By P Gosselin on 28. November 2021
At FaceBook, Dane Peter Bardland presents a chart and commentary on Germany’s upcoming rapid nuclear power phaseout.
By the end of 2022, the government will have shut down another 6 plants with a total (baseload) capacity of 8.54 gigawatts!
Chart: Presented by Peter Bardland
Yesterday we commented here that Germany will in fact be shutting down all the baseload power sources, which ironically kept the country from blacking out in 2021 because wind and solar power failed to deliver as expected.
“Disaster playing out”…”pretty crazy”
Bardland writes:
In just over a month, Germany will close 3 of its newest and best nuclear power plants and more than 4050 MW of electricity will disappear from northern Europe’s power grid. 4050 MW is equivalent to the average electricity consumption of all of Denmark.
It will put supply security further under pressure and them choosing to do so in the middle of winter is pretty crazy.
Not only will the 4050 MW of shut off nuclear power lead to more CO2 emissions, but it will cause much more pollution from the burning of biomass and fossil fuels. Next winter, Germany will close the last 3 nuclear power plants, also 4000 MW.
Anyone who has followed the energy and climate political debate, even superficially, over the last 10-20 years can see that Germany, Denmark and other ‘green crazy countries’ are doing it vigorously AGAINST what logic and science dictates.
We see a slow disaster playing out with The Greens in the lead role as the crazy villain, hell-bent in their eagerness to wipe out life and prosperity.
(PS. Buy warm clothes, food, water and candles, for the coming winter).”
On top of the baseload power shutdown madness, German Health Minister Jens Spahn said he favored a one-year complete lockdown of unvaxxed Germans. There’s definitely something in someone’s water.
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Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, Merkel’s predecessor, was promptly employed by Putin as his Western energy supply emissary after he was dumped from Germany’s government Bundestag in a no confidence vote.
Schroeder, who is likely insanely rich by now, is still a Putin confidante and an important person in Russia’s energy industry.
If I was German I might be asking myself just whose interests are Schroeder’s old buddies in the German government serving. But this would all just be speculation, of course.
Schroeder and his party engineered the no confidence vote in 2005 in order to have early elections before the standard 4 yr term was up.
The end result was SPD was back in government but as they had 1 seat less than the Union parties were the junior party in government
Let’s have some fun first with a lady punk rocker for the Merkel’s choice of music for her leaving party
https://youtu.be/RpWKrIxi2GY
my new favorite entertainer
Odd that this is happening when many are just beginning to realize that humanity is in trouble and nuclear power is the only energy source that will allow mankind to keep from falling off a cliff in history. Those working on fusion reactors had better step up their game because we don’t have many more years before we see societal collapse without this solution.
What brought that government down was using simply a copy of Blair’s New Labour, Die Neue Mitte, a manifesto written in London by Mandelson (The Third Man). The parties have never recovered.
Schroeder on Gazprom’s board is obviously now working in Germany’s interest, oil. Even the Soviet was a reliable partner all through the Cold War.
Biden, and Trump are not working in Germany’s interest, nor even US voter’s interests (Trump for a short time with London’s Russiagate at his heels). In whose interests is Blair for?
Schroeder isnt on Gazprom board
He is on the Russian-German Nordstream AG pipeline company board and is chairman
Soon after stepping down as chancellor, Schröder accepted Gazprom’s nomination for the post of the head of the shareholders’ committee of Nord Stream AG: Gazprom is sole shareholder.
So I think part of the delay of this vital NordStream 2 is actually partisan. Shades of the GOP and DEM merrygoround.
Told you so in 2002 and more specifically in 2013 – 8+ years ago.
We are governed by scoundrels and imbeciles.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/31/blind-faith-in-climate-models/#comment-1130954
AN OPEN LETTER TO BARONESS VERMA, OCTOBER 31, 2013
By Allan MacRae, B.A.Sc.(Eng.), M.Eng.
[excerpt]
So here is my real concern:
IF the Sun does indeed drive temperature, as I suspect, Baroness Verma, then you and your colleagues on both sides of the House may have brewed the perfect storm.
