Guest essay by Eric Worrall
A parent is calling for an Queensland State High School teacher to be suspended, after the teacher allegedly berated and insulted the class, when the kids asked for the aircon to be switched on.
‘Get a life!’: Why Neil Breen says a Corinda teacher should be suspended
24/11/2021
NEIL BREENeil Breen is calling for the suspension of a school teacher after reports she refused to run an air conditioner.
A Brisbane father claims on November 4, a teacher at Corinda State High School told her students she would only consider hitting the ‘on’ button if the temperature hit 40 degrees.
The parent claims the teacher berated the class about their lack of interest in climate change and called them “ignorant and selfish”.
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“You know what? That teacher, she should be suspended. What an absolute, total and utter dingbat.
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Read more: https://www.4bc.com.au/get-a-life-why-neil-breen-says-a-corinda-teacher-should-be-suspended/
Corinda State High School is in Brisbane, Australia, a subtropical city with a similar climate to Austin, Texas. Brisbane experiences prolonged periods of hot, humid weather in Summer, especially in high density suburbs. Note I am not suggesting Corinda State High School would in any way condone a teacher denying air conditioning to students.
Most teachers aren’t like this. I’m hoping this might all be a huge misunderstanding, like maybe the teacher cracked a bad joke, “don’t you care about climate change?”, before switching on the aircon, which in the heat of the moment was misunderstood by students.
But regardless of the truth in this case, there does seem to be a toxic minority of teachers who believe their mission is to brainwash and bully the children entrusted to their care, teachers who go well beyond the curriculum on climate issues.
One good thing about this, she might have converted some of those kids to the non-alarmist side. They’ve had a chance to see alarmism at work.
The road to north korea is paved with climate activism and marxist indoctrinators.
I’m more concerned about racist calendar terminology; should it not been ‘Friday of colour’ today?
I thought the ‘C word’ was banned but then I can’t keep up with the ever changing woke lexicon.
According to AOC, only old farts continue to use “woke”.
Virtually nobody believes aoc.
Hmmm, but she’s at the MILF stage in the eyes of teenagers. Who is she kidding?
Nice try you unworthy pseudomarxist but still guilty of wrongthink.
The correct terminolgy is African American Friday.
For the same reason BLM is called BLM and not CLM.
Though maybe using the little n-word is now also appropriate as Biden used it a few days ago twice in a row while talking about the baseball player.
As there was no outrage,neither by white progressives nor by Hollywood nor by African-American victimhood professionals the little n-word should be safe for use now.
But i have to look it up in my woke dictionary app that is being rewritten and updated every 30 seconds with the newest pronouns,values,truths and definitions.
It’s a phantastic app.
Yesterday i have beaten the crap out of a Hindhu nazi with broken legs who was accusing islam of being intolerant and then got his body smashed by a group of muslims because he protested against the inhuman treatment of his people in Pakistan.
Today hindhuism was declared as uncriticizable
and now I’m nursing this guy and i promised him to find the nazi who has beaten up a guy with broken legs after his legs were broken by a nazi group.
Man,
you just have Robinson Crusoe(the book) banned, again.
Most likely.
*How dare Robinson Crusoe, a white man, naming and calling a person of color, a non white man;
Friday!!*
cheers
“A Brisbane father claims on November 4, a teacher at Corinda State High School told her students she would only consider…”
Well, maybe she did, maybe she didn’t. The father wasn’t there, so it is a pretty thirdhand report. But there is nothing here that says that kids were actually refused aircon.
The max temperature in Brisbane on Nov 4 was 25°C. Earlier days in the month had been no warmer.
Disingenuous comment, the temperature might have been 25C at the weather station but in the classroom in the suburbs, likely with warm damp NE winds blowing in from the ocean, there could have been a lot more uncomfortable humidity. Living not far from there, I can attest to the uncomfortable humidity that we experience even when air temperatures are not particularly high.
It’s close to Archerfield, where the temperature at 3pm 4 Nov was 23.9C, RH 49%.
