Reposted from NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
The UN’s climate agenda has finally hit the buffers in Glasgow.
It almost happened in Copenhagen 12 years ago, when developing nations refused to limit their economic growth to satisfy the West. It was only the promise of hundreds of billions of dollars that persuaded them to come along for the ride.
The can was kicked down the road again in 2015 at Paris, when developing countries were given carte blanche to carry on increasing emissions.
But sooner or later, the time would come for action, not talk. And when it came to the crunch, the developing nations rebelled, led by India, China, South Africa and Iran. The touchpaper was this clause in the Draft Agreement, which was presented to the conference yesterday:
India along with a host of like minded countries knew that they could not run their economies without coal and other fossil fuels, never mind grow them and relieve poverty. Faced with the whole Agreement being lost, Alok Sharma and the UN organisers backed down, and replaced the words “phase-out” with “phase-down”. Just one word changed, but its effect was devastating for the Agreement.
Given that there is no obligation to do any of this (hence the term “Calls”), and no timescales are mentioned, India and the rest can interpret this clause any way they want. (Unabated coal, by the way, means where the carbon is not captured). In short, they will be able to carry on burning all the coal they want, for as long as they want.
The rest of the Agreement is pretty weak and ineffectual as well. It is full of terms such as “urges”, “requests” and “invites”, which mean there is no obligation on anybody to do anything.
And all COP26 has really agreed on is to meet up again next year and discuss things again.
In terms of Mitigation, ie reducing emissions, countries who have not yet submitted new plans are requested to do so next year. But if they have not done so yet, it is hardly likely they will come up with anything meaningful next year.
The Agreement inevitably “reaffirms” the 1.5C target. It would have been politically impossible to do otherwise. However, 1.5C was never an option, and was effectively kicked into touch at Paris, when it was acknowledged that emissions would carry on rising till 2030. According to the science, emissions would need to be cut in half in this decade to hit 1.5C, something which is clearly not remotely possible now.
Parties are also requested to come back next year with strengthened targets. But again, are countries that have just submitted new targets this year going to propose anything significantly different next year?
Then, of course, there is the money. There is a lot of “urging” and “requesting” developed countries to cough up:
But already the bar is being raised, with the third world demanding ever more. One significant item introduced at COP26 is the demand by developing nations that finance for adaption to climate change should be ramped up at the expense of mitigation.
In other words, they don’t want money for solar panels. They’d rather have it for building resilience against climate change (by which they mean weather!).
One further blow to those demanding western money has been the neutering of their Loss and Damage agenda. This is the ludicrous claim that all weather disasters are due to global warming, and that rich countries should therefore pay poor ones every time there is a bit of bad weather.
That was too much for even Joe Biden to accept, as it would leave the West on the hook for ever. The Glasgow Pact has effectively kicked this into touch, just promising more talks at some time in the future.
Naturally supporters of the UN agenda, such as the BBC, have tried to make the best of a bad job, claiming that “progress has been made”. The absurd Matt McGrath calls it “ambitious” and “progressive”.
Some have even claimed that the 1.5C target is still alive. Chris Stark, Chief Executive of the Committee on Climate Change, for instance stated:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59253838/page/6
This shows just how out of touch he is with reality. Living in his little bubble, he seems to think the rest of the world shares his obsession with climate change.
But as the Climate Action tracker reaffirms, emissions will carry on growing, despite the new plans submitted to COP26:
https://climateactiontracker.org/global/cat-emissions-gaps/
The end of the road.
In my view, we have seen the beginning of the end for the UN’s climate agenda.
There will no doubt be many more COPs to come. And there will be annual warnings from Prince Charles that we have 12 more months to save the planet.
But the writing is now on the wall. Developing countries around the world are standing up and refusing to cut back on fossil fuels, because they know they have no alternative if they want to grown their economies and give their people a better life.
They have got off the Climate Train.
So should we.
Well if that isn’t a spanner in the wind turbine….
There isn’t a whole lot of wind about this autumn perhaps its been used up already
Bidens shart stopped the wind in its tracks.
There’s a mighty wind blowing from COP26, and it’s name is Joe Biden. 😂
It’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good – literally and not idiomatically.
Its the Let’s Go Brandon effect, similar to the Gore effect. The UK should station #FJB in the North Sea.
