The Big Heat Post Mortem and the Next Few Days

Reposted from The Cliff Mass Weather Blog

 It’s over.   

Throughout the region, all-time temperature records have been broken, if not smashed.   Just to name a few:

  • SeaTac hit 108F, beating the previous record of 103F.
  • Olympia reached 109F, exceeding the previous record of 105F
  • Quillayute, on the WA coast, zoomed to 110F, absolutely smashing the previous record of 99F
  • Portland hit 116F, incinerating the previous record of 107F.
  • In eastern Washington, Dallesport tied the all-time state record of 118F
  • East of I5, many locations in western Washington exceeded 110F yesterday.

Some High Temperatures Over the State, Click to Expand

Believe it or not.

Seattle now has a higher record maximum temperature than Miami, Atlanta, Washington DC,  or Chicago.  Portland’s record high exceeded that of Houston, Austin, or San Diego.  

Over 50 observing sites in western Washington surged above 110F

You want record high temperatures?  Come to the Northwest!  

But we had not only had extreme heat….far beyond that observed over the past century… but also record-breaking cooling as a thin layer of marine air surged in last night.

  • Portland cooled by 52F (116 to 64) and Salem by 56F (117 to 61) in a matter of hours.
  • Seattle cooled by an impressive 46F!
  • Quillayute by 48F.

The visible satellite imagery this morning showed that marine clouds not only covered the coast but pushed inland around the Olympics.

The cooling west of the Cascades will be a two-step affair.  Last night’s intrusion of cool, marine air was quite shallow.  The figure below shows temperature (red lines are temperature in C, wind barbs in black) above SeaTac Airport during the past day.  No cooling above 5000 ft.  But lots of cooling and a switch to southerly flow below 2500 ft.

What happens in this situation is that where there is sun at the surface, the air starts to mix, with the mixing getting deeper over time.  Eventually, we mix down the warm air above and temperatures surge.  You will notice that today—- sometime after 10 AM temperatures will warm rapidly into the upper 80s.  Sorry.

But the good news is that the marine air will push in again tonight as the thermal trough decidedly moves into eastern Washington…resulting in an additional temperature step down on Wednesday.  The ensemble forecasts for Seattle show this clearly (see below).  Good sleeping weather ahead!

Environmental Impacts of the Heat Wave

Air quality really took a hit, with increasing amounts of particles and ozone in the atmosphere, something that was evident by the increasing haze I am sure you observed.  Here in Seattle, small particles increased to moderate levels (42 micrograms per cubic meter) before plummeting last night.  (Figure below from Puget Sound Clean Air Agency)

Ozone is another issue and is actually worst not in the cities, but downwind in vegetated areas, such as the foothills of the Cascades.  Look at the ozone in Enumclaw, southeast of Seattle.  Progressively increased during the last week before dropping rapidly last night.

And there is the plant damage.  Yesterday’s searing heat fried many plants, including native species, with leaves turning brown and discolored.  How many of you notice wilted and damaged vegetation?  The soil was not dry….it was the sheer heat that damaged the plants.

We Can Greatly Reduce Wildfire Risk

There is a lot of concern about regional wildfires.  My next blog will talk about how we can radically reduce the risk if our state leaders would act energetically.   First, immediately ban all private fireworks statewide, with serious penalties.  Second, effectively use weather forecasts for de-energizing powerlines in rural areas where wildfires could break out.  I will note that predicted dry conditions can be associated with a reduced lightning threat and lightning starts many of our major fires.

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Frank from NoVA
June 30, 2021 10:15 am

 “First, immediately ban all private fireworks statewide, with serious penalties.”

  • As opposed to public fireworks?

 “Second, effectively use weather forecasts for de-energizing powerlines in rural areas where wildfires could break out.”

  • How about de-energizing power lines to progressive cities and suburbs where most of the load is? Or maybe the woke utility commission should do its job and allow the utility to manage vegetation within its right of ways?
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
June 30, 2021 10:23 am

How about putting sprinklers along the power-transmission lines, ready in place just like we require sprinklers in commercial buildings?

Here’s a proposal to do just that, cost-effectively and far more reliable than the failed approaches to “wildfire suppression.”

This is really a political challenge, not a technical one…

Reply to  Alexander
July 1, 2021 6:32 am

I suspect most of the fires are started at the distribution level.

