Guardian Demands a 100x Increase in British Climate Investment

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The Guardian is distressed the UN code red climate emergency declaration has disappeared from the front pages of most news outlets.

It’s now or never: Scientists warn time of reckoning has come for the planet

Robin McKie
Sun 15 Aug 2021 17.00 AEST

The IPCC is unequivocal: we must take urgent action to curb global heating and prevent catastrophe. Will our policymakers and the Cop26 conference be up to the task?

Heatwaves and the heavy rains that cause flooding have become more intense and more frequent since the 1950s in most parts of the world, and climate change is now affecting all inhabited regions of the planet. Drought is increasing in many places and it is more than 66% likely that numbers of major hurricanes and typhoons have risen since the 1970s. “If there was still a need for a proof that climate changes is caused by human activities, then this is the report that provides it,” said Prof Corinne Le Quéré of the University of East Anglia.

Indeed, by the end of the century they could become threatening to civilisation if emissions are allowed to continue at their present rate. “That might seem like a long way away but there are millions of children already born who should be alive well into the 22nd century,” added Prof Jonathan Bamber of Bristol University, another report author.

That will not be an easy task, however. As Nick Starkey, director of policy at the Royal Academy of Engineering, pointed out last week. “The UK is not on track to meet existing carbon targets and our goal of 78% emissions reduction by 2035 will not be reached without deep energy efficiency measures,” he said.

The climate story was all over the front pages on Tuesday but by Friday, three days later, it was hardly mentioned,” added Prof Martin Siegert of Imperial College, London. “Yet this is the most important thing that humanity needs to do in the next 30 years. It is going to change our lives, it is going to change the way we regard ourselves on the planet. And if we don’t, we are going to stoke up huge problems for our children. But after three days we seemed to be forgotten despite the fact this is something that needs decades of consistent, persistent work.”

Siegert added that it had been estimated that investment levels equivalent to 1% of GDP are needed to ensure the country’s transition to net-zero status. “However, we are currently spending about 0.01%… a 100th of that estimated price tag. And this is also well below what the government is spending on things that will actually add to our emissions, such as airport expansion plans and the tens of billions it has pledged on new road schemes, which will only make it easier to drive around and burn more fossil fuel.”

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Stories like this give me hope, climate activists flailing about, all but admitting the challenge they have set themselves is unattainable.

Most people perceive Britain as solidly onboard the climate train – even their Conservatives talk like deep greens. But as Prof Martin Siegert pointed out, the reality is the British government is spending a fortune on road networks and airport expansions, which does not exactly match up with all their climate rhetoric.

If you ask people in Britain, most people immediately agree there is a need to do something. But doing something almost always seems to be someone elses job – hardly anybody I met in Britain seems to think it is their personal responsibility to address the alleged climate crisis, or that there is any obligation to endure significant personal hardship to save the planet, like using more pubic transport or reducing use of home heating in winter.

And why would anyone think any differently? After all, part of the reason Britons support renewables, is the British have repeatedly been told that switching to renewables will reduce energy bills and save money.

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Tom Halla
August 15, 2021 6:19 pm

The Grauniad: We need much more money to deal with the wolves we have been warning you of that have yet to appear.But trust us anyway!

Reply to  Tom Halla
August 16, 2021 8:03 am

They need money to dress people up in wolf costumes so they can prove there really are wolves…

Tom Halla
Reply to  TonyG
August 16, 2021 8:18 am

Or they will see a Pomeranian and insist it is really a wolf.

John the Econ
August 15, 2021 6:29 pm

In modern Progressivism, it’s always up to someone else to make the real sacrifices and to pay for it. I won’t be impressed until I see these advocates give up their 20th century lifestyles instead of just demanding that lots of other people’s money be spent.

Reply to  John the Econ
August 15, 2021 7:58 pm

After all, part of the reason Britons support renewables, is the British have repeatedly been told that switching to renewables will reduce energy bills and save money.

This is par for the course. People are all for saving the world from runaway global warming as long as it can be done with OPM. People are willing to spend almost none of their own money to save the world.

M Courtney
Reply to  commieBob
August 15, 2021 11:59 pm

That’s not the point at all.
People have been told that going green saves money. Not that it just saves them money. They have been told that renewables are cheaper and that using them saves resources.

That may sound ridiculous if you know anything about energy generation but most people don’t.
They just know that coal costs money and the wind blows free so it sounds plausible. And they are repeatedly told it is so.