It is surprisingly NOT windy here in my part of Portugal, which is normally very windy. One of the first things my new neighbors warned me about was the tendency for my driveway to turn into a wind tunnel almost daily. And I have experienced that phenomena often, just not currently and in the past few months….
We have reached “peak wind”….
peak windbag?
Less a spanner than a pile of green excrement.
I bet that at COP 27 in Sharm-el-sheik, Egypt, someone will turn off the air conditioning and open the windows to “motivate” the participants.
It was reported that the hot water was turned off in the hotel in Glasgow to save energy or for some foolish reason.
That was a good idea.
With the energy that was saved one of those private jets can fly 47 yards further.
But only after it is already airborne.
And on a glide path
From my brief foray into Glasgow, more likely someone forgot / couldn’t afford to feed the hot water meter. I stopped by a discotheque wherein the Glaswegian ladies had all saved for their gowns and makeup by not taking hot shower baths.
The COP26 Meeting in Glasgow ended In humiliating failure… what a relief, what a success, keep up the Good Work there.
Going by the United Nations records, the Council of Parties “meetings” never were intended to be “successful” at stopping climate change. All the “research” done in support at best deals with little, tiny fractions of the biosphere. Any scientific basis for “global warming” or “climate change” is still simply without any scientific basis. The ongoing “climate modelling continues on with very limited “math models” of the climate that do not have the capability to model any single climate because they leave out many effects on the climate because they cannot be modeled, and in most cases are unknown.
The latest fiasco has been the total disregard by the intelligenstia of the variability of the sun. No model includes solar variability despite the fact that the current likely “cold snap” is due to a long-predicted Solar Grand Maximum similar to the Maunder Minimum. Colder weather for at least 10, maybe 20 or more years of temperatures 2 deg C lower than the recent past.
Lies, corruption, misdirection, and political maneuvering for money and power is all.
And if the solar drop reduces the global temperature +- 1°C…
The warmists will say it was because of COP26 and all their efforts…and they saved the planet! ooohh!
If it had ended in success, there wouldn’t have been an excuse to hold another party next year.
Yes, since “THE SCIENCE” has been settled for > 20 years now, one wonders what delegates find to talk about at these conferences.
Maybe what movies they watched on the flight there?
(disaster movies only of course)
China and India played the SUCKERS like a Stradivarius….and they came away with ALL the prizes and NO obligations while the FOOLS in the West pick up ALL the bills and MUST commit national economic suicide by DESTROYING all of their DEPENDABLE, RELIABLE, EFFICIENT, ABUNDANT, CHEAP energy sources.
Yeah! The developing countries are making progress again with their refusal! Am just pitying the Thunbergian eejits, because this isn’t the kind of progress THEY want 😀
Funny that, I remember when South Africa was a developed nation with a functioning western economy, active industries, etc. Now I believe it struggles to keep the lights on for more than a few days a week and constantly has its begging bowl out for ‘special’ loans, etc. Except that it government comrades and cadres steal everything.
Indeed. Corruption destroys economic development.
The poster child for corruption might be Haiti. Compare it with the Dominican Republic, with which it shares the island of Hispaniola. If you look at satellite pictures, it’s easy to tell where the border is. link
The demand for coal depends on the level of economic development, which in turn is an inverse function of corruption.
If you want to reduce coal consumption, the obvious solution is to promote corruption. I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry.
Pigment destroys economic development. There I corrected it for you.
Don’t agree? Name 1, really only 1, country with a positive pigment development ratio. You can’t. Even when presented with a blank slate everything goes to sh*t, see Liberia.
The sooner we acknowledge this as grown-ups the sooner we can get started to solving the problem.
What is a pigment ratio?
If you were in the same position as those individuals whose corruption retards economic development do you believe you would not behave similarly? If not, why not?
I like South Africa, because no one pretends corruption isn’t happening. No ‘directorships’ ‘consultancy fees’ ‘ deniable nepotism’ ‘insider trading’.
“Corruption” – as Zuma’s lawyer said – “is a western thing”.
In Africa it’s simply taking care of your (extended) family.
Same goes for Zimbabwe. Back when it was Rhodesia they had a functioning economy and were considered the breadbasket of Africa.
Papua New Guinea fits this condition as well.
The good news is that in future they are going to use “the best available scientific knowledge” (clause 23). So a complete about-turn as they throw away the junk science they have been using so far. Somebody has better point this out to the BBC.