Reply to  Frank from NoVA
June 30, 2021 11:37 am

How about requireing utilities to maintain their power lines? 87 people murdered in Paradise because PG&E neglected 100 year old lines…

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Gary
June 30, 2021 8:00 pm

Golly gee Gary, public utilities love investing in new lines because they can earn their cost of capital on allowed investments. They also don’t have a problem maintaining assets if they’re allowed to recover their expenses. Problems do occur, however, when progressive public utility commissions lard up customer bills with all kinds of green nonsense. Maybe you can guess what has to give.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
June 30, 2021 12:23 pm

Gotta punish those rural Trump voters.

Reply to  Frank from NoVA
June 30, 2021 12:39 pm

Why are failed California solutions appearing in a weather blog from the Pacific Northwest?

California outlawed fireworks 90 years ago and they are available everywhere on any street for a price. Likewise, the worst fires ever seen in California last year were all caused by lightning strikes and no firefighter response blamed on Covid, while millions sat home in the dark on windy days to prevent wildfires.

In 1970, a friend of mine fled California to Seattle and was raving about how wonderful it was living there. He invited me to come visit, so I did. He kept trying to get me to move there too. The Seattle people I met were all nice, but they all told me not to Californicate Washington. My friend even told told me to move to Idaho first and then move to Washington with Idaho plates to avoid vandalism on my car. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted I guess.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Doonman
June 30, 2021 8:54 pm

G’Day Joel,

“…how wonderful it was living there.”

Spent a week in Seattle in the early 70’s, at a motel across the highway from SEA-TAC. First morning I asked the desk clerk about the weather —

“If you can see the mountain, it’s going to rain. If you can’t see the mountain, it already is.”

Just a slight exaggeration.

Reply to  Frank from NoVA
June 30, 2021 2:48 pm

How about requiring that power lines be buried as they are in most of the civilized world?

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Philip
June 30, 2021 7:48 pm

How about this: Underground systems are very expensive on a per mile basis. They make sense for well established / stable urban centers but don’t allow a lot of mix / usage flexibility in areas where usage is changing over time. Maybe not a big deal in, say, Europe, but one would like to think that the US still has some economic dynamism in its future. Undergrounding would also make it expensive to wheel power from the PNW or Canada to bail out our progressive friends in CA or NY.

Reply to  Philip
June 30, 2021 7:58 pm

ooohh you CAN’T do that in free-enterprise USA! Interferes with profits, y’know.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Eric Lerner
June 30, 2021 8:27 pm

Eric, there’s nothing particularly “free-enterprise” about public utility regulation. If the commission is relatively competent the lights go on when you throw a switch. Conversely, when the commission is a progressive basket case, like in California, you end up with 100 year old transmission lines and destructive fires. You might not get what you pay for, but you certainly get what you vote for.

Reply to  Philip
June 30, 2021 8:49 pm

Come visit the PNW and while here take a good long look at where power is generated, where power is generated, distance between the two locations and the terrain those power lines go through to connect the two locations.

It’s not as easy as waving your arms and saying make it so.

Reply to  Philip
June 30, 2021 10:04 pm

I believe that all renewable energy sources should be buried deep down.

Richard Page
June 30, 2021 10:17 am

Cooling by 56 degrees in just a few short hours? That’s got to be some sort of record, right? sarc

Reply to  Richard Page
June 30, 2021 10:25 am

I quite enjoyed the recent heat in the NW, e.g. Portland, to the extent that it contributed to our cool weather in Colorado, with daily highs in the 60’s. It’s going to reach 75F today and can’t complain about that. Low 80’s beginning this weekend.

Reply to  Scissor
June 30, 2021 10:53 am

AZ got clouds and moisture out of the deal.

Reply to  Richard Page
June 30, 2021 5:36 pm

That CO2 thing – no stamina, even when it gangs up on places.

Reply to  Richard Page
July 1, 2021 8:06 am

Great for dramatic and entertaining headlines, but not a freak event. Every air mass has its characteristics. Continental Tropical air mass (typical in the Sonora Desert) is abruptly replaced by an upwelling-augmented Maritime Polar air mass, however shallow, from a somewhat nearby ocean or a very large ocean-like lake. An equally remarkable rapid temperature fluctuation in Duluth in late May, roughly ten years ago seemed to hold a world record briefly. Also, one can also change air masses by traveling an extremely short distance or walking uphill or downhill for a very short distance in some areas, such as the California coast.

