Biden Democrats Pursue High Cost Climate Change Domestic Energy Agenda

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Michel; Four weeks ago, the Biden administration was reduced to begging OPEC to produce more oil, to prevent disastrous gasoline pump price rises caused by Biden’s attempts to shut down the US energy industry. If you think the Biden administration might have learned anything from this humiliating experience, think again.

House bill would eliminate natural gas, impose sweeping changes on economy

From clean energy to EV chargers, wide-ranging bill would have lasting effects.

TIM DE CHANT –  9/11/2021, 6:47 AM

President Joe Biden’s climate ambitions will face a critical test on Monday as a major portion of the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill comes up for a vote. If it passes, the sprawling legislation will push the American economy to rein in its carbon emissions by spurring advancements in clean energy, electric vehicles, grid modernization, and more.

On the supply side, oil and gas companies would have to overhaul their operations to reduce methane leaks throughout their operations. Currently, around 1.5 percent to 4 percent of methane seeps out of pipelines, gas fields, and refineries, depending on the estimate. The proposed law would require producers to plug a lot of leaks to bring total methane emissions down to 0.2 percent of sales. If the producers don’t succeed, they would be assessed a fee that would help reduce greenhouse gas emissions from other oil and gas operations and clean up lingering pollution in communities near refineries and other facilities.

It’s unlikely that the bill will reach Biden’s desk as written. Manchin, who chairs the Senate Energy and Natural Resources committee, will have significant input. But Democrats think that the recent spate of extreme weather makes a strong case for action sooner than later. 

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Will Biden go begging to OPEC again, when this latest attack on energy causes gasoline prices rise even further?

Because it is not just natural gas which will be affected by the proposed methane restrictions. Crude oil production will also be hammered by these proposed laws, because oil wells frequently also produce a lot of natural gas. That is why oil wells need separators. Any crackdown on methane will also impose massive new costs on the US domestic gasoline production line.

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Tom Halla
September 11, 2021 10:13 am

The greens want to play silly buggers with the epitome of evil, the fossil fuel industry, and do not care much about the actual effects or costs. As it is a matter of morality, not a good faith attempt to reduce pollution, they are immune to considerations of costs and side effects.

September 11, 2021 10:20 am

Biden and Dems plan to kill our economy and what’s left of our competitive industries by a thousand cuts while further boosting China’s economy through solar power mandates.

Reply to  John
September 11, 2021 10:25 am

The thousand cuts have been replaced by millions of jabs, and Crazy Joe Stolen will not quit his evil until Satan calls him home.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
September 11, 2021 11:53 am
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
September 11, 2021 12:17 pm

Can’t wait for the planet to be W and Cankles and W free.

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Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
September 11, 2021 12:23 pm

It gets “better”:

Biden Regime Issues Statement Praising Taliban as ‘Businesslike and Professional’

Reply to  Scissor
September 11, 2021 12:23 pm

America is failing under Biden and cronies.

Following is a reminder of what you once were – and can be again:

this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

Regards, Allan

Address Delivered at the Dedication of the Cemetery at Gettysburg
Abraham Lincoln
November 19, 1863
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Carlo, Monte
September 11, 2021 12:39 pm

This is making its way around:

September 11, 2021 2:18 pm

Lincoln, the first of the great Constitution thrashers.

Mark L. Gilbert
Reply to  AndyHce
September 11, 2021 8:21 pm

okay, ima need a bit more explanation on that. How did Lincoln thrash the constitution?

Mark Whitney
Reply to  Mark L. Gilbert
September 12, 2021 6:11 am

It was treason to declare war on the Southern states by Constitutional definition. And despite the odious nature of slavery, it was protected by the Constitution.
In addition, the federal taxation structure was unjust and disproportionately penalized the South in favor of the more populous North.
Lincoln set the stage for the growth of extraconstitutional executive power now carried to the extreme by both branches of the Party. He imprisoned journalists unfavorable to him. Indeed, he can be said to be the father of federal excess.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Mark Whitney
September 12, 2021 6:23 am

Lincoln did stretch the powers of the President and the federal government, but a traitor for declaring “war on the Southern states”? I think you’ll find that he fought the Confederacy, and it was to keep the southern states within the US. It was the Confederates who committed treason.

