vijay.

Regards,
Bob

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 18, 2021 9:53 pm

I think COP 26 was very clearly Modi telling the west to shove it by demand a $Trillion up front just to keep talking.

It quickly shut them up and good on him for doing so

Show me the money arsehats or shut up

Joao Martins
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 19, 2021 7:28 am

Perhaps the answer to your question is “Trump”.

Please read my comment to Rud Istvan December 19, 2021 6:58 am.

During Trump, Modi had a (silent) ally; the EU verbiage is just that, verbiage: no money, no power (military or other), just ideologic “persuasion” through convincing the local elites to become green. So Modi paying lip-service to the EU leaders was, from the begining, a non-compromise: if he failed, no consequences. In the meantime, business as usual.

This bought time to start some structural economic projects: to these facts, Trump remained silent, of course.

Now India’s position is somewhate stronger (better anchored in internal development). But now there is Kerry and all the court of Biden. I am not American and I don’t have all the needed information but, judging from the public declarations, Biden’s administration is week, both internally and internationally; nevertheless, the USA has power, and has it in the Indian neighborhood, and has interests in that area. Most probably, the USA is in a stronger position (than that of the EU) to ask for the respect of what is declared or agreed. So my interpretation of Modi’s statements is that he feels strong enough to state clearly its position of not assuming any compromise that can affect the soverain decision of his country in matters regarding its development and welfare. (even more as it seems that the winds are changing and next year’s USA elections will bring some novelties).

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joao Martins
December 19, 2021 8:51 am

“but, judging from the public declarations, Biden’s administration is weak, both internally and internationally”

This is true and Biden is even weaker today as U.S. Senator Joe Manchin said this morning he will not vote for Biden’s “Build Back Better” spending bill. I guess that means AOC won’t be hiring 300,000 Climate Change Brownshirts afterall.

Modi, it seems to me, is just looking at things realistically, and saying it out loud. More power to him, and to the people of India.

Modi should question the very basis of the CO2 crisis. There’s fertile ground there, and it would benefit India to show just how much uncertainty there really is in climate science. The uncertainties are big enough to drive a truck through. Get in that truck, Modi ! Challenge the whole premise!

Joao Martins
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 19, 2021 10:13 am

I agree. I believe he always saw the things realistically and that now he is saying it out loud. I would guess that he will only engage in that fight if he will be forced to: he will go on his path steadily, without discussing what deos not deserve our attention and what would be a useless waste of time and energy.

By the way, by stating his objectives he is actually “challenging the whole premise”, as you say. Because that climate idiocy has no theoretical answer that we can reach in a discussion: its solution only can be practical. So, burning coal, developping the country, etc., is the way to answer the question: do it, and see the results. Like in a physical or chemical experiment.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joao Martins
December 20, 2021 5:04 am

“By the way, by stating his objectives he is actually “challenging the whole premise”, as you say.”

Yes, I would agree with that. I would just like to see him go farther and challenge “the science”. 🙂

Vuk
December 18, 2021 2:28 pm

Another tremor in the government of the old colonials.
Frost hit the BoJo’s cabal of yes men/women
Lord Frost quits,’disillusioned’ by the cost of Net Zero green agenda, Covid Plan B restrictions and vaccine passports.
Omnishamles at the centre as the BoJo appoints Pepa-pig as the newest member the Cabinet.

alastair gray
Reply to  Vuk
December 18, 2021 3:24 pm

Pork barrel politics Nothing new to Bojo

M Courtney
Reply to  Vuk
December 18, 2021 5:10 pm

Sadly, the loss of Lord Frost (a nutter but a sincere nutter) means that the Troubles are more likely to resume.

The Crooked Clown may or may not be a nutter but he’s so inconsistent it’s impossible to know. So it’s also impossible to do a deal with him.

The UK has a bad problem with our current leadership.

John Bell
December 18, 2021 2:40 pm

BOOM! exactly, well roared, lion. Hit the nail on the head.

commieBob
December 18, 2021 2:42 pm

It is very easy for folks to look down on other folks they deem to be inferior.

Hillbillies get no respect at all from the college educated elites. Thus it seems not to matter what happens to hillbillies.

It is completely unsurprising to me that folks in the third world notice the attitude. Is it actual colonialism? Maybe not precisely but it’s close enough.