June 30, 2021 10:31 am

Stay tuned for more climate vs. weather fearmongering.

Michael wood
Reply to  markl
June 30, 2021 10:49 am

Weathertainment industry

June 30, 2021 10:35 am

Descending air causes heat at the surface.
Who would have thought it ?

Reply to  Stephen Wilde
June 30, 2021 11:07 am

Descending air has been happening throughout history. But not 115°F in Portland.

Anthony Banton
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 11:15 am
Michael wood
Reply to  Anthony Banton
June 30, 2021 12:53 pm

It beat the record from 1937 by 2 degrees C. Whats the margin of error? Can you feel the difference between 45 and 47 deg c? Location differences? Many questions that the layman watching the news report would never think of asking

Also, what caused it to be so hot back then? Weather anomaly. Nothing more. We are now back to average Temps after a 3 day heat wave. Big deal

Anthony Banton
Reply to  Michael wood
June 30, 2021 3:02 pm

Actually the previous “all time” high recorded in Canada was bettered by nearly 5C.
The last in the series of 3 consecutive daily maxes at Lytton was 49.6C.

M Bonthoux
Reply to  Anthony Banton
June 30, 2021 5:22 pm

Not accurate. 114 degrees F in Yellowgrass SK. In a steel sign by the road. Year, 1937. 114F translates to approximately 45.55C. At Lyttons 47.9, my math says not quite 2.5C difference. I drive by Yellowgrass at nearly once a month. I’m sure if the ‘global’ temp is driving upwards, somewhere on the prairies we’ll beat the Lytton temp. soon! Cheers.

Reply to  M Bonthoux
June 30, 2021 6:45 pm

But Lytton reached 49.4 °C

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 2, 2021 9:07 am

Overall, the Contiguous US is 1.4°F below climatology average.

Tony Sullivan
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 11:30 am

I’d guess to state that at some point in the history of this rock we live on that the area now named Portland has not only reached 115F, but exceeded it.

Reply to  Tony Sullivan
June 30, 2021 11:37 am

Well, history has not recorded it.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 11:49 am

What about when the poles were ice free? Are you going to claim that didn’t happen because some bloke wasn’t stood there with his paper, pen, and thermometer to record it?

joe belford
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
June 30, 2021 12:02 pm

The poles went ice free cause tropical thunderstorms regulate climate.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 12:30 pm

PEOPLE have not recorded it. However, there may be a way to get proxies to admit what happened in 1815-16 when the same conditions prevailed.

John Tillman
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 12:59 pm

History did record it, but then dropped it down the memory hole. Oregon’s record high until recently was 119 degrees F. at Pendleton in 1898. The authorities decided that reading was unreliable, so replaced it with 117 F. at Umatilla in 1939. The heat wave just tied that.

Other thermometers in town recorded up to 124 F in August 1898.

Portland however probably hasn’t been as hot as this month since its incorporation in 1851. But odds are that at some point during the Holocene, its site has experienced more heat.

Hal McCombs
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 6:00 pm

Most of history has not been recorded.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Hal McCombs
June 30, 2021 9:05 pm

G’Day Hal,

“Most of history has not been recorded.”

You might download:

Weather ‘history’ from various records from 2AD to 1900AD. (Over 1,000 pages, with source references.)

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 11:19 pm

Weather history has a very short memory

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 11:47 am

C’mon Nick. You’re not going to start claiming one weather event is actually climate, are you? That would be extremely unscientific, wouldn’t it?

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 12:44 pm

Nope that’s not scaring me into wearing a climate hairshirt.
Calm down and enjoy the warmer weather!

Rory Forbes
Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 1:51 pm

I’ll repeat the same thing to you that I said to Nick earlier …

“You so badly want your irrational beliefs to be true. It must be depressing being wrong so often. You insist on attributing to climate what is obviously just weather.”

Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
June 30, 2021 2:00 pm

No, but the probabilities have changed. The lowering of the temperature gradient between equator and pole is also causing the jet stream to wander, making ‘stuck’ weather patterns like this one more likely to occur.

AC Osborn
Reply to  Simon
June 30, 2021 3:04 pm

It is called the wavy jetstream and is nothing new and not associated with Climate but with Quiet Sun periods.
Sorry to disappoint you.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Simon
June 30, 2021 3:32 pm

And now Antifa Simon weighs in with his “learned” opinion.

