Express Readers Rebel Against Its Green Agenda

Reposted from NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

AUGUST 20, 2021

By Paul Homewood

One of the strangest phenomena this year has been the sight of the Daily Express embracing far left climate policies, courtesy of their ex-Mirror, Remoaner, left wing editor Gary Jones.

The Express is famous for its Putinesque opinion polls, but has never put its ludicrous Green Britain agenda to such a vote. Now however their readers have stuck two fingers up:

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Forking out for the future?

You recently took part in our Green Britain survey. More than 4,000 votes were cast and the results are now in.

A staggering 83% of respondents say they wouldn’t be happy to invest £10,000 into greener energy over the next 20 years, in order to give their grandchildren a better chance at climate survival.

It’s worth noting that some voters may not be able to afford to invest such a hefty sum.

When it came to personal choices, 73% of voters said they won’t buy an electric car instead of a petrol or diesel car, even after considering on average that they sell at the same price. 16% said they would purchase an electric car, while 2% of those who voted already own one.

A whopping 72% refused to cute down on their meat consumption per meat – while 20% of respondents said they will down by at least 25%. 7% of those who voted already have meat-free diets. Here, scientists say cutting out meat won’t solve climate change.

When it came to clothing, 69% of Express.co.uk readers said they do not purchase anyt fast fashion – while a fair 13% said they will reduce the amount they buy.

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I don’t understand why they needed a poll to tell them that.

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fretslider
August 21, 2021 6:19 am

 the Daily Express embracing far left climate policies

Don’t be too surprised: Trinity Mirror buys Daily Express group for £127m

Reach plc (known as Trinity Mirror between 1999 and 2018) is a British newspaper, magazine and digital publisher. It is one of Britain’s biggest newspaper groups.

I’m not sure why they didn’t call it Preach.

commieBob
Reply to  fretslider
August 21, 2021 7:20 am

the Daily Express embracing far left climate policies

For whatever reason this reminded me of ‘get woke go broke’. I did a web search to find out if that still prevails and one of the results was this. I’m not sure what lesson to take from an ignominious smack down of the woke. It does indicate that there’s some limit to how stupid things can get … I hope.

Certainly, if the Daily Express moves contrary to the opinions of its majority readers, it will lose circulation. We’ve never seen an example where a ‘woke’ organization gains more customers than it loses.

fretslider
Reply to  commieBob
August 21, 2021 7:52 am

The Express was always ‘pro-Brexit’

It has more or less kept that stance, but everything else has shifted far leftwards

Reply to  fretslider
August 21, 2021 6:10 pm

Globalism / localism* isn’t the same ideological fracture line as socialism / capitalism.

* Surely someone has coined the word already? Better than “nationalism,” IMHO – a “localist” is not necessarily a “nationalist.”

Nick Graves
Reply to  writing observer
August 22, 2021 1:48 am

I’ve seen ‘localism’ used on Mercola.com and other global-sceptic sites.

patrick healy
Reply to  commieBob
August 21, 2021 12:17 pm

Are all those grammatical errors and misspellings in the above article indicative of the depths to which British Churlinism has descended?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  patrick healy
August 21, 2021 1:31 pm

I was going to make the same sort of remark. Pretty terrible.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  patrick healy
August 21, 2021 2:29 pm

Yes, my thoughts exactly.

In Australia this seems commonplace now. Apparently it’s creeping. Must be Global Warming ™.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  patrick healy
August 22, 2021 12:24 am

News media has long since been about “infotainment” rather than reporting of actual news. I don’t watch free to air or paid news TV here in Australia because it is heavily sanitised.

kybill
August 21, 2021 6:31 am

There is a difference in thinking between the MSM, the coastal elites and the “common man”. The “common man” is outside the airport perimeter in Afghanistan while the coastal elites are on vacation in Delaware or on Martha’s Vineyard.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  kybill
August 21, 2021 6:55 am

For the UK substitute Crete for Martha’s Vineyard. While on holiday you’re normally too busy to make a phone call

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  kybill
August 21, 2021 6:56 am

… while the coastal elites are on vacation in Delaware or on Martha’s Vineyard.

You left out Camp David in Maryland.

Nick Graves
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
August 22, 2021 1:49 am

Are you still allowed to call it that in this woke era?

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  kybill
August 21, 2021 9:13 am

Hopefully they’ll get drenched this weekend and maybe even O’bammy’s house will wash away.

