Another COP26 Postponement? (fossil fuels winning anyway)

From MasterResource

By Robert Bradley Jr. — September 8, 2021

“Vaccine inequity, unaffordable accommodation, travel challenges and new surges in the Covid19 pandemic will lock out huge numbers of developing country delegates from the UN climate talks set to take place in November.” (Climate Action Network, September 7, 2021)

Add “incremental emissions” to the above, and it is quandary time in Glasgow, UK.

Last March, the resurgence of the Pandemic led to talk about a second postponement. Now, the wolf is at the door. With a global fossil-fuel boom in evidence, and international cooperation to reduce CO2 in disarray, this is an opportunity for COP26 to go “net zero.”

The following statement from Climate Action Network International, “COP26 Must the Postponed,” was just released:

Climate Action Network (CAN), a global network of more than 1500 civil society organisations in over 130 countries working together to fight the climate emergency, has today called for the UN climate talks – COP26 – to be postponed. The conference is set to take place in early November.

With just two months to go, it is evident that a safe, inclusive and just global climate conference is impossible given the failure to support the access to vaccines to millions of people in poor countries, the rising costs of travel and accommodation, and the uncertainty in the course of the Covid19 pandemic.

An in-person COP in early November would de facto exclude many government delegates, civil society campaigners and journalists, particularly from Global South countries, many of which are on the UK’s Covid19 ‘red list’. 

This exclusion poses serious and long-lasting implications for issues that will be under deliberation at this COP and that are extremely important to developing countries, including on climate finance, loss and damage and carbon market rules, among others.

The full and meaningful representation of those on the frontlines of the climate emergency is critical to produce a credible political outcome from COP26. 

Our concern is that those countries most deeply affected by the climate crisis and those countries suffering from the lack of support by rich nations in providing vaccines will be left out of the talks and be conspicuous by their absence at COP26. There has always been an inherent power imbalance within the UN climate talks, between rich and poor nations, and this is now compounded by the health crisis. Looking at the current timeline for COP26, it is difficult to imagine there can be fair participation from the Global South under safe conditions and it should therefore be postponed,” said Tasneem Essop, Executive Director, Climate Action Network.

“This issue of participation at COP26 is a microcosm of the larger patterns of global injustice and exclusion that we see playing out. CAN has advocated for vaccine equity and a TRIPS waiver on Covid19 vaccines since the start of this year and called out the UK for failing to support a patent waiver at the G7 Summit back in June. Today, 57% of Europe is fully vaccinated while just about 3% of Africa is. Our fight for climate justice and our efforts to hold those in power accountable cannot be delinked from the root causes that continue to perpetuate such inequality and injustice. The climate talks are important but against the current context of vaccine apartheid they simply cannot proceed by locking out the voices of those who especially need to be heard at this time,” added Essop.

While the UK COP26 Presidency promised to fast-track vaccines to delegates in need of them, those who applied for this are yet to receive their first jabs as of today. We note that the UK COP Presidency has now announced that delegates will be vaccinated this week. 

Repeated requests to the UK Presidency for clarity around support for logistics and quarantine costs have also not been forthcoming or made public. 

The UK has been too slow in delivering its vaccines support to delegates in vulnerable countries and their quarantine requirements come with some eye-watering hotel costs. Some delegates are finding they cannot transit because some of the major travel hubs are closed and the alternative travel costs are beyond the reach of poorer governments and smaller civil society organisations. If COP26 goes ahead as currently planned, I fear it is only the rich countries and NGOs from those countries that would be able to attend.

This flies in the face of the principles of the UN process and opens the door for a rich-nations stitch-up of the talks.  A climate summit without the voices of those most affected by climate change is not fit for its purpose,” said Mohamed Adow, long-time observer of the talks and Director of the Nairobi-based think tank Power Shift Africa.

“Authentic climate solutions exist but what is missing is genuine solidarity. Like the pandemic, the climate and biodiversity emergency knows no boundaries or nationalities, but it is those least responsible who are the worst impacted. Equity, safety, action and accountability – all of the ingredients for solidarity – must be central to COP26 being the success it has to be. This can only be achieved through timely vaccine access and financial support for quarantine expenses – these elements are all lacking.

Rebuilding the essential multilateral trust required for a successful COP26 also means supporting the TRIPS waiver for a People’s Vaccine, delivering on commitments for climate finance for the most vulnerable countries, and kicking fossil fuels out of politics once and for all,” said Jennifer Morgan, Executive Director, Greenpeace International

CAN acknowledges the difficulties in holding a COP during a pandemic. This call to postpone COP26 does not in any way imply a postponement of urgent climate action or a boycott of the climate talks. As accredited observers to the UN climate negotiations, CAN has been a key player in every COP since 1995, advocating for the strongest response from governments to the climate emergency.
 