Yes Philip I can see in future the “best available science” will slowly dial down the effect of Co2 it’s the only way the West gets off the hook and continue using fossil fuels without guilt. Don’t expect it will be quick but it’s the only way out of the mess they have created.
I think that how they will get off the hook, is by going massively nuclear. They will never admit that climate change itself was a total fraud, they will just realize that “having gone nuclear”, it’s “not as bad as we feared”.
I strongly suspect that ex of political inerference, the cost of fossils will rise to exceed nuclear power fairly soon. And the problems of renewables are writ large for anyone to see.
Irrespective of climate change, the future is nuclear, largely.
Thanks for the reply Leo, that is indeed an option, however with the gross failure of COP26 in the eyes of Greta’s followers and the lunatic fringe, civil unrest could escalate something governments could not tolerate. They would have to react, interesting to see how it all develops.
Nuclear is not a short term solution. Not just because it takes so long to actually build the plants, but also because the NIMBY folks will keep it all tied up in the courts for years.
Eyes are getting off the ball, again.
There is no need for a “solution” because there is NOT a “problem” that requires said “solution” to begin with.
What was it Phil Jones said?
Oh, yes:
The climate change game was rigged from the start by people like Phil Jones.
What are “common but differentiated responsibilities and respective capabilities” (Paragraph 23)? Is this just bureaucratic gobbledygook?
Paul Homewood “Then, of course, there is the money. There is a lot of “urging” and “requesting” developed countries to cough up”
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Frightful.
8 statement each and everyone demanding money before action could be taken .
No action plan except a repeat of Scott Morrison’s “when technology develops”.
Then asking for more money for unknown technology.
I forgot.
A promise to come back in a year to check how much money they were able to winkle out.
Shameful.
Abba to the max.
Urging and requesting sounds a lot like a high school boy trying to get laid … well, at least back in the day when it was considered proper for girls to retain their virginity … today that seems a little less woke than is considered proper.
What was you first clue? 🙂
Yes, but gobbledygook meant to put the West on the hook and give China, India & etc. a free ride.
“… if they want to grown their economies”.
It’s only a little ‘n’ I know, but hey. Unless the author meant ‘groan’ their economies?
Heard NZ’s Minister for Climate Change [sic] on the radio and, yes, he was groaning and moaning and whining about the total net zero achievement of conference #26. Guess he’s organising his NEXT taxpayers’ sponsored holiday in Egypt next year already.
Kerry says they will try harder at COP27.
The U.S.A. uses right at 100 Quadrillion Btu’s of energy each year. Wind and Solar produced less than 4% of that total energy in 2019 according to the EIA. It is absolutely impractical to think that wind and solar can replace the conventional fossil fuels plus nuclear that has powered our good lives for years. COP-26 is more about weakening the U.S.A. and spreading the wealth of rich countries than of saving the planet. Would someone please wake up the MSM to have them report honestly? Net Zero America is a farce
Dick, agree totally.
(Also, 100 Quadrillion British Thermal Units would be, in modern scientific terms, 1800 PJ of energy. The great Richard Feynman joked about the preponderance of energy units. https://youtu.be/roX2NXDUTsM )
Try to replace the atomic drive of an aircraft carrier with sails and wou will soon realise where the problem is.
It’s not possible to run an economy on good intentions and virtue signalling.
It certainly isn’t possible to run an effective military defence.
You are so right! But there is a huge disconnect between reality and what Greens profess to believe. Somehow they all think they can trash the economy that is supporting them in their current very comfortable lifestyle and yet still enjoy that comfort.
The Greens who want net zero via unreliables (which will trash any economy), and at the same time expect to keep the lights on and their smart phones operating, are useful idiots.
The GEBs (Globalist Evil Bastards**) pushing net zero are trying to collapse Western economies, and their useful idiots don’t realize that fact nor the implications.
That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s a spoiler alert.
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** Also stands for Greedy Evil Bastard. Your pick, depending on context, and most often the ‘G’ means both Greedy and Globalist.
Still don’t see how the GEBs will be able to continue their extravagant lifestyle if they succeed in destroying Western economies and culture. I* can see it all going down the tubes and they can only horde so much, it will run out.
Same here, Pamela. And they want to cull the population.
I believe that the GEBs will cull the wrong people. Not all of them will be the wrong people, but tech has become so complex that no one person knows it all start to finish.