Bruce Cobb
August 21, 2021 6:35 am

Irony alert: People are already paying dearly for the Green Agenda, and will be paying even more, whether they realize it or not. But that’s the beauty of the Green Scam.

fretslider
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 21, 2021 7:09 am

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

gregole
Reply to  fretslider
August 21, 2021 7:25 pm

Beauty contests are never pretty.

Redge
August 21, 2021 6:37 am

First Green: “The peasants are revolting!”

Second Green: “The peasants have always been revolting”

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Redge
August 21, 2021 6:38 am

Third Green: Let them eat cake!”

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 21, 2021 8:23 am

Fourth Green: let them drive Teslas

H.R.
Reply to  It doesn't add up...
August 21, 2021 9:53 am

Fifth Green: They can put them on autopilot and they can eat their cake while it drives for them.

Utopia!

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 21, 2021 11:49 pm

But only once a week as they MUST watch their dietary requirements to conform with the grand policy of dictating to the peeps what they should eat, drink, & how much of each they should indulge in, etc!!! They must also comply with the grand policy of how & what to think!!!

Robert A. Taylor
Reply to  Redge
August 21, 2021 12:07 pm

Question: When will they be Dragon Hearted enough to be Revolting.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Redge
August 21, 2021 1:33 pm

Dennis: Help! Help! I’m bein’ repressed!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 21, 2021 2:21 pm

Now you see the violence inherent in the system!

August 21, 2021 6:39 am

Actual newspaper paper has gotta go – not CO2 neutral – isn’t that correct griffter? And, those people are gonna get EVs whether they want them or not.

Greg61
Reply to  Anti-griff
August 21, 2021 7:16 am

I doubt we will all get EVs. They will realise the world doesn’t have the resources for everyone to have an EV. Only elites will be permitted to own a vehicle. The rest of us will use transit or ride share of some sort

H.R.
Reply to  Greg61
August 21, 2021 8:06 am

Rickshaw futures are UP!

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  H.R.
August 21, 2021 1:39 pm

Horribly funny!

michael hart
Reply to  Greg61
August 21, 2021 10:42 am

And the UK government also gets hefty revenues from fuel taxes, at every point in the production cycle. If they try and recover that lost revenue through massively increased general electricity prices, then the wheels will come off pretty quickly.

They still haven’t thought this thing through, or are hiding some pretty dire warnings.

Back in the 80’s you could still see TV documentaries about how our whole civilisation was built on the back of the “black gold” of petroleum. Fast forward a couple of decades and apparently we can achieve the same results with a few windmills.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Greg61
August 22, 2021 12:26 am

Soylent Green.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 21, 2021 6:43 am

Is the Daily Express something like Mother Jones?

griff
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 21, 2021 7:36 am

It is for working class OAPs over 80

fretslider
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 7:55 am

Ah, now the mask slips.

A comfortably off middle class – hate the workers – twerp.

How very Grauniad.

MarkW
Reply to  fretslider
August 21, 2021 8:35 am

Also someone who views itself as a hipster who hates the old people who keep telling it no.

fretslider
Reply to  MarkW
August 21, 2021 8:44 am

And who paid for its education and health…

griff
Reply to  MarkW
August 21, 2021 8:56 am

I’m a hipster… ?

Dang it, the avocado dripped all over my beard

fretslider
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 9:02 am

You can’t be called very bright

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  fretslider
August 21, 2021 1:41 pm

Blight, maybe?

MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 3:22 pm

I didn’t say you were a hipster, I said you viewed yourself as one.
I see that your reading comprehension hasn’t improved one bit.
What a poser you are.

griff
Reply to  fretslider
August 21, 2021 8:55 am

and yet that’s exactly who reads it.

From Hurst Media:

RETIREMENT

  • 495,000 readers are aged over 55
  • 83% are over 55
  • A typical express reader is aged 69
  • 42% BETWEEN 55-74
fretslider
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 9:04 am

So you hate older people who paid for your education and health and you hate the working class

What do you do for an encore?

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Mr.
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 9:34 am

And Griff, look what happens at your “bible”-

Readers of The Guardian were more likely to be women, with nearly 15 million monthly female readers in the United Kingdom from April 2019 to March 2020. Readership of The Guardian proved to be more popular among older adults than younger ones.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Mr.
August 21, 2021 1:49 pm

All between the mean and 1 standard deviation below IQ.

Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 10:59 am

Unfortunately I read it griff. Anf I am hardly uneducated working class, although unlike you, I do know what its like to work

Alba
Reply to  griff
August 22, 2021 7:36 am

Where’s the mention of working class?