We will continue our work to push political leaders to deliver ambitious national climate targets, fulfil their responsibilities on climate finance, phase out fossil fuels and address the needs of the most vulnerable people experiencing loss and damage.

Escalating climate impacts all over the world and the most recent IPCC report are a reminder that consistent, urgent and transformative action on the ground to avert the worst of the climate crisis is needed everyday, day after day.

We continue to hold those in power accountable to this.   

Postponement 1: 2020

In April 2020, the BBC stated in Cop26: Why experts hope cancelling the climate event could help the planet:

And some officials have said there could be a positive to COP26 being cancelled…. because it’s a real opportunity for governments to spend that money on lots of sustainable and renewable projects that can be discussed there.

Said Stephanie Pfeifer from the Institutional Investors Group on Climate Change (IIGCC):

Moving the summit back improves the likelihood of a strong outcome and ensuring that the world is put on a path to tackle the climate crisis.

Turning bad news into good is part of the COP26 spin, as it has been for nearly 30 years with the United Nations effort to dislodge from modern mineral energies chosen by free consumers.

Meanwhile, fossil fuels and the planet move on.

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Bill Toland
September 9, 2021 6:03 am

I agree. COP26 should be postponed until everybody is certain to be absolutely safe. I suggest the conference should take place in 2050.

Duane
Reply to  Bill Toland
September 9, 2021 6:36 am

It used to be called the “uncertainty principle” that justified massive change due to climate alarmism. But the alarmists have now move far beyond uncertainly, and are claiming absolute rock solid certainty that we’re all going to die due to climate change tomorrow if we don’t eff up society today.

Spetzer86
Reply to  Duane
September 9, 2021 6:57 am

If we’re not careful, we’ll likely accomplish both goals.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Spetzer86
September 9, 2021 8:57 am

I doubt anyone will die of climate change: plenty from energy poverty though

John Law
Reply to  Spetzer86
September 10, 2021 1:20 am

I think that’s the plan ; too many peasants on the planet!

Leo Smith
Reply to  Duane
September 9, 2021 9:03 am

“Precautionary principle”. magnitude of action = lack of problem x improbability of it happening.

HAS
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 9, 2021 1:24 pm

Uncertainty principle (h/t Heisenberg) is the more accurately you measure a physical property of a quantum system, the less accurately you can measure others. Not sure of the analogy with Climate Change.

ATheoK
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 9, 2021 3:02 pm

Shouldn’t that calculation be ‘lack of problem’ divided by ‘improbability ot it happening’?

At least that is how alarmists are pushing the precautionary principle where “oh no! It’s worse than we expect.” translates into trillion dollar legal requirements.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 10, 2021 12:36 am

Sounds like some mad cows got into conferencing too!

Disputin
Reply to  Bill Toland
September 9, 2021 7:03 am

No, that’s far too soon. Postpone it to 2150. At least.

MARTIN BRUMBY
Reply to  Disputin
September 9, 2021 8:24 am

Disputin / Bill
I agree.

And Glasgow isn’t the right place.

Much safer in the South Sandwich Islands.

I kid you not. One of the twelve “Green” destinations first conceded to by the UK Genius Beloved Leaders as ‘safe’ for UK plebs to visit. (Most of which wouldn’t allow you in, anyway.)

Safer for delegates anyway. No danger in 2150 of me giving these parasitic clowns the kind of “jab” I’d like to provide.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  MARTIN BRUMBY
September 9, 2021 11:07 am

I agree, South Georgia Island is the perfect location:

“Discovered by Europeans in 1675, South Georgia had no indigenous population due to harsh climate and remoteness. Captain James Cook in HMS Resolution made the first landing, survey and mapping of the island…” — wikipedia, so caution is advised.

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  MARTIN BRUMBY
September 9, 2021 11:48 am

What’s wrong with an asteroid? We should be all over the asteroid belt by then, especially if the seas keep rising.

Reply to  Stephen Skinner
September 9, 2021 12:41 pm

I don’t think that the seas are going to rise that high.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
September 9, 2021 3:06 pm

My thoughts exactly, not if you were planning to go by boat, that is.

Krishna Gans
Reply to  Disputin
September 9, 2021 9:00 am

Do we really need COPxyz ?
No, why let take it place whenever ?There is no need at all.

ATheoK
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 9, 2021 3:10 pm

By then it will be a retro climate con convention.
That is, a climate con con.

The kids will love it. They’ll wear imagined old clothes and makeup resembling the climate heroes and villains.
By then, all pseudo science should be stricken from databases.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 9, 2021 3:53 pm

Krish: given that nothing useful came out of the first 25 meetings, I think that’s enough data points to establish a trend.