This is not a love of the environment. It’s just misinformed common sense.

Vincent Causey
Reply to  M Courtney
August 16, 2021 12:22 am

It hinges on a single easily debunked myth – that once all the wind and solar farms have been built and pay for themselves, renewable power will become cheap or maybe “too cheap to meter”. Not one in 100 realises they all have to be rebuilt after a mere 20 years, repeating the whole cycle again.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Vincent Causey
August 16, 2021 4:08 am

They are not being told that unreliable renewables are subsidised to the tune of £10bn a year and that grid management costs have soared from £200m a year to £2bn a year, all of which is paid for out of taxes or from electricity bills.

Reply to  Gerry, England
August 17, 2021 1:44 pm

And that renewables are not and never have been viable without those subsidies.

Or that democrats have written into legislation the ability of renewables to be fast tracked over local government objections.

Komerade Cube
Reply to  Vincent Causey
August 16, 2021 4:57 am

Thats only part of the problem. You still need backup capacity to address service gaps and grid instability inherent in wind and solar. It can’t be cheaper when you have to buy two power generation systems because one of the two is intermittent.

Reply to  Vincent Causey
August 16, 2021 5:53 am

Even worse would be the observation that renewables don’t provide sufficient energy to rebuild themselves. So, you need fossil fuels just to build more renewables.

Reply to  M Courtney
August 16, 2021 3:11 am

100% correct. I listened to a phone-on on a major radio station recently about the large energy bill rises, which are about to hit the UK. People were genuinely surprised that energy bills would be going up given the amount of “free” wind power now available. One person even expected their bills to go down “because a wind farm has just been built very close to us”.

The UK public has been sold the “green revolution” on the basis of cheap energy from “free” sources of wind and solar; and they’re still being told that the price of heat pumps will come down as volumes increase. The additional costs of changing their heating systems given that traditional radiators won’t emit enough heat remain hidden.

The facts will hit Joe Public very hard in the next few years as the true costs of net-zero are understood. From massively increased heating bills to very expensive installations and costly EVs with too few charging points and a national electricity grid already creaking at the seams.

UK politicians of all parties are going to have a very rough ride and rightly so. People in the UK will demand to know why they’re being hit so hard given the very tiny contributions to global emissions that actually come from this country.

michael hart
Reply to  MarkW2
August 16, 2021 11:19 am

I can’t disagree. What disturbs me even more is that the major political parties all appear to be equally crazy. When the real cause of sharply rising energy prices, and hence falling living standards, is disguised from the general populace, they don’t properly get to see what they should be voting against.

That is how the grand scheme has got just as far as it has. I don’t see any quick remedy until, maybe, our economic productivity has fallen so far behind other Nations (the biggest of them being aggressively unfriendly), that civil disorder and chaos become the norm. The depressive part of me doesn’t want to live to see it because I probably won’t live long enough to see the resolution either.

John the Econ
Reply to  MarkW2
August 17, 2021 4:32 pm

Another failure of public education which doesn’t teach kids where their historically easy standard of living really comes from.

What people don’t understand is that they are not buying energy. After all, it all comes from free from the sun. (Even oil and gas, which is just “solar energy” stored from millions of years ago) What people are really paying for is the harvesting and delivery of energy, be it from oil & gas or solar panels and windmills. And that infrastructure does not come cheaply.

August 15, 2021 6:32 pm

Why doesn’t The Guardian just sell all its assets and direct the proceeds as British climate investments? Sounds simple enough to me.

Reply to  littlepeaks
August 15, 2021 11:56 pm


Perhaps because the readership of the Grauniad is down 75% in the last few years and I doubt they’d get much if they tried to flog it.

Only BBC job adverts and Government advertising (paid for by taxpayers, obviously) keeps them going.

Gerry, England
August 16, 2021 4:04 am

It is money from Bill Gates that keeps them going now either directly or from the shady Bill & Melissa Foundation that funds lots of the media.

M Courtney
Reply to  littlepeaks
August 16, 2021 12:00 am

The Guardian campaigns on Green issues so it is already a British climate investment.

John in NZ
August 15, 2021 6:38 pm

0.01% is one ten thousandth so they are even further behind than they thought.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  John in NZ
August 15, 2021 7:18 pm

They mean 0.01% of GDP, which is 1/100th of the desired (by them) 1% of GDP.

