The Emperor Penguin Extinction Scam & Sea Ice Dynamics

Jim Steele

The Emperor Penguin Extinction Scam & Sea Ice Dynamics

Despite climate model predictions that Emperor Penguins face imminent extinction due to rising CO2, observations and scientific evidence reveal Emperors are thriving and increasing, as sea ice and Antarctic temperatures are behaving the opposite of model predictions

Jim Steele is Director emeritus of San Francisco State University’s Sierra Nevada Field Campus, authored Landscapes and Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism, and proud member of CO2 Coalition

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Oldseadog
October 1, 2021 2:10 am

Another case of the Emperor’s new clothes?

I’ll get my own coat thanks.

Andy H
October 1, 2021 2:36 am

Penguins and polar bears seem to have survived the many warm periods in the past without going extinct. Maybe they can survive more than one type of weather.

Reply to  Andy H
October 1, 2021 3:49 am

Despite the fact that Antarctica is cooling, not warming.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Krishna Gans
October 1, 2021 5:47 am

2 degrees C since 1979.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 1, 2021 2:37 am

It is too bad we can’t speak with these birds. They have been around a very long time and would have wonderful stories of how some years there was more ice and other years less and so what!

Joao Martins
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 1, 2021 6:34 am

I had an opportunity to do that, not with penguins but with my grand-aunt and grand-uncles who lived near the northern border of Portugal: some years with more snow, some years with less, some years with none… They all died about 30 years ago of old age, not of “climate change”.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Joao Martins
October 1, 2021 8:59 am

What a great opportunity to preserve some of the history of the country.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 1, 2021 11:21 am

We in Portugal have good met data Pamela, we do not need to rely on the memories of older people! The question is, we do not have an insurance against some government ordering to mess them with a “nomogenization” and destroy the original archives to free space… The archives of the research station where I worked all my life are lost (created in 1936; I was admitted in 1973; it was extinguished after I left, around 2005). With it was gone a great deal of the history of the evolution of Portuguese agronomy. Every scientific institution of this country has the same risk.

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fretslider
October 1, 2021 3:07 am

Another triumph of narrative over science for the media and as per usual, no corrections are ever made – even if a paper is retracted or withdrawn.

My all time favourite penguin scare came from the illustrious Chris Turney – emeritus professor of ignorance at UNSW

“Penguins Don’t Migrate, they’re dying”

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  fretslider
October 1, 2021 5:48 am

The polar bears eat them.

n.n
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 1, 2021 6:01 am

Yes, that was my first guess, too. [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] climate cooling… warming… change is a first-order forcing of [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform in endangered populations. The bears are opportunistic anti-vegans who follow the meat products.

Ed Hanley
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 1, 2021 4:06 pm

South pole, dude

Not Chicken Little
Reply to  Ed Hanley
October 1, 2021 6:12 pm

Dark humor is like food under Stalin – not everyone gets it.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  fretslider
October 1, 2021 12:16 pm

The rest of the story is that while in Antarctica Turney wept when he came across thousands of dead chicks which he assumed had died because if global warming. Previous visiting scientists had sampled the chicks and found them to have died over a period of several hundreds of years! Their are no predators and the birds had been freeze dried!

Sorry, don’t recall the link.

SxyxS
October 1, 2021 3:17 am

No problem.
They will pull Attenborough out of their butts
and he will make them go extinct twice in a single documentary.
Maybe he can push some of them into the abyss of his previous documentary that killed all the walrussians as result of extinct polar bear attac…global warming,
to make it loik more convincing and spectacular.

Reply to  SxyxS
October 1, 2021 3:56 am

Sabaton have their song “Attack of the dead men” – maybe they should follow it up with “Attack of the extinct polar bears”

https://youtu.be/-AFdwoyNT24

fretslider
Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
October 1, 2021 4:42 am

Some things are done better

Spotify – Sewn in a Dream

Warning – Contains Thin Ice

SxyxS
Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
October 1, 2021 9:31 am

I’ve seen the movie “the return of the luvin dead”

Loydo
October 1, 2021 4:13 am

“…Emperor Penguins face imminent extinction”

Who is saying this?

fretslider
Reply to  Loydo
October 1, 2021 4:38 am

Who hasn’t been saying it?

“Emperor penguins at risk of extinction, scientists warn” – The Guardian

Redge
Reply to  Loydo
October 1, 2021 4:41 am

These people if you call 2100 imminent

Here, we discuss fundamental concepts for assessing climate change risks to species using the example of the emperor penguin (Aptenodytes forsteri), currently being considered for protection under the US Endangered Species Act (ESA).

J.R.
Reply to  Redge
October 1, 2021 6:23 pm

Does the U.S. Endangered Species Act apply outside of the United States? Who is going to enforce it in Antarctica? As an American, I would hate to think we’re engaging in wildlife imperialism!

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Loydo
October 1, 2021 4:43 am

If you listen to the video it tells you. Try listening.

LdB
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 1, 2021 5:49 am

She is too busy flapping her gums to listen to anything or anyone

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 1, 2021 5:49 am

Loydo never listens, to anything.