Reply to  Carlo, Monte
June 30, 2021 5:40 pm

…. but, unfortunately, the voices in his head don’t do mathematics.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 12:03 pm

So are you saying is has never been 115F in that part of the continent?

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 12:38 pm

How much history is entombed in the few puny weather records people have written down?

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 12:44 pm

The thermometer was invented in 1714, exactly the same day that history began. What a coincidence!

Reply to  Doonman
June 30, 2021 3:34 pm

1596 Galileo Galilei invented the ‘thermoscope’ that indicated temperature difference, but widly inaccurate because it was influenced by air pressure.
[ It was a container filled with bulbs of varying mass, each with a temperature marking. The buoyancy of water changes with temperature. Some of the bulbs sink while others float, and the lowest bulb indicated what temperature it was. ]

Santorio Santorio (1561-1636) is generally credited with having applied a scale to an air thermoscope at least as early as 1612.

1654, The first sealed liquid (alcohol)-in-a-glass thermometer was designed for the grand duke of Tuscany, used alcohol, and it had degree marks.

1664, The man credited with using the freezing point of water as the zero, or starting point was the Englishman, Robert Hooke.

Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit invented a alcohol thermometer in 1709,
and the mercury thermometer in 1714.
1724, he introduced the standard Fahrenheit temperature scale.

In 1742 a Swedish scientist Anders Celsius (1701-1744) devised a thermometer scale dividing the freezing and boiling points of water into 100 degrees.
Celsius chose 0 degrees for the boiling point of water, and 100 degrees for the freezing point.

1743, the Frenchman Jean Pierre Cristin (1683-1755) inverted the Celsius scale to produce the centigrade scale used today (freezing point 0°C, boiling point 100°C).

By international agreement in 1948 Cristin’s adapted scale became known as Celsius and is still in use today.

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Rory Forbes
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 1:48 pm

You so badly want your irrational beliefs to be true. It must be depressing being wrong so often. You insist on attributing to climate what is obviously just weather.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 5:29 pm

Portland Urban heat island would be part of story.
People stop living on land and live on the ocean.

Forrest Gardener
Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 30, 2021 7:51 pm

Spinners gotta spin.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 1, 2021 9:00 am

Nick, you can’t know that Portland has never been to 115 or 120 before. Descending air drove the dry air over Lytton to 121 just up the coast. So, the chance that the same thing will have happened in Portland multiple times in the past is 100%. “History” is a long time. Hot dry air descending in Portland is nothing more than a Santa Ana Wind North.

Reply to  Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
July 1, 2021 2:56 pm

Portland’s temperature history goes back 148 years. That gives a pretty good base. In that time it hasn’t exceeded 107°F. Now it has reached 115°F. That suggests something new is happening.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 1, 2021 3:20 pm

Suuure while ignoring THOUSANDS of years of the Holocene where it was very likely just as warm or warmer in the Portland area, 48 years out of 12,000 years of the Holocene is really stupid.

48 years…… bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

Reply to  Sunsettommy
July 1, 2021 7:17 pm

148 years. But the unknown history of the Holocene does not affect us now. What does matter is where we are going in the next decades. And if the record that has stood for 148 years can be broken by 8°F, one has to wonder.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 1, 2021 9:42 pm

148 my bad, however you make a huge big deal over a short term weather event that is caused by regional weather events that created this heat wave.

What convinces you this didn’t happen in the previous 11,852 years?

Reply to  Sunsettommy
July 1, 2021 11:23 pm

It doesn’t matter whether there were such temperatures in those times, and we have no way of knowing anyway. What matters now is that the PNW evolved in the climate we were used to, where this kind of event doesn’t happen. It was just luck that it came in June – at the end of summer the wildfires would have been horrible. If this is a new reality, we need to know if there is anything we can do about it.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 1, 2021 9:46 am

Descending air has been happening throughout history. But not 115°F in Portland.

Hmm! How do you know that? History began when?

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 1, 2021 10:36 am

You don’t know that because you only know what’s happened there for a little over the last hundred years and that’s it.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 2, 2021 9:12 am

If we want to willy wave extreme temps around, what about the -81 C in Antarctica last week? 10 degrees below average. I thought the climate models said the poles would be warming. It’s almost as if the thermageddonists haven’t got a clue, isn’t it?

(And we won’t mention the record cold in New Zealand on 27th May, because that wouldn’t fit the “we’re all gonna fry” narrative, would it?)