Reply to  John in NZ
August 16, 2021 2:49 am

The figure is incorrect; far too low. It’s either fantasy, a lie, or ocean-trench depth ignorance. A few days ago I looked at the subsidies for a single one of the UK’s offshore wind farms, Dudgeon. The latest accounts show annual subsidies of £242M, to the nearest mill. The UK’s GDP is about £2T, which makes the Dudgeon subsidies worth 0.01% of GDP ON ITS OWN, unless I typed in the wrong number of zeros.

Clay Sanborn
August 15, 2021 6:45 pm

I demand a 500% increase in our CO2 output. So there. But if everyone’s demands were met, even the beggars would ride.

CD in Wisconsin
August 15, 2021 6:54 pm

“It’s now or never..”

Okay, never.

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
August 15, 2021 7:19 pm

That was easy!

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Observer
August 15, 2021 7:28 pm

It’s the option I choose sometimes.

Stephen Philbrick
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
August 16, 2021 7:12 am

I like it when they provide choices, especially when one of the options makes sense. Put me down for “never”.

August 15, 2021 6:59 pm

Obviously the UK needs 100x more REGO certificates to change the climate-
Renewable electricity deals investigated by UK government (
Only innovative Green policies can save us all from the dooming.

michael hart
Reply to  observa
August 16, 2021 12:01 pm

I think the simplest first step lies with the modelling.

Just like the Grand Old Duke of York,
He had ten thousand climate modelling men,
They modelled us up to the top of the hill,
And they can jolly well model us back down again.

You get what what you pay for in climate modelling, and they have only ever been payed to model it upwards.
Upon request, I can cite another great instance in scientific computer modeling where it was clear what the desired answer was for the funding, and so that is what they got.

Mark Kaiser
August 15, 2021 7:04 pm

we are currently spending about 0.01%

2020 UK GDP is $2.7 trillion.

So 1% of GDP would be $27 billion. And 1% of 1% (.01) is $270 million.

That’s all the govt. is spending? Sounds fishy to me when you consider all the subsidies. The article provides no data source. Surprise.

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Joao Martins
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 16, 2021 2:38 am

You are right. In Europe at least, everything “climate” is a disguised new tax, or a disguised increment of an old tax.

Explaining: the “climate”, the “environment”, etc., the supposed beneficiaries of that income, don’t receive anything: all goes to enlarge the State and its bureaucracy.

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August 15, 2021 7:05 pm

Disappeared from the front pages, eh ? Just shows that we might have underestimated the scepticism of most news outlets 😉

Reply to  Streetcred
August 15, 2021 9:21 pm
August 15, 2021 7:08 pm

When the British People are finally told the real cost of these futile fantasy Green ‘Climate Change’ boondoggles and the fact that whatever they do will be wiped out by China and India in 5 minutes, the fury will be of truly monumental proportions.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
August 15, 2021 8:38 pm

Nope … never happen. There will be no fury from the British people. Since the end of WW II they have a tradition of tucking their tails between their, pulling a pillow over their heads and sucking their thumbs until the danger passes.

Bryan A
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 11:05 pm

Sounds a lot like the French during WWII

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Bryan A
August 15, 2021 11:41 pm

Yeah … you’re right, it does. After all they’ve been in the European Union for decades, with the French stepping on their necks, backed by the Germans, what do you expect?

For some reason I forgot “legs”.

Julian Flood
Reply to  Bryan A
August 16, 2021 1:48 am

Sounds like California.


Dennis G Sandberg
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
August 15, 2021 9:43 pm

Nice thought, I wish, I chance in a million.

August 15, 2021 7:15 pm

If the climate capers cabal are wondering why their ‘product’ is not selling, maybe they should get back to basic principles of marketing, as espoused by advertising guru David Ogilvy –
1. Give the facts
2. Be truthful
3. Be helpful
4. Have a Big Idea
5. Don’t be boring
6. Understand your customer
7. Stay true to your brand

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Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Mr.
August 15, 2021 7:20 pm

Well, they got #7. The rest, not so much.

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 15, 2021 7:32 pm

Not really –
private jets, big yachts, ocean-front mansions, exotic conference venues, book promo tours, “just livin’ the good life . . .”

M Courtney
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 16, 2021 12:05 am

I would say they have 4, 5 and 6.