SxyxS
Reply to  Disputin
September 9, 2021 9:59 am

They will postpone it till the day arctic ice melts away/glaciers disappear/maledives drown…
It’s AGW all over again and as AGW it helps the same tiny group of people to push their agenda.
Incredible coincidences always help the same group of people.

Reply to  Disputin
September 9, 2021 10:23 am

Probably could cancel the entire event. Hurricane Larry is weakening — obviously due to global cooling … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVPsAM4nyhU

Ozonebust
Reply to  John Shewchuk
September 9, 2021 2:23 pm

Larry is weakening because the convective pressure the drives it is weakening, and local conditions weakening, and, part of that weakening is caused by Hurricane OLAF in the East Pacific is adsorbing that pressure pulse.

When you see three kites flying like in 2017 the convective pressure pulse was significant, plus local conditions.

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Reply to  Ozonebust
September 9, 2021 2:42 pm

Is “Larry” the result of Global Warming or Global Cooling?

Ozonebust
Reply to  John Shewchuk
September 9, 2021 3:21 pm

John
Tropical cyclones exist in both states. The same motivator is present.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Ozonebust
September 9, 2021 7:56 pm

The same motivator is present.”

Al Gore?

ATheoK
Reply to  Disputin
September 9, 2021 3:04 pm

Make it a time capsule.
Only include names and what their beliefs are.

e.g., mickey manniacal – hokeystick.

Rick C
Reply to  Disputin
September 9, 2021 5:06 pm

No, they can’t postpone it at this late date! Just think of all the wasted propaganda they’ve produced already. And there’s much more in the propaganda pipeline scheduled to be metered out in increasing quantity over the next 2 months. It will all be stale and useless if the COP is delayed again. And by the time they get around to actually meeting the 6th IPCC assessment report will already be old news and thoroughly shredded by actual scientific analysis. Postponement would be a disaster for climate hysterics and their travel budgets.

hiskorr
Reply to  Rick C
September 9, 2021 6:28 pm

Right! So it should be postponed!

John Law
Reply to  Disputin
September 10, 2021 2:00 am

Glasgow will be in the grip of an ice age by then; if it isn’t already!

Dave Yaussy
Reply to  Bill Toland
September 9, 2021 8:26 am

We should all be hoping they proceed with it. It is certain to fail in a very public way. They will announce some sort of victory at the close of the meeting, but it will rapidly be torn apart by disappointed greens for not going far enough. The rest of us can sit and watch them demolish themselves.

And I think they are smart to meet in Glasgow in November. All of us make fun of them for picking COP locations that are boondoggle destination trips for government functionaries. This is their chance to show that they are serious about climate change, not getting a free vacay. They’ll soon be back to meeting in Rio, but hereafter they can point to the time they went to the frozen north for their confab.

george1st:)
Reply to  Dave Yaussy
September 9, 2021 9:31 am

Hopefully no doubt Al Gore will be there and the weather will be icy as usual where ever he goes .

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  george1st:)
September 9, 2021 7:58 pm

Whenever he opens his mouth, a glacier loses gigatons of ice.

george1st:)
Reply to  Bill Toland
September 9, 2021 9:24 am

Surely at least 2060 when China ‘will be ‘ at at zero emissions ‘ as promised by Xi ‘ .
Then the World will have been saved and no more COP’s will be required .

ResourceGuy
Reply to  george1st:)
September 9, 2021 9:56 am

They will then have COP Reunion meetings and COP Legend meetings and COP Travel Rewards beach meetings

Rhee
Reply to  Bill Toland
September 9, 2021 11:27 am

why not 2150?
then the parties can sort out empirical temperature readings and averages for an entire century

Dennis
Reply to  Bill Toland
September 10, 2021 5:32 am

China and other developing nations extended to 2100.

Joao Martins
September 9, 2021 6:05 am

“With a global fossil-fuel boom in evidence, and international cooperation to reduce CO2 in disarray, this is an opportunity for COP26 to go “net zero.” “

Is it?

Or is it a good “justification” to chicken out of that uncomfortable discussion without losing face?

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Joao Martins
September 9, 2021 7:07 am

I concur, this is what I suggested a few days ago, fear of Covid will start a stampede to cancel COP26 at the Eleventh hour. They really should hold it on Zoom anyway as that will open it up to a whole lot more excuses for nothing being accomplished.

Peter East
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
September 9, 2021 4:01 pm

In NZ our Minister for Climate, who happens to be a Green MP has stated that there will be no Zoom meeting option at COP(out) 26 so he has to attend in person. Bloody hypocrite!

