Marc Morano Demolishes Biden Campaigner’s Extreme Weather Claims On TV



By Paul Homewood

It’s not often that climate sceptics get a chance to go head to head with alarmists on TV.

Here Marc Morano gets a chance to call out a Biden campaigner:

And credit to Fox News’ Dan Bongino, who inconveniently points out that the actual data does not support Walling’s claims that storms are getting worse.

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September 9, 2021 2:20 am

Some folks are easy to con and some folks are just hysterical.
Propaganda is thriving like never before.

Reply to  Spectr
September 9, 2021 5:45 am

You are correct Spectr.

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Jim Whelan
Reply to  Spectr
September 9, 2021 7:04 am

Paranoia reigns supreme!

Reply to  Jim Whelan
September 9, 2021 1:10 pm

“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you.”
― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

j t
September 9, 2021 5:11 pm

Just because you’re paranoid about something doesn’t mean you know anything about it, and the fact that you believe something doesn’t make it true.

Reply to  j t
September 10, 2021 12:51 am

“only the paranoid survive” (Groves)

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Spectr
September 9, 2021 10:16 am

Even the Democrat in this video admits that all he can point to is “the optics”.
So they want to bankrupt us with a fake solution to a nonproblem which is nothing but a media hyped and aggressive ploy to paint a scary picture.

Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
September 9, 2021 11:13 am

but the optics.

YallaYPoora Kid
September 9, 2021 2:50 am

But it’s the optics

wow there’s the data, who needs facts?

Doubting Rich
Reply to  YallaYPoora Kid
September 9, 2021 3:52 am

In think he said the quiet part out loud there! It is all about the optics, what they can do with people’s views.

Reply to  Doubting Rich
September 9, 2021 7:14 am

Liars lie. Proven again. Such a shame that the sheep listen to them.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Doubting Rich
September 9, 2021 10:36 am

More people in harm’s way, lots more infrastructure than 100 years ago, yet deaths have gone down dramatically.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  YallaYPoora Kid
September 9, 2021 6:01 am

I love how Kevin goes straight for the anecdotal, “when I was growing up in Florida”, as if that’s a proxy for the entire earth. And then, more lists, more anecdotal “evidence”. Notice Marc cites his sources, and Kevin, no reply.

Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
September 9, 2021 6:31 am

Florida’s worst hurricanes took place in the 1920s and 1930s, long before the Biden flunky’s parents were born. Massive death tolls then. Even much more massive death tolls in 1900 in Galveston. Long before any SUVs appeared, long before massive electrification using coal and natural gas appeared.

Even worse hurricanes took place centuries prior, even if there weren’t any scientists tracking them and collecting data. Columbus’s first permanent settlement on Hispaniola was destroyed by a hurricane, and the guy who replaced Columbus as the Spanish governor of their new world colony was killed by a hurricane. Florida’s keys and east coast are littered with Spanish treasure ships that went down in horrible hurricanes.

But none of those events had the “optics” of 24 hour a day cable and internet news coverage, powered by mass numbers of scientific illiterate media reporters shouting “climate change!”.

Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
September 9, 2021 7:18 am

I grew up in Florida too and that’s why I realize Ida was nothing out of the ordinary.

A hurricane causing severe flooding and destruction of property? That’s what hurricanes do. I’ve lived through a dozen of them. The most remarkable hurricanes of my lifetime were Andrew and Katrina, not for their remarkableness as storms, but for the unique situations that caused so much death and disruption.

old engineer
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
September 9, 2021 10:58 am

When I was growing up in Florida, in the 1940’s (not the 1990’s) I had been through 5 hurricanes before I was 10 years old. So I was not surprised to hear the that the data shows the1940’s was the decade of the most storms. So Kevin, I’ll see your anecdotal evidence with some of my own that actually agrees with the data.

Ron Long
September 9, 2021 3:07 am

Feelings versus data. Lies versus truth. Political Science against Science. When you claim that the majority of people agree with CAGW, then you see a poll that shows “climate change” is number 20 in a listing of 20 concerns, you should consider that a reality check.

Reply to  Ron Long
September 9, 2021 6:16 am

If you get a chance, try to catch a glimpse of the crowds at the college football games. There’s hope in those millions of young people and their chants of “f**k Joe Biden.”

