From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
NOVEMBER 25, 2021
By Paul Homewood
h/t Ian Magness
If you thought UK climate policy was potty…………….
Olaf Scholz will head a three-party coalition with broad plans for Germany’s transition to a green economy, under a deal to end 16 years of government led by Angela Merkel.
Almost two months after his Social Democrat party won federal elections, he will go into power with the Greens and business-friendly Free Democrats.
Climate protection forms a big part of the coalition deal.
The parties aim to phase out coal use by 2030, eight years ahead of schedule.
They will also seek to use 2% of German territory for wind power and focus on hydrogen-based energy too. By 2030, the parties want 80% of electricity to be sourced from renewable energy and 15 million electric cars to be on German roads.
Making Germany climate neutral by 2045is a big focus of the deal, entitled “Daring more progress”. Phasing out coal will take place “ideally” by 2030, and solar energy will become compulsory on the roofs of new commercial buildings and the general rule for new private homes. The 16 states will have to provide 2% of their area for wind power. The goal to phase out cars with internal combustion engines remains the EU’s target of 2035.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59399702
Germany currently gets 35% of its power from coal and nuclear, the latter already due to be phased out next year. Without this reliable generation, Germany will be heavily reliant on imported electricity.
BP Energy Review
So far this month, solar power has only provided 2.8% of Germany’s electricity. This equates to solar running at just 3% of its capacity. In simple terms, all of those solar panels they propose to build will be virtually useless in winter.
That leaves wind power. Although it has contributed on average 23% of total electricity this month, equivalent to 13 GW, there have been several days when it has been running at below 4GW. Given that Germany has 62 GW of wind power capacity, this is chicken feed.
http://energodock.com/germany/electricity-shares
German households will no doubt pay the cost for this obsession with renewable energy. But without power from other countries to fall back on when the weather does not cooperate, the outcome would be catastrophic.
There is a twist to this story. Apparently even the Greens have accepted that there will an ongoing need for gas power stations, at least in the short term.
The problem is that Germany only currently has 30 GW of gas-fired capacity.
Given the increased electrification proposed, Germany will at least 100 GW of reliable capacity. Gas, biomass and hydro together only provide 43 GW, less than half of that required.
That means an awful lot of new gas plants will have to be built. There may be a lot of hot air and wishful thinking, but little evidence that this will happen.
Sad to see the decline of Germany. Remember when the saying was “buy wine from France and cars from Germany”? Now Germans will freeze in the dark, with their economy destroyed, while China and India increase their CO2 emission way beyond the decrease in Germany (and the EU). Dysfunctional and proud of it? Sad.
No need to desperation, as the Telegraph is reporting first thing this morning:
British tanks will return to Germany to keep Climate Change threat at bay
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/25/british-tanks-will-return-germany
/sarc
“The force, which is reportedly the size of a brigade,” (Daily Express). Yes, that should really deter the Russians. However, the soldiers manning the tanks will be too busy attending lectures on race and gender woke theory that they will not have time to do any real training.
Wasn’t there a time where the Germans couldn’t participate in a war game because their soldiers could only work 41 hours a week? Oh yeah, it’s still out there: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-soldiers-forced-to-leave-nato-exercise-early-due-to-overtime-limits-a6978766.html
I don’t know, there’s something reassuring about a weak German military. 😉
When governed by morons and fanatics, I agree.
Certainly if you’re French.
Germany’s energy situation has become a parody.
Well, there was a time when a big portion of Germany’s aircraft and helicopters couldn’t fly due to lack of maintenance. Pilots were even striving to get enough flight hours to maintain their license. Some soldiers even participated in exercises with wooden props instead of real guns. But Mrs. Von der Leyen, who was defense minister at the time found it much more important, that pregnant military personnel be equipped with “appropriate” uniforms. One knows how that ended: she got “kicked upwards” and is now EU-Commission President.
Will those tanks be electric or will they burn those nasty fossil fuels?🤔
Yes, they will. 🙂
More importantly what are the tanks pronouns? wouldn’t want to misgender a tank. 😉
Will those tanks be electric? They will have to be to please the German eco-loons
The decline of Germany coincides with blind ideology and masses that are led away from reality by a propaganda servicing only some lobbies. Doesn’t this remind facts happened in the 30es? So, the new government has in its plans to lower the age for voting down to 16 years. A young unexperienced irresponsible electorate is still easier to influence…
Luigi, this tendency to lower the voting age is a new tool of the socialist left. This is taking advantage of the old saying “if you are not a liberal by age 18 you don’t have a heart, and if you are not a conservative by age 21 you don’t have a brain”. Looks like the 18 to 21 year age is in limbo.
Hard to justify lowering the age. No one currently 16 is being discriminated against. They will eventually be of voting age just like every other current voter who was once 16.
Clearly an attempt to expand a favorable voting base.