Mark Whitney
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
September 12, 2021 6:51 am

I suppose Washington, Jefferson and Madison, etc. were also guilty of treason by the same standard, but they set a precedent for the legitimacy of declaring independence from tyranny.
On the other hand, declaring war on the states, any of them, is treason by definition. If in fact the Southern states were not recognized as independent, than declaring war on them was treason by the letter of the law. Remember, The United States was referred to in the the Constitution as “them” not “it” thus the Union itself, the federal authority, was not an independent legal entity. That entity is the illegitimate authority we now find ourselves subject to rather than it subject to us as designed.

The Jeffersonian ideal was such that entry into the Union was voluntary, and any breach of the contract known as the Constitution could abrogate the instrument and withdrawal from the Union was a reasonable response. In that case declaring war on the independent states of the CSA was likewise an act of tyranny.
Either way you cut it, Lincoln was the villain.

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Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Mark Whitney
September 12, 2021 7:04 am

Who fired the first shots?

Mark Whitney
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
September 12, 2021 7:07 am

Carlo, the more important question is who initiated aggression. I submit it was the side of Lincoln.

Reply to  Carlo, Monte
September 12, 2021 7:36 am

The north was illegally occupying southern territory, and in the process of building up their position.

Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
September 12, 2021 7:35 am

There was nothing in the constitution that requires states to stay in the union forever. They were within their constitutional rights to leave. It was a trashing of the constitution to force them to stay.

Frank from NoVA
September 11, 2021 7:39 pm

Sorry Allan. The premise that the national government can do anything it wants dates back to Lincoln. America is failing under Biden and (his) cronies because it already failed under Lincoln and his cronies.

Reply to  John
September 11, 2021 10:28 am

Yep: the same thing is happening over here, in Blighty! And the MSM tried to make out that Bozo Johnson was the British Trump! {Oh, if only.}

Mike Lowe
Reply to  IanE
September 11, 2021 1:18 pm

Not while Carrie has a degree of influence!

B Clarke
September 11, 2021 10:32 am

Looks like Manchin hold the balance,

“The coal miner transition plan for coal is conspicuous in its absence, ” Manchin holds millions of dollars in coal , he’s not going to be impressed if there’s no transition plan, and what about his investment and others?

Reply to  B Clarke
September 11, 2021 1:51 pm

The Party will just shower his family with money, contracts and exclusive legislative carve-outs.

B Clarke
Reply to  AWG
September 11, 2021 2:12 pm

Which party his own party or the democrates ,his own party are united against the Bill,

He represents coal-rich West Virginia and the coalUnion are a powerful lobby,

I’m putting my money on the union and the republicans.

We shall see Wednesday.

September 11, 2021 10:36 am

Yah…., but… the Dems are for the little guy… to get screwed 9 ways from Sunday.

They Could.Not.Care.Less about the little guy despite anything they say.

That’s the observable facts on the ground.

Reply to  H.R.
September 11, 2021 11:11 am

Democrats love poor people. That’s why they work so hard to make sure there are as many of them as possible.

Reply to  MarkW
September 11, 2021 4:01 pm

C’mon man…Joey has the Biden Touch…everything he touches turns to crap…whatever Joey does – do the opposite and you will never lose.

September 11, 2021 10:38 am

Isn’t it strange that Biden and Obama have the exact same strategy in all aspects?
As if both are owned by the very same people and just execute plans that were written long time ago by someone else.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  SxyxS
September 11, 2021 10:49 am

It sure sounds like it, doesn’t it.

One of my questions is: Why does everything Obama and Biden do, advance the cause of radical Islamic extremists? It’s almost like it was intentional. Whether intentional or not, noone has helped radical Islam more than Obama and Biden. If it’s not intentional, then the only other conclusion to come to is they are both completely clueless and are living in a delusional world.

As an example of Biden’s cluelessness, I read yesterday that Biden is going to refuse medical care at Veterans hospitals across the country for any veteran who has no yet had a Wuhan virus vaccination. This is not going to play well, especially when we learn that Biden has exempted Postal Workers from having to get the vaccine. The Postal Unions give Democrats lots of money. Veterans don’t give much money to Democrats, so I guess that’s why we have them being treated differently.

I want to see Biden turn an unvaccinated veteran away from medical care. That ought to cause some sparks.