=> (Tech geeks here, please feel free to correct me if you or someone you know the entire process, start to finish, of say, how to make all of the components for cell phones and the send/receive/route gear for two cell phones to communicate.)
All it takes is one key person missing from our complex processes and you’re soon producing bricks.
I have faith in the hubris of our GEB ‘Elites’ that it will cause them to get rid of a few key people. Some of those key people are the dirty fingernail people that know how to keep the machines running that make the various components and modern gear we are so used to having.
I don’t think we can step back in tech just a little, either. Who knows how to make vacuum tubes for shortwave radios? Maybe someone here, but most of us are older and won’t be around to be forced at gunpoint to help out with tech that’s just a few generations back.
I hope the GEBs enjoy ordering spares for their aircraft by telegraph.
Oops!
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If you want to see just how few people are truly expendable, have a read of this classic essay:
I, Pencil | Mises Institute
That’s a good link to illustrate my point. Thanks, Jonas.
BTW, I can make a pencil, and the tools to make said pencil, start to finish, but it would be many pencil-generations back.
I can’t make the modern eraser and the eraser assembly on the pencil end, though. I could hand form the sheet and a finished eraser holder, but I don’t know enough about erasers.
So I Pencil’s ‘point’ is valid.
“Would someone please wake up the MSM to have them report honestly?”
That’s not going to happen. The MSM has a climate change agenda and the truth doesn’t matter to them.
This seems to be correct, just like Paris no-one committed to doing anything that will make any material difference to global emissions, and thus (on the theory) to global temperatures.
But the very alarming thing to the British must have been the antics of their Prime Minister and of Alok Sharma, a Cabinet Minister and the head of COP26, and the Chair of the Climate Action Implementation Committee.
A joint press conference at the end of the gathering showed that they do really believe this stuff. And the Conservative government really will be bent, along with all the other political parties in the UK, Labour, Liberals, Scottish Nationals, on the mad program Johnson has announced:
Move all cars to EVs
Move all gas heating to heatpumps
Move all gas supply to hydrogen
Move almost all power generation to wind and solar
They had the glazed look of true believers. Sharma earlier had tears in his eyes when announcing the change in the draft. They do really believe in the story of the climate emergency, as does the BBC and Guardian who promote it at every opportunity, and even the Telegraph now doesn’t dare to voice any skepticism. Rational discussion of the science of climate is now impossible in the UK. As indeed is rational discussion of the science of sex and gender and many other things, but that is another subject
And they also believe that the above UK program is not only possible but beneficial in some way.
It remains to be seen if they will seriously move to implementation, but if they do, and its looking more and more likely, prepare for a crash in the UK economy of a scale never previously seen, an epic episode of self harm. And also expect it to have absolutely no effect on the level of global CO2 emissions.
The age of stupidity, not Aquarius.
Can anybody kindly tell me just how much “global warming” there has been in the last 20+ years??? I keep hearing all about “global warming/climate change” but nobody actually puts a number on it in that time frame. As said before a one & one-tenth degree Celcius rise in temperature over 150+ years doesn’t look particularly scary, & it certainly looks like global warming has stopped, at least for the time being with no warming of any significance since 1998
Dr. Roy Spencer updates the graph of satellite data every month, available on his website.
Cheers I forgot to look at that site, Muppet!!!
The “forecasts” all forgot about the sun(see above). The current solar grand minimum is responsible for the lack of “rise in temperature” during the 2020’s. “global warming” is likely to disappear for 10-20 years or more. Up yours to climate models and greedy politicians.
The “how much” tells you nothing about the cause.
“The TOA net flux was +0.75 W/m2 in 2020. The data shown in Figure 1, Figure 2 and Figure 3 suggest that the root cause for the positive TOA net flux and, hence, for a further accumulation of energy during the last two decades was a declining outgoing shortwave flux and not a retained LW flux. ” – Hans-Rolf Dübal and Fritz Vahrenholt, October 2021
The bottom line is basically that all the warming was due to solar energy reaching the surface due to a reduction in clouds. The reduction in clouds was likely due to the PDO going positive in 2014.
If one were to correct the temperature data for the warming caused by solar energy we would likely have a 20 year cooling trend. Sounds like a job for Super Willis.