You are claiming that global cooling will NOT happen, AND you have crippled your energy systems with excessive reliance on ineffective grid-connected “green energy” schemes.
I suggest that global cooling probably WILL happen within the next decade or sooner, and Britain will get colder.
I also suggest that the IPCC and the Met Office have NO track record of successful prediction (or “projection”) of global temperature and thus have no scientific credibility.
I suggest that Winter deaths will increase in the UK as cooling progresses.
I suggest that Excess Winter Mortality, the British rate of which is about double the rate in the Scandinavian countries, should provide an estimate of this unfolding tragedy.
EUROPE’S ENERGY CRISIS ABOUT TO WORSEN AS WINTER ARRIVES
By Rachel Morison On 11/28/2021
LONDON (Bloomberg) –Energy prices in Europe are repeatedly breaking records even before winter really kicks in, and one of the most damaging cost crunches in history is about to get worse as the temperature starts to drop.
A super price spike in the UK last month forced some industrial companies to cut production and seek state aid, a harbinger for what could play out widely in Europe just as it contends with a resurgence of the coronavirus. For governments, it could mean tension with neighboring countries by moving to protect supplies. For households, it could mean being asked to use less energy or even plan for rolling blackouts.
doomsayers are always wrong
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/27/germany-totally-kills-coal-will-likely-end-up-in-the-dark-without-heat-and-light/
drastic measures are always taken to avoid manufactured doom
Yes, though coal became so popular in October that it hit ~$240 when $45 is about a 10 year average for that time of year.
And re “doom never happens”, well that’s sort of true and sort of not true, if you look at what has happened to the electron supply in India and China over the last 3 months. In fact the Chinese grid management agency recently announce that a lack of sufficient supply was likely to continue until spring, and that major electron consumer heavy industries would be closed down in the interim.
That seems kinda doomy, if that was happening in the west now it would be an all-consuming crisis.
In China, meh.
Though I do generally agree with mosh that doom predictions almost always fail to come up with the goods, things get managed, mostly.
Germany are unnecessarily taking a huge risk here though, but if they think the risk of their current nuclear tech is high, in a country that does not want any 300 year exclusion zones (let’s face it, Fukushima drove the policy to shutdown nuclear in Germany) then that’s up to them.
But I would have built more hydrocarbon plants, instead of the non-renewable-unaffordable-unreliable boondoggles of wind and solar. Plus diversified energy sourcing and German energy investment, away from the geopolitical leverage of Russia.
Alarmists are always telling us that their predictions won’t be coming true for 100 years or more.
On the other hand, they declare that anyone else’s predictions that don’t come true by the following morning have been proven false.
Steve, as usual, doesn’t read what he posts. The march to freezing-in-the-dark won’t be complete until 2038. On that basis, the jury is still out. Assuming they can maintain that level of stupidity; they may yet recover from this Energiewende madness.
In the meantime, let’s just see where the nuke shutdowns lead them.
With the very real imminent confrontation between the EU and Russia over the Ukraine, and given that the weaponisation of Russian gas supply would certainly be an early lever pulled, my suggestion is that even more coal than the present surge will be the result. And, if Allan is correct, and we are sliding towards the temperatures of the 60s, then things are going to look decidedly bleak for the ambition to eliminate fossil fuels in Germany.
doomsayers are always wrong
Wouldn’t that then also apply to the climate doomsayers?
Yeah, Mosher plays both sides, cuz he’s just so sooper smart!
nuclear plants are harder to bring back
https://stopthesethings.com/2021/04/25/big-backpedal-a-week-after-shutting-its-coal-fired-plants-germany-forced-to-reopen-them/
So you are admitting your wrong Steve that is a big change.
As we predicted, in 2002 and 2013:
RARE, HEAVY NOVEMBER SNOW TRAPS BRITS IN PUB FOR THIRD NIGHT AS ARCTIC BLAST ENGULFS MUCH OF EUROPE
November 29, 2021 Cap Allon
Prof Fritz Vahrenholt: “It’s now obvious that the IPCC models are not correctly reflecting the development of atmospheric temperatures.”