Reality check:

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
September 9, 2021 7:17 am

It’s only going to get worse for him (and them).

Reply to  Scissor
September 9, 2021 11:46 am

But they aren’t wearing masks, or socially distancing.

Jim Whelan
Reply to  Ron Long
September 9, 2021 7:17 am

When you claim that the majority of people agree with CAGW,

Truth is never decided by polls or the number of people who believe something in any case.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Jim Whelan
September 10, 2021 4:05 am

Science is the exact opposite of trying to decide things based on gut reactions, “optics”, and polling.
If people were any good at deducing the correct explanations for physical phenomena, we would have never needed a scientific method.

Guys like the jackass warmista in this video think science is a set of beliefs.
They do not need evidence…they picked what was true at the outset, and nothing will change their minds.
No proof was required, and no evidence will suffice to alter what they believe.

Reply to  Ron Long
September 9, 2021 7:42 am

Ordinary people are far more savvy than the Liberal Elite imagine.

Reply to  Ron Long
September 10, 2021 6:57 am

It’s not a concern for most people, but the majority certainly appear to accept the idea without question. I read several magazines in different subject areas and they ALL echo the mantra about “cutting carbon emissions”, “protecting the environment”, and “reducing fossil fuel use”

B Clarke
September 9, 2021 3:11 am

The democrates in the clips eg Biden are just lying, the interviewer gave both sides a fair crack of the whip the guy on the right failed, the interviewer agreed with the guy on the left , the guy on the right smiled and backed down at the end of the interview.

NEXT will the data become increasingly difficult to obtain when it disagrees with the narrative?

Why do Biden and the like think they can get away with blatant lying, its clear many don’t agree with the narrative, its also clear many know were to seak the truth/ contradiction to the narrative, a few more reporter like the guy in the clip is what we need.

B Clarke
Reply to  B Clarke
September 9, 2021 1:02 pm


Tom Abbott
Reply to  B Clarke
September 9, 2021 4:46 pm

“Why do Biden and the like think they can get away with blatant lying”

The Democrats have been getting away with it for years. They have no reason to assume this will change. I think they are wrong, though. Biden has shown his true self and people don’t like what they are seeing. He has shown himself to be a blatant liar, so that’s the way a lot of people are going to look at him in the future. No matter what he says, on any topic, he won’t be trusted.

B Clarke
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 10, 2021 1:19 am

Yep , his announcement last night ( UK time) should see him become even more unpopular,

Tom Abbott
Reply to  B Clarke
September 10, 2021 6:23 am


Biden is trying to force vaccinations on everyone using the power of the State.

One thing he is trying to do is to try to persuade football stadiums to require proof of vaccination before being allowed into the stadium.

Last week during several college football games, the first of the season, the audiences were chanting vulgar, derogatory chants directed at Joe Biden.

I imagine after Biden’s speech yesterday there is going to be a lot more deragotory chanting by football audiences.

Joe Biden is not being given the benefit of the doubt anymore. The Honeymoon is over.

B Clarke
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 10, 2021 6:45 am

Scotland just declared similar for large events, Wales will follow but essential shopping ect will not be mandatory, don’t know about England yet, I’m getting the feeling some sort of lockdowns will be happening come October, looks like uk and America will be going down similar routes by design.

I agree as Biden plays more cards his agenda is becoming obvious.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  B Clarke
September 11, 2021 4:23 am

It appears that Biden is now threatening military veterans who have not yet recieved the vaccination.

Biden says any military veteran that has not been vaccinated cannot receive health care at VA hospitals! Biden will turn them away!

There will be a backlash over that one.

Meanwhile, Biden has exempted the Postal workers union from having to get the vaccine. The Postal Union Bosses give Democrats a lot of money.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 12, 2021 9:04 am

I keep waiting for this backlash to happen…

September 9, 2021 3:21 am

Not only are the Democrats twisting the truth with their propaganda, but the “Greenies” are now into grave robbing …

Reply to  John Shewchuk
September 9, 2021 4:56 am

Driving through the WW1 battlefields peage in France, one notices they (Sanef) have already added some kind of sculptures along the N11 autoroute, so I would not be surprised to see those battlefields covered over in solar panels.
See the post above ¨I Am the Very Model of a Modern Climate Modeller¨ set to Gilbert and Sullivan…. To make Bertrand Russel spin in the grave!