John Tillman
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 1, 2021 10:34 am

The voice of its master in its head.

Jay Willis
Reply to  Loydo
October 1, 2021 4:51 am

Your answer is in the video that forms the basis of this post.

Climate believer
Reply to  Loydo
October 1, 2021 5:05 am

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/gcb.15806

Stephanie Jenouvrier.

Are you getting your knickers in a twist over the word “imminent”, ok let’s use their wording “threats within the foreseeable future”, is that better?

They also say “The emperor penguin (Aptenodytes forsteri) is an iconic species threatened by climate change”, that is just not true.

The study basically admits they don’t know shit, but they’ll take the hottest model RCP 8.5 and throw it at the penguins and see what sort of alarmist stink we can make to freak everybody out, get the media frothing at the mouth, and get the bucks rolling in.

Rinse and repeat, Scientism.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Loydo
October 1, 2021 5:53 am

Your mob are saying it. Look it up.

Reply to  Loydo
October 1, 2021 7:00 am

LOL. Desperate to deflect Loydo?? Try watching the video. Its spelled out so that even a total idiot would know who is propagandizing the extinction

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Loydo
October 1, 2021 9:48 am

“who is saying this”?

Uh, all of your usual climate scientologists.

School assignment for Friday for Loydo.

Google “emperor penguins extinction”.

Report back with all the hits, there are a lot.

Please list alphabetically and by date.

That took me 3 seconds Loydo.

Redge
Reply to  Loydo
October 1, 2021 9:51 am

That shut you up didn’t it Loydo!

2hotel9
October 1, 2021 4:24 am

It is all lies, climate is just fine, animals are just fine, humans are just fine. Hell, their big headline yesterday was about Ivory Billed Woodpeckers being extinct. Well they claimed this before and no one listened. Why, because they can not prove the birds are extinct, all they can do is claim it. Lies, nothing but lies. Where is their actual, physical, 100% irrefutable proof of any of these claims? They have none and they never will. Nothing but lies.

fretslider
Reply to  2hotel9
October 1, 2021 5:16 am

The animals are fine until they try to cuff them.

2hotel9
Reply to  fretslider
October 1, 2021 12:31 pm

You put the cuffs on the Polar Bear, I’ll stand over here and watch. 😉

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  2hotel9
October 1, 2021 9:15 am

A few years ago there were some reports of Ivory Billed Woodpeckers calling in the Atchafalaya. The call is very distinctive apparently. It would be nice if they were still extant, that is one big and impenetrable swamp, no telling what is hiding in there.

Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 1, 2021 9:31 am

I know people involved in the recent search for Ivory-billed Woodpecker. John “Fitz” Fitzpatrick the director of Cornell’s Lab of Ornithology pushed the search for the extinct woodpecker as a fundraising tactic despite many serious ornithologists objecting. Fitz didn’t like the recent extinct designation because he wants people to keep looking

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Jim Steele
October 1, 2021 9:44 am

It couldn’t hurt to keep one’s ears open for the distinctive calls.

Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 1, 2021 11:35 am

Of course. With the ever-growing number of birders and citizen scientists, if it is still alive someone will see it.

My problem with Fitz is he has politicized birding with dubious science for the sake of funding ploys

I wrote about his efforts in Peru, in Elevator to Extinction Myths

https://perhapsallnatural.blogspot.com/2020/09/the-escalator-to-extinction-myth.html

John Tillman
Reply to  Jim Steele
October 1, 2021 11:20 am

There might be enough viable DNA in musem specimens to resurrect the ivory-billed and imperial woodpeckers, using egg cells from other species in their genus. The mitochndrial DNA would be different, but otherwise the birds would be members of the probably extinct species.

A Cuban ivory-billed woodpecker was sighted in 1987., which observation is well supported.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
October 1, 2021 12:52 pm

I don’t know if their call is instinctive or (most likely) learned, but recordings of it could be played. However, other behaviors it would have to learn from related species, whose calls hatchlings would also hear.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
October 1, 2021 1:55 pm

The size difference between extant auk species and great auks might present surrogacy problems, but IMO it’s worth a try to bring back great auks. Also Carolina parakeets and passenger pigeons.

Probably not enough material for Caribbean monk seals.

2hotel9
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 1, 2021 12:40 pm

When I was a teenager we hunted and crawfished in sections of Atchafalaya, still have family scattered from Houma to Dulac and west to Texas line. Lots a of things in there ain’t been seen in a long time.

John Tillman
Reply to  2hotel9
October 1, 2021 3:47 pm

2hotel9
Reply to  John Tillman
October 1, 2021 4:07 pm

You done be did it now! Sitting here jonesing for hot crawdads and cold beer. I’d settle for shrimp even. 😉

Yooper
October 1, 2021 5:21 am

Hmmm…. maybe all those doom and gloom “scientists” ought to see what’s really going on with the penguins:

Duane
October 1, 2021 5:40 am

Good skeptical review of the warmunists’ claims. Essentially, it comes down to cherry picking for the purpose of promoting a narrative, rather than a thoughtful overall assessment of the species entire population.