BOM lists Archerfield temp hit max 26C at 14:42 on 4 Nov.
What was the humidity in the classroom? What was the class size? What room size? All factors.
Does the classroom have windows, are they operable which direction do they face, was the sun out? Seems like it would be the temperature in the classroom that matters, not out doors.
Was the classroom on the ground floor or second floor? Was the roof insulated?
G’Day jorgekafkazar,
“… ground floor or second floor?”
If you look at the single story building in the background of the photograph, that is/was the ‘old’ school. Timber frame construction with wide verandas, I’d bet, on North, East and West sides, and waist level to ceiling opening windows on the south side, and up on stumps – about 8 feet for ventilation (and termites).
I spent 1950 to ’54 at Tennyson State Primary School – in a straight line, less than two miles away from Corinda. The same layout – as were most of the schools in Queensland at the time. Air conditioning? Doors and windows open. (There was no heating either.)
Outside noise at Tennyson at that time – a few mooing cows outside the south fence. It was a one-teacher school at that time, 40 to 45 pupils, four classes, two rooms. And yes, some of the older pupils got to ‘teach’ the younger grades. Teacher trainees from the Kelvin Grove Teacher Training Collage who were to be assigned to an upcountry school were sent to us to get a feel for just what they were in for. Note: the school system in Queensland is State run with a Member of State Parliament designated as Education Minister.
Brick buildings – a whole ‘nuther story. Progress? I sometimes wonder.
It is NOT close to Archerfield at all.It is one side of the city to the other..I live in Brisbane. In fact Archerfield being a Western suburb would normally be hotter….BUT…Why would you want to argue when you weren’t there and the classroom could easily have been hot and stuffy for any number of reasons..regardless of outside temps…. Maybe the sun was shining in? Maybe it was a temporary building…one of those prefabs? The list is endless.
“I live in Brisbane.”
??? It is 8.8 km by roundabout road from CSHS to Archerfield airport. About 5km as the plane flies.
What’s with you?
If the kids called for the air con it means they were too hot.
End of story!
End of story?
Not really, a lot of these students are likely condemning the previous generations for their ‘disgusting trashing’ of the world.
But they all still expect to be ferried everywhere by car, and live in air-conditioned comfort. Whereas the generations they condemn spent a lot of time walking and living and working without air-conditioners while they studied and then designed and built the technology and infrastructure that eases every facet of modern life and gives us the time to do leisurely studies on things like climate change.
I did 5km in 49 minutes in Cleveland (to the East) yesterday. It was 23 degrees and 89% humidity. I nearly died.
Nit Pick Nick’s specialty is distraction and goal post moving.
It is a new version of what is called “the Stokes shift” in Physics and Chemistry.
Bad luck. It is a symptom of the climate change cognitive dissonance that people are “worried” about climate change but expect to put aircon on at 25C. The venerable pioneering spirit, that made Western Civilisation what it was until today, has been replaced by the climate change spirit, aka, snowflakes.
Nick do you think kids should have an air conditioned classroom?
If yes, then what is the max temperature and relative humidity?
I think in fact they have air conditioned buildings. No switches under teacher control.
Those weren’t my questions.
Most classrooms I’ve seen in Queensland have individual room controls.
Eric,
That is correct; most classrooms should have individual controls! Without the AC turned on there would be no fan blowing either, so CO2 levels would rise rapidly and the students would begin to feel lethargic!
Perhaps Nick feels that child abuse is OK when it’s done for religious reasons; just like left wing women justifying sexual abuse by their dear leaders!
Like Whoopi said; “It’s not rapey rape!”
Elementary schools where I grew up did not have AC
We just opened up the windows and there were a lot of windows in the rooms to open. We did not have AC at home either and most homes in 60’s did not have central AC. There was just a big fan to pull air through the house at nights. Not long after the “nest was empty” my parents finally installed central AC, hah.
I would agree Eric…. Nick is grasping at straws.
Brisbane schools have simple domestic split systems. The teacher has the control. I would also question if the room had windows which actually open? Many don’t.