Scissor
Reply to  commieBob
December 18, 2021 3:07 pm

Almost like a caste system.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Scissor
December 18, 2021 3:29 pm

Heh. Good one, Scissor.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Scissor
December 18, 2021 5:48 pm

Touché

Observer
December 18, 2021 3:06 pm

Perhaps we can invent a “Critical Colonialism Theory” (CCT) that can be force-fed to those pushing to end fossil fuel use. The jist would be that if you want CO2 reduced, you are a colonialist…and that’s bad….very bad….very, very bad … you need to apologize and find something else to do 😉

Vijay
Reply to  Observer
December 18, 2021 9:07 pm

I can use this actually, and may i know your name?

RickWill
December 18, 2021 3:31 pm

Developing countries have bypassed telephone copper to the house. The current wireless networks are far more materials efficient than the old copper networks. The economic solution is wireless.

There is currently no distributed means of power generation that can match a centralised power network.

In places with good sunlight or wind, using distributed weather dependent power generation and the required storage is almost an order of magnitude more materials intensive than a centralised system. Forcing the developing world to use weather dependent technology condems them to a miserable future.

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RickWill
December 18, 2021 3:34 pm

Modi is making a case to be my new hero!

I wonder what the Indian climate modellers are producing. Both Malaysia and India should have a good grasp on how monsoon controls the surface temperature. And realise the GHE is pure drivel.

Graham
Reply to  RickWill
December 18, 2021 5:53 pm

Modi is smart enough to see that his first responsibility is to his country and the well being of his people before he jumps on board the climate change train which is heading off the rails..
Unlike the majority of western countries leaders and politicians who think that climate change is an existential threat that they can use to control the use of fossil fuels.
Most western politicians cannot see that a shortage of energy will in their own countries will result in a major shift of heavy industry to Asia.
Asia will be happy to take over the manufacturing ,using coal .gas and nuclear .
Western countries will have no choice but to purchase the bulk of industrial goods from Asia if they carry on the way they are .
They might try and boycott the goods but with intermittent electric power supply at exorbitant rates their manufacturing will be squeezed .
Good on Modi for telling it how it is and standing up to the hypocrisy of many western nations leaders .

Rich Davis
Reply to  RickWill
December 18, 2021 5:58 pm

As with Putin, you’d be well advised to welcome actions that are good without necessarily embracing the man.

Vijay
Reply to  RickWill
December 18, 2021 9:09 pm

My personal assessment says monsoons have no climate signature. If anything rains are increasing. Mind you, it doesn’t take long for our water reservoirs to become completely dry in summer

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Vijay
December 18, 2021 9:47 pm

Never been to India
Hope to some day
I work in calgary with many Gujarati origin businessmen
All very smart people, hard working.
I have heard them called the Scots of India

RickWill
Reply to  Vijay
December 18, 2021 10:19 pm

monsoons have no climate signature.

Monoons ARE the climate signature. They are responsible for limiting the surface temperature. Once atmospheric water reaches 45mm, the atmosphere goes into monsoon mode and that controls the level of surface insolation. It is very powerful temperature regulating process.

Monsoon over oceans limit the maximum temperature to an annual average of 30C.

The fact the monsoons are observed means the surface temperature is still being regulated. It has always been thus and will remain so while tropical oceans exist.

n.n
December 18, 2021 3:36 pm

The bigotry of Antico colonialism. They’re not so green to take a knee.

Robert of Texas
December 18, 2021 3:50 pm

This really isn’t comparable to colonialism…the green-elite are trying to destroy the Western country’s wealth and prosperity as well as denying it to developing nations. India can just ignore the green mental health issue and march on. Now if their own people want to believe this nonsense, that is now their problem.

So all sensible people coming together and defeating the green-disease makes sense, rather than to divide over it between east and west.

M Courtney
Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 18, 2021 5:13 pm

But it’s the West’s duty to take up the White Man’s Burden.
We can, so we should.
How can that be called colonialist?

Walter Sobchak
December 18, 2021 5:40 pm

Well, he is right, you know.

Don’t forget Africa, they are even further behind the 8-ball than India is.

John the Econ
December 18, 2021 7:05 pm

Marie Antoinette Progressivism: Keep the third world poor and dependent, like they’re supposed to be.

Patrick Hrushowy
December 18, 2021 7:25 pm

In Canada we call it eco-imperialism, …being a former colony helps us understand Modi’s position.

When Maurice Strong (a Canadian) launched the world on the anti-carbon crusade many years ago it was about finding a way to collapse western industrialization. There is no way the elite would want the developing world to simply step in with their own industrialization. Its all part of Agenda 21. Now those same folks are tying the economic devastation of COVID 19 lockdowns into the plan and want us all to be part of the Great Reset to Build Back Better.

J.R.
December 18, 2021 7:37 pm

I hope leaders across Asia and Africa pick up Modi’s message and tell the eco-tyrants in the West to go fly a kite.