Duker
Reply to  Peter East
September 10, 2021 12:47 am

At Paris 2016 it was a national party minister who signed the country up to the Paris Climate Treaty….which was supported by Green Party.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Peter East
September 10, 2021 1:56 am

Not only a bloody hypocrite but a bloody fool as well! Leaving NZ in the spring to go to Glasgow in November is not a brilliant move. Or maybe the covid restrictions have given him such a case of cabin fever that going anywhere that is not NZ is something to look forward to….

Roland F Hirsch
Reply to  Peter East
September 10, 2021 4:33 pm

But, but, but …. by attending he and the others will help release an extra couple 100,000 tons of life-giving CO2 into the air. Cumulatively the 26 COPs have likely provided 2 million or more tons of CO2!

R Terrell
Reply to  Joao Martins
September 9, 2021 8:22 am

If they postpone it long enough, we will find out if they were right, when they said we only had 12 years (or whatever) to ‘save’ the earth. By 2050 we should have a pretty good idea.

Leo Smith
Reply to  R Terrell
September 9, 2021 9:05 am

Catastrophic climate change is like fusion power. It’s always 10 years away. Or as IIRC the red queen might have said ‘it’s climate change every other day, but never climate change today‘.

george1st:)
Reply to  R Terrell
September 9, 2021 9:39 am

Save the Earth from what ? The Earth will be here for millions of more years .
We need to save our people from our politicians and leaders who cannot control the unnecessary population explosions in certain demographic areas .

Ian Johnson
Reply to  R Terrell
September 9, 2021 4:39 pm

It seems to have been a hundred months.I followed this because it was so laughable. 100 months to save the world | Environment | The Guardian

September 9, 2021 6:22 am

Remote! It’s good enough for out children. It should be good enough for COP.

September 9, 2021 6:30 am

Whenever the COP26 takes place, the conference needs to focus on an answer to what will replace crude oil.

Before the 1900’s we had NONE of the 6,000 products from oil and petroleum products. By ceasing oil production and fracking, the supply chain to refineries will be severed and there will no need for refineries as they will have no crude oil to manufacture fuels and derivatives. Without crude oil, manufacturing the various fuels for transportation infrastructures and the military, and manufacturing the derivatives that make the thousands of products used in our daily lives would be terminated.

 

Without crude oil, how will the world “clone” those oil derivatives that provide the thousands of products from petroleum that are essential to our medical industry, electronics, communications, transportation infrastructure, our electricity generation, our cooling, heating, manufacturing, and agriculture—indeed, virtually every aspect of our daily lives and lifestyles?

Spetzer86
Reply to  Ronald Stein
September 9, 2021 7:04 am

Without petroleum and coal for heavy vehicles and steel, they can’t have their turbines and panels. An interesting conundrum.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Spetzer86
September 9, 2021 9:07 am

I watched a TV program on how they build and maintain those offshore wind turbines. Biggest offshore platform I’ve ever seen, steel built diesel powered. Madness

Joao Martins
Reply to  Ronald Stein
September 9, 2021 7:07 am

Very wise observation.

If some “keep it in the ground” fanatic once has a coronary accident and has to stay in a hospital, it would be a good exercise for him or her to think how to make catheters out of corn meal, tubes for serum bottles out of organic waste from agricultural indistries, syringes out of who knows what, etc. …

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Joao Martins
September 9, 2021 3:15 pm

syringes out of who knows what, etc. …

Porcupine quills might serve in a pinch …

Joao Martins
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 10, 2021 5:37 am

Beware! Are porcupines in risk of extintion?

bill Johnston
Reply to  Ronald Stein
September 9, 2021 7:58 am

Those questions will be addressed during COP 33.

Vuk
September 9, 2021 6:47 am

Lithium batteries on ISS catch fire ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58497899

Rich Davis
Reply to  Vuk
September 9, 2021 1:37 pm

@Mods

Spam

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Vuk
September 9, 2021 2:46 pm

Nit surprising with decaying Russian junk. No doubt decaying Chinese junk will replace it in time.

Rod Evans
September 9, 2021 7:08 am

The greens need to ask themselves a simple question. Why even bother?
There have been 25 COP conferences thus far. The impact these conferences have had on their key focus of attention CO2 has been zero. The graph of CO2 rising steadily and without any change over the past 25 COP events and their outcomes, show COP conferences are both pointless and ineffective at affecting CO2.
Why do they bother?
Is the allure of being in Glasgow UK in November so overwhelming, they can’t resist it?
Those who have ever been in Glasgow in November, will understand where I am coming from. 🙂

Gerry, England
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 9, 2021 7:45 am

Yep, I never really understood that one either. I thought sunny climes were their usual choice.

Oldseadog
Reply to  Gerry, England
September 9, 2021 8:18 am

Nah, if Al Gore is going it will snow.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Gerry, England
September 9, 2021 1:17 pm

Poland?