Furthermore, 30 kids in a poorly ventilated room, after just coming in from running around during the lunch recess, or ‘big lunch’ as we call it in Brisbane, would make for some hot and sweaty kids.
Nick, are actually claiming that all involved were lying when they stated that the teacher had control of the AC switch? Or are you just desperately trying to change the subject again?
This whole reply thread to Nick is a bit of an indictment of the one-eyed viewpoint of many of us more climate-change-skeptical types.
Ridiculous, and it detracts from the more sensible scientific discussions which happen here.
The max temperature in Brisbane on Nov 4 was 25°C. Earlier days in the month had been no warmer.
Irrelevant. The kids were uncomfortable, and the teacher allegedly gave them a lecture about climate change, instead of seeing to their comfort.
I was reading the comments about the outside temperature and wondering what the relevance was. I have no knowledge about this school, but do have personal experience of Scottish school classrooms in the 1960s. These had large windows to give a well illuminated environment, the downside was the Greenhouse Effect. On sunny days the rooms would be unbearably hot, even when the outside temperature was in the low 20s. If you hd to sit in the sun you fried. There were window blinds which reduced the frying element but not the baking.
Nitpick Nick strikes again.
Nits and cherries; Nick takes his pick!
30 kids in a room inside a building designed to have aircon turned on is going to get stuffy anywhere.
Nick,
I’m a teacher in the UK. Even when it’s relatively cool outside classrooms can get very stuffy and hot due to the large number of warm bodies and electrical items such as computers, interactive whiteboards, and lights pumping out heat. In addition, the large windows, that you can’t open fully thanks to elf ‘n’ safety zealotry, act like a greenhouse.
I would love to have some aircon banging away in my classroom, but such machinery is an expense the school is not prepared to pay for.
I’ve had a science teacher scream at me because I explained to the kids about how the absorption abilities of CO2 are logarithmic (I’m a maths teacher). She shouted at me that I wasn’t allowed to teach children such facts as it “didn’t help them learn about global warming”.
I’ve also been shouted at for bringing a copy of the (relatively right wing) Daily Telegraph newspaper into the staff room. I continue to do so just for the shits and giggles.
The teaching profession is awash with hard-left zealots and I have witnessed many occasions when they have forced both their politics and their CAGW mania on the children. When the kids ask me about my politics I tell them I’m a libertarian, but emphasise to them that they must find their own political beliefs by looking at both the left and right of the political spectrum.
For my sins I spent 6 months teaching science in 1995 before global warming paranoia had really completely taken hold. The Science curriculum was so awful and lacking coherent structure that it bored even me and I said if I had to learn all the formless drivel that was the National Curriculum then I would have done something else.
Being as how I had a background in the oil Industry the head of Science asked what we should do about the Brent Spar that Shell wanted to sink in deep water. “Ghastly Mistake!” I said ” We should sink it in shallow water to rip trawl nets to pieces and give some degree of sanctuary for fish from the industrial rapaciousness of our fishing industry”. Wrong answer. I left fairly shortly thereafter with enormous sighs of relief to be out of such a ghastly profession.
If you are a dedicated teacher as I sense you are, and I was not, then I wish you all the best surviving your inquisitorial and bullying colleagues.
I’m loving your suggested solution for the Brent Spar and shafting the nasty fishing industry that is decimating the seas (I was once a scuba diver until ill health stopped me). Many thanks for your best wishes – it appears the teaching profession lost a good teacher when you understandably packed it in.
The claim was that she would not use the aircon until the temps reached 40 degrees. But I think this article, true or not, is click bait. lol
Nick makes a very good point here. A bit of research goes a long way.
It may have been hot and muggy in there, but I’d say there’s very little chance it was 40°C.
That’s just the typical exaggeration people (especially teenagers) like to put on a story to add to their own indignation.