Duncan MacKenzie
December 18, 2021 7:58 pm

He’s not wrong.

We cut down all our temperate rainforests in Europe and North America already. Let’s do our best to stop the brown and black people from cutting down their rainforests and turning the land into productive agriculture.

We pulled our civilisation out of subsistence farming by mining coal. Let’s do our best to stop the brown and black and yellow people from using coal to escape poverty.

All Green policy is designed to keep the colored people poor so they can’t effectively compete against white children.

gringojay
Reply to  Duncan MacKenzie
December 18, 2021 8:57 pm

White devils & their spawn never rest!

gringojay
Reply to  gringojay
December 19, 2021 11:19 am

Just in time for Xmas:

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Paul Johnson
December 18, 2021 9:00 pm

At the height of the British Empire, one popular justification for colonial rule was that their superior culture was obligated to rule lesser peoples and lead them out of ignorance and disorder. As Modi has suggested, this philosophy is alive and woke today among the world’s self-appointed climate elites. They presume to lead the unwashed deplorables of the 3rd world into the shining light of truth and equity by virtue of their moral supremacy. It’s now the Woke Human’s Burden.

gringojay
Reply to  Paul Johnson
December 18, 2021 10:50 pm

None-the-less the 1st Indian elected to the British Parliament House of Commons was able to happen back in 1892. He was Naoraji, born in Bombay and among the originators of the Indian National Congress.

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Redge
December 18, 2021 11:03 pm

#eco-colonialism #endeco-colonialismnow

Joseph Zorzin
December 19, 2021 3:11 am

duh… and here I thought wind and solar is cheaper than fossil fuels! If it was, then Modi wouldn’t mind so much- but how much open space is available in India? Can’t be much room for massive solar/wind farms

bonbon
December 19, 2021 3:12 am

The reason for the delay is Modi has been promoting the OSOWOG – One Sun One World One Grid, as a counter to China’s BRI – The Belt and Road Initiative.

Both China and India were humiliated at the hands of the British Empire.

The motto is not new – The Sun Never Sets – now I wonder where we heard that before?

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Richard Page
Reply to  bonbon
December 19, 2021 4:04 am

The empire on which the sun never set was the Spanish Empire and successors (1492-1976). There – glad to be of help to you.

bonbon
Reply to  Richard Page
December 19, 2021 8:06 am

India was the Emerald in the Crown, Sudan the Ruby.
Why does the Sun Never Set in the British Empire?
God would’nt trust them in the dark.

Bruce Cobb
December 19, 2021 4:59 am

To an extent, he’s right. There is enormous hypocrisy amongst the putrid, humanity-hating GangGreen. And yet Modi is all aboard the Climate choo-choo, which makes him a hypocrite as well. He is certainly no friend of skeptics/climate realists. More of a fiend really.

Richard M
December 19, 2021 5:05 am

India, China, etc. need to quit playing the game. They need to come right out and tell the truth. There is no evidence of any dangerous greenhouse warming,

https://woodfortrees.org/graph/uah6/from:1997/to/plot/uah6/from:1997/to:2014/trend/plot/uah6/from:2015/to/trend

The latest data from the CERES satellites show a 1.5% reduction in clouds that correlates very well to the recent warming seen in the satellite data above. It also correlates to the Pacific Decadal Oscillation moving into its warm phase around 2/2014.

The CERES equipment also measures the energy entering and leaving the atmosphere. At the same time the cloudiness decreased there was a significant reduction in the amount of solar energy being reflected away. Makes perfect sense. In fact, it was more than enough energy to account for all that warming seen after 2014.

It sure looks like the warming since 2014 was natural. That would mean there was no greenhouse warming the last 8 years, and as we know from the hiatus/pause, there wasn’t any prior to 2014 going all the way back to 1997. That’s 25 years without any greenhouse warming.

Throw that in the faces of people telling India they need to stop burning coal.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard M
December 19, 2021 9:02 am

India should definitely question the climate change consensus. It wouldn’t stand up to scrutiny.

Garboard
December 19, 2021 5:07 am

“ the west “ couldn’t find a spokesperson more condescending , disapproving , and patrician than John Kerry . His lack of intelligence is balanced by his total self righteousness.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Garboard
December 19, 2021 9:05 am

Kerry is a disaster. The whole Biden administration is a disaster.

December 19, 2021 5:34 am

Well said Narendra Modi!

Iain Russell
December 20, 2021 4:41 pm

Hong Kong is a colony of China, Modi Sahib!

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