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B Clarke
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 11, 2021 11:14 am

And were has the vice president been hiding, not been seen besides the president’s side since the afghan withdrawal, I think she’s distancing herself from these controversial decisions, she’s waiting in the wings.

Reply to  B Clarke
September 11, 2021 1:55 pm

Veep Throat is out and about singing the praises of late-term abortion with the familiar My Body My Choice mantra, while at the same time, factions within The Party are telling Puddinghead to mouth the words The State’s Body, The State’s Choice in terms of the mRNA injections.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 11, 2021 11:43 am

Saw a guy in the supermarket this morning wearing Hiden/Cackles tee-shirt; was tempted to ask how this is working out for him, but held myself back.

Reply to  Carlo, Monte
September 11, 2021 12:55 pm

Wait until the pump price goes up another dollar, the ask.

Reply to  H.R.
September 11, 2021 1:57 pm

I dunno, we are entering into the Fall and Winter formulations which uses far cheaper, lower flash point ingredients. So the inflation may be hidden in part just in that transformation.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 11, 2021 12:57 pm

There is no question wether they help radical islam or not.
Wherever Obama started his wars isis& co appeared out of nothing with exactly the same intentions.
It is no coincidence that they leave weapons and money behind when they leave.
GW Bush even made the “mistake” to NOT secure weapon arsenals in Iraq so terrorists can get them.
This all goes against 1000s of years of most basic military knowledge and actions as the first thing you do is to take care of the enemies guns when you enter and the first thing you do when you laeve is to destroy military equipment you can’t take with you.

Isn’t it strange that Biden and Obama are trying to take guns from their own people while systematically arming terrorists?
Isn’t it strange that Obama supported Mexican drug cartels with military equipment and guns (fast&furious scandal)while trying to grab guns in America?
Isn’t it strange that the soviet proxy government lasted 3.5 years after the russians left Afghanistan but the proxy US government in kabul couldn’t last 3.5 minutes after US troops left?
Isn’t It strange that Opium production in Afghanistan went up by 2000 % after the USA entered Afghanistan.(a strategy that has been used since the cia and mayer lansky started smuggling heroin from Laos and Vietnam with Air America from that moment on when the hippie movement was started)
Isn’t it strange that the cloward piven strategy was invented at the same time with the intention to bancrupt your country with massive payments for refugees(end endless wars) to install a universal basic income.

As Roosevelt once said:”In politics nothing happens by accident .And if does you can bet it was planned that way”,
And that’s the reason why we are pushed towards a global government 70 years after one of the owners of the FED (who are the owners of the MiC ,which is the deep state)said
in front of the congress

“There will be a global government.Either by consent (AGW, Covid)
or by conquest((civil) war).

Tom Abbott
Reply to  SxyxS
September 12, 2021 9:29 am

I can’t read Obama or Biden’s minds but what I can see is that just about everything they have done, especially Biden, has been damaging to the United States and its allies.

Trump had to spend most of his time cleaning up the mess Obama and Biden left in Iraq, when they pulled U.S. troops out prematurely which allowed the Islamic Terror Army and Caliphate to rise, and then Obama and Biden sat there and watched as the Islamic Terror Army rampaged across the region. Obama and Biden did not appear too concerned with what was going on, just like Biden is not concerned about what is going on in Afghanistan now.

Both of them set back U.S. economic progress and national security. Why they did it, I can’t say. Delusional thinking seems like the best explanation, although that doesn’t really address the subject of intent, since a person might be an evil delusional person, or they might be a clueless delusional person, either of which could result in harm from delusional decisions.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 12, 2021 12:19 am

” Why does everything Obama and Biden do, advance the cause of radical Islamic extremists?”

Because in the realm of subversion, the Muslim Brotherhood stepped seamlessly into the KGB’s vacated shoes. See Stephen Coughlin’s briefs (linked from the header on vladtepesblog dot com) and for names named, the Bender Affidavit, which details how Qatari money and blackmail shape American politics:

Tho it appears Qatar is now being muscled aside by the CCP.

Reply to  SxyxS
September 11, 2021 10:54 am

Biden is Pinocchio to Obama’s Geppetto

Reply to  Jjk500
September 11, 2021 1:00 pm

Biden is not Pinochio.
If Biden was Pinochio he would be dead as his nose would have surrounded the planet and crashed the back of his head.