Some even talk about giving voting rights to newborns which will be exercised by the parents until they reach voting age… Others are more practical and use illegal ballots and phantom voters …
If I had my way, the voting age would be raised to 25. 3 years out of college for most people and three years of paying taxes.
The only argument that made sense for lowering the age to 18 was that if you are old enough to be drafted and sent off to die in a foreign country, you are old enough to vote.
However my response to that argument would be to allow those who are in or have already served can vote. Everyone else has to wait till they’re 25.
The best solution would be to limit voting to those who are net taxpayers.
If you aren’t helping to pay the piper, you get no say in which tunes are being played.
With a life expectancy well over 70 years, there is no good reason at all to set the age both for voting and for being elected anywhere below 50. Those who have already succeeded in life should lead.
Germans tend to be thorough in all things, including their delusions.
I would love to indulge in a bit of schadenfreude. I voted for Brexit to get out of multiple EU lunacies, However the bumbling idiot Boris and his cohorts of spineless idiots in parliamen Is quite capable of even more drooling inanities than any cocktail of German greenie parties Roll on the new Dark Age!
DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES, Hitler’s slogan, will finally be realized.
The Third Reich will rise again, but this time it will rise into the NIRVANA of RE oblivion.
NORDSTREAM 2, bringing more gas from Russia, will be an absolute necessity, after all these NEW gas plants are built, and coal and nuclear are OUT OF BUSINESS.
This is POLITICIANS agreeing to pile idiocy on top of idiocy
Here is another such idiocy in New England.
WIND AND SOLAR TO PROVIDE 30 PERCENT OF NEW ENGLAND ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION BY 2050https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/wind-and-solar-provide-50-percent-of-future-new-england
Pretty sure Deutschland Deutschland uber alles dates from 1841.
You are perhaps thinking of Ein Volk Ein Reich Ein Fuehrer?
Yes, and it doesn’t mean “Germany over all”, but, taken with the second line, it means “Germany above all others we serve”, which changes things a little.
Yes, you’re correct. In addition, the phrase (at least originally) didn’t imply Germany conquering all other countries, it meant that Germany was more important to its citizens than any other consideration.
Oh I see that Disputin beat me to it.
In particular, the original message was that a unified Germany (a novel concept in the 1840s) was desireable in place of all the little kingdoms and dukedoms constantly quarreling with each other. You actually had to apply for a visa to be allowed to travel, say, from Berlin to Hamburg, or from Hamburg to Munich in those days. Probably _several_ visas if you had to cross a number of territories on your way from A to B. Opposition to this petty bureaucracy which greatly impended progress in comparison to France, Britain, or indeed the USA was behind the movement to get “One Germany above all (the present small German-speaking states)”. When the German Empire was finally realized in 1871, the result was the still legendary boom of German industry that is at the foundation of Germany as a modern nation, and peace for 43 years (this is often forgotten because the catastrophic Great War overshadows the peaceful and prosperous era that preceded it!).
It is true however that later on, the slogan was recast by the Nazis to mean “Germany to rule the world” – an idea quite alien to those who first put the words on paper 90 years before Hitler…..
Deutschland uber Alles was first written and composed, by Austrian composer Joseph Haydn, in 1797 as an anthem for the birthday of the Austrian Emperor Francis II. It was at the time titled “Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser”(God Save Franz the Emperor). New words were set to the music in 1841 by a German poet, August Heinrich Hoffmann, becoming “Das Lied der Deutschen,” (The Song of the Germans). By the time the tune was chosen as the national anthem of Germany in 1922, during the Weimar Republic, it was being called “Deutschland, Deutschland uber Alles,”. After the fall of Adolf Hitler, Germany had no national anthem until 1950, when the West German government re-adopted Haydn’s tune.
The Massachusetts’ net zero bill says the state will be 100% free of “carbon pollution” from ALL sources, not just electricity. I’d be happy to take bets it won’t happen but I’ll be 100 in 2050 and I’m not entirely sure I’ll still be around.
“all sources”?
So the citizens and wildlife will no longer be permitted to breath?
breathing permitted, nothing else but we’ll all have to buy carbon credits for that evil behavior /s
What, New England won’t be net zero by 2050?
Actually, I still have faith in the Germans to do the right thing for their industries once it becomes obvious how harmful the policies are. For many years they have enabled foolish green policies simply because they can afford to. When the pinch comes, I think they are capable of going into reverse quite quickly.
The real crisis just hasn’t arrived yet.
Agree, 2030 may very well be the end of wind and solar in Germany, The economic damage from a doubling of existing capacity would be intolerable.
Sure. In 1946 there wasn’t a person left who admitted to being a Nazi. All it took was leveling most of the cities to rubble and losing a third of the country’s territory. Easy peasy!
Most German cars are not made in Germany these days. The Mk6 Golf is made in South Africa IIRC.