Doubting Rich
September 9, 2021 3:51 am

A shame they did not point out that California fires affected five times as much land area in the 1920s as today. It has risen since the 1980s, probably because of poor forest management (regulated burns on under 1% of the forest land, and for “carbon sequestration” demands to reduce intentional burn and just allow the fuel to build up!

Reply to  Doubting Rich
September 9, 2021 5:03 am

In 1871, millions of acres burned over only a couple of days as part of the Great Midwest Wildfires. The Great Chicago fire happened at the same time.

bill Johnston
Reply to  Scissor
September 9, 2021 5:59 am

The Great Chicago fire was a marshmallow roast compared to the Peshtigo fire in northeastern Wisconsin. Which occurred the same time. October 8, 1871. Over 1.2 million acres and 1500-2500 persons died.

Ron Long
Reply to  bill Johnston
September 9, 2021 7:36 am

That does it, now I’m on fire.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Scissor
September 10, 2021 4:30 am

I am not sure if those fires were widespread beneficial fires, or destructive crown fires.
One thing that occurs to me is the timing, a few decades after the native Americans were driven from those areas…people who were known be aware of the need for frequent low level fires, and who therefore set them on a regular basis.
20, 30, 40 years…that is just the amount of time it takes.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Doubting Rich
September 10, 2021 4:17 am

“…probably because of poor forest management…”

There is no probably about it…that is definitely a large factor in the types of fires we are seeing in CA in recent years.
The tree huggers of decades past prevented any sort of management at all in some places, and in CA they were very successful at making sure no sort of forestry management was allowed.
What happens when fuel is allowed to build up is common knowledge amongst anyone who has ever studied forest ecology.
Even the ancients knew well that this is what occurs when there are no fires for a long period of time.
Fire is a natural and necessary and inevitable process in forests of the type that exists in the western and southern US.
The trees are so adapted to fire that the seeds cannot germinate without it, and even if they did, they will not grow without fire cleared space.
And the rest of the biome is equally dependent on fire.
There will ether be frequent small and beneficial fires, or there will be very large and destructive fires.
Not maybe, for sure.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
September 10, 2021 4:23 am

The rationale of the people that did not want any harvesting of trees was some idiotic and misguided notion that trees are forever and nature is efficient.
Of course neither is true.
And now look what has happened to all those trees…completely wasted. Gigantic losses of wildlife, and massive loss of property.
Next come erosion and mudslides.
And for what?
All because loudmouthed simpletons were allowed to dictate policy.

September 9, 2021 3:57 am

It’s all about the optics? WTH!! Like “doctors” and covid science, climate science has been abandoned by the “scientists” themselves for power, money, and control.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
September 9, 2021 4:14 am

These people are shameless in their lies! Although, it is possible that many of them are just saying what they are told to say and may well believe they are spouting truth.It is difficult to peel the scales off the eyes of those who have no opinions of their own but are only repeating what they are paid to say. And we must always remember half the people in the world are dumber than the idiots being paid to tell lies….

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
September 10, 2021 5:05 am

“…many of them are just saying what they are told to say…”
Hard to be sure of any particular individual without specific knowledge of his/her background, but the most likely thing is that the guy in the video does not even know what science is.

The subtext of his spiel is appalling: Because of “the optics”, the culprit is “climate change”.
Not even global warming caused by CO2, which although wrong at least has the proper incorrect rationale behind it.
So instead of taking steps to plan for and mitigate the effects of floods and other severe weather events, which are of course inevitable, all of the focus is on “solving” the problem by climate change activism, pouring money into repetitive and useless research which is not research at all, because the findings are preordained, making sure all inexpensive sources of energy are either banned or made punishingly expensive, wasting vast amounts of wealth on useless and counterproductive alternative energy scams while making sure nuclear and hydro are not even considered…
And meanwhile, more vast sums will be spent rebuilding everything destroyed by the floodwaters, winds, and storm surge, in all of the same places which are guaranteed to be destroyed again on a regular basis.
What will not be done is making rational decisions about rebuilding along shorelines and floodplains, building storm water infrastructure that is able to accommodate, at a minimum, any floods which are known to have occurred, or anything else which will actually lessen future impacts from such events.