Mark Whitney
Reply to  SxyxS
September 12, 2021 6:19 am

Stranger that the Bush faction sides with B&O and opposes anti-establishment notions championed by Trump. Seems the same plan writers craft the script for both branches of the Party.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Mark Whitney
September 12, 2021 7:07 am

Not really so strange, the Bush’s have been in deep with the three-letter agencies for decades.

September 11, 2021 10:43 am

The methane”mostly nonsense” thing again.

The bad boys, of course, are the oil and gas companies with their leaky pipelines….who actually sell the stuff and all have anti- leakage programs to maximize their profits….never rice paddies and new growth pine forests…..

John Garrett
September 11, 2021 11:08 am

The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

Mencken was right. It is a “commonwealth of morons.”

Reply to  John Garrett
September 12, 2021 2:47 pm
Michael in Dublin
September 11, 2021 11:16 am

The bigger a government project, the greater the fraud, waste and mismanagement. However, when it comes to the folly of climate engineering this puts the biggest government projects to shame.

CD in Wisconsin
September 11, 2021 11:16 am

“It’s unlikely that the bill will reach Biden’s desk as written. Manchin, who chairs the Senate Energy and Natural Resources committee, will have significant input. But Democrats think that the recent spate of extreme weather makes a strong case for action sooner than later. ”

I’ve been very anxious about Biden’s somewhat radical leftist Eco-belief systems since Day One. If this bill or some version of it finds its way into law, it will only demonstrate how counter productive govt can be when it bases legislation and policy on bad and disputable science.

History has long shown how countries and civilizations lay the groundwork for their own decline and fall over time. If this is what is starting to happen here in the U.S., Europe and elsewhere, it only serves to show how history does indeed repeat itself.

Or, to put it another way, those who ignore the lessons of history are doomed to repeat its mistakes. Biden keeps getting worse as time goes on.

Steve Oregon
September 11, 2021 11:20 am

Minor adjustment in headline:
Biden Democrats Pursue California’s High Cost Climate Change Domestic Energy Agenda for Entire Country

Shoki Kaneda
September 11, 2021 11:28 am

I doubt Biden is pursuing any agenda. He reads what’s on the teleprompter and does what he’s told (mostly). He cannot put a coherent thought together. His handlers, however…

Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
September 11, 2021 1:04 pm

Bidens only own agenda is to not poop his pants for the first 15 minutes after they changed his diapers
and to walk towards and away from the microphone without dropping to the floor.

Steve Richards
Reply to  SxyxS
September 12, 2021 7:52 am

Can I have my watch back yet?

September 11, 2021 11:44 am

The problem with this nonsense is that the various policies that are being sold as ‘because climate’ actually have no effect on it. Cannot have any effect on it, if the alarmists are correct.

It is just like the argument, stop using gas because extreme weather in the country. But without giving any reason to think that stopping using gas will have any effect on weather in the country, which of course it will not and cannot.

Of course its even more insane when the effective policy becomes stop pumping in this country, instead buy it from other countries who raise their output.

In that case you cannot even argue that you are delivering a net reduction in the amount of fuel being used or the level of emissions.

It is complete insanity. The most basic sense of rationality would stop people making these kinds of arguments. What on earth is going on? Is there some environmental or medical development which is depriving political leaders of the ability to think?

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  michel
September 11, 2021 9:00 pm

Progressive thought. That is its name

The scientific name is “neurologically delayed”, a phrase I found gets by the censors on many sites.

Iain Russell
September 11, 2021 11:52 am

Dumb and dumber.

Gordon A. Dressler
September 11, 2021 12:31 pm

For Joe Biden, and likewise for Democrats such Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders and AOC, money is something that magically appears in the public coffers, and thus can be spent as if it was an UNLIMITED resource.

A $trillion here, $3 trillions there . . . what’s the diff?*

*With a pseudo tip-of-the-hat to Everett Dirksen (d. 1969), who (most likely incorrectly) is linked to the phrase ‘A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you’re talking real money’.

Gunga Din
September 11, 2021 12:43 pm

Just remind Joe that the base ingredient in Ice Cream is milk. From cows.
Cows emit methane.
“What would he do for a Klondike Bar”?