And I think there is quite a good chance the teacher is having a justified shot at the students, who very widely take the approach of; “We’re all gonna die, and it is all the fault of my parents and their parents, selfish b@st@rds …. by the way, would you mind turning the air conditioner on? Even though I refused to walk to school this morning, and demanded a car ride from mum, I’m a little hot under the collar due to my indignation about the terrible state of the world”.
It is not beyond reason to call all believers of AGW dogma; nutters, fanatics and in some cases, like the above mentioned teacher, criminally insane. Her ignorance could have done harm to her charges.
As a kid who grew up in 1960s Brisbane and also went to a state high school there, I am gobsmacked these kids have something called air conditioning. We old f*rts all survived Brisbane summers without air conditioning and despite the bleating of climate change whingers, the temperature doesnt appear to be any different now than then. Perhaps we were made of sterner stuff. That said I am strongly in favour of turning off the airconditioning. These kids need to understand climate alarmism and the personal consequences so they understand they will be extremely discomforted by the actions many of these kids say they support to protect the climate.
Anyway generally the heat is worst in February when you add in significant humidity.
Yes, and how about those Nuns in their full head to toe black habits standing in a baking classroom all day with 20 or 30 manic kids to teach the times table to.
No wonder they were driven to violence with canes.
Many authorities have said there has been no warming at all in the Southern Hemisphere, so, when you said; “the temperature doesnt appear to be any different now than then”, you’re probably spot on. The DoM appears to have a rather creative approach to science.
Yes with the sole proviso that many buildings are now designed to rely on refrigerated air conditioning. The days of high set buildings relying on shade and cross ventilation are behind us.
Yes, Quilter 52.
Never heard of air conditioning when a kid. Living in UK helps although I certainly remember very hot days, especially when taking exams!
But sterner stuff certainly. Back in the 50s and 60s, you could frequently SEE air pollution (cement works, coal power stations, neither with much control of what went up the chimney; industry long before its banishment to China; constant heavy traffic- our school smack next to the A2 trunk road to the Channel ports).
Every time we blew our little noses, the results were interesting shades of black and grey.
And then the smogs…
Somehow we survived and asthmatics were very few. Didn’t make it?
Now our GangGreen chums love to bang on about today’s dreadful air pollution, 40 or 50,000 deaths per year. Although, curiously, none had names.
And then in bitter cold winters with no central heating, all the fun of trying to de-ice the indoor toilet bowl and cistern.
Who would have thought back then, that the amount of CO² in the atmosphere was still almost perfect.
Sterner stuff indeed.
Loooxury!
Beat me to it. I was going to say “indoor loo” – luxury!
When I was a kid, if we asked for air conditioning we’d be cut in two with a bread knife. And that’s if we were lucky!
It’s complicated. link It’s very easy to overdo the air conditioning.
Additionally, the buildings back then were probably designed to take advantage of natural airflow instead of artificial airconditioning. Even in the mid 1990s when I went to school only two classrooms were airconditioned and both of them housed computers. The rest had louvres, banks of windows and several ceiling fans. The school in question was a long way north of Brisbane and was in a much warmer and more humid location with 35C degree days. Knee high socks for the boys too. All the buildings have now been retrofitted with airconditioning and several have been demolished to make way for more modern facilities, relying heavily on aircon.
I also grew up in that time frame in SEQld……our largishtown was described as a “ hot hole” and it was… stuck down in a small valley. No air conditioning ever….We were made of stronger stuff as we had no choice…the same as a desert dweller seemingly tolerates the heat…..today’s kids melt under the slightest provocation, have no intestinal fortitude, but it’s how they have been brought up in a modern world.
Whether the story is true or not it is believable, I’m guessing a higher percentage of government teachers vote Green than in most professions and many Green supporters are fanatics.
They’re a well organised propaganda storm troop division of the greens.
A relative who was a school teacher and schools inspector in his later career years used to say that too many school teachers do not understand the real world, they go from school to teacher training and back to school, that is their life experience.
I have always said the same thing…never worked in the real world….As a retired entrepreneurial businessman and now recently divorced, I refuse to date any teacher as I find I can not respect their views, nor their politics and naturally that lack of respect translates to a potentially bad relationship. Easier not to go there.