Hope there is no centenary cycle in Germany’s politics.
The German Confederation was created by the Congress of Vienna in 1815 as a replacement of the former Holy Roman Empire. I will not expand on 1920-30s.
There were Grand Solar minima in early 19th, 20th and looks like early 21st centuries.
That did not last. It took Bismark to deal with the issue.
Then when he was fired he clearly said they will start another 7-year war, which we know as WWI, leading straight to WWII. The solution proposed then was the Morganthau Plan, which was successfully scuppered with the Marshall Plan, looks like right now to be again on the cards – the complete de-industrialization of Germany.
“the former Holy Roman Empire”
which was not holy, not Roman, and not an Empire
As the Tom Lehrer song goes: “We taught them a lesson in 1918 and they’ve hardly bothered us since then.”
Let the rolling blackouts begin. It is always curious that Germany, the country we like to believe is think of as practical and unemotional in its approach to problems, crosses over into total foolishness and . There is nothing ahead for the people than high prices for an unreliable power system …This attempt to one up The Green Nude Eel, will never be accomplished .
No one ever seems to learn from others mistakes. I will watch and see them make their own
Perhaps you’d explain why they haven’t had any so far?
Not yet, but well on the way, Griff:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-27/green-shift-brings-blackout-risk-to-world-s-biggest-power-grid
Nuclear, Coal, gas and hydro electricity imports. As the EU goes to wind, those won’t be available.
Perhaps that would be because they relied more on coal this year. In the first half of 2021 coal was the biggest contributor to German’s electric grid providing 27% of their electricity compared to wind’s 22%. In total coal, natural gas and nuclear provided 56% of Germany’s electricity.
Wind had dropped from 29% in the first half of 2020 to 22% in 2021.
Officials said -wait for it-“weather was partly to blame” ie, a lack of wind from January to March
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-coal-tops-wind-as-primary-electricity-source/a-59168105
Mostly because they have links to other peoples gas power stations and lots of nuclear and coal power themselves.
You do realize the windmills are only for show?
Anyway next year most of the nuclear is being shut down.
So its filthy brown coal or Russian gas – take your pick.
Trust me, it get’s worse. Siemens, who are producing turbines and investing in North Sea wind subsidy farms are developing turbines combined with hydrogen electrolysis units – the green hydrogen is then piped ashore. Insanity piled on top of insanity; it’s almost like there is a competition to find the stupidest, least effective waste of resources.
“So its filthy brown coal or Russian gas – take your pick.”
Leo, maybe there is another alternative. I have read that the French are building nuclear power plants again. Wouldn’t it be ironic if the Germans had to buy nuclear produced electricity from France on calm, cloudy days, and pay France to take their surplus electricity on windy, sunny days.
Mostly luck. They have come dangerously close many times in recent years, and the margin of safety keeps being reduced.
“Perhaps you’d explain why they haven’t had any so far”
Lots and lots of coal fired power stations. Go look at the Pie Chart above.
Lots of that is Lignite, too, the most polluting form.
By comparison, the “backward” UK is much “greener”.
Why yes I can. Nuclear and fossil fuels accounted for 65% of electricity generation in 2019 and they imported another 5%.
In 15 years, if they proceed as planned, their auto production will be elsewhere using coal or natural gas. It’ll be interesting watching them fall on their sword for no reason.
This is not the country but betrayal by politicians.
You can see this everywhere.
Be it Boris in UK ,Turdeau in Canada or the chick in Naziland.
Same in Austria and Australia with fascist lockdowns.
( keep your eyes open for massive propaganda and social engineering via big tech and msm to make people accept freezing and blackouts during winter + new laws that will outlaw the use of woodstoves as soon as people switch to alternative heating)
The Martin Scholz guy is just another nothing as Merkel that the elites pulled out of their buttholes so they can pretend to run the country while all they do 100% ecomarxist politics in combination with the usual big corp buttkissing and privatization for billionaires.
A few years ago there was one guy (Gabriel ) who suggested that the country must have a reliable energy supply.
(This kind of unusual common sense took me really by surprise as it is extremely unusual these days in politics )
Guess what happened?- a short time later he ended his political carreer and was replaced by Scholz.
Energetische selbstmord.
Just watch the video “Lankford:Biden administration started increasing energy prizes from day1 ” on forbes/youtube(Can’t link from my device)
and you will see that,by some incredible coincidence,the USA is doing the same sort of suicide.
Therefore this is not suicide but murder from within.
Possible typo?
4th. last line, “Germany will at least 100GW…. ”
“need” missing?
The UK left the EU (allegedly) and promptly decided to do exactly what the EU is doing, only to do it ten years sooner. We all get our orders from the UNhinged, we’ve only cut out the middle man. It works the same way. Here’s the target, how you achieve it is up to you….