Pamela Matlack-Klein
September 11, 2021 1:00 pm

it seems like there is a whole lot of stupidity going on here. Useful idiots believe they will be rewarded after the revolution but they are ignorant of history and don’t realize that their reward won’t be what they are expecting. The Bigs who must be masterminding this Great Reset seem not to realize that if they really do achieve their evil ends, there won’t be much wonderful left to enjoy. Modern civilization depends on the infrastructure that has developed since the middle of the 19th C. If this infrastructure collapses so will the wonderful benefits we all enjoy. You have to be very stupid to not realize this.

John F Hultquist
September 11, 2021 1:15 pm

” If the producers don’t succeed, they would be assessed a fee that would help reduce greenhouse gas emissions . . . “

… a fee that will find its way to enrich Democratic politicians, their friends, and family.

There, fixed it for them.

September 11, 2021 1:45 pm

President Joe Biden’s climate ambitions will face a critical test on Monday as a major portion of the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill comes up for a vote. If it passes, the sprawling legislation will push the American economy to rein in its carbon emissions by spurring advancements in clean energy, electric vehicles, grid modernization, and more.

We have to recognize this nonsense for what it is. There is no “President Joe Biden”, there is The Party. Joe has made enough public addresses where he has informed those who cared to listen that he is not even in control of the words he speaks or the questions he is allowed to entertain. Its questionable if he can even control his own bowels.

The Party has unilaterally agreed to enslave most of the occupants in the former United States and to take control of the means of production. We all know how this theater of the “critical test” is going to turn out. The process is very simple:

  • The Party internal factions conduct power moves to divvy what up and how
  • This turns into thousands of pages of “legislation” which is basically Letters to Santa.
  • There is this public theater of Washington Generals v Globetrotters (this is where your mail box gets slammed with hysterical demands for money so that Our Team Can Win)
  • Spoils are given all around so that all the right people enjoy the grift
  • The Regulators within The Party are going to do whatever they want to do anyway
  • When it all goes to TU, as usual, The Party searches out the nearest Scapegoat because The Party is never wrong. The next batch of articles explains why the Scapegoat is to blame and why we should hate the Scapegoat.
  • The cycle begins anew until the parasites have killed he host.

No one can stop The Party because so many people want to be in The Party for their share of the loot. The key part of this is that no matter what is hashed out it is irrelevant, it will be the Regulatory Branch of the The Party that will continue the long uninterrupted march of stomping out human flourishing in a way that members of The Party can continue to profit.

All of this garbage we read is just BS and eyewash. Its a bunch of lazy, ignorant Millennials who don’t want to earn callouses on their hands doing real work but view themselves as Activist Saviors with their magical thinking and speculation because they Know What Is Best For Us.

Leo Smith
September 11, 2021 2:17 pm

Who owns the demo-rat party?
I think we should be told…

willem post
September 11, 2021 2:43 pm

The excerpted article has cost analyses of wind, solar and battery systems.

Only part of the analysis of a battery system is excerpted

US electricity would be one hell of a lot MORE expensive, than at present, if the liberal-arts, Socialist/Communist, nutcases “handling” senile, in-the-basement Biden have their way.

Excerpt from


Economics of Battery Project
If a bank makes a $3.0 million loan at 9%/y for 15 years, it would require annual mortgage payments of $365,136, to recover the loan, plus interest.
If GMP makes a $3.0 million investment in a battery system at 9%/y for 15 years, it would require annual payments of $365,136, to recover the investment, plus a 9%/y return on invested capital.
Cost of financing would be 5,477,040, total payments – 3,000,000, turnkey cost = $2,477,040, paid over 15 years.
It is assumed GMP finances the battery from its own resources
It is assumed the value of the battery system is about zero at end of Year 15.
Revenue is $179,880/y, RNS and FCM reduction + $7,653/y, arbitrage gain = $187,533/y
Revenue shortfall is 365,136, required by GMP – 187,533, revenues = $177,604/y
Subsidies need to be 177,604, revenue shortfall + 102,468, bulge control loss + 18,899, battery loss = $298,971/y, which would be charged to ratepayers and taxpayers and added to government debt. See Notes and table 4
Battery average draw from grid is 859,068 kWh/y / 365 d/y = 2,354 kWh/d
Battery rated capacity is 4000 kWh/d as AC
Battery average CF = 2354/4000 = 59%, which is within the 65% working range
Cost of paying GMP = (365,136, required by GMP) / (859,068, annual throughput) = 42.50 c/kWh. 
Cost of subsidies is 298,971/859,068, annual throughput = 34.80 c/kWh
Total cost of battery operations 70.31 c/kWh. See Note