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Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 2, 2021 9:19 am

It’s all to do with the jet stream getting wavier, isn’t it?
Oh, hang on, the sacred models said it would get less wavy
In fact, this lot were quite adamant it’s not getting wavier
When are you thermageddonists going to get it right?

Reply to  Stephen Wilde
June 30, 2021 1:13 pm

Highly localised heat. (Weather)

The US actually had a slightly negative anomaly.

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Reply to  clarence.t
June 30, 2021 1:45 pm

Exactly! While all the media and warmist caterwauling was focused on the 1/8 of the nation’s area in the Pacific northwest this past week that set temp records, they’ve been totally ignoring the 3/4 of the nation that has had below average to average temps all this week.

It’s all the same thermal energy, but due to dynamic factors of air pressure, moisture, and resulting areal distribution of winds, the thermal energy in the US got concentrated in one corner for a few days. Big effing deal!

June 30, 2021 10:53 am

I’m glad the Portland riot control police squad all resigned ahead of this heat. ID, WY, and MT can be nice this time of year at elevation.

June 30, 2021 10:55 am

So, is this perhaps a butterfly’s wing effect due to distortion of air-flow due to all those wind turbines?

Reply to  IanE
June 30, 2021 12:52 pm

Of course it is. Lorenz predicted this years ago with his chaos theory.

So, that’s science on parade and now its come true. And no one can prove otherwise. So anyone who claims that wind turbines are not affecting the weather are science deniers.

Bruce Cobb
June 30, 2021 11:09 am

Hot enuf fer you?
We went to the lake to cool off. What’d you do?
Nothin’. I got me one of them beanie caps with the propeller. Kept me cool as a cucumber.
I gotta get me one of those.

Kit P
June 30, 2021 11:17 am

“Believe it or not.
Seattle now has a higher record maximum temperature than Miami, Atlanta, Washington DC, or Chicago.”

That is where I stopped reading! 

First of what does that have to do with anything?

When I lived in the Columbia Basin I thought I had lost the ability to sweat. Then I moved to Virginia. When I retired to the PNW, I returned because of the dry climate.

joe belford
Reply to  Kit P
June 30, 2021 12:05 pm

AGW proponents claimed we would experience more extremes.

Rich Davis
Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 1:52 pm

There isn’t any negative thing that AGW proponents haven’t claimed we’d experience. And every time anything undesirable happens we have to listen to loons like you go on and on about it and how it was predicted.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 1:55 pm

AGW proponents claimed we would experience more extremes.

And of course, like every other prediction they have made, they were wrong in that one as well.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 3:33 pm

Who are “we”?

John Tillman
Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 6:46 pm

Please cite when these supposed claims were made, by whom and with what supporting evidence. Thanks!

June 30, 2021 11:23 am

I was just reading the news, BBC, Cnn etc etc, and its all OMG THE WORLD US ENDING, HEATWAVE DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE, I needed some common sense, so I went to my emails to see if their had been a post about it on here, and Yep, common sense and logic wins again… Thank you Wattsupwiththat

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Sunny
June 30, 2021 11:53 am

Unlike the climate, it was easy to predict:
1) The MSM would scream, “CLIMATE CHAOS!!!!!!!”
2) WUWT would post something genuinely interesting about the fascinating event
3) Nick S would pop up to beat his CAGW drum in the comments section

John VC
June 30, 2021 11:43 am

Would have been informative had Cliff listed the dates of the broken records, and as mentioned down thread, the record keeping doesn’t go far enough into the past to claim “all time highs”

June 30, 2021 11:46 am

Back in the summer of 1957 a significant heat wave struck Northern California and Oregon. Temps in Hoopa Valley on the Trinity River hit 116F. There was talk that the town of Willow Creek to the south had hit 120F. Does Portland have temp data going back to 1957? How high were temps back then?

This 1957 heat wave coincided with the major fire at Clearlake Ca. The heat spell lasted for almost one month. I don’t know how far north the heat wave impacted, but Southern Oregon should have recorded some high temps.

Reply to  goldminor
June 30, 2021 5:52 pm

I experienced 116F in California in the late 90s (I think). I could find out from my photo file. I might be off by 5 years. I was driving up to the Sierras from the Bay Area and stopped in Auburn to cool off. Well, at least my innards got cooled off with several nitro-draft coolants.

Coming from England I quite enjoyed it.