“The parties aim to phase out coal use by 2030, eight years ahead of schedule.”
Boris has competition now and only Poland seems to have its wits about it.
There is a possible get out included as the agreement says it is planned to bring forward the exit from coal “ideally” to 2030 from 2038
Coupla weeks ago, Lord Lawson of the GWPF wrote in the Spectator “decarbonisation, in short, will be an unparalleled economic calamity”. Much of his article struggled with the difference between the West and ‘non-West’ policies with a belief that all the evidence points towards alarmism being a religion.
The Great de-carbonizer is none other than Dr. John Schellnhuber of the Potsdam climate Institute, who initiated Merkels Great Transformation as her science advisor.
For this Dr. John was awarded a CBE personally by the Queen in 2004 at the Berlin Embassy.
I wonder what Lord Lawson would make of that?
Yippee, it’s a race to the bottom !!
Come on Britain, if we try harder we can beat them.
Stop driving, ( fuel is needed for the elites), Turn your heating off (you can keep warm by hand digging frozen ground), One warm meal a day, Wash twice a year (whether you need to or not), Bring back strict rationing, eat only locally sourced root veg soup ( the good food is needed for the elites).
We’ve beaten the Germans before … we can do it again; beloved Boris (& bint) will lead us to victory.
Stop driving; Turn your heating off
Yes, we’re doing that, But it isn’t an effort to save the planet, it’s an effort to save the wallet
Not to worry, DAVOS says you will own nothing and be happy. Trust us!
‘You will be happy or you will be dead’ is the goal.
The gas will come from Russia. This a big win for Putin.
The EU has just declared itself a colony of the Russian Empire, taking trade deals on the terms of the real power.
In the coming fight for global supremacy between Russia and China, this is a blow against the Belt and Road initiative.
Who funds the German Green party?
Look up the Böll Stiftung. Named after the famed author.
https://www.boell.de/de/navigation/struktur-16450.html
Ich Bin Ein Grüner. 🙂
I’m no expert on the German language but should that be ‘Ich Bin Grüner’? President Kennedy once made a fool of himself describing himself as a sausage. (Ich bin ein Berliner.)
JFK was mocked by various about the Berliner, a filled doughnut.
He was responding to a Soviet demand to vacate Berlin, not funny at all!
A Berliner is a kind of doughnut. Ich bin ein Hamburger, or, ich bin ein Frankfurter would declare you to be a savoury snack. But you are right, the ein is surplus to requirement as is also the ‘er’.
Ich bin ein Grüner – I am a Green.
Berliner has several meanings, the first, what Kennedy would have said, he feels as an inhabitant of Berlin.
Also Berliner is what Americans may call bismarcks, or a special form of donut.
Saw them in San Jose, where 2 cops spoke perfect German. My buddies nearly fell over!
But a Bismark herring, or Rollmops, is a different kettle of fish!
Leo Translater told mi bismarck is a donut, not my idea 😀
How to Make Filled Bismark Donuts
but for the hering that’s right too. Just found here my error, the donut is written withou ck, only k 😀
But not in Berlin (so despite all mockery, nobody would have misunderstood JFK on that day in that place). We call them “Pfannkuchen” though they aren’t pancakes 🙂 If you walk into a bakery shop in Berlin and ask for a “Berliner”, chances are that the guy behind the counter answers “Well, here I am, what can I do for you?”
Both can be used,but both are unusual.
Your version can usually only be used in a spoken way if party affiliation is mentioned beforehand.
Otherwise it would mean the same as it does in English : I am greener.
And the word would be missunderstood as comparative.
and president Carter tried to speak Polish in Poland but whoever wrote his script really screwed up because it came out, something like, “I like your young women”.
Wasn’t that Bill Clinton?
Bill had other ways of expressing that sentiment.
Oh dear, I was only kidding. Woke bunch here?
Maybe they only do Kennedy?
Ich bin ein Sauerkraut
Hehe! Are you still performing around England, fretslider?
I think you talk about a “Kraut” 😀
As someone here mentioned, COP26 is gangrene in Glasgow dialect – all gone green.
Ich bin ein Gangräner – roughly translated from Glasgow dialect….
I bet old Vlad is laughing his head off. Somehow your country can be green, providing someone else provides the fossil fuels.
I give a 9, 8 and 9 for the mental gymnastic scorecard.
The stupid assed people of Germany voted for this then they deserve to sit in the dark and freeze.
The bad of the story is, all parties are unisono to these targets.
Good, they can all sit in the dark and freeze. THAT is what they all deserve. If you don’t make stupid hurt stupid people will never learn. We should have made stupid hurt for Germans a lot more and for a lot longer, clearly.
In the Coalition, maybe.
Now they are stuck with a Pandemic, Hyperinflation, and an insane war-drive from London and D.C.
I think they will wish for their good ol’ days being in opposition.