The UK has taken over from Germany as the crash test dummies. France seem like it is going to bail and go back to Nuke power stations because regardless of the cost and delays at least it works.
Yes wasn’t this what that classic poem “IF” was about?
“If you can keep your cool while all about you are losing theirs . . . “
I disagree. Trans activism, micro-aggression and “we are all racist” themes are just different fronts in the same war against the industrialised nations and the “liberal-democratic” tradition. While the climate movement seeks to undermine wealth, prosperity and material well-being, these relatively late arrivals are designed to erase our sense of shared history, the knowledge of who we are, what we are, our collective and individual senses of self-worth, and what our place in the world is.
It’s all part of the softening-up process. This “war against the west” is being fought without guns and bombs, but with ideas. And so far, the bastards are winning. Hands down.
The 18th-century Enlightenment has had a good run. I shall miss it.
Hi Smart Rock,
This is well outlined by KGB defector Yuri Bezmanov during an interveiew in 1985 and even back then he admitted with respect to the demoralisation of America
“… previously comrade Andropov and all his experts would not even dream of such a tremendous success…exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information, the facts tell nothing to him…”
which is why so many young people who have grown up hearing how the sky is falling becasue of reliable energy and mobility for all or most of their lives can’t understand why climastrolgist’s predicitions are hopelessly wrong or why whirlygigs and mirrors will never run a modern energy grid. Facts tell them nothing because the global warming dogma has been pumped into their ‘soft heads’ throughout their formative years.
I gather the former member of the KGB would be even more gob-smacked by the successful demoralisation of Blighty.
The interveiew is worth watching, the 15 minutes outlining the four stages of ideological subversion is here:
KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview. Explains KGB Manipulation of US Public Opinion – YouTube
the full interveiew is here:
Yuri Bezmenov (Full Interview) with G. Edward Griffin – YouTube
After Skool have made a video worth showing in high schools on the subject of mass psychosis which is obviously what we’re seeing on display at the annual COP-off, or whenever a mob of useful idiots congregate to ‘demand’ everyone agree with their demented world view:
MASS PSYCHOSIS – How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL (rumble.com)
“…The masses have never thirsted after truth, they turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them…”
Calculating from the wind turbine output this morning, if all the schemes to go electric actually happen – EVs, heat pumps, no fossil fuelled generation – then we will need 59 turbines for every one we have now. And when the wind blows most of them will stand idle.
JF
Even the Guardian admits failure, though it tries to put its best spin on it. And George Monbiot has a classic piece:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/14/cop26-last-hope-survival-climate-civil-disobedience
Its classic because, as well as admitting the failure, it proposes mass civil disobedience to force the authorities to adopt a climate changing, ie net zero, agenda.
And as invariably happens in all of these case, the ‘we’ who is supposed to engage in the mass civil disobedience is very different from the ‘we’ who, mathematically, need to reduce emissions.
The ‘we’ who need to reduce is everyone, including China and India. The ‘we’ who are being asked to engage in mass civil disobedience is the British.
One can only say, if this is your remedy, why not go and try it out in Tiananmen Square. Force the CCP to reduce. Don’t forget to end a postcard to let us know how it went.
I don’t think that inmates of CCP Re-Education Facilities are permitted such decadent things as communication with the outside world, I dare say a CCP appointed spokesperson will relay any necessary communications!!!
I read George Monbiot’s article yesterday and it was the most delusional piece of writing that I have ever read in my life. Clearly a number of greens in Britain have completely taken leave of their senses. The British media have gone totally insane too. I am now very worried about Britain’s economic prospects unless a halt is called to the proposed green “solutions” to beneficial global warming.
Yes, absolutely.
Green = gullible & naive!!!
It’s pretty funny .. one mans journey into the unhinged 🙂
Well yes, IF those “solutions” (sic) were to be implemented. But we’ve just seen in Flop 26 how they don’t get implemented. There was to be a total phase out of coal, which turned out to be a “plea” to reduce the use of coal, to which India said no way, and we all know that China, whatever it may say, is going to increase the use of coal.
I’m betting the same thing happens in the UK itself. The government will call for replacing all ICE cars with EV ones, but what happens when no one buys EVs? Is the government going to impound all of the ICEs, and give out free EVs? The government can call for all FF heaters to be replaced with heat pumps, but who is going to pay the 10,000 pounds to do that? Not the average person, and Boris is not going to pay it out of his own pocket.