NOTE: This report shows values of battery owning and operating costs of 46 to 65 c/kWh, which are similar to the 70.31 c/kWh of this analysis. See page 19 of URL

Ignored Costs of Solar and Battery Systems

1) O&M, which includes on-site use of electricity, labor and materials
2) Miscellaneous costs, such as insurance, etc.
3) Decommissioning and disposal of battery plant
4) Build new battery plant to serve for 10 years, i.e., 25y, life of solar plant – 15y, life of battery plant 

NOTE: A minor revenue could be obtained by using the battery for frequency regulation, i.e., rapidly absorbing and discharging very small quantities of electricity to maintain the grid frequency and voltage within the prescribed ranges.

– The GMP battery project is similar to a person buying a big house, without having enough income to make the monthly mortgage payments. Luckily, that person has parents, who voluntarily make up the shortage each month!! 
– The GMP battery project does not have enough revenues. Luckily for GMP, ratepayers and taxpayers are coerced to make up the shortage each month!!
– GMP wants to spread many heavily subsidized solar/battery combos all over Vermont, as part of its expensive “micro-grid, climate fighting” strategy, which will be good for GMP financial results, but not good for ratepayers and taxpayers and the Vermont economy.

Comments on table 4

1) Gain from FCM and RNS Reduction 

Significant revenue can be obtained by having the batteries reduce GMP peak demands, and thereby reduce RNS and FCM charges. These charges, imposed by ISO-NE, are a major expense of any utility. 

The “Game of Picking Peaks” amounts to cost shifting from clever, early-adopter utilities, onto other utilities.
The ISO-NE costs of running the grid do not decrease. They continue to be spread among utilities.
The Game will end after more utilities learn to play the game. 

The RNS value is $116.11/kW-year, or $9.68/kW-month, for 2020/2021
The FCM value is $5.30/kW-month, for 2020/2021

RNS reduction would be 1,000 kW x $9.69/kW-month = $9,690 for a month, or $116,280 for 12 months
FCM reduction would be 1,000 kW x $5.30/kW-month = $5,300 for a month, or $63,600 for 12 months. 
Total reduction = $179,880/y

2) Gain from Arbitrage

A very minor revenue can be obtained by “buying low, at night-time, and selling high, during peak hours”.

The battery could be partially charged from the grid from 10 pm to 6 am, at about 4 c/kWh, and be charged some more by absorbing a part of the bulge from 8 am to 4 pm, after which it would be discharged to the distribution grid from 4 pm to 10 pm, when, on average, grid prices are 7 c/kWh. 
The arbitrage gain would be $7,653/y. 

3) Loss due to Midday Solar Bulge

The battery could absorb 0.45 MW of solar output from 8 am to 4 pm = 0.45 x 8 h = 3.6 MWh as DC; which after a 7% loss, would add 3.35 MWh DC to the battery charge, which after a 10% loss, would deliver 3.01 MWh AC to the distribution grid, from 4 pm to 10 pm, when, on average, grid prices are 7 c/kWh. 
The bulge control cost would be $102,468/y. See Note

Expensive solar electricity at 17.27 c/kWh, of which 20% is lost, due to charging/discharging, with the left-over sold at 7 c/kWh!!
Would that loss be charged to owners of solar systems, who are the grid disturbers? 
Oh no, because that would “rain on the solar parade”

The bulge electricity costs 17.27 c/kWh. The quantity should be determined by measurement. 
This calculation uses 4 c/kWh for all charging, i.e., the arbitrage gain is overstated!!

4) Battery loss is $18,899/y, as shown under Here is a More-Detailed Analysis

Willem post
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 11, 2021 4:40 pm

That cost picture you mention is true with ideal solar conditions.

With marginal conditions, such as Germany, New England, US northwest Seattle area, the ALL-IN COST OF SOLAR, see table 1 in my article, is off-the-charts, compared to fossil, nuclear, and hydro

September 11, 2021 2:58 pm

OBiden’s USA is in the act of committing energy suicide.