This headache cold not happen to nicer guys!
Hyperinflation? Not yet.
On the way, it’s a short one even.
Well they haven’t so far, at 51% renewable electricity…
For how long? A day A week? A month? A year?
The answer with fossil fuels is Years on end.
” … so far, at 51% renewable electricity… ”
Do you mean that they are only 49% frozen?
Do you mean that they are in only 49% darkness? ( a kind of romantic twilight… and with the 49% cold enhancing the attractive force between material bodies pushing them to entangle to keep warm… you are a genius, griff, a real demographic genius!… )
We know that you are very comfortable in your tropical, climate-changed UK, and believe that Germany, being farther south and continental, should be by now rather hot, but … why not ask a few Germans how they feel and what they expect in the coming months?
“We know that you are very comfortable in your tropical, climate-changed UK,”
It is important to distinguish between griff’s fantasy and cold hard reality
Tropical, it most definitely ain’t.
” Tropical, it most definitely ain’t. ”
But it will soon be, unless you quit beef and become a soya eater, unless you quit petrol and become an ecologically sound and renewable wood burner (or, a more trendy hydrogen burner), unless you do not becomee extinct!…
Yeah, I heard that.
It’s still a fantasy.
See my reply to you above. In the first half of 2021 coal, natural gas and nuclear provided 56% of Germany’s electricity. Wind only 22%
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-coal-tops-wind-as-primary-electricity-source/a-59168105
51% for 5 minutes during a time of low demand is not the same thing as providing 51% 24/7. You consistently make this mistake, it can’t be an accident.
Beyond that, Germany is connected to the entire European grid, French nukes and Polish coal plants.
The fact that you keep repeating these lies is why you get abused, and rightfully so.
Just keep spewing those lies, lie spewing liar, it is all you got.
Griff the plonker has never been in Germany in winter!
On my last visit to Frankfurt – 2 weeks ago, as we flew into FRA, you could see the stationary windmills sticking out of the FOG, the solar panels were doing sweet FA, and the ground temps were at 2-3C with heavy frost at night.
The airport I arrived in + the house I stayed in was warm, thanks no doubt to a mix of Polish, French, and nuclear electricity.
The aircraft was powered as usual by jet fuel and the bus taking us to the terminal was a diesel, as was the mercedes that took me to town.
What cooked our food was gas (comes from Russia) and more electricity.
Most of the food we ate was delivered to shops by trucks using diesel fuel, and packaged in plastic (produced by oil) as were the internet routers, computers, etc etc.
so far from all the operations I counted not even 0.001% of what we used or did came from “renewable” sources, and this is the rule in Germany during those months of freezing cold foggy days which they have in most of industrial Germany.
It is exactly the same in Northern Italy, which I have spent the last 2 months in.
Days of poor daylight, fog and windless.
The whole idea of using a power resource which is totally unavailable during the time you most need it is a suicidal tendency, but hey GRIFF sound more and more like Bojo’s speech to the CBI.
Let’s go to Peppa-pig land, stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes.
This is the only way to make an alternative reality work.
As someone said voters are at least partly to blame for the Government, but after 16 years of the Sleep of Reason under Merkel (who’s only achievement was to kill nuclear) guess what happens?
Goya : Sleep of Reason breeds Monsters (and monster energy bills!)
Another twist : the in-sync Greens who got a lot of posts, slammed the latest US sanctions on NordStream2. Meanwhile apparently bureaucrats are holding it up. Foreign Minister, a Green, is extreme anti-Russia, which should please Blinken et. al, but not voters.
At least 2 ministers are Great Reset, including Finance.
We need a Reset of Reason, a wake up call!
“As someone said voters are at least partly to blame for the Government”
It’s an illusion. Parliament sees people come and go but Parliament always is. The voters just get to rearrange a few seats. There’s never a vote for issues like net zero etc.
If nobody voted at the next election, Parliament would force Brenda to appoint one of them as a caretaker PM until something could be fudged together.
That’s [mediaeval UK] democracy for you. Not convinced? Try recalling an MP
Look at Sweden – Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson, lasted 7 HOURS! Must be a record!
The model for Europe, what?
Looks like Reason is Hibernating!
Sweden is a basket case, but at least it got one thing right. No lockdown. Sweden went from the darling of the left to a pariah state, almost overnight…
“Sweden’s Covid-19 policy is a model for the right. It’s also a deadly folly”
The Swedish sickness is a political as well as a medical disaster
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/may/23/sweden-covid-19-policy-model-for-right-also-a-deadly-folly?share=facebook
Ouch. Only it wasn’t a disaster.
Spain looks like the model right now.
I like the Spanish models
http://beauty-around.com/en/tops/item/25-samyue-krasivyie-ispanki
Si
All photoshopped – you can tell that as none of them have moustaches, it’s a feature of the senorita’s.