None of these pie in the sky plans is going to take place. The most that happens is that they get added to the next ‘5 year plan’, then moved to the next 5 year plan, then….
We’ve had 2 years to save the planet for 30 years now, and yet nothing has been done, other than building a few unreliable power plants, which work sometimes, and then when they don’t FF plants take up the slack. That’s all that’s going to happen, because that’s all that realistically can happen.
I hope that you’re right about the green promises in Britain getting watered down to the point where nothing much actually happens. The problem is that the amount of climate change propaganda in the British media is now so all pervasive that I now not so sure what will actually happen. I think that a massive power blackout might now be necessary to wake people up to the disastrous effect of green policies.
Yes Monbiot made the same point I posted here recently –
when leftists can’t present a cogent proposition that people will adopt because of its appealing benefits, they always then resort to getting their way through regulation and force.
Why would India need to reduce any emission? Per capita emission is one-tenth of the Europe. Let Europe reduce its per capita emission to Indian level first.
The climate scammers should actually breathe a sigh of relief that emissions are not halved by 2030. The reason is the MLO pCO2 record would still keep marching upwards disproving the scam’s claim of a strong linkage between CO2 emissions and CO2 annual rise rate.
The idea behind the 100 billion USD from Copenhagen in 2009 was founded on the rich countries providing a fund that the poor countries could use to buy technology from the rich countries.
When the poor countries said they would rather spend the money at home, only a few gullible countries such as my own Norway still felt the urge to provide the money. According to our local worriers we are responsible for some unnamed damage somewhere, but for some reason we are not accountable for the massive increase in health and prosperity that came from Norwegian oil & gas.
Oh well….
Hei Anders, bra sagt!
I notice the Norwegian press are at pains to point out how Norway continues to produce the oil and gas that Europe still buys, while talking up the low emissions at home as an example of climate leadership while at the recent COP-off in Glesga. I note their tone is critical, I assume aimed at the green voters of Oslo who apparently don’t know which side their bread is buttered on while sipping their morning kaffe.
I’d be interested to know if any of the green voters, or the miljø centred parties of Oslo figure where NAV or HelseNorge would fund their generous budgets if not by oil production share and taxes; I’m fairly sure Tesla’s corporate tax payments in Norway won’t quite cover it.
Where’s the proposal to promptly phase out EU importation of oil from the middle east, given they feel so strongly about saving the world, and being virtuous examples of putting your economy where your mouth is? Why pick on coal? Why not oil and gas? Now that interfering with coal utilization is out of the question from here?
COPE 27’s proxy messiahs could propose an ambitious end to the importation of crude oil and its products throughout the EU by 2030.
See how that goes.
Heavy snowfall in French Alps last week, France announced two more nuclear power stations while Germany dismantling theirs.
Comes late December or early January, Vlad Putin strolls into Doneck region. Outraged Germany has no choice but to boycott Russian gas.
‘Hat bitte jemand einen Ersatzeimer Kohle?’
Yeah France is doing an about turn and march the other way. I think they look at the UK and think not going there to become dependent totally on other countries to hold up your grid.
We all expected so much more from the non-binding, unratified, unenforceable “agreements” emerging from these self-congratulatory parties thrown by our leftist elites. I really thought they were going to fix the world this time with their platitudes. Gosh darn it all anyway.
Don’t take if to heart. The COP plan, global warming, climate change, and all the other climate buzzwords were never based on science. The all were based on lucrative political policies to control money and power.
Maybe according to ‘the science’ but not according to empirical science as no definitive level of human attribution has been established and no number for transient climate sensitivity has been precisely defined.
You under estimate their ability to adjust and redefine 🙂
“Keep temperatures within 1.5°C of pre-industrial times” – not too hard, it was about 10°C warmer about 55Myrs ago. Heck, it may have been as much as 3-4 higher just 8Kyrs ago, so not really a hard target.
You know why they are so desperate, why there has been so much hype in the last few years? We are coming up to a period of cooling, and they want to have cut CO2 so they can claim credit.
If we dont cut CO2 and get cooling, their theory, and their globalist movement, is junk.
Exactly. They know their time to claim credit for natural climate change is fast disappearing.
You have no idea how many careers and jobs and profitable greenwash companies and charities are at risk if climate change turns into a damp squib.
and may they all rot in bankrupt purgatory when it happens.