4: It’s the End of the World – We can Save It!
5: Look, fires, droughts, crying children. Cute animals. These are good eye-catching images to put besides other advertisements.
6: News Media needs stuff to sell. Here is stuff to sell.

It makes sense that they would be good at marketing as that’s the main aim of campaigning charities.

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high treason
August 15, 2021 8:21 pm

Demand, Demand. Sounds like a 2 year old having a temper tantrum. We all know what happens when parents give in to temper tantrums, especially when the demands are outrageous. As it is, the shrill obedience to propaganda that the Guardian consistently adheres to shows clearly how they are totally brainwashed by their own propaganda.
ANY politician that bows down to (undebated) demands is clearly not leadership material. Boris should just polish up his accent and tell them to bugger off.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  high treason
August 15, 2021 9:17 pm

With these people, giving in to their demands is like paying off a blackmailer. They’ll just come back for even greater amounts later.

high treason
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 15, 2021 10:40 pm

Exactly. We are seeing the same thing in Australia with “the virus.” Idiots are just doing as they are told- swallowing every scrap of B S, like a dung beetle.
Every day sees further restrictions on our freedom. All based on pure fallacy.
People being coerced in to submitting to the untested, experimental gene alteration that masquerades as a vaccine to escape legal liability, think they will get their confiscated freedoms returned, only to find the answer will be NO.
Like a gambling addict, they will throw good money after bad. In this case, it is throwing out any semblance of freedom. The worst thing is that idiots vote.

August 15, 2021 8:59 pm

Leftists sure do “demand” a lot of things. Seems that in a democracy those things are decided by voting. Fascists demand stuff.

Julian Flood
August 15, 2021 9:30 pm

The Future’s Bright, The Future’s Fudge!
The UK is heading for a very cold and impoverished future until someone gets a grip. The virtue signalling pigeons are coming home to roost and COP26 is going to make that plain – posing as global leaders when India and China are ignoring all CO2 targets won’t wash with the public much longer.
Unless the UK’s Climate Change Committee* can be emasculated we are well and truly Gummered. Net Zero as advocated by that committee, (which has a member of the Nudge Unit on board, I wonder why) would be catastrophic, but the hysteria engendered by the climate zealots who seem to dominate the UK’s MSM makes it politically impossible to abandon it. There is only one thing for politicians to do.
Announce that the current Net Zero pathway is unaffordable but that the looming climate armageddon is so dangerous that we have to sup with the devil that is natural gas. Extend the gas grid to ensure oil, solid fuel and bottle gas space heating are priced out of the market. Use methane for lorries, trains, cars and buses, power stations, celebrating this low CO2 fuel as halfway to the hydrogen economy. (Natural gas is one carbon and two hydrogen atoms so when you burn it a lot of the energy comes from the hydrogen, it’s low carbon, Minister.)
To run UK on methane we need more but it’s available for the fracking. Set the Nudge Unit** onto the anti-fracking nimbys.
The halfway to hydrogen economy can hold the fort until the SMRs come on stream in 2035/40, and then, honest injun, cross our heart and hope to die, we can phase out gas and reach Net Zero. Unless it turns out that the AGW panic is unnecessary when we will just have to live in a methane-powered world, clean, warm, cheap for the next century.
More fudge, Minister?

*A strange collection of zealots and troughers clustered around Lord Deben aka Selwyn Gummer, a man whose commitment to the narrative has led to him to take many a ticket on the climate change bandwagon. They give advice to HMG. N0-one knows why: the same effect could be achieved more cheaply by replacing them with a looped recording saying ‘Repent! We’re doomed! CO2 evil, wind turbines good!’ The calculations behind their ludicrously low estimate for the cost to UK of Net Zero is hidden by their lawyers – shades of Mannian science.

** Think Goebbels with an Oxbridge education.

Dennis G Sandberg
Reply to  Julian Flood
August 15, 2021 10:09 pm

you got it right, to bad most people aren’t as smart: “The halfway to hydrogen economy can hold the fort until the SMRs come on stream in 2035/40, and then, honest injun, cross our heart and hope to die, we can phase out gas and reach Net Zero. Unless it turns out that the AGW panic is unnecessary when we will just have to live in a methane-powered world, clean, warm, cheap for the next century”

Reply to  Julian Flood
August 15, 2021 11:31 pm

Natural gas – methane is 1carbon to 4 hydrogen atoms.