Merkel fullfilled the target to lead Germany into GDR 2.0
That was her job living in the 1.0, the origin.
Kohl had absolutely no plan whatsoever for the Fall of the Wall. Probably believed Honnecker’s famous last words that the DDR was forever. Even when the warning was clearly given at the Berlin’s Kempinski Bristol Hotel on Oct. 12, 1988 that the Soviet economy was about to implode.
http://energodock.com/germany/electricity-shares
24 November, 58% of German energy generation was coal/lignte/gas. Not looking great for the renewable future.
Do the German public not recognize that they have simply swapped the brown shirts for the green shirts? Why are a people so culturally, technically and educationally advanced so often being taken for a ride by their politicians?
It should be no surprise the Greens became the War Party, rabidly anti-Russian. The new Foreign Minister, Green, made recent statements that could only remind people of Operation Barborossa. With NATO chief Rassmussen moving closer to the border and the US belligerently annoying Russia with Ukraine expect trouble.
Britain and the US put open naz*is in Kiev, something the MSM will never report on. For a Green to suggest arming Kiev is unbelievable, but actually expected.
It was after all the ¨philosopher¨ Heideggar , Hit*lers ghost writer, who first proposed giant wind turbines. Try telling that to the Dublin greenies!
Ah yes bonbon, the rational approach would be for the German government to build some very nice (gas-heated) barracks and then invite the Russian troops in so as to avoid any regrettable bloodshed. Am I right?
That’s what Xiden did with Bagram Airbase. Let’s Go Brandon!
I’m afraid asking any military advice from D.C and London leads straight to the utterly incompetent Afghan fiasco bloopers in uniform, Colonel Blimp!
Perhaps they understand and accept the science and can see, after more than a decade of making progress on renewables, that there’s nothing to be worried about
The new coalition will legalize cannabis, and hope voters will not worry as industry collapses.
The Blackout TV clip and the news do in fact warn voters :
https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/blackout-105.html
The new admin will reap the whirlwind…
As if legalising it would increase consumption
It won’t. It’s easily obtainable from the street to the dark web.
A bright politician might see it as a source of untapped revenue in these cash strapped times…
It will increase the consumption of munchies.
Right you are, goof!
We jumped out of the plane when everyone told us that would be suicide. We’re nearly half way to the ground, and see? Nothing to worry about!
Griff, after a career that included electric system planning and CEO/GM of an electric utility, I assure you that there is much to be worried about. But expertise pales in comparison to Guardian editorials that seem to dictate your “thinking.”
“accept the science”
How do you explain this obsession with the definite article, griff?
Had you said “the scientific method” it would have made some sense
griff before you get too carried away just consider the following re electricity production here in UK
Today at 16.30 unreliables were supplying 40.2% of electricity and fossil fuels 31.8%-bet that brings a smile to your face 🙂
BUT
Over the last week unreliables have provided 27.4% and fossil fuels 43.4%
Over the last month unreliables have provided 27.7% and fossil fuels 40.8%
Over the last year unreliables have provided 23.3% and fossil fuels 42.4%
So every now and again unreliables supply more electricity than fossil fuels but in the long run they always provide less.
https://grid.iamkate.com/
Dave, Dave, Dave!
You don’t get that if windmill capacity is doubled you’ll get twice as much power during those 1-2 week still periods that come in late January and February? Two times, um, ah, zero is…well, twice as much!
Maybe the Russians could extend Nordstream?
The constancy of fossil fuels power supply is totally lost on Griff.
The need for 100% fossil fuel backup for Unreliables also escapes him.
I’m still waiting to see this science that has you so bedazzled.
The world is still cooler than the Medieval, Roman, Minoan and Egyptian warm periods, and way cooler then the entirety of the Holocene Optimum.
CO2 caused none of those warm periods, and so far the only argument in support of the belief that the current warm period is caused by CO2 is, is they can’t think of anything else that could have caused it.
“there’s nothing to be worried about”
Other than the fact that they pay the highest electricity prices in Europe – up to $0.36 per kWh.
And there is in fact increasing concern about the stability of the grid in Germany:
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/germanys-green-energy-destabilizing-electric-grids/
They are not all dupes of the Green movement.
“The Science” – proslyetising again, Griffy? Perhaps if you understood how wasteful, expensive and ecologically damaging these renewables actually are then YOU might finally understand. Until then you are one of the blind, leading the blind….. right over a cliff.
“Perhaps they understand and accept the science “
Great they understand and accept Fauci (Only he represent the science. He said so himself!) but that still doesn’t alter the facts and the reality of the situation. (two things that you never seem to come into contact with).
I wonder if the math needs a re-check for this statement:
“So far this month, solar power has only provided 2.8% of Germany’s electricity. This equates to solar running at just 3% of its capacity.”