Reply to  Barass
September 12, 2021 6:29 am

Biden’s proposals scarcely reach the levels of renewables actually currently operating, without disaster, in several other nations.

Reply to  griff
September 12, 2021 7:41 am

As always, griff conveniently ignores the load shedding grids with substantial amounts of renewable energy are having to do. He also ignores the fact that without nuclear and coal plants, those grids would have collapsed completely multiple times in the last year.

September 11, 2021 3:43 pm

When you and your policies are totally insane, there is no sound basis for logical criticism, as you have destroyed the framework for it. .

William Haas
September 11, 2021 4:06 pm

The Democrats are trying to bankrupt the federal government. The reality is that the climate change we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. The climate sensitivity of CO2 is really zero so all efforts to decrease CO2 emissions will have no effect on climate. There is no climate crisis but the Democrats do not care. In sympathy the President should remain at the white house in climate lockdown as if doing so would really solve all of the Earth’s alleged climate problems.

Willem post
Reply to  William Haas
September 11, 2021 4:46 pm

It would interesting to determine the increase of WORLD humidity during the past fifty years, and determine the increase in WORLD temperature due to just THAT increase.

Any increase by atmospheric CO2, or OTHER FACTORS would be in addition.

Some one please comment

Reply to  William Haas
September 12, 2021 6:28 am

That’s be the sun with lower levels of activity for the past 38 years, while temps still rise and arctic sea ice declines and glaciers retreat faster?

Reply to  griff
September 12, 2021 7:44 am

The drop in solar activity didn’t start until 12 or 13 years ago.
The sea ice declines stopped 9 years ago.
Glaciers retreating faster? Where?

Bryan A
Reply to  MarkW
September 12, 2021 8:18 pm

Glacier retreat is expedited in all models and associated IPCC reports

September 11, 2021 5:10 pm

But the US will lead the Western world again as the light on the hill-
660,000 jobs at risk as UK’s green investment lags (

Reply to  observa
September 11, 2021 5:16 pm

PS: Even more green jobs if you join the union and get with the program-
Toyota says it will fight U.S. House electric vehicle tax plan (

September 11, 2021 5:25 pm

“But Democrats think that the recent spate of extreme weather makes a strong case for action sooner than later.” It’s become painfully obvious that the old saying about repeating lies often enough makes them true is real. Of course the DATA shows no significant increase in any extreme weather, but that is ignored. Please spread the facts, or links to the facts to as many friends and enemies as possible. I try, though many do not want to even listen. Sigh…..

Peter W
Reply to  eck
September 11, 2021 5:51 pm

As someone who has lived on this earth for something over 80 years, I have not yet seen anything that I would classify as extreme weather in the past several years.

Reply to  eck
September 12, 2021 6:27 am

Tell that to the people flooded in China and Germany, the people experiencing heatwaves in NW USA, Lapland, Siberia, people burned out of their houses, populations across the Mediterranean and very, very many other places in the world this year…

Reply to  griff
September 12, 2021 7:45 am

I see griff is still pushing the line that anything bad was caused by CO2. No matter how many times worse events have occurred in the past.

Steve Richards
Reply to  griff
September 12, 2021 8:12 am

You know that China and Germany flood frequently. Any country with large rivers in their centre suffer from this. They always have and always will.
All areas have heatwaves. Going back many decades we have extremly good data.
As luck would have it, warm weather is better than cold on so many counts.
It is truly a goldie locks planet!

Reply to  griff
September 13, 2021 2:10 pm

Hey griff, you still haven’t told me the right number of floods.

September 11, 2021 6:37 pm

“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on,or by imbeciles who really mean it”
-Mark Twain.

September 12, 2021 3:34 am

Be far less pollution if we shut off access to energy of all types to the people who claim to hate it so much.

very old white guy
September 12, 2021 6:57 am

I have been amused by the constant Biden did this Biden did that. When the collapse finally occurs and Biden is the scapegoat, I hope people are smart enough to figure out that Biden did nothing, as he is incapable of doing anything. The democrats are evil people and have set the stage for disaster with the senile Biden supposedly at the controls.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  very old white guy
September 12, 2021 7:10 am

People know that Biden, although one of the most corrupt DC politicians ever, is just a puppet without much brain capacity left.

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