So more people will be freezing to death, and they will claim credit for that? I love it!
So thank a coal-burning power plant!
What a waste of money, time and resources this whole charade really is. They’ve been at this since 1995, and all this hot air and gobbledygook has had ZERO effect on “the climate™”.
Summer follows spring, as winter follows autumn. Sometimes it’s a bit wetter than average, sometimes it’s a bit drier, and quite frankly if winters in the northern hemisphere are less frigid than they were in the 19th century, I’m not complaining.
“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it.”
– Laurence J.Peter, The Peter Principle.
Failure? No, this was a resounding success! It means we can do it all again next year (but please, nowhere more than 30º from the equator) and another year on the gravy train! Another year of project fear, and rewards for zero effort. Excuse me while I practise my sad face and crocodile tears for Sharm-el-sheik 2022.
The weather in Egypt in November is usually gorgeous so delegates should be able to combine a visit to the Pyramids or a Nile cruise with their activism.
The amount of new coal planned and being commissioned was already falling pre COP26, outside of China and a few other states.
As of July 2021, China and the countries with the next five biggest pre-construction coal plant pipelines (India, Viet Nam, Indonesia, Turkey, and Bangladesh) account for over four-fifths of the world’s remaining planned coal plant. apart from India the others committed to a further reduction and to phase out of coal.
Action by these six countries could remove 82 percent of the pre-construction pipeline. And 4 of them are now moving on that. The remaining pre-construction pipeline is spread across a further 31 countries, 16 of which have just one project. And some of those are Chinese funded projects… and China is supposedly not funding overseas coal.
Last year, outside China, less than 12 GW of coal plant was commissioned and, taking into account closures, the global coal fleet outside China declined by 17.2 GW in 2020. Outside China, there was a marked slowdown in 2020 commissioning. India, notably, grew its coal fleet by only net 0.7 GW in 2020, after adding an average 15.0 GW a year from 2010 to 2019. There had been cancellations of future coal power across the globe pre COP: Bangladesh, Japan, S Korea and Vietnam in particular.
Coal is on the way out now, for certain, even in India.
and China? who knows.
Griff, you should apply for a job in the Guardian. You would fit right in with the likes of George Monbiot. I am assuming that you are not actually George.
He is a columnist there, writes under well known name Mon’idiot.
(something gone wrong with the spellchecker)
Mondbiot as in man on the moon, lunatic. See :
The Baron Munchausen meets the King of the Moon (4min) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXRp3qWJDWA
Unhinged as someone below remarked!
Mon’idiot is just fine, otherwise blame spell check.
You sound a bit desperate, and it’s phase down not phase out. Coal is here to stay for as long as developing countries need it.
If griff has his way, all countries will need to become developing countries soon.
You’re such a useful idiot to these lying repressive authoritarian regimes….
China built the equivalent of more than one large coal plant every week in 2020.
China built more than three times as much new coal-fired power capacity in 2020 as all other countries in the world combined.
China has 247 GW of coal power projects under development – a 21 percent increase from 2019 and nearly six times Germany’s entire coal-fired capacity.
….and China? who knows. Not you obviously.
VW ran two coal powered stations for their own use, now converted to gas they are now reliant on the Russians. Why would the west put themselves at the mercy of Chinese Coal for manufacturing and Russian gas I do not know. Of course there is now a renewed push for nuclear so someone has woken up.
And VW along with BMW, Audi sent its HPC compute-centers to Norway (hydro) and Iceland (geotherm). Right now VW is making profits only in China. If the greens take over kiss Auto AG goodbye.
CRAP 26 failed – guess why, coal is not going away.
They’ll need lots of coal to power this process.
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2019/02/27/Scientists-turn-CO2-back-into-coal/4711551233927/#:~:text=To%20turn%20CO2%20into%20coal%2C%20scientists%20developed%20a,added%2C%20a%20current%20is%20run%20through%20the%20solution.
I love coal.
I don’t love coal. This is what coal meant to Britain at the end…
All very well if you scrape it up with diggers, but 2miles down and 5 miles out under the sea is a bad place to be if anything goes wrong.
I went down a coal mine once.
I wouldnt work down there for less than a £100k a year, and I have sympathy for miners who didnt want to. But the answer wasnt more money, it was shut the mines down and switch to gas.