By being preoccupied with a false narrative about the reason for such events, and deluded into a belief that we can actually control the weather of a planet and end bad weather, these jackasses ensure that the proper steps will not be taken.

Listening to one politician after another talk gravely about an imaginary climate crisis, and pronouncing that the “solution” to hurricanes and floods to get serious about “tackling climate change”, I am 100% certain that many trillions of more dollars, and many more years, and many more lives, and much more prosperity, will be squandered.
Adult human beings who are in charge and running the world, are living in the thrall of a pure delusion. They are not merely ignorant…they have a head full of “facts” that have no basis in reality, and of which they are certain beyond all doubt.

It feels like a bad dream.
I no longer have any hope that skeptics can ever erase this delusion from the minds of these morons.

Note: I do not really like to use scare quotes more than very rarely, but at the moment I cannot think of any other way to capture and portray the mentality of the deluded except by using the language they use, while making it clear I myself use these words only because they do, and not because it is proper or appropriate verbiage.

September 9, 2021 4:36 am

You’ll never see that on the BBC, you’ll never read about it in the Times, Telegraph, Guardian, Independent etc. In fact, not even our MPs want to know about the reality

The [Parliamentary] report follows longstanding frustration by environment groups, academics and scientists about many BBC programmes appearing to apply “false balance” when they cover climate change. This, they have argued, has often resulted in inaccurate or misleading scientific coverage.

In February, the former chancellor Lord Lawson, a longstanding climate change sceptic, was given equal time on a Today programme debate about climate change and flooding with Professor Sir Brian Hoskins, a climatologist. Lawson is also the chairman of the Global Warming Policy Foundation, a thinktank that casts doubt on climate change science and questions the economic costs of responding to it. The debate resulted in alleged scientific inaccuracies and a demonstration outside Broadcasting House by direct action group Climate Rush against the BBCs coverage.

The report said: “Some editors appear to be particularly poor at determining the level of scientific expertise of contributors in debates, putting up lobbyists against top scientists

Only the fledgling GB News in the UK would host a ‘denier’ now; they hosted Matt Ridley and how was that received by the mainstream?

GB News criticised for platforming ‘dangerous climate change deniers’

All bellyfeel and no facts

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  fretslider
September 9, 2021 5:21 am

‘dangerous climate change deniers

So we’re dangerous now? I can’t wait to tell the wife.

Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
September 9, 2021 5:41 am

This is the second step in dehumanizing those who disagree with you. With the eventual goal of death camps for unbelievers.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  MarkW
September 9, 2021 7:59 am

Australia is building “quarantine camps” now…

Reply to  MarkW
September 10, 2021 7:03 am

MarkW, ever see the 10 stages of genoc!de? We’ve gotten a good start along that path already.

Bruce Cobb
September 9, 2021 4:38 am

LOL. Classic beat-down of the Alarmist “argument”. They have no facts, no real evidence, and certainly no science on their side, so instead, they go for fact-free emotionalism. They blather on about how the “weather is worse” now, based on little more than what they remember as a kid, back before the internet, before weather became a 24/7, uber-hyped industry.

Andrew Wilkins
September 9, 2021 4:42 am

Isn’t it a bitch when someone uses real data?

Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
September 9, 2021 5:51 am

Data that hasn’t been tortured and stretched on the rack.

Reply to  fretslider
September 9, 2021 6:19 pm

Or erased by government agencies.

September 9, 2021 4:45 am

Great to see that. Weaponizing weather, what a scam!
Much better though, to put climate to music :

I Am the Very Model of a Modern Climate Modeller

See the text there – and sing along! This should be a hit!

Reply to  bonbon
September 9, 2021 6:25 am

Very nicely done video. Here’s my 1.5 minute sing-along honoring the real climate control knob …

Reply to  John Shewchuk
September 9, 2021 8:17 am

Some other hilarious videos there too – LOL!