M Courtney
Reply to  Beagle
August 16, 2021 12:08 am

That is true. But I doubt any Cabinet Minster or civil servant would know that,

Julian Flood
Reply to  Beagle
August 16, 2021 1:52 am

Oops. Thank you beagle. Still, if I’d said molecule I’d have confused the minister…

(In my defence I’d plead it was very early in the morning)
Not _the_ beagle?

Reply to  Julian Flood
August 16, 2021 12:17 am

Julian Flood

You’ve got the general idea but I should point out that natural gas (essentially Methane) is CH4, one carbon atom and four, not two Hydrogen atoms.

Also, whilst there has been talk about SMRs, I am not aware of any active plan to build any (other perhaps to sell overseas.

The only nuclear plant under construction is Hinckley C, a French/ Chinese design which seems to have been chosen by Ed Davey (or Potato Ed), when Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change, because it was and is the most likely not to work, the most expensive and the most exposed to the activities of the Chinese Communist Party.

Julian Flood
August 16, 2021 1:53 am


Yes. I know that. Honest.


Reply to  Julian Flood
August 17, 2021 3:44 pm

The halfway to hydrogen economy can hold the fort”

Ain’t going to happen.
Hydrogen containment systems make lithium look safe. Nor are hydrogen generating systems terribly efficient.

CH₄, i.e. methane, is as close as you can get for the foreseeable future.

August 15, 2021 11:22 pm

Why does the Graun. not crawl away and die?

August 15, 2021 11:26 pm

hardly anybody I met in Britain seems to think it is their personal responsibility to address the alleged climate crisis

I’m a Brit. If there was a climate crisis, I would address it

M Courtney
Reply to  Redge
August 16, 2021 12:09 am

I’m a Brit.  I read AR6 SPM. That seems to be addressing the issue more than most.
And having read it, that seems to be sufficient for now,

Reply to  M Courtney
August 16, 2021 6:08 am

If you burned a hard copy of AR6 SPM to get a little extra warmth, I’d say it was very useful report, M Courtney.

August 16, 2021 12:05 am

 It’s not just your car, it’s your freedom™ [they want to take away].

August 16, 2021 1:41 am

It doesn’t matter any more what the Guardian says (or Watts) – action on climate change and renewables roll out and coal cancellation is permanently baked in to governments at the national and local level, worldwide – except for the enigma which is China…

And the only issue left in doubt is what China does or what the world chooses to make it do.

Richard Page
Reply to  griff
August 16, 2021 2:12 am

What action? You failed to specify any action so please explain the action that is being taken on climate change.

Richard Page
Reply to  Richard Page
August 16, 2021 9:00 am

I’m still waiting Griffy – what action has been taken?

Richard Page
Reply to  Richard Page
August 17, 2021 2:49 am

And answer came their none. As I thought – not much action, just a lot of blather and empty promises. Well, I gave Griffy his chance and he blew it.

Reply to  griff
August 16, 2021 2:33 am

You forgot India, Russia, Brazil, all of south east Asia, Africa, Middle East, and even Germany. As for what the world can do about China, the answer is zilch, nada, nothing, etc.

Reply to  griff
August 16, 2021 5:01 pm

Come on griffter….the UK should be the world experiment for this man made CO2 stuff…show the world how to do it. HAHAHAHA.

Joao Martins
August 16, 2021 2:32 am

I also would like to demand a 100x increase of the little pension that I got after 40 years working…

On a second thought: asking 100x is too greedy; it would be enough if it doubled or trebled.

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Reply to  Joao Martins
August 17, 2021 4:02 pm

Ask for 100X.
After the government gets through with it, you’ll be lucky to stay even. Otherwise and I’d join you!

August 16, 2021 4:11 am

Since the 1950’s, the world has only warmed up by about 0.5C degrees.
Only a total loon would believe that such a small amount of warming would be sufficient to cause all the chaos these guys preach.
On the other hand, there is no evidence that Medieval, Roman, Minoan or Egyptian warm periods caused such devastating weather. Much less the Holocene optimum which was as much as 3 to 5C warmer than today.