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  fretslider
August 21, 2021 9:16 am

Not that familiar with life in the UK. Does Griff live in his Mum’s basement?

PETER EVANS
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 8:58 am

OAP=Old Age Pensioner?

Reply to  PETER EVANS
August 21, 2021 11:00 am

yes.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  PETER EVANS
August 21, 2021 7:39 pm

That was a new one to me, too.

DaveS
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 12:28 pm

Who have the wisdom to recognise global warming hysteria for the BS that it is.

MarkW
Reply to  DaveS
August 21, 2021 3:24 pm

In griff’s mind, those who live on pensions are a drag on society.
On the other hand, those who live on welfare are just getting what they are entitled to.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 11:55 pm

Your true self is creeping through, anti Human being except those you decide to not be anti towards, people you can manipulate & control & dictate to, now when did that last happen, wasn’t it somewhere in western Europe back in the 1930s & 1940s, & didn’t an awful lot of people lose their lives in trying to prevent such a deviant & destructive mentality??? You will be judged Griffy baby!!!

Alba
Reply to  griff
August 22, 2021 7:35 am

That just about sums up griff’s level of articulation and accuracy. The comment strikes me as somewhat snooty, too. Very much in line with the kind of metropolitan elite thinking that was so successful for the Labour Party on 12 December 2019.

Ron Long
August 21, 2021 6:49 am

Now that CAGW Reality has bit the Express owners in the a$$, will they have an introspective moment or press on? I’ll take “press on” for a billion dollars, Alex.

David Roger Wells
August 21, 2021 7:30 am

Cut meat consumption by 40%. Data tells the truth and numbers do not lie. Total methane emissions from all sources including wetlands and fossil fuels are about 614,000,000 tons/year. Residual atmospheric methane is 0.00018%. 1.4 billion cows emit 86 million tons of methane annually which is 14% of total emissions. Therefore 14% of – residual CH4 – 0.00018% is 0.0000238% that is 2.38 trillionths of atmospheric CH4. Atmospheric methane needs to be at least 100 times more prolific to have even the slightest influence on climate. Insofar as UK cows are concerned which are 0.69% of the global total at 0.0000000229908% of 0.00018%. Methane The Irrelevant GHG. Methane The Irrelevant GHG. (CH4) has narrow absorption bands at 3.3 microns and 7.5 microns (the red lines). CH4 is 20 times more effective an absorber than CO2 – in those bands. However, CH4 is only 0.00018% (1.8 parts per billion) of the atmosphere. Moreover, both of its bands occur at wavelengths where H2O is already absorbing substantially. Hence, any radiation that CH4 might absorb has already been absorbed by H2O. The ratio of the percentages of water to methane is such that the effects of CH4 are completely masked by H2O. The amount of CH4 must increase 100-fold to make it comparable to H2O. Because of that, methane is irrelevant as a greenhouse gas. The high per-molecule absorption cross section of CH4 makes no difference at all in our real atmosphere. It cannot contribute to atmospheric warming or climate change. The UN and the climate cult use ground up emissions without mentioning what happens to Co2 and CH4 after emission.

Wade
Reply to  David Roger Wells
August 21, 2021 9:01 am

Data is irrelevant to the leftist religion. The only thing that is relevant is that wealth is concentrated into the hands of a select group of elites — specifically those that keep the leftist politicians living the high life — and that the people that they despise are keep poor and under strict control of the leftist politicians and select elites.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  David Roger Wells
August 21, 2021 2:34 pm

Cows, like all animals, are carbon neutral, almost by definition. All animals are, or the Carbon Cycle wouldn’t work!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 21, 2021 7:42 pm

Don’t mess with our cows!

They ought to pay farmers to raise *more* cows.

gregole
Reply to  David Roger Wells
August 21, 2021 7:28 pm
August 21, 2021 7:32 am

Maybe the British are finally getting the message that government action taken through the belief in scientific certainty is a nonsense, as it is an easily corrupted reductive process that makes slaves of all but privileged top echelon groups.

griff
Reply to  tom0mason
August 21, 2021 8:52 am

No.

That’s a peculiar US Republican viewpoint.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 9:25 am

So you are saying that only US Republicans are correct.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
August 21, 2021 10:17 am

and libertarians…

Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 11:01 am

No, its a fairly normal viewpoint of the silent majority of the uk voters

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 11:54 am

Griff,
Have you ever read the replies to your comments on so called climate change in the Science section of the UK Daily Mail? Unless there’s another Griff you get an awful lot of “peculiar US Republican viewpoint” replies.