Told you so, 19 years ago.
RECORD LOWS GRIP EUROPE: SWEDEN REGISTERS -37.4C (-35.3F), UK SCHOOLS FORCED TO SHUT, + BIGGER FREEZE INBOUND
November 30, 2021 Cap Allon
Dr. Hajo Smit: “There is clear cut solar-climate coupling and a very strong natural variability of climate on all historical time scales. Currently I hardly believe anymore that there is any relevant relationship between human CO2 emissions and climate change.”
Colder…
LOW TEMPERATURE RECORDS CONTINUE TO FALL ACROSS EUROPE, AUSTRALIA’S NSW SUFFERS COLDEST NOVEMBER ON RECORD, + PINATUBO ERUPTS
December 1, 2021 Cap Allon
Pinatubo’s 1991 eruption caused global temps to fall 0.6C. Big eruptions have been linked to extended spells of low solar activity, such as we’re experiencing now. With temps already dropping, a VEI 6+ is the last thing we need.
Allan’s note: At this time, the Pinatubo eruption is reported to be minor.
Ironic that Germany is now the only country in the “west” that has relations with Russia not coloured by Russophobia.
The CDU were very cunning , the first shutdown occurs as the new SPD led government takes office. Of course no need to fret as SPD were a partner in those previous CDU led governments
Germany’s Energiewende is continuing on the suicidal tendency that the country displayed in the closing stages of the Second World War under the GloriousLeader Herr Hitler. The coming energy disaster might be not quite as serious but should still be memorable for the Germans.
Coal is providing 39% of Germany’s electrical grid energy requirements as I type. Nuclear is 11%.
There’s no way they can shut nuclear down.
I’m surprised at the timing of the shut drown …awful cold if you have a delay
This is crazy,where the he!! do they think their electric power will come from to replace these nuclear power plants .
It really looks like the inmates are in charge of the asylum.
How many power cuts and blackouts will the Germain population put up with untill the realize that they are being ruled by green fanatics .It will be an interesting watch and it should deter other countries following suit .
Yup, but it won’t deter other countries from following suit, it will encourage them. Just watch.
With these people, when — never if — their policies fail it just means that they need to keep implementing the policy, but with more force. For example: Wind and solar have caused an energy shortage and prices to rise, so the obvious answer is to have even more wind and solar energy. Another example: Lockdowns and vaccines haven’t slowed the spread of a coronavirus, so the obvious answer is to lockdown harder and force more people to get the shot.
Also, there are many indoctrinated worshipers of the politicians who create the bad policy, which means that no matter how bad things get, many will still vote for things to get worse. Democracy isn’t a path to liberty because you can brainwash enough people to vote for nothing but trouble for themselves. The last election I asked several people to name 3 things the politician they supported did to make our lives better. The only people who even named 1 thing were people who supported Trump. Everybody else couldn’t even tell me one single thing their politician did to improve our lives. And yet, they still blindly supported that person, a person they admitted has done absolutely nothing for them. They continue to vote for the people who do nothing but make their life worse.
If there is any available to sell, the replacement power will come from nuclear powered France and coal powered Poland.
It will also come from fully ramping up Germany’s remaining coal plants.
Yes, don’t take the bait peeps! When disaster threatens, the Green government will quietly ramp up coal “temporarily”.
Then griff and Anakin (Lord Mosher of the Dark Side) will be back here saying “see, no problem shutting down the nukes”.
It’s not until they actually shut down and decommission the coal plants that the winter blackout disasters will happen.
In the meantime the two places to focus attention on will be Germany’s year-over-year CO2 emissions and their average cost per KW-hr. (Assuming that trustworthy data will be available).
Germany has a net export surplus to Poland.
And this will still be true after Germany shuts down the rest of it’s nuclear and coal plants?
BTW, while it may be true that Germany currently exports electricity to Poland, they are also having to pay the Poles to take it.
The bank loan umbrella export. Only available when the Poles don’t need it, and not available if they do.