And burning it produced more radioactive waste than a nuclear power station.
Technology has changed
Too crunchy for my taste.
Sure Griff 🙂
Yet Australia is committed to selling coal for decades to come and we have been very clear on it
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211108-australia-vows-to-sell-coal-for-decades
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/scott-morrison-says-coal-industry-will-be-around-for-decades-to-come/4adf402c-bf32-497f-8a53-459a14640ed1
Whatever market there is we will supply as there is no good reason not to sell into it.
Australia has a bad habit of annoying customers – China over COVID and France over nukes.
See former Labor PM Paul Keating this week :
Australia will pay a price for its shambolic foreign policy
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/540108-paul-keating-australia-foreign-policy/
Pithy statements like describing Britain, compared to China, as “an old theme park collapsing into the Atlantic.”
Australia couldn’t give a toss about France if they didn’t have Nukes.
Here are the tiny trade figures and 3 to 1 in France favour and $3B in total
https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-country/fra/partner/aus
China is a very different story because they are our largest trade partner and we have a massive trade surplus to them.
Keating has always had a strong appreciation of his own wit and wisdom.
In case you didn’t read carefully, Griff, India got a pass this year for any coal power reductions until the nest COP. Then India might just withdraw from the COP process.
“..outside of China and a few other states, ..”
“Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”
Outside of China and India, use of coal is falling.
However, when you include China and India, use of coal is exploding.
I love how griff tries to throw out the two largest (by far) users of coal in order to make his irrelevant point.
Secondly, I just love how he believes that government mandates prove that his idiotic theories are correct.
That could be a good argument for getting us out of the Paris Agreement again. All griff would need to do is amend the phrase to: “Outside of China, India and the United States, use of coal is falling.” (lol)
How is it today in Great Missenden? For the majority on this site, the character Griff resides in ”2019 the village post town and postcode of HP16, which encompasses Little Kingshill, was revealed to be the most affluent place in England”.
Here resides Roald Dahl of ‘fairye story’ fame. I see you are trying to compete Griff.
griffter, you’ve been schooled on this before. Coal production, worldwide, dropped slightly in 2016 but is projected to rise again. Coal is NOT on the way out now, for certain, you despicable liar.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvajiramias.com%2Fcurrent-affairs%2Fglobal-coal-consumption%2F5d6232fa1d5def7c5afc9ae1%2F&psig=AOvVaw2nJv5VIWqPcpBskr3RszuT&ust=1637085539336000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAgQjRxqFwoTCJCm8ob5mvQCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD
Paul Homewood – You are speaking as if this Draft Agreement was addressed to a thinking audience. If it were, one would have to be concerned with such matters as accuracy, validity, logic and the prestige of science. But it isn’t. It is addressed to the public.
(To paraphrase Ayn Rand “Atlas Shrugged”)
In one thing they were right: It is the decisive decade.
In which this entire “green” edifice will finally come crumbling down under the weight of hard, stark reality. I just hope the worst ofthe damage can be averted.
I hope so, too, but am not optimistic…
I suspect that the weight of hard, stark reality that finally brings the hot-air affect circus crashing down will be the exhaustion of other people’s money that the rock show and it’s green tech monuments depend upon for sustinence.
That exhaustion will come about due to a second great depression which has been looming for as long as the idea that debt is an asset was taken seriously and the public ‘demanded’ copious spending on vacuuous horse shit of various flavours. I wonder if the knee jerk house arrest response to Wuhan flu wasn’t set up as an ideal scapegoat, e.g.”…sorry folks we’re in a depression, we can blame covid for that…” as if pissing up a few trillion each year for the last three decades paying for junk science climastrology and life support for whirly gigs and mirrors had nothing to do with it.
In any case, when entire nations are unemployed and starving, endulgent luxuries like fashionable political causes fall out of fashion faster than an Airbus missing a wing falls from the sky. So contrary to the useful idiot’s wet dreams about coal being on the way out, reliable coal based energy will predictably see an urgent resurgence, while unreliable energy virtue signalling, plus a whole raft of other wasteful inessentials will suddenly find themselves left to whither on the vine sans-subsidies.
The worst of the damage though will come from the ‘big war’ that usually follows a big fiscal crash; no doubt the big club will make a tidy profit out of all stages of the hard, stark reality that’s in the post and when the dust settles, China and then India will emerge as the world policeman.