DaveS
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 12:30 pm

Wrong again.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 1:44 pm

Handing out compliments today, Griffipoo?

MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 3:25 pm

It’s a popular Republican viewpoint.
It also happens to be the truth.

niceguy
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 5:27 pm

Saying something is a “peculiar US Republican viewpoint” is a peculiar European MSM viewpoint.

In the French blogosphere (or news websites comments sections), there is support for that MSM viewpoint but not that much, and there is huge support of US Republican-like views, UNLIKE what you see in polls.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  griff
August 22, 2021 12:07 am

Oh don’t worry Griffy baby, they will always need gullible naive fools like you to whip us plebs into submission, to heard us into large enclosures, next to incineration facilities to generate electricity to keep the elites in the comfort & style to which they are accustomed!!! ;-)) You’re a fool, & a potentially very dangerous one at that!!!

Jay
Reply to  griff
August 22, 2021 5:57 am

Bull shit. It’s a Liberterian view. Which you would get, if you descended from your throne and talked to actual Republicans.

Plenty of Republicans over here in the “do what you are told” camp, regardless of what the science actually says. The Republicans I have spoken to in this group are usually “too busy” (WORKING) to read actual science. Unlike you who are just too lazy.

Unless you get paid to Troll?

griff
August 21, 2021 7:35 am

The Express? Green? The paper that thinks the late D of E killed Diana? The 50 anti EU a day article Express?

fretslider
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 7:54 am

Yes

Trinity Mirror buys Daily Express group for £127m”

Do your homework for a change.

Nanny will be cross if you don’t.

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MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 8:37 am

How does believing in conspiracy theories prevent one from being Green?
What Green isn’t convinced that “Exxon knew”?

griff
Reply to  MarkW
August 21, 2021 8:52 am

I’m saying that if you think the Express is somehow green, you also believe in conspiracy theories

griff
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 8:57 am

And if you think it is now ‘leftist’ you believe in fairies

fretslider
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 9:15 am

So Reach (formerly Trinity Mirror) is right wing?

Evidence please…

Rory Forbes
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 1:57 pm

Faeries are absolutely real, they even have their own flag.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 3:28 pm

That communists consider socialists to be right wing, is hardly new or surprising.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  griff
August 22, 2021 12:11 am

When I was a young man expressing absolute truths about how awful western societies were, I was told I was very green in my views, & back then it meant that I was very gullible & naive, to me that description was & still is IMHO true to date!!! Green = gullible & naive!!!

MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 3:27 pm

The problem is griff, you don’t think. As history has shown, nothing you believe to be true, has ever turned out to be true.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  griff
August 21, 2021 9:26 am

The Duke of Earl killed Diana? Better tell Gene Chandler.

Jim Whelan
August 21, 2021 8:10 am

And 90% of those who went along with the green ideas in the poll would never actually do the “green thing”. They just said what they did so as not to seem “uncaring”.

Paul Johnson
August 21, 2021 8:15 am

in order to give their grandchildren a better chance at climate survival”

Seriously?

MarkW
Reply to  Paul Johnson
August 21, 2021 8:38 am

If that’s how the question was worded, then the reality is they have even less support than this “survey” indicates.

Mark Kaiser
August 21, 2021 8:21 am

A staggering 83% of respondents say they wouldn’t be happy to invest £10,000 into greener energy over the next 20 years, in order to give their grandchildren a better chance at climate survival.

Here’s the link to the 6 questions asked. You have to scroll down about halfway.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1478179/green-Britain-green-energy-IPCC-climate-change-report-poll-electric-cars?utm_source=daily_express_newsletter&utm_campaign=welcome_express_green_britain&utm_medium=email&pure360.trackingid=

Here’s the actual question (underlining is mine):
Are you happy to invest £10,000 into greener energy over the next 20 years, in order to give your grandchildren a better chance at climate survival?
I would have utterly failed my Survey Research class if I had submitted this kind of leading question garbage. They don’t even try and hide it.

Here’s my second favorite

Would you buy solar panels which save you money in the long term?

And somebody got paid for this!

H.R.
Reply to  Mark Kaiser
August 21, 2021 10:07 am

“If you go green, will that help you stop beating your wife?”