You are a tosser Grief
Once these Nuclear plants are shut down Germany will be scrambling for electricity from where ever they can get it .And it goes without saying that they will not be able to generate solar at night or wind power on windless days .
These nuclear power plants are BASE load and the politicians are ditching them .l
Put your brain into gear before your feeble fly by comments
Baseload.
It’s like the greens just can’t get their heads around that concept.
No amount of wind and solar can replace baseload.
They now have 30,000 windturbines. They can’t supply baseload.
If they had 100,000 turbines, they would not be able to supply baseload.
The greens are absolutely crazy.
They have the HIGHEST electricity prices in the world.
LOL
Germany has a net export surplus to Poland.
This is true. Germany has exported 66 divisions, 6 brigades, 9000 guns, 2,750 tanks, and 2,315 aircraft to Poland, all without asking for a single Zloty in payment.
Oh, wait…that was in 1939….
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.greentechmedia.com/amp/article/germanys-stressed-grid-is-causing-trouble-across-europe
Do you mean this type of electricity export?
I can understand not building new nuclear reactors given the current cost (although I’m a bit damn the torpedoes re nuclear – just build them), but I cannot understand shutting down existing reactors unless there is something wrong with them.
Many decades of anti nuclear rhetoric by Communists and Greens have created a demon in the minds of most German people.
Chernobyl helped to confirm those fears, Fukushima just sent them over the edge, it’s a mass delusion created by a political contagion.
Reality will trump their ideologies as always.
The crazy tendency against nuclear power started with the 1979 movie “China Syndrome”, which greenies still think is a documentary.
The funny thing is, that movie showed that nuclear power was safe.
The worst case event that all the protagonists had been predicting happened, and the plant shut down automatically and safely.
The movie came out 12 days before Three Mile Island accident occurred, cementing in people’s heads the idea that nuclear was dangerous.
Overlooked was the fact that nobody was even injured in the TMI accident.
The only person injured in “China Syndrome” was shot by the police.
I will predict, that shutting down base load, in a time of cooling – even if that is cyclical – will result in many more deaths than all of the nuclear related accidents in history – each year.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/sofialottopersio/2021/11/04/no-one-died-from-radiation-at-fukushima-iaea-boss-statement-met-with-laughter-at-cop26/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiguof7hr70AhWDHM0KHcycAa4QFnoECAUQBQ&usg=AOvVaw03WQpCFwalDDb8e2diEMRO&cf=1
I always thought it was interesting that after Fukushima, the Germans shutdown their nukes due to all the tsunamis in Germany.
That deal was clinched in secret the september before by exactly the parties trashed at the election. Fukushima was handy for the MSM.
As a bonus, in the US they have convinced many that the anti-nuclear fears are stoked by “Big Oil” so that young people that realize nuclear is a reasonable low-CO2 option blame the right for its failure to catch on.
They are afraid of tsunamis.
Yes, because they allways come around the corner in Germany 😀
Over a long time thé Greenies tryed to tell us, the deads in Fukushima were the result of the nuclear event.
That deal was clinched in secret the September before by exactly the parties trashed at the election. Fukushima was handy for the MSM.
Oops OSD, I hadn’t seen your comment before I added mine. Mea culpa.
TT, the first megawatt of any energy generating system is always the most expensive, with all of that capital cost to defray.
The actual cost, is the normal, end-of-life cost. For a typical nuclear set-up, without political interference, it is–along with hydro power– the least cost producer in any system. Germany has gone mad. OPEC loves this situation.
It’s probably not a coincidence that the Greens who did the Soviets’ bidding in the 70s and 80s are doing Gazprom’s bidding today.
There *IS* something wrong with them. They do not have spinning bird whoopers on them. Add those to the cooling towers and I imagine the government would like them just fine. After all, it isn’t like the government understands anything about this subject.
It is just like watching a slow car crash developing.
The Greens’ inclusion in the government and their influence on energy policy may eventually lead to a ‘ reductio ad absurdum ‘ where the effects of their policy might wake the Germans to their baleful influence.