M Courtney
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 9, 2021 7:45 am

The first aim of any institution is survival. Then growth. Then to spawn similar institutions. It’s the way life works.

If an institution stops doing that it is dead. The AGW movement is made up of institutions that have fed off the energy (and money) thrown into saving the world. They need the energy to keep the institution running.

Saying, “That’s enough for now” is like saying to a shark “just drift a bit”. If they stop, they starve.

It doesn’t matter that the COPs have all achieved none of their declared objectives. The real objective is for them to exist and create hype and thus energy for the movement.

Can you imagine the disaster if they actually did save the world? What would drive the purpose and funding of Green NGOs, Climatology Departments, Environmental Journalists… And the hangers-on.
Solving the problem is the last thing they want to do.

Mr.
Reply to  M Courtney
September 9, 2021 9:16 am

Yes, today’s ranks of CoPers want their efforts to bear fruit, but not until after they’ve retired and start collecting their overly generous pensions.

Which means that CoPs will continue to be held for generations.

ATheoK
Reply to  M Courtney
September 9, 2021 4:46 pm

The first aim of any institution is survival. Then growth. Then to spawn similar institutions. It’s the way life works.”

No!

If there are similar institutions there will be a turf war.

The goal of a new organization is to claim turf, then to expand that turf.
Then it is intermittent turf defense and turf expansion.

Any spawning will be of subordinate institutions, just as the IPCC is a subordinate to UNFCCC and they to the UN.

M Courtney
Reply to  ATheoK
September 10, 2021 2:38 am

Not so different.
It’s how families work.
Look at the Godfather.

R Terrell
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 9, 2021 8:28 am

ALL these meetings have one thing in common. It’s my old saying from my Navy days, that after it’s all said and done, there’s a whole lot MORE SAID, than done! 95% of all meetings are a complete waste of time. AND MONEY, too! Prove me wrong!

Leo Smith
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 9, 2021 9:14 am

Is the allure of being in Glasgow UK in November so overwhelming, they can’t resist it?

Those who have ever been in Glasgow in November, will understand where I am coming from. 🙂

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Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 9, 2021 1:17 pm

But this time it’s different.

ATheoK
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 9, 2021 4:41 pm

It has never been about CO₂.
It has always been about changing democracy and republics to socialism.

Rainer Bensch
Reply to  ATheoK
September 11, 2021 5:09 am

And to get all those private cars off the streets.

John Law
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 10, 2021 2:28 am

Are there any survivors?

Mr.
September 9, 2021 7:09 am

Bending over forwards?

ResourceGuy
September 9, 2021 7:28 am
Dave Fair
Reply to  ResourceGuy
September 9, 2021 12:00 pm

I predict its going to be cold for the next 35 years in the UK and Northern Europe. I could be wrong about the AMO’s approximately 70-year cycle.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Dave Fair
September 9, 2021 1:15 pm

The cold will be bad enough but the organized policy reach in the opposite direction compounds the problems. Degrading science and professional orgs is equally appalling. But then perfect storms are multi-factor problem sets.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Dave Fair
September 9, 2021 1:20 pm

This is also where cycle variability comes in. We went through a higher than average peak and what comes next could also be a worse than average down cycle. Never mind those ill advised detrended cycles using 2.5 turns in the data series to do it. I guess we’ll look into those reef coring data sets when it’s too late.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Dave Fair
September 9, 2021 1:31 pm

It’s easier to predict policy and advocacy reaction than to predict the AMO. It will be a new generation of leaders and advocates then. The Dear Leaders will use the phrase “who could have known” and shake their heads at long gone decisionmakers that came before while retaining the funding sources tied to older global warming taxes. Meanwhile advocacy armies will pivot to plastics and foods without taking blame for past misdeeds. The UN will pivot to other wealth redistribution schemes and ask for more funding. And WHO will declare they can’t find the origin of the COVID19 virus in a final final report. And COP56 will focus on advancements in fusion research and deforestation caused by wood pellet burning and ethanol production.

ATheoK
Reply to  ResourceGuy
September 9, 2021 4:53 pm

Nah!

Tell the attendees it will be sandals, shorts and short sleeve weather while bikinis will be at the beach.

Any warm clothing made from fossil fuels should have their price raised by 20X minimum. Natural products prices should be raised fifty times.

Then multiply by ten the price of anything warm in Glasgow. And all liquor should be 25 times the before COP26 price.

fretslider
September 9, 2021 7:29 am

quarantine costs

Can easily be minimised if they all fail to get on the private jets and stay wherever they are.

Even that bozo Harry.

John Law
Reply to  fretslider
September 10, 2021 2:44 am

Leave our prince alone. He is there specifically to kiss frogs and release princesses from evil spells. Royal work indeed.