Eugene S Conlin
Reply to  H.R.
August 23, 2021 9:40 am

,,, have you stopped beating your wife? Answer yes or no! 😉

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It doesn't add up...
August 21, 2021 8:32 am

At least they did ask about spending. A bit more real world than simply asking about supporting the party propaganda that climate change is real, bad.

IIRC there was a survey published by Pew Research a few months ago that demonstrated only about 1% of Americans were prepared to pay larger sums towards (failing to) change the climate, and around 50% would not pay anything. Against that 83% not being prepared to spend £10,000 looks like being on the low side.

tygrus
August 21, 2021 8:58 am

This may just be the baseline to compare future surveys with. So after pumping out climate alarmist content they can see how much it “re-educates” the readers. Well, the fewer readers it will have remaining.

MarkW2
August 21, 2021 9:06 am

Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. Although the Daily Express is very much to the right it represents a typical UK household. The only people in the UK who believe man-made global warming is a threat are Guardian readers, the elitist Liberal left and socialist workers. So the numbers in the poll sound about right.

I’d give the UK Government less than 5% chance of achieving net zero for the very simple reason that Joe Public will not be prepared to pay the eyewatering sums required to do so, especially when combined with the changes in lifestyle that will also be required.

Politicians have made stupid promises without looking at the real costs of net zero and are only just starting to realise the political suicide it represents.

griff
Reply to  MarkW2
August 22, 2021 6:42 am

Although the Daily Express is very much to the right

and average age of readership 69.

Peta of Newark
August 21, 2021 11:39 am

My ‘on the ground’ survey – currently ongoing at a little music festy, near Steveange
Mindless electronic dance. Here‘s one of the DJs
(There was, =English Summer, a mini cloudburst on Thurs nite. Me and my stuff got wetter than I thought so been home to freshen up going back now)

One of our regular, highly regarded, contributors will know what I’m on about here.

The Kids, old and young, that attend those events are a particular breed and for me certainly, inspire hope.
Because they are:

  • Mostly youngsters but very accepting, in fact ‘happy to see’ older folks at these events
  • They have self confidence that comes without drug use
  • They are not glued to smartphones as ‘normal’ youngsters always are (The only time you do see a phone is when they’re taking a selfie to record the event)
  • There is no Wifi, no computers, iPads etc, TVs, newspapers
  • There are 2 bars at this event and never a queue to be served nor is the ground littered with empties.
  • They don’t smoke or do NOx and once you’ve seen Cocaine in action, you realise there’s none of that either. Rules out MDMA also.
  • They are, nearly every last one of them, tall and slim. There are no Body Mass Indices above 26 or 27

So, what gives. How is it possible for these people to be so obviously happy and capable of enjoying themselves without drugs. How on Earth do they strike up fascinating, interesting conversations with Perfect Strangers.
How do they survive without putting everybody else is a villain and always assuming ‘they’re up to something’?
How does that little mini-society spring up from nowhere and what powers it?

There are 5 food stalls/outlets on site. (This in not One Huuuuge Festy)
Each outlet has just one speciality:

  1. Deep-fried chunky chicken
  2. Grilled hunks of beef wrapped in bread, doused with salt and optional fried onion
  3. Whole Food Soul Food Vegetarian,
  4. 6oz burger bar specialising in doubling up with added cheese, extra cheese and extra extra bacon
  5. A Great British Sausage bar

They all seem equally busy through the day, closing at midnight except the vegetarian which closes at 10

Put all that lot together – do you get Climate Change Concern.
Do you even visualise these people coming up with Climate Change, Saturated Fat and or Socialism?

PS I saw one electric car in the car-park – a white Tesla, with a number plate that would have cost probably half of what the car itself cost

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jorgekafkazar
August 21, 2021 1:52 pm

“I don’t understand why they needed a poll to tell them that.”

They live in “the bubble,” where they only read each others’ toxic notions and breathe each others’ toxic effluent.

Jay
August 21, 2021 2:58 pm

What a loaded question that was in the Poll.

“A staggering 83% of respondents say they wouldn’t be happy to invest £10,000 into greener energy over the next 20 years, in order to give their grandchildren a better chance at climate survival.”

Might as well just respond to that with “So you don’t want your kids to have a future?” lol. Oh for shame Daily Express. How the once mighty have fallen.

Vincent Causey
August 22, 2021 12:21 am

I like the way they worded the question – “…in order to give grandchildren a better chance of climate survival.” Could a question be any more loaded than that? And they still didn’t persuade.

Voltron
August 22, 2021 2:31 pm

When you see descriptors like “staggering”, it’s the opinion of the editor coming through

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