Most Germans fell in line behind Hitler. It took some serious suffering by the German people before the reality of what they had supported set in. Not sure the German people have suffered enough yet to light the fire of reality underneath what will soon become their frozen posteriors.
Lots of EU meetings, lots of talk, agree to do nothing, stay the course, more renewables and imports.
Markit, October28,2021
The EC is not backing down. It is looking to ensure that whatever form the market takes, renewable energy remains key. “We all agree the only solution to price volatility is more renewable energy,” said Simson.
Green group European Environmental Bureau agreed in an open letter ahead of the TTE meeting noting that “the current energy prices emergency in Europe is a wake-up call for more climate action, not less” and suggested transitioning to a 100%-renewable electricity supply…
…But the EU’s “net energy import dependency” increased to 60.6% in 2019 compared with 56% in 2000, which was the highest level in the past three decades, the report found.
Vlad Grozny will be laughing all the way to GosBank.
Him or Joe Fracker
Why am I not surprised? It’s Germany, after all … so many of them will insist on being German and shooting at their own feet.
In Germany, homoeopahtic “drugs” are paid by the insurances. Germans like follow esoteric ideas.
That is because the Homeopathic founder based everything on Emmanuel Kant.
And we know how Kant is idolized. The SPD even do an annual pilgrimage to Kant’s memorial in Kaliningrad (Königsberg).
As Poet Heinrich Heine in “Religion and Philosophy in Germany” showed the Romantic Movement would make the then recent Terror in France look like a coffee shop chat.
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out-consume
Schopenhauer and Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.
There’s nothing Nietzsche couldn’t teach ya
‘Bout the raising of the wrist.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away
Half a crate of whiskey every day.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart:
“I drink, therefore I am”
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he’s pissed!
– Monty Python
Funny they mention Hume, and leave out Jeremy Bentham and his defense of Pederasty. Ask Andrew why?
It doesn’t scan or rhyme.
It repeats, though…
“‘Bout the raising of the wrist.”
Missing a line after this one.
“Socrates himself was permanently pissed”
Otherwise, big thumbs up
Yes, correct.
thanks Jeff.
It must be the German “fanatical will”, Hitler talked about. Supposedly it can overcome reality itself.
Only one thing new in Germany.
“der Wille zur Macht”, except it now acquired a subtle nuance, they are phasing out “kraft”.
according to German philosophy,-
Kraft is primordial strength that may be exercised by anything possessing it, while Macht is, within Nietzsche’s philosophy, closely tied to sublimation and “self-overcoming”, the conscious channeling of Kraft for creative purposes.
Nietzsche’s early thinking was influenced by that of Schopenhauer.
Schopenhauer puts a central emphasis on will and in particular has a concept of the “will to live”..
Writing a generation before Nietzsche, he explained that the universe and everything in it is driven by a primordial will to live, which results in a desire in all living creatures to avoid death and to procreate.
(I include splitting the atom in this).
However, Nietsche couldn’t procreate cos he caught syphilis in a brothel, and this led to his insanity.
German greenies are against pretty much all of the above, while I suggest their syphilitic like behaviour is similar to those in the final stages of the disease,- insanity.
There’s no antidote to that condition, not even penicilin can save them.
Maybe haloperidol will?
Trace a bit further – Kant . See post and link above.
Kant the Omnipulverizer, founded the Romantic Movement. Nietzsche acknowledged Kant and especially did Hannah Arendt a hero of the so-called ¨left¨ (while being Heidegger’s lover).
It takes a poet to precisely identify this.
Kant is idolized all across the transatlantic Uni’s – look at the result!
Bingo. There are no John Lockes in the Germanic philosophical tradition, just a long series of mega state enabling monsters from Kant to Marx to the post-modernists and the current crazies behind Critical Race Theory and whatever other nonsense may be brewing in the faculty lounges of the West. Unfortunately this tradition is now endemic, and as you noted, has no antidote other than failure.
Sez you.
As the English say, nobody likes a daft Kant
Kant can’t do it as Edgar Poe put it, while the Brits have Bacon.