Reply to  MarkW
August 16, 2021 7:05 am

There’s no evidence that any of those saw 48.8 C in Sicily or 45C in Greece… (I know we don’t have more than a few hundred years of temp records, but the evidence for searing heatwaves and fires just isn’t there)

Richard Page
Reply to  griff
August 16, 2021 9:11 am

You complete and utter B.S. artist – what you actually mean is that you can’t be arsed to do any research on the subject, therefore the evidence isn’t there. A little bit of digging would show you that Greece was more heavily forested in the past and wildfires were common – several ancient writers comment on them and the archaeological evidence for clearance of the forests by people settling in Greece in ancient times is substantial. Go and get your delusional behaviour sorted.

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Bruce Cobb
August 16, 2021 4:19 am

…after three days we seemed to be forgotten…

“Wa-wa-whaaaaaaa! Pay attention to us! We’re important, vital even, to the planet! And here you are, ignoring us! Whaaaaaaaaaaaa!”

August 16, 2021 6:39 am

“….investment levels equivalent to 1% of GDP….” Hmmm….that would only pay for the advertising budget….maybe this is the root of the problem…these people erroneously believe “net zero” can be achieved at negligible economic cost.

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Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 17, 2021 4:11 pm

They believed that regular people would accept their 1% of GDP claim when it was obvious that darn few alarmists actually understand mathematics, and that those are obviously thoroughly corrupt.

Given the constant “one Earth”, “discarded plastic in oceans”, “Do our part” commercials and fake nature specials, they already far overspent that 1%.

Even the box office failure, tv special failure, fraudulent movie “day after tomorrow” has been playing regular of certain biased fake science channels.

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Rod Evans
August 16, 2021 6:49 am

The Groaniad has become a joke even among its once loyal readership. They are the ultimate crier of wolf and having taken on the role of world wide disseminator of climate fear mongering, they feel upset that virtually no one pays any attention to what they or the BBBC says about “the climate crisis”.

Reply to  Rod Evans
August 17, 2021 1:50 am

It is a minority opinion, for sure.

Climate skeptics should just stop taking any notice of it, you’ll be way happier.

August 16, 2021 10:13 am

Well thankfully Britain doesn’t make policy decisions based on tabloid rantings right? RIGHT?!?!

Reply to  Michael
August 17, 2021 1:50 am

A lot of UK policy announcements do seem to be based on what is trending in the tabloids, or ‘Mumsnet’. Cannabis based medicines for sick kids became a govt priority after tabloid headlines, for example.

(Perhaps rightly, but all sorts of stuff produces a sudden govt announcement)

Richard Page
Reply to  griff
August 17, 2021 2:53 am

It’s kneejerk reactions. It isn’t a new thing but it has become more common as career politicians have become more interested in holding on to their jobs than in actually doing their jobs – ie serving their voters. The climate scam is a perfect example of a kneejerk reaction in action.

michael hart
August 16, 2021 10:54 am

Their language only ever seems to get more hysterical, with the BBC fully on board.
Even if the US, UK etc acceded to their wildest demands, do they seriously believe that China, India, etc will take a blind bit of notice?

The days are not far off when security agencies get to do MRI-type scans on people’s brains as they are asked questions to determine just how mentally compromised they are. These new-improved lie-detector tests (and much more besides) might reveal some interesting insights. Goodness, how these people would make fascinating case studies.

trevor collins
Reply to  michael hart
August 16, 2021 4:45 pm

greetings from New Zealand,many years ago in my days in the UK, we used to have’ green shield stamps”, could worth a fortune now??.any takers??? regards, from Trevor.

Ulric Lyons
August 17, 2021 3:18 am

Prof Corinne Le Quéré thinks that climate change makes heatwaves more frequent. She needs a lesson on how heatwaves cause climate change.

michael hart
August 17, 2021 12:21 pm

“[..] this is the most important thing that humanity needs to do in the next 30 years. It is going to change our lives, it is going to change the way we regard ourselves on the planet [ added Prof Martin Siegert of Imperial College, London.]”

Yes, but of course, Professor.
People have been screeching that at us for at least thirty years, a generation ago now.

Slight detour:
It reminds me of the time I went to see Public Image Ltd play live at a University gig.
John Lydon, formerly known as Johnny Rotten of The Sex Pistols, stood at the front of the stage for nearly a minute while the front five rows spat at him. Copiously. It was quite an impressive sideways view from a safe seat up in the galleries.
When they had run out of phlegm he carefully pronounced that “Your daddies used to spit at me.”

When will the like of Professors Siegert, Bambert and Corinne Le Quéré acknowledge that their gig is out of date?
Probably only when they stop getting paid for spitting out the same song every day.

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