A similar kind of scam could be the following:

Study the population dynamics of small towns in America. Show that small towns are losing population to medium and larger cities (which has in fact been the story in America for the last century). Except leave out the part that only small towns were studied, instead of the entire US population. Ipso facto, the human race in America is endangered and about to disappear!

The same trick could be repeated and come to diametrically opposite conclusions and false premises. Study the total population trends of the entire US, see that the population is growing, but fail to mention that the study did not address the population trends in specific sized cities or regions. Then declare that the population of small towns is increasing rapidly – which would of course be entirely false.

That’s what these warmunist researchers are doing. Cherry pick data, then proclaim falsely that global trends are proven by the cherry picked data.

Duane
Reply to  Duane
October 1, 2021 5:44 am

Reminds me of the ancient Indian parable of the three blind men and an elephant:

The parable of the blind men and an elephant originated in the ancient Indian subcontinent, from where it has been widely diffused. It is a story of a group of blind men who have never come across an elephant before and who learn and imagine what the elephant is like by touching it. Each blind man feels a different part of the elephant’s body, but only one part, such as the side or the tusk. They then describe the elephant based on their limited experience and their descriptions of the elephant are different from each other. In some versions, they come to suspect that the other person is dishonest and they come to blows. The moral of the parable is that humans have a tendency to claim absolute truth based on their limited, subjective experience as they ignore other people’s limited, subjective experiences which may be equally true.[1][2]

Richard Page
Reply to  Duane
October 1, 2021 5:56 pm

I heard that story years ago as the 3 flies and the elephant – same parable though.

Robert Alfred Taylor
Reply to  Duane
October 1, 2021 3:09 pm

I recommend a small inexpensive book to everyone: How to Lie With Statistics by Darrell Huff, It is old, 1950s, so multiply U.S. dollar amounts by ten or twenty. It seems the warmists are using it as a text book, rather than using it to avoid false and misleading methods.

n.n
October 1, 2021 5:55 am

They can join the World Walrus Foundation (WWF), a joint project of walruses and seals that are threatened by climate climate change and resurgent polar bear populations. Perhaps other species that have declared endangered or extinct, then rediscovered in silent springs and reported in darkness.

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Joao Martins
October 1, 2021 6:28 am

Come on! This is not news nor original!

Everyone knows that there are more penguins because there are less polar bears eating them!…

gDavid
Reply to  Joao Martins
October 1, 2021 9:15 am

Joao, thanks for the best laugh I’ve had in a long time!!

Joao Martins
Reply to  gDavid
October 1, 2021 1:13 pm

You are welcome! Laughing is good for health!

H.R.
Reply to  Joao Martins
October 1, 2021 9:15 am

Is it too late to save the Antarctic polar bears?

My understanding is they are dying from CO2 and diabetes; the CO2 and all that sugar in the Coke they drink.

It’s True! I saw it on TV.

Duane
Reply to  H.R.
October 1, 2021 10:39 am

Sorry – polar bears never lived in Antarctica … they’re actually arctic bears, not polar bears.

H.R.
Reply to  Duane
October 1, 2021 10:42 am

But, but, but… I saw them sharing their Cokes with penguins.

October 1, 2021 9:22 am

My Videos must be worrying the alarmists media. Twitter and Facebook have again blocked me. Although the blocks have only been temporary so far, it appears to be a threat of what’s to come if I dont join the Groupthink. What’s interesting is both Twit and FB block me at the same time. Combined with LinkedIn banning skeptics, Youtube altering the number of views and LIkes, Twitter removing some of my Followers, and the efforts of Steyer and Stacy Abrams trying to get the Coalition banned from Facebook, and identical alarmist headlines throughout the media, there is strong evidence of an orchestrated effort to only give the public one alarmist view to keep the public fearful!

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CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Jim Steele
October 1, 2021 11:05 am

Jim, I suggest that perhaps you are now beginning to know what being Winston Smith from Orwell’s “Nineteen-Eighty-four” must have been like.

According to what I’ve heard, legislation in Washington to make the social media outlets public utilities would prohibit them from censoring and blocking points of view that the Facebook and Twitter hierarchy don’t like. Don’t know if we’ll ever see it though as long as Biden is in office.

Wikipedia’s write-up on the subject…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media_as_a_public_utility

“Social media as a public utility is a theory postulating that social networking sites (such as Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, Instagram, Tumblr, Snapchat etc.) are essential public services that should be regulated by the government, in a manner similar to how electric and phone utilities are typically government regulated. It is based on the notion that social media platforms have monopoly power and broad social influence.[1]

Jeff Labute
October 1, 2021 9:08 pm

Great video, Thanks! I more than enjoyed it.
I did a quick google of individuals who claim penguins are going extinct and I would say there is little critical thought in any quick info I read. Yet, it is hard to understand why an expensive education is used to over-simplify, misrepresent, and deceive while attempting to blend their own scientific research around a political or popular narrative. I am glad many people are incapable of casting skepticism aside.

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