Don’t let the loonies, crackpots and jealous, sad people stop you enjoying your lives.

June 30, 2021 11:53 am

Ozone is another issue and is actually worst not in the cities, but downwind in vegetated areas, such as the foothills of the Cascades. Look at the ozone in Enumclaw, southeast of Seattle. Progressively increased during the last week before dropping rapidly last night.

So where did the ozone come from?
Let’s ask Erl Happ

Dave Yaussy
June 30, 2021 11:59 am

Cliff said earlier that, in his opinion, anthropogenic global warming would probably contribute 2 or 3 degrees to the heating. Whether you agree with that or not, it’s worth noting that, even if you take that into account, the records would have been broken anyway.

John Tillman
Reply to  Dave Yaussy
June 30, 2021 12:33 pm

IIRC, he said the regional average is now 1-2 F higher than 50 years ago, back when global cooling was the scare. It’s probably now still cooler on average than the 1930s.

June 30, 2021 12:09 pm

Here in California, or at least in this jurisdiction, virtually all fireworks are banned. There is a large fine for any unapproved fireworks.The approved kinds are rather uninteresting. It has been this way for decades.

Every year, for weeks surrounding the 4th and New Year, there are many explosions, roman candles, bursting rockets, every kind of firework, throughout the neighborhood. If anything, use has grown as the years went by. During the past few years there have been sporadic displays at odd times not associated with any events I know about.

I think it is exactly like the illegal drug issue, like Prohibition was, like all the increases in “gun violence” that has come with ever more and more draconian anti-gun laws. Something might work, although I don’t know what, but laws and penalties will not. They are like all the liberal “it didn’t work because we did not do enough of it”.

joe belford
June 30, 2021 12:16 pm

For all the folks claiming this extreme heat in the Northwest was “just weather,” look at the title of this post:
So, when it is cold, it’s an example against “global warming,” but when it’s hot, it’s “just weather.”

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Richard Page
Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 12:22 pm

You really have no idea what sarcasm is, do you? Perhaps if you go away and look up the definition it might, just might, clue you in on a headline that you seem to find disturbing and everyone else had a little chuckle over.

joe belford
Reply to  Richard Page
June 30, 2021 12:36 pm

What is the matter Mr. Page, are you troubled by my pointing out a bit of bias?

Maybe the title of this article should start out “Global Cooling?”

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Richard Page
Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 12:40 pm

It’s not bias, it’s humour.
What is the matter Mr. Belford, are you troubled by my pointing out a bit of a funny?

joe belford
Reply to  Richard Page
June 30, 2021 1:35 pm

This picture of “Global Cooling” is funny: comment image?w=840&ssl=1

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  joe belford
July 1, 2021 4:23 am

He was mocking the Warmists, and yes, it was meant to be funny. But your lack of a sense of humor rivals your lack of intelligence.

Reply to  Richard Page
July 1, 2021 6:43 am

The left can’t meme and have no humor. Just miserable people in general looking for purpose.

Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 1:16 pm

a very localised weather event.. get over it !

Reply to  joe belford
June 30, 2021 1:15 pm

Very localised heat.. so yes, just weather

The US as a hole actually had a slightly negative anomaly

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June 30, 2021 12:33 pm

Um, since climate is defined as average weather, these temperatures will have to persist for several years until a new average can be made, then it might be a changed climate.

Isn’t that correct?

Richard Page
Reply to  Klem
June 30, 2021 12:54 pm

These high temperatures were just an example of regional weather. As I pointed out elsewhere, it’s much the same as the low (chilly) temperatures I’ve experienced at the same time where I live. To try to extrapolate these out to global climate events is just meaningless.

Reply to  Klem
June 30, 2021 12:58 pm


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Richard Page
Reply to  n.n
June 30, 2021 1:03 pm

From what I understand from the new system, they intend changing the terms to daddy bear (too hot), mummy bear (too cold) and goldilocks (just right) so it will be instantly understandable for the climate enthusiasts! sarc

June 30, 2021 12:52 pm

If I understand this correct, once Texas had a fortnight of bitter cold that challenged the electricity grid, the recommendation of everyone not effected was “Winterize your windmills and thermal generators”. I assume now that the recommendations towards those in the PNW is to retrofit every building with central air-conditioning, and to landscape with plants that can endure days of extreme heat.

June 30, 2021 1:01 pm

On the bright side, short of repeating this baby per chance fetus