If 2.8% of total is 3% of it’s capacity, then the full capacity of solar would have to be 93% of total capacity. Perhaps 3% was meant as 30%, putting solar capacity at a little over 9% of total capacity.
But if you roll back to June?
PV electricity produced in Germany | SMA Solar
Strangely wind tends to deliver in winter and solar in summer.
No. There are always blocking highs in late winter in the UK and often in Europe, when there is total calm and zero wind generation for periods of 1-2 weeks. The attempt to take the UK to solar and wind will have a very simple consequence. If it is seriously intended, every january or February the lights and the heat will go out for a couple of weeks in the coldest part of the season.
Because the blocking high pressure area is accompanied by clear skies and very cold temperatures.
People die of the cold in British winters already, because they are fuel poor. Implement the move to wind and solar and more will die. Partly because of power cuts, partly because of the rise in prices.
The existing fuel poverty is contributed to by high electricity prices, and those in turn are because the UK taxes electricity and uses the proceeds to subsidize wind and solar. It is going to get worse with the UK’s idiotic and useless attempts to get to net zero.
The present tax and subsidy is the most regressive form of taxation you could imagine, well, maybe taxing bread and potatoes would be a bit worse than taxing electricity. It hits the poor very hard and doesn’t affect the Guardianistas or the BBC commentariat.
There are people in the UK every winter who sit and freeze because they don’t want to spend the money to boil a kettle to make a hot water bottle!
What people will do? If they live in the country, install a stove and burn coal – smokeless briquettes or anthracite. Buy a diesel or gasoline powered generator so they are assured of power when the grid goes down.
The end result will be those who can afford to do this will spend money they can afford, and the poor and old will get cold and die.
And the reductions of CO2 emissions, in the unlikely event there are any, will be too small to make any difference at all to global temps.
Tell me, Griff. Have you ever spent a few days in an unheated house in the UK in January or February? Try it. You’ll find its no fun. You slow down, you wrap yourself in a duvet if you have one. You go to supermarkets or a library or indeed anywhere indoors you can warm up for free. Its one of the wickedest thing that the climate maniacs are doing, to inflict this on the poor and voiceless while falsely claiming to be saving the planet by doing it.
Well said.
According to Fuel Poverty Action around 10,000 people a year die in the UK because they cannot afford to heat their homes and over 3 million people live in fuel poverty.
As many as 140,000 households are being added each day to the list of families having to choose between heating and eating.
https://www.fuelpovertyaction.org.uk
The left has always been convinced that there are too many people on the planet.
Renewable energy seems to be little more than their latest scheme to reduce the surplus population.
And of course, not “our people” (the elites), it’s the deplorables (common people) that will die off. So a double win for the Left.
Prince Philip of reincarnated virus infamy was ¨left¨? That’s a whopper!
Except when it doesn’t. But hey what harm could come if the wind went still for a week of Arctic chill?
OK Griff, let’s follow your logic here for a bit. There is no problem because expensive/subsidized renewables can be supplemented by gas from Russia. Meanwhile, all this expensive power combined with dependence on Russia is completely unnecessary because increased emissions from China and India will dwarf any reduction in German emissions, highly mixed atmosphere and all that. This all makes a lot of sense /s
At what cost?
What does cost have to do with it? When you’re saving the planet, no amount of OPM is too much!
Except when it does not. In the first half of 2021 wind provided 22% of Germany’s electricity compared to 29% in the first half of 2020. Coal, gas and nuclear provided 56%
Officials said weather was partly to blame – a lack of wind from January to March.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-coal-tops-wind-as-primary-electricity-source/a-59168105
Pfffft!
Just three months? That’s supposed to be some kind of problem?
So you need enough wind to completely power Germany in the winter, and enough solar to completely power Germany in the summer.
In other words you have to have maintain two power generation systems, but only use one of them.
Now wonder renewables cost so much.
And that’s assuming the wind blows all winter and the sun shines all summer. Which of course only happens in griff’s dreams.
as far as I am aware even in mid summer in Germany the sun does NOT shine at night, and it’s often windless also on those hot days in June-September.
I worked in Germany for 3 years during the 90s and as far as I know nothing has changed.
Wondering why a graph with German energy prices over the last few years wasn’t in this mix?
It should be noted that only 15% of the voters voted for the Green party (and 76% of the people voted). While other parties also had climate topics in their programs, this seems to indicate than only a minority of the Germans gave this a high priority.
Of course then the democratic process gave the Greens the role of Kingmakers and they used it to push their agenda.
Never forget it was not the Greens who turned off nuclear, but the CDU/SPD great coalition before Fukushima, secretly. These 2 parties were trashed in the elections with legendary lows.
Establishment parties right accross the transatlantic are being trashed, having lost any trust. Look what BoJo did with Brexit and wonder!
With the Morganthau Plan in full force, a new twist – the new government will legalize cannabis, so voters won’t notice the decent into the Inferno.