As terrible as this is, maybe a large number of dead Germans will help the dolts in other governments understand that reliable power is critical.
Plenty of dead Germans have always been available and dying faster thanks to the againg population.
Now there’s plenty of pressure to replace them with syrians, turkish, iraqi, sudanese…etc etc.
The German gov doesn’t car about Germans because they don’t have enough children and like to be paid a lot.
Imported labour can be bought for 1/3 of the minimum wage and they produce a favourable demographic curve.
We are a long way from the Hitlerjugend and “Triumph des Willens”.
how much compensation is being paid to these perfectly profitable goos businesses and their workers?
In 2021 the wind and solar went back to the 2019 levels… that’s all.
No disaster.
This is natural variation and would not be expected in most or indeed many years.
Natural variation, my word. You gave the game away. You’ve been sending us up all along. Good show, really enjoyed it.
That from you ?!?! Natural variation ?!?! 😀 😀
I was sure you even don’t know how to spell it. 😀
It’s the main driver of climate variation.
Fine you now accept it 😀 😀
“This is natural variation and would not be expected in most or indeed many years.”
Maybe the 10% reduction in wind speeds for European countries foreseen by the IPCC is already kicking in…
That would be unfortunate, hope we can save the planet before all the windmills stop turning.
That’s a 27% reduction in wind energy.
And there is the lie spewing liar spewing the same lies it always spews.
First off, you’ve been telling us for years that there was no such thing as natural variation, it’s all caused by CO2.
Secondly, so what if it’s caused by natural variation. It happened, therefore wind and solar have to be built out to handle it. Only in a green world is having a massive die off in the population every 10 years or so because the wind failed to blow for a few months, acceptable.
Thirdly, building out wind and solar to handle such natural variation doubles or triples the cost of an already too expensive option.
Griff, please advise us of the availability of solar electricity in 2022 so we can plan ahead.
Griffy. You really are a wit. Where’s a “t “ when you need it.
oh good ! Just what is needed.
A variation in the electric supply which is supposed to be stable or close to it.
I can’t believe this shit !
Hi Griff
You earned this today
Wait so floods in Germany are Climate change but wind pattern change is natural variation?
At least most greentards are consistent you are all over the shop.
Ther headline uses the word “slow”.
It might be more rapid than that…..
Isn’t there a famous quote in response to the question “How did you go bankrupt ?” ?
Something like “Slowly … and then very quickly !” ?
Winter 2021/2 : Germany closes the first 4GW of nuclear, but manages to “muddle through”.
Greens : You see ! No problems ! Let’s keep going !
Winter 2022/3 : Germany closes the remaining 4GW of nuclear, but manages to “muddle through”.
Greens : You see ! No problems ! Let’s keep going !
Winter 2024/5 (?) : Germany closes its last lignite-burning power plants.
Greens : Why did the lights (and heating) “suddenly” go out ???
Slightly OT..but still relevant.
We have just had Storm Arwen – where I am (semi rural NE Scotland about 10 miles from a major city) we have been without power 2.5 days. If it comes back tonight as planned, it will have been in excess of a three day outage, on the coldest days of the winter so far.
It’s only today (day 3) have the authorities declared a Major Incident – with emergency generators arriving in village squares to allow people to boil water, and also EmGens arriving at care homes.
I have been “camping” in the living room – fortunate to have a wood burning stove that can keep the core of the house tolerable, and allows me to boil water. No ice for the whiskey which is a drag though.
When the power goes down for an extended period, we are reduced to basic survival rules extremely quickly. And with the eco-loons calling the shots, things are going to get worse before they get better.
Do I believe that? A Scot who takes ice and can’t spell whisky?
He could be a migrant from the mother country – England?
He may be drinking foreign Whiskey!
Not that foreign necessarily. How about Bushmills, UK produced whiskey from within sight of the Giant’s Causeway?
If any Englishman checked they would find Whiskey means Uisce – simply water. No one told the Americans.
No coincidence why Single Malts and fresh streams are linked!
And what makes you believe I am Scottish?
Whisky Whiskey
You are making an assumption.