Green supporters really are special. I recall attending a lecture by Bob Brown in Townsville.His lecture was interesting and not particularly controversial. The audience mostly clapped politely in appreciation. A small number gave an over the top standing ovation and started chanting green slogans.
Brown looked embarrassed.
Zealots PREACH
Zealots PROSELYTIZE
IF climate change is your religion
THEN air conditioning is a sin…
Until you go home where you enjoy the benefits of technology produced by those who came before us.
And you can always fly off to Mustique or the Maldives for a couple of weeks. If you are one of our Beloved Leaders, of course.
A number of individuals have simply been brainwashed, or to use the correct term, mass formation (a psychosis). One of the prerequisites to succumbing to mass formation is for there to be a floating anxiety. This anxiety can become attached to a concrete object – a threat – if pushed by the authorities and mass media. These individuals will fall in line with diktats that involve “taking action” to combat the perceived threat and become focussed on that to the exclusion of anything else. The reactions of these individuals tends towards aggression to anyone showing contrary facts.
Air con! pfft! (BaCK In mY dAy) we had to move outside and suffer sitting in the shade of a massive tree, all 50 of us under the control of an actual Teacher that was respected or feared that could hit your head with blackboard eraser at 25 yards. Such Sooks today they never to know what a penguin was capable of.
Back in your day windows could be opened 😉
My first experience of going to school was at a one-room public school that had one teacher for all grades from kindergarten to sixth class before high school years commenced. The students were mainly children from local farms who walked, rode bicycles or Horses to school. The district was close to the Queensland Border and when I commenced at the end of one January it was the middle of summer, hot and humid conditions.
Of course we had no air conditioning but the windows and classroom door were kept open and we used the shade of trees for outdoor time. The Horses in the paddock did the same.
Frank, my son is a builder and he says to friends who work inside with air conditioning, when they speak about “global warming – climate change” that they need to go outside more often.
Ahhh, you were lucky…. 🙂
They had schools back then?
From the Wiki as linked to:
Quote:”On 18 October 2017, a Facebook post by the school announcing students will no longer be permitted to enter the local Coles Supermarket before or after school gained a large amount of media attention”
What’s that all about then – in a way gels with this story of there being some sort of ‘dictator’ in there.
It gets worse…
Quote:”Corinda State High School encourages leadership towards students”
So when the students attempt to exercise this ‘leadership‘ by asking for air-con, they are slapped down.
Classic dictator yes/no?
Surely Shirley the ‘beloved one‘ in charge of this place isn’t capable of two-faced-ness, mendacity and hypocrisy.
So we know what temp was outside, also in the classroom – what temperature was it in the School’s Head Teachers’ Office at the time?
<laughs> We do all see a lovely positive feedback there don’t we:
hot makes teacher hot/angry = angry teacher makes kids angry makes teacher angry and so on
btw: They *KNOW* they have a problem. Check the roof (colour) of the school buildings in whichever photo you’re seeing then go here
How come our ever-so climate savvy ‘teacher’ didn’t know this?
Isn’t it their job to ‘know things’
“NSW Planning and Public Spaces Minister Rob Stokes said the report showed if the planning system didn’t take the construction of buildings and infrastructure more seriously, there could be catastrophic impacts on health, the economy and environment.”
” You must obey ! “
OT, new in space weather:
The Space Meteorological Center of the Russian-Chinese consortium has been opened in Beijing, according to the official account of the Meteorological Administration of China on the.
The goal of the Center will be to accelerate the development of meteorological services for the international civil aviation industry.
“Cooperation with Russia in international affairs and fulfillment of international obligations will enable China to increase its influence in the field of monitoring the space forecast for the needs of aviation,” said Yu Zhucun, Deputy Chief of the Meteorological Administration of China.
The document emphasizes that space time affects high-tech systems, including satellite movement, flight safety, air communication and avionics reliability, as well as human health.
Well at least she didn’t offer them up for ritual sacrifice!