“only 15% of the voters voted for the Green party”
Well, the most votes the Nazi party ever got was 33%, and much of that was of the protest type, where people were voting against other parties they didn’t like, and most of them didn’t actually know what the Nazi agenda was about. When they found that out it was too late.
And that with Prescott Bush, personally financing the election, even with mass unemployment. It took the Reichstagsbrand to consolidate power.
Now fast forward to 9/11 – where was Bush when someone told him? This time around the Reichstagsbrand almost worked, and look at the result!
Just like the people in California, the Germans will get exactly what they voted for.😃
Frankly, I hope they move forward very aggressively so that they cause a total grid collapse as soon as possible. It will take that happening to cause those sitting on the sidelines to finally wake up at take action against the stupidity of western “leaders” who are apparently in a competition to see which one can destroy their country first. The dems in the US are fighting hard to get some form of the green new deal passed which, if they are successful, may catapult the US past the rest of the competitors in this race to the bottom.
The U.S. Constitution limits Federal power vs the States. The lawsuits against Federal overreach are just beginning. Please note that the courts overturned Obama’s electric power plan.
One can hope…..
8 years?
Sounds like a reincarnation of the 5-year plans from farther east.
Maybe it is part of a much longer term plan; lots of ‘sleepers’ must be in Germany.
-No longer sleeping?
Germans seem to have a serious, possibly genetic, brain disorder. History would support this.
Are the electricity imports figures available anywhere?
It seems to me there would be a lot of thermal energy wasted in having to curtail coal and gas plant production when the wind starts blowing hard and then ramping them back up when it stops blowing so hard. That translates to inefficiencies. These inefficiency costs should be counted against the renewables but of course they get counted against the fossil fuels to make them look even more expensive.
Not just inefficient, but operating in this manner also increases wear and tear on the fossil fuel plants. Those extra expenses are also charged solely to the fossil fuel plants.
“Germany currently gets 35% of its power from coal and nuclear, the latter already due to be phased out next year. “
The $hit will probably hit the fan once nuclear goes, never mind the coal.
California has proven that greens can reverse policy quickly with rapid construction of gas-fired powerplants. Its just that Russia can put a wrinkle in EU options.
Yup. There’s something wrong with our societies when punishment by the CCP or Putin’s Russia looks like the best way go get the train back on the rails.
As the temps fall, all that available wind power and solar and coal is producing more electricity than both – https://app.electricitymap.org/zone/DE
The electric export graphic indicates that (at least) Norway, Sweden and Poland will get rich off of German and UK stupidity.
In simple terms, all of those solar panels they propose to build will be virtually useless in winter. – article
Gee whiz, guys, pointing out the obvious isn’t going to make any headway with these twits! I thought everybody knew that. They only care about virtue-signaling and chasing windmills.
Don Quixote watches, and weeps.
I did mean to ask if Germany has completely wiped out the Black Forest, or if there is anything left of it? There seems to be a serious need to destroy such things to make this charade of “look what WE did!” valid.
Sara – that, right there, might just be the fundamental problem with this generation; ‘your generation did nothing, but look what we did!’ – it all seems to be narcissism, ego and short sighted stupidity in one package.
Look for German industry to move elsewhere.
at a faster pace.
Some Dutch companies have moved to the UK but I would imagine German companies might move east into Poland, especially if a Polexit is on the cards.
My Green German sister is delighted.
I wonder how long it will last…
Depends,,
Is she one of the elites profiting from this? I was on a tour of Berlin and our tour guide told us his in-laws hoped for a return to the Soviet imposed system. They had been top Party members, and it all worked very well for them.
Never forget that Germany, with a few nearby countries like Switzerland, have been the main creators of the global warming/climate change alarmism, through public faces like Potsdam and Bern university and who knows what concealed forces as well. You can trace this campaign back to the WWII era. Germany has been at odds with much of the rest of the world for the last 100 years, doing evil acts reminiscent of brutal criminals that judges put away for life because they will not change for the better.
That said, I have met quite a few German/European people who are delightful friends, free of the national defect, suggesting that the solution is possible via the proverbial gathering of the few good men, Geoff S
At least, I’ve heard that it’s relatively easy to convert the coal plants to natural gas … if the greens are intelligent enough to do so … A strategy based on import from France, the Czech Republic or Poland could lead to very bad surprises if these countries need the electricity for themselves. The price tag for that option is also a big unknown.
There is an europe wide, day ahead, market for electricity: all the countries are connected.
Germany exports more than it takes to every country except France, where imports of surplus French nuclear electricity are involved.
Except you know sweet F-A about Europe, cos you are sitting composing crap in your little armchair in the UK.
You know ZILCH about France, and sweet FA about Germany.
Why are you writing shit about countries you neither go to, don’t work in, and never visit??