Irish people do live in Scotland.
Drink better whiskey, with no ice
Tan Hill Inn pub customers had a great weekend snowed in :
https://twitter.com/ovo4fev/status/1464528208188125191?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1464528208188125191%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fuk%2F541637-pub-guests-trapped-snow%2F
another total plonker post from you?
Back home in your favourite country Russia we had -17C last week and nothing stopped working.
In my other place in the Baltic, a blizzard has been hammering away at down to -15C for 3 days, but the planes still fly and the bus will still stop dead on time to take me to wherever I want.
The UK is a third world hovel, people by idiots like you and Griff, who have no idea how the rest of the world lives.
“We have just had Storm Arwen – where I am (semi rural NE Scotland about 10 miles from a major city) we have been without power 2.5 days.”
I saw a news item this morning claiming about 60 people in your area were stranded in a Pub overnight because of a large amount of snow falling there.
What’s causing your power blackout? Windmills not working properly?
Do named thunder storms get new names as they cross international boundaries?
Thats good news I think, time to buy shares in mining stocks, and shares in decommissioning companies.
The German government might even take more money in environmental and carbon taxes, especially if the re-label coal as a hazardous material.
DISASTER, WOW
chill with the alarmism youre just playing on peoples fears
Welcome back, I thought you had contract traced yourself out of existence.
The move to South Korea didn’t pan out they have lost control as well.
I bet, but Mosh was so convinced how we are sooooo wrong or at least Trump was 😉
Your comment is reminiscent of FDR:
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
The following decade demonstrated that President Roosevelt was very mistaken.
Gosselin’s article presents evidence to support the title of the commentary. If he is right, we will not have to wait a decade to verify it.
As FDR proved, the only thing we had to fear was government ineptitude.
Alarmist over climate cycles is what has spawned all the manic rush to replace reliable & affordable power with unreliable & unaffordable wind, solar & batteries.
So alarmist is clearly a most effective tool, isn’t it?
Ah yes, as every good alarmist knows, government has everything in hand and will never allow anything bad to happen ever again.
Listen to Big Brother and be happy.
good advice for the CliSciFi crowd
Can we ask if you have been out gluing or cementing yourself to roads like the rest of your mates to save the planet?
It takes a Poet, Heinrich Heine, in 1834, to shed light on what we see here – it is the Romantic Movement in full swing.
Religion And Philosophy In Germany A Fragment :
https://ia902707.us.archive.org/8/items/religionandphilo011616mbp/religionandphilo011616mbp.pdf
Many know the poetry, very few have seen this razor sharp insight. There he precisely identifies the Omnipulverizer Kant. Even predicting with hair raising accuracy what would happen 100 years later.
Kant is boring, just like you.
Did COP 26 takes Omicron mutant of China virus to Glasgow, the hotspot of UK infection?
OT
No.
Strange. I never heard of a Xi variant and Xi comes before Omicron.
I have to ask how, a country known for its engineering prowess, can be making what would appear to be such a huge mistake if there is not at least some buy in from those with the technical know-how? Are their technical leaders all saying, “this is nuts”, and the pols just go, “oh well.” What?
Even in Germany, engineering prowess can’t overcome governmental incompetence.
Germany’s Greens are having a Battle of the Bulge moment, where they delude themselves that they are winning….
Much surprise, despair and gnashing of teeth to follow….
In the UK government incompetence kept the British from becoming like the Germans.
When your government is run by economists….who can’t distinguish between necessities and commodities….and who are taught that artificially increasing the price of a commodity will cause reduced consumption…..and NOT that increased cost of necessities increases human hardship….having forgotten the most basic principle that COST is a measure of human effort expended or saved.…well, your citizens are screwed….
Stupid people people deserve to suffer from their stupidity.
Agree entirely. Unfortunately, there is likely a significant minority that fight against the stupidity who will be just as adversely affected as those who support the insanity.
Those who fight against the stupidity will probably suffer more.
Government always protects those that support it first.
Making life better for all of the population is a key role of constitutional democratic government regardless of individual brain power level. Some are more capable than others, had mentors, worked with focus, had a better starting point, or obtained better opportunities to develop.