Ron Long
September 9, 2021 7:30 am

“Global Injustice”? Would that be like minimizing CO2 in the atmosphere and decreasing plant food productivity? No?

M Courtney
September 9, 2021 7:37 am

Exactly. The Tories can’t offload Boris until this fiasco is over. They need him to carry the can for the inevitable diplomatic failure.

But the Tories desperately need to get rid of him before he completely bankrupts the country and further befouls our foreign policy. We could all be Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe’d the way he’s going.

Yet no-one wants the poison chalice of COP26.
It would be remembered that their first step on the world stage was a complete farce. So they need to get this over with.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  M Courtney
September 9, 2021 3:13 pm

I should think the 1st step in a post Boris UK is to locate some actual conservatives before people forget what a conservative is and what they stand for.

B Clarke
September 9, 2021 7:42 am

Well I’m hoping it will go ahead,and so is the UK government, but I think our reasons are opposing reasons.

The divide between the rich west and the so called developing world is huge, the west has not fulfilled its promises of support,and I’ve seen no indications it will.

Major powers ,Russia, China,India, don’t seem to want to play ball with co2 imissions, a major stumbling block for concensus, which is what its all about.

What watered down spin will MSM regurgitate if none of the stumbling blocks above can be overcome?

This is why I’m hoping it will go ahead not because some delegates will not be vaccinated or they can’t afford the sticky fingers of hoteliers ,thats just spin, its because they simply can’t find a concensus in a way forward , its doomed this time round ,they have not achieved much if anything since the last live cop.its going to be a publicity disaster.

Bring it on I say.

As for the UK wanting it to continue , my opinion is its business ,

Its business for sticky fingers ,its business for the investment already made in the green blob

Its about sealing deals hand shakes , and ” would you like to sign a contract sir,

Its always been business in the UK, climate and the environment are a means to a end.

BRING IT ON.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  B Clarke
September 9, 2021 2:10 pm

Carrie wants it to continue, so Boris will support it.

Gerry, England
September 9, 2021 7:44 am

Institutional Investors Group on Climate Change (IIGCC)???

Oh…subsidy scammers are us.

bill Johnston
September 9, 2021 7:56 am

Everyone must attend to produce “a credible political outcome”. Any questions?

Dean
September 9, 2021 8:08 am

Whoa!

Choose to spend all that delegate attending money on actual projects????

Insanity, and setting the most dangerous of precedents.

Iain Russell
September 9, 2021 8:15 am

Life’s a bitch and then you die.

Mr.
Reply to  Iain Russell
September 9, 2021 9:20 am

Ever thought of going into the greetings cards business?

Redge
Reply to  Iain Russell
September 9, 2021 11:36 am

Life’s a beach and there you fry

September 9, 2021 8:17 am

efforts to hold those in power accountable”

A scent of Robin Hood lies in the air. You can only hope these brave outsiders and underdogs succeed in their effort against the “powerful”, so that they can bring the glory of net zero to us all, except for themselves and their private jets.

bonbon
September 9, 2021 8:23 am

¨Repeated requests to the UK Presidency for clarity around support for logistics and quarantine costs have also not been forthcoming or made public. ¨

UK Presidency? Has anyone informed Buckingham?

Richard Page
Reply to  bonbon
September 9, 2021 10:53 am

Presidency of the COP – it’s not a real thing, it’s a bit like being milk monitor in primary school.

John Law
Reply to  Richard Page
September 10, 2021 2:51 am

In parts of Glasgow, milk monitors have assault rifles.

old engineer
Reply to  bonbon
September 9, 2021 1:39 pm

There really is a President of COP26. His name is Alok Sharma. From Wikipedia:

“Alok Sharma (born 7 September 1967) is a British politician serving as President for COP26 and Minister of State at the Cabinet Office since 2021.”

from: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alok_Sharma

Apparently the COP26 office of the president is called the “UK presidency” to help identify which country to blame.

Steve Z
September 9, 2021 8:25 am

If so many of the delegates are so afraid of big bad Covid Delta, Mu, and whatever other Greek letter FrankenFauci can assign to a “new” variant, maybe they can have a global Zoom call instead. It’s a lot cheaper, and results in much less CO2 emissions, to bounce waves off communications satellites in space than to fly hundreds of wannabe planet-savers from their home countries to Scotland and back in private jets.

mark from the midwest
September 9, 2021 8:28 am

Just looked at the hotel situation and there are tons of rooms available in Glasgow in early November for reasonable rates at decent business class hotels. But maybe a Marriott Courtyard is below the standards of these, in the words of Elmer Fudd, “vaway impotent peepow.”

michael hart
September 9, 2021 8:35 am

“Vaccine inequity, unaffordable accommodation…”

Unaffordable accommodation in Glasgow used to be considered one of the social ills of the UK. And still f’ing is. Perhaps the bleating jet-setters should redirect their energies towards solving real-life problems instead of inventing imaginary new ones to ‘save the planet’?