Reply to  John Shewchuk
September 9, 2021 10:16 am

Nice, was that video taken from your front yard?

Reply to  yirgach
September 9, 2021 10:27 am

Thanks, but unfortunately no. I’m in central Florida, but took a weekend to visit Vero Beach. I got this video the next day …

Pamela Matlack-Klein
September 9, 2021 4:58 am

Where does this fantasy come from that humans have any effect on weather? This has been a long-standing joke, everyone talks about the weather but no one can do anything about it. This was true the first time Ogg uttered it over fermented sloe berry juice to his buddy Oggogg as they sat morosely in the foyer of their communal cave gazing out at the steady downpour that had ruined their hunt as it is today. We can complain, whine, and invent screw scenarios about CO2 and fossil fuels, but we still can’t make it rain when we want or stop raining when we want. Weather is one of those things along with the sun rising in the east and setting in the west that is part and parcel of our physical world, pre-determined by physics. And on reflection, it is a good thing humans can’t control the weather or climate because that would probably result in all of us being wiped out….

Rick C
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
September 9, 2021 6:38 am

My father used to say: “If politicians could come up with an excuse, they’d tax the air we breath.” Ironically perhaps, he died in 1979 – the year the Charney Report was published.

September 9, 2021 5:16 am

More extreme-cold events worldwide.
Dyslexic warmists says: “Warming causes cooling!” Right-o!

September 8, 2021 Cap Allon
As is the case with Greenland, Japan’s Mount Fuji is often used as a poster child for catastrophic AGW. However, and is the case with Greenland, real-world observations continue to paint an entirely different picture…

September 9, 2021 5:47 am

The ex hurricane Larry is on the way to Greenland with a lot of snow.

Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 9, 2021 10:38 am

tt’s way:

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September 9, 2021 9:13 am

Melting Arctic – a meme:
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Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 9, 2021 5:35 pm

There’s 3 years between 2007 & 2020 with higher sea ice coverage than 2021 (as at first week of Sept), there’s a lot of room for improvement. The image above shows the 11 years below 2021.

I think the the years between 1979 & 2007 all had greater sea ice coverage than 2021 at their summer minimums.
You can still see a downward trend over several decades but less extreme than 2012 & limited records prior to 1979. It does show fast rebounds and less to panic about.

Volcanic activity, geothermal activity, solar/planet/moon/earth cycles can all contribute.There is no ‘normal’, only averages for selected periods for time.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  tygrus
September 11, 2021 12:21 pm

`The ice in the Arctic is cyclical, and the period of the cycle is long, on the order of the length of a human life.
It may be 60 years, or it may be 80, but most likely it varies somewhat.
And there are longer and slower changes onto which this cycle is superimposed.
As you correctly note, large changes can and do occur in an amazingly short amount of time.
There is a very long history of recorded changes in Arctic ice, longer than the standard graphs show.
Even the satellite record is longer than what is depicted as the entirely of the satellite record.
The early and mid 1970s were chopped from the graphs about 20-25 years ago, because they wrecked the then emerging narrative.
In the space of a year to a few years, ice at either pole can go from near record high amounts to record low amounts, or back again the other way.
And this will happen again, and may well be already occurring in the Arctic at the present time.
This may be the Winter than Arctic ice goes above the long term average for the first time in almost 20 years.
According to DMI, right now the ice extent and volume is back long term average values.
We can see from historical records that vast amounts of ice can form in a Winter, and long term thick ice can form in just a handful of years. That is what happened in the middle of the 1970s, and it took decades of melting for most of that thick multiyear ice to melt away.
Now it is reforming, and if those of us who have surmised that the loss of ice is temporary and cyclical are correct, we may be on the verge of a decades long period of time during which no one is talking about loss of sea ice except as a fond memory.