These Progressive religious cults always follow the same roadmap; propaganda first, then abuse! Only when the first two steps have been ignored are the recalcitrant offered up to their various saints and gods!
C’mon now! It’s not like she tried to deny them the teaching of reading and writing like the state of Oregon now demands! And she didn’t threaten to take away their glasses as the affectations of educated scholars; so we’re light years away from Maoism!
I’m a little surprised that she didn’t want to make the afternoon indoctrination session a bit more comfortable for the kiddies; but maybe the hairshirts were already in use elsewhere!
She was almost right. Setting the aircon to 90F in summer and the heating to 50F in winter is what educators should do when students demand action on climate change. At the high school/college levels, schools should insist students shop at Goodwill, own no more than two pairs of shoes, and, of course, “no cars on campus”.
But then she herself uses fossil fuels every day, just does not want others to use them too.
This is good. The children will come to understand what their lives will be like without fossil fuels.
Now the teacher should have everything they own or use which has been made with fossil fuels taken away. The climate fanatics need to have their toys taken away.
This is the best way to learn.
I think this teacher actually did on a small scale what all of the political class and societal leaders will force upon us all soon so full marks for pointing out the absurdity of the politics
This is awesome. I wish more teachers would live what they say they believe. Give the kids a real lesson in life with a real experience of what their lives will be like under eco-fascist control. I assure you, they will be telling Greta to go to hell in short order.
So the kids melt in the heat and humidity of a closed-in classroom and may have side effects such as heat exhaustion and dehydration as a result. Geezo Pete, when I look back on the 3-room grade school I went to (2 grades per room, try teaching that bunch of 58 students, you lazy jerks!!!), the teachers went and raised the windows the minute warm air was too warm to stay awake.
Wokeism is going to become another cuss word before long. Count on it.
G’Day Sara,
“… the 3-room grade school I went to (2 grades per room, …”
From your comment and others above, it seems that any number of folks here on WUWT attended a ‘small school’ for primary education. Now I’m wondering if that had an effect on our later reasoning capabilities.
It might have, since we were taught penmanship/cursive in 1st grade, plus reading (how to sound out unfamiliar words), arithmetic, history, grammar, and very basic biology for grade schoolers. We got algebra in the 7th grade. I have serious doubts that kids are being taught anything like this in school these days.
I am told that climate change is the number one priority for children. They are terrified, I hear and read.
Based on that, there should be no heating or A/C in schools. Drain the plumbing in winter.
Has a bogeyman been invented for climate change sstuff, so as to frighten small children? I’m beginning to think that something like that is going on and should be stopped. No child should have a guilt trip inflicted on him in regard to something over which NO HUMAN has any control.
It’s not just on things like climate change.
I assume the “40 degrees” is in Celsius? That’s over 100 degrees F for my U.S. friends and THAT is child endangerment. The teacher should be prosecuted, not just fired.
I don’t know about schools, but in the UK I think there are legal requirements for indoor working conditions regarding temperature. Perhaps this parent should look into what Australian Law says.
Country kids don’t notice the heat that city kids do because they don’t suffer the urban heat island effect which, according to NASA’s ecostress satellite maps is on average 3.5 degrees C warmer.
Jeez, I wonder how they react when given homework
Maybe she would like them to go back to living in mud huts so as not to disturb the soil and use so much cement ?!!!!!
When talking about air con being used or not used in Brisbane schools, some of the posters are arguing about temps in the schools, insulation, windows open or closed etc. What has not been mentioned is that at the peak of summer in the Southern Hemisphere, the strength of the sun is around 7% stronger than at peak of summer in the Northern Hemisphere due to the varying distance of the Earth to the Sun. Sun-starved holidaymakers from Europe to Australia often overlook this fact to their detriment with many landing in Hospital after their first days on the beach thinking they are in the Mediterranean!
I read somewhere [perhaps in WUWT, but it needs repeating] that trying to be sensible with a climate alarmist is like trying to teach a pig to sing; it shouldn’t be tried as it is impossible and it annoys the pig.