J Mac
September 9, 2021 8:40 am

COP out: It’s the chinese virus what done it!

Leo Smith
September 9, 2021 8:59 am

“The great thing about Glasgow is that if there’s a nuclear attack it’ll look exactly the same afterwards.”

Billy Connolly…

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 9, 2021 2:51 pm

Now, that there’s funny!

From my deliberately brief experiences of Glasgow, I’d have to agree.

John Law
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 10, 2021 2:56 am

Hey see you Leo!

Coeur de Lion
September 9, 2021 9:03 am

Who is Tasmeem and who pays her? Anyone remember Katowice and the snow? Anyone remember the IPCC’s SR1.5? I read some of it. We’re already one degree above preindustrial levels (assumption). Surely even climate obsessionists can’t have a problem with half a degree? Madness

Bruce Cobb
September 9, 2021 9:19 am

Darn it! Whatever will I do with the 50-gallon drums of popcorn I ordered?

PCman999
September 9, 2021 9:20 am

From the BBC: “And some officials have said there could be a positive to COP26 being cancelled…. because it’s a real opportunity for governments to spend that money on lots of sustainable and renewable projects that can be discussed there.”

So the BBC admits the COP26 is a waste of money!

philincalifornia
Reply to  PCman999
September 9, 2021 9:46 am

The UK government, and I use that term loosely, gave 30 Million quid to stabilise the climate. Yeah, that’s the ticket, take the COP26 money and stabilise it sooner.

Morons without calculators are way more dangerous than anything “climate”.

ATheoK
Reply to  PCman999
September 9, 2021 5:30 pm

And that attending a COP is expensive
And that Glasgow doesn’t deserve idiot COP money…

Well, not the last one officially, but that’s the way I read the offensive message from England the IPCC.

Heck, if they do manage to hold the COP26 in Glasgow, use Scotland’s coarsest wool to knit socks. Then put the socks up for sale in the hotel gift shops for fifty pounds per pair.

Have all of the laundry services ‘lose’ all socks. They can gift the socks to the poor.

Don’t forget to accidently charge them VAT even if they’re not from the EU.

philincalifornia
September 9, 2021 9:34 am

“Vaccine inequity, unaffordable accommodation, travel challenges and new surges in the Covid19 pandemic will lock out huge numbers of developing country delegates from the UN climate talks set to take place in November.” (Climate Action Network, September 7, 2021)

I think that just as the Arctic sea ice is now a noticeable problem for the people who can’t get real jobs, it’s likely that delegates being locked out are, in fact, reaching the inevitable other-people’s-money problem.

…. of course, it’s Covid wot did it.

ResourceGuy
September 9, 2021 9:54 am

Meanwhile Russia is moving ahead with design build contracts for the world’s largest LNG port on the Baltic.

Peta of Newark
September 9, 2021 10:05 am

Plus there’s talk of a ‘Covid Firebreak’ for October >> Back to wearing face-nappies for the plebs then.

Other talk was that the Fishy Woman with her eyes too close together ‘hated England
Jeremy Clarkson

No she doesn’t, protesting strongly
Nicola

What about the folks who voted for her then…
Prince Phillip. RIP

Would a coupla pints of ‘heavy’ and fried Mars Bar be any use?…..
Or were they the cause….
Over to you ‘Correlation Peeps’

Meanwhile back in England, a great number our current woes:

  • lack of truck drivers
  • food shortages while full grown slaughter-ready pigs are land-filled
  • shortage of wood for house building despite Drax
  • shortage of sand for house building due to a “Global Supply Issue” while England is built upon Glacial Till sand
  • lack of care-workers (also hospitality) because they all bu66ered off home to Poland
  • lack of money for Boris and his mistress to blow of ‘Green’ and new kitchens
  • peeps are gonna ‘need’ vaccine passports to go on a night out….
  • …..and a triple vaccine booster shot. Schoolkids included

and d’ya know why that is?
The people who voted for Brexit are what caused it all

It is all so Perfectly and Completely Crap – wtf is actually going on here?
Maybe if Ehrlich taken a shedload of Magic Mushrooms or some LSD he might have got a few more things right than he did – he was on the right track but…..

steve
September 9, 2021 10:11 am

There is so much you can say in reply… so much to laugh and poke fun at… so many own goals to point out, suffice to say they really are all just plain stark raving mad and suffering delusions.

Olen
September 9, 2021 10:22 am

Jimmy Durante’s song of should I go or should I stay was entertaining but the COP26 is not.