If you separate from or ignore and denigrate the dumb, unwise and unfortunate, it doesn’t help where you live as they are not going away.
In which case what’s the point of even thinking in such terms? it’s also not smart. It’s why inclusion is essential, even when it grates on a sense of what’s deserved. Alternatively, we can recognize it’s necessary that everyone make the world better for others.
That was actually a commonplace view in the capitalist west when I was young. Now there’s a lot more counterproductive divisions and spiels against making life better for all, and severe ideological division and spiral bad policy and corruption is the result.
We need to snap out of it.
Making life better for all is supposed to be the key role of government.
Unfortunately it stopped when 50% of the population found out that it is easier to vote for politicians who promise them a free lunch, than it is to work for a living.
Yes, and they do, though stupid people can learn from harsh experiences and review what they think due the pain they experience.
No they never do.
“more pollution from the burning of biomass and fossil fuels and fossil fuels”
There is very little pollution from modern biomass power plants.
Except for – oh wait – CO2, the pollution devil incarnate
Joseph, the main issue with Drax is shipping the wood halfway around the world to burn it.
Not really. The main issue is that burning wood is far more costly than burning coal. Drax currently gets £118.54/MWh for burning wood. Coal is about $140/tonne, which gives an electricity cost of about £45/MWh before you start loading on green taxes. Of course, the way that the grid chooses to run coal capacity (only as emergency capacity) means that it often charges very high prices to cover the costs of operating in such an inefficient manner. But it is no accident that Germany has been resorting to coal – just sound economics in that at least.
Agreed, but it was the cost of logistics with wood fuel that I was getting at.
Should have been more articulate.
There is very little pollution from modern fossil fuel plants.
Hazards of biomass plants:
https://www.hetas.co.uk/wp-content/mediauploads/health_and_safety_in_biomass_s.pdf
And, the penultimate line is the most scary of the lot, particularly with the track record of Germany. Slowly freezing in the dark is one thing, but not being allowed out to scavenge a bit of firewood from the forest is even more sinister. Surely lockdown isn’t enough? Perhaps some brightly coloured symbol should be sewn onto their clothing? Perhaps they should be concentrated in camps? All for their own good, of course! Who will they come for next?
Some people are just stuck on stupid.
Meanwhile the spectacle of NATO planning to move it’s German stockpile of US thermonuclear B60’s from Büchel closer to the Russian borders.
Stoltenberg, with Merkel, replied to a question : “Of course, it’s up to Germany to decide whether the nuclear arms will be deployed in this country, but there’s an alternative to this; the nuclear arms may easily end up in other European countries, including those to the east of Germany,”
So shutting down power only, not nuclear weapons. Any movement of this stuff reminds the entire planet of Harry S Truman’s insane nuclear terrorism, and of course the Cuban Missile crisis.
Paranoia is not pretty bonbon, perhaps if you sought help you might be able to stop embarrassing yourself.
BTW, I am totally fascinated by your belief that communists can never be wrong.
Funny how Hayekians feel they can read minds – creepy. Too many seances I believe.
We will see what happens with those B60 dial-a-yield air launched gravity bombs – no crystal ball.
Irony is lost on the paranoid. First bonbon makes claims that I am reading minds, then he proclaims that the US intends to use those nuclear weapons.
In bonbon’s world, the greatest sin is opposing a communist.
Stoltenberg said they will MOVE them, did not go so far as to say USE them.
The Norwegian NATO chief is agitating – Trump said NATO was obsolete, Macron said it was brain dead.
So a zombie is playing around with B60’s ?
True of every country with Nukes 🙂
Lets not forget, that in the Cuban Missile Crisis, it was the Soviets moving the missiles
Because of the Redstones and Jupiters in Turkey right at the border targeting Moscow.
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/jupiter/
None of this is classified. JFK solved the problem, guess how?
Cuban missile crises. wasn’t that problem exacerbated by
Russia moving nukes into Cuba.
See point above – or look up Jupiter Turkey.