But cold winters and crop losses and increasing ice will not slow down the drumbeat from the warmistas even a little. It will just become part of their sermons of doom and gloom.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
September 11, 2021 12:23 pm
Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
September 11, 2021 12:25 pm

Not sure why sometimes this site will post such links as a photo and other times as a link.
Here are the photos one by one:

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
September 11, 2021 12:25 pm

And volume:

Mumbles McGuirck
September 9, 2021 5:20 am

Not to be the t*rd in the punchbowl, but I watched “Tucker Carlson” last night and Brian Kilmeade had on Joe Bastardi to counter the nonsense Joe Biden was spouting about Hurricane Ida. Bastardi should have hit that one out of the park, but he got lost talking about hurricane history and forgot to tie it in to the present. It became a rambling mess. Bastardi is usually much better than that, good with soundbites, etc. Instead, he sounded like Bill Nye. (heresy!!)

Steve Oregon
September 9, 2021 6:18 am

Data? We need any data. We got optics.

September 9, 2021 8:47 am

“The Crimate Clisis…” –Joe Biden

When Ike Eisenhower came out with spoonerisms, the Press was all over it. Now, with Boe Jiden, mot so nuch.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
September 9, 2021 9:07 am

He’s a smart feller and a shining wit.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
September 9, 2021 2:36 pm

shining wit

I see what you did there!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 9, 2021 4:52 pm

After you called my attention to it, I got it, too. 🙂

Steve Z
September 9, 2021 9:25 am

The Democrat’s comment about the “optics” was classic. Let’s face it, journalists are attracted to any disaster, whether it’s due to bad weather, an earthquake, murders, crime, car or plane crashes, or scandal. How many headlines does anyone see saying “it was partly cloudy and 75 degrees in X city today, and nobody died”? That doesn’t sell newspapers or attract clicks on Internet articles.

The Democrat also said that he was profoundly affected as a child by a hurricane hitting Florida, but has he stopped to consider that so far this year, no tropical storm has come anywhere near the east coast of Florida?

The truth is, there will be some extreme weather event somewhere in the world practically every week, whether it’s flooding, tropical storms, snowstorms, tornadoes, severe thunderstorms, etc. During times when the weather is not extreme, people tend to “take it for granted” and go about their business, or take advantage of good weather for outdoor activities.

But if extreme weather events are not really becoming for frequent, we DON’T have to “act” (like Biden claims) to blame extreme weather events on emission of a harmless gas like CO2, which is also necessary for life on earth due to its role in photosynthesis, and cripple the world’s economy to try to lower its concentration in the air by about 0.01%.

Today’s technology, particularly weather satellites, have given us the means to predict extreme weather a few days in advance, so that people can “act” to prepare for them to reduce deaths and injuries.

September 9, 2021 9:40 am

I believe the problem is, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.” Facts, data, and science mean nothing to political hacks and the alarmists in general. I realize there is some entertainment value in it, but otherwise it’s a waste of time. Nothing short of the beginning of the next ice age will move them.

September 9, 2021 10:04 am

The most severe storm in his lifetime…. WOW a whole thirty or forty years….

And this is part of the problem, people cannot relate to anything longer than their tiny lifespans and their own “visuals”.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  steve
September 9, 2021 4:53 pm

I think they have quit teaching history in the schools.

Brent Qually
September 9, 2021 10:05 am

Blazing Saddles

Reply to  Brent Qually
September 9, 2021 10:57 am

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Mike Maguire
September 9, 2021 10:07 am
Jeff Alberts
September 9, 2021 10:34 am

Morano plays into their hands by using the term “climate-related deaths”. He needs to not do that.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 9, 2021 6:09 pm

People play into their hands then they use “climate change” too … or say “world climate”. They also play into the narrative by using “gender” when they mean sex. If you think about it, much of the debate involves the words … just as Orwell describes.

September 9, 2021 11:52 am

“Science matters, you should try it some time.”

September 9, 2021 1:43 pm

The latest news from NOAA is that this summer was the hottest summer in US history. …

Tom Abbott
Reply to  goldminor
September 9, 2021 4:57 pm

What else do we expect from these liars and data manipulators.

The UAH satellite data does not agree with the NOAA data.

The UAH satellite data accuracy has been verified by the Weather Balloon data.

What has verified the accuracy of the NOAA data? Answer: Nothing.

Anthony Banton
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 10, 2021 10:50 am

The UAH satellite data accuracy has been verified by the Weather Balloon data.

No it hasn’t.