It is however comforting that we have heroes fighting climate change letting us know that weather is more violent and nearing point of no return. Do I have to write SARCASM.

Neo
September 9, 2021 10:34 am

COP-OUT-26

michel
September 9, 2021 10:41 am

The simple way we tell if these guys are for real is: what do they say about China?

Do they accept for one contorted reason after another that its OK for China to continue increasing emissions?

In that case they do not believe in the physics they keep raving on about.

Or do they demand China get itself down. Eg to 5 billion tons a year by 2030, 2 billion by 2040 and 1 billion by 2050?

Thought not.

J Mac
September 9, 2021 11:19 am

We would be better off piling up all of the money, that will otherwise be wasted on COP26, and simply burning it.

Redge
September 9, 2021 11:30 am

I’ll be going to COP26.

I’m looking forward to visiting the conference centre, the hotels, and the bars so I can open the windows and turn off all the heating.

That should let the watermelons know what it’s like to live without fossil fuels.

Stephen Skinner
September 9, 2021 11:45 am

So there isn’t an climate ’emergency’ then?
And…SARS-CoV-2 has not caused this but the illogical and emotive reactions.

Gregory Woods
September 9, 2021 11:57 am

Meanwhile, fossil fuels and the planet move on.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on…

Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 9, 2021 1:08 pm

As I understand it, the UK placed the US on the Red List just recently. Whats’ the point of holding a CoP if you can’t have the US there promising lots of money?

Gary Pate
September 9, 2021 1:11 pm

The whordes of actual prostitutes coming to Scotland to make money from the political prostitutes are going to be bummed…

Rich Davis
Reply to  Gary Pate
September 9, 2021 1:55 pm

Gary, Gary, Gary! That’s “sex workers” not your hateful whores and prostitutes. They’re essential workers. Probably will have an audience with the queen to celebrate their horizontal heroism.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 9, 2021 3:00 pm

Probably will have an audience with the queen to celebrate their horizontal heroism.

Just imagine the trauma they might have to deal with if Al Gore was there….

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Gary Pate
September 9, 2021 2:25 pm

That’s just the rent boys….

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Gary Pate
September 9, 2021 2:58 pm

The whordes of actual prostitutes

I like this collective noun for prossies!

old engineer
September 9, 2021 1:59 pm

“…will lock out huge numbers of developing country delegates from the UN climate talks…”

Those locked out will undoubtedly include the 348 delegates from Côte d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast) that attended COP25.

See: Analysis: Which countries have sent the most delegates to COP25? | Carbon Brief

Derg
September 9, 2021 3:23 pm

James you are not thinking of the hookers and cocaine salespeople…now what are they going to do?

September 9, 2021 4:15 pm

Cancelling the Coop 26 ‘Climate’ event would certainly benefit the planet by removing a nutty ill-informed talk-fest from its surface.

Craig from Oz
September 9, 2021 5:18 pm

So… CAN can’t?

Edward Katz
September 9, 2021 6:21 pm

Keep moving it back because the climate alarmists have plenty of experience doing this. Just look at how often they’ve moved back “our last chance to save the planet” and ” the final tipping point”..

John F Hultquist
September 9, 2021 6:29 pm

What do the folks from all the warm countries do with the cold weather gear they use during a conference in a cold place?
I could use a new coat — it goes to -4°C (-20°F) here on a regular winter.

lee
September 9, 2021 7:38 pm

The solution is so easy. Just drag North Africa towards the Antarctic. And any other countries that want to do so. Just use those unused ice breakers as tugs. 😉

Jeff Alberts
September 9, 2021 7:48 pm

“Vaccine inequity, unaffordable accommodation, travel challenges and new surges in the Covid19 pandemic will lock out huge numbers of developing country delegates from the UN climate talks Make The US Give Us Free Money Meeting set to take place in November.”

Fixed it for them. Don’t know how that glaring an error made it past their editors.

September 9, 2021 8:32 pm

Excerpt from the Climate Action Network Press Release:

“With just two months to go, it is evident that a safe, inclusive and just global climate conference is impossible given the failure to support the access to vaccines to millions of people in poor countries, the rising costs of travel and accommodation, and the uncertainty in the course of the Covid19 pandemic.”

How can anyone not agree with such obvious wisdom?

For once, I completely agree with the Climate Catastrophists.
POSTPONE COP26 INDEFINITELY – EVEN PERMANENTLY!

For once, the Covid-19 lockdown fraud has proved itself worthwhile and constructive – who knew?

“It’s an ill wind that blows no one any good.”

ozspeaksup
September 10, 2021 5:08 am

well thats excellent news;-)))
as good as 5km travel limits lifted for regional vic today
probably for about 3 or so days till dictator Dan has another panic attack

Dennis
September 10, 2021 5:35 am

Corn off the COP

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