Many problems related to tropospheric temperature “measurement” re drift and changes in satellite in particular.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Anthony Banton
September 11, 2021 4:33 am

Well, my old computer, which I have used since Windows 95 days finally decided to quit working. I haven’t opened it up yet, but it appears that the CPU fan has probably quit working, as it shuts down in about a minute after booting.

Unfortunately, for this discussion, my excerpt covering the 97 percent correlation between the Weather Balloon data and the UAH data is on that computer, not the one I’m using now, but I’ll recover it and then I’ll post it for you.

I have posted it in the past. I’ll bet you’ve seen it before. But I’ll post it again.

So any criticism of the UAH satellite data should apply to the Weather Balloon data, too? Is that your position?

Michael in Dublin
September 9, 2021 1:59 pm

This dude Kevin Walling has an impressive track record:
Kevin’s proudest policy accomplishment was helping to lead the successful effort to pass marriage equality (in Maryland)” He is an activist and so we must trust his judgment.

September 9, 2021 3:42 pm

The North Atlantic is only 400 years into a long warming phase that will last for the next 12k years. 1585 was the last time perihelion occurred before the boreal winter solstice. Since then the orbit started its 12.5k year march toward perihelion occurring at the boreal summer solstice.

On average the North Atlantic is warming with summers will get more sunlight but winters less.

There will be more water in the atmosphere in late summer and it will drop out faster over land as the colder boreal winter sets in.

There is very good sense in planning for these climate changes. This millennium, ice will begin to accumulate on the land masses surrounding the higher latitudes of the North Atlantic. Sea levels will begin to fall.

It would be folly on a grand scale to invest heavily in weather dependent electricity generating infrastructure with the aim of reducing atmospheric CO2, which has ZERO direct impact on Earth’s energy balance. All that investment would be better placed on improving flood controls; relocating dwellings if needed; improving building insulation for colder winter and warmer summers and strengthening all structures for higher wind loads.

Expect to see more tropical storms occurring a little later in the year. Expect them to progress to higher latitudes. The North Atlantic is actually a warm basin, currently just past its most recent minimum in total ToA sunlight.

If climate scientists were doing meaningful work, these are the changes they would be identifying – not dicking about with inept climate models based on nonscience.

September 9, 2021 6:12 pm

Regardless of which side you’re on , both made assertions and provided no data or evidence. Disappointed given title.

September 9, 2021 7:10 pm

Just a question: Does this individual (Walling) know anything at all about seasonal changes, how the Earth wobbles, and the difference between climate (long term) and weather (short term)??

Just askin;. If I could borrow the Tardis or the Time Machine and drag his sorry behind back to the Chicago blizzard of 1967 (look it up), I would do so in a heartbeat. (Ooops! Almost spelled that “heartbear”! And I love bears! Brain cramp, that’s all.)

Where does this denial of the real world come from? I can’t figure this out. We had a chilly-ish summer in my AO, with not close to enough rain, but elsewhere, things were different. That is simply weather. Now we’re getting chilly and rather early Autumn temps, and not enough rain to keep my poor postage stamp lawn from looking like the squirrels chewed on it.

That’s just W-E-A-T-H-E-R. It’s a shame he does not know the difference between weather and climate. He won’t live long enough to see any real changes in the climate, but I’m guessing that when they come, it will be perpetual snow, ice sheets and cold bitter winds.

So what will this Walling person do when his heat gets turned off because the “grid” powered by wind and solar sources quit on him, because it got cloudy and started snowing and that has gone on for several weeks? That will also cut into food supplies, among other things.

September 9, 2021 9:51 pm

Can you say State-Federal money grab?

To bed B
September 10, 2021 1:50 am

The Sun just went down. This has been the darkest it has been since the start of records, 7am this morning. The onset of darkness has been associated with a reduction in productivity so it is the canary in the mine of the economic turmoil to come. The government must stop people keeping time.

I hope this helps with the myopia.

Matthew Sykes
September 11, 2021 2:32 am

Yet he wont change his opinion, disproved wrong in public, he has no shame, just grins, probably because he knows he is lying and it doesnt matter that he is.

September 12, 2021 10:17 pm

We have lots of data…. i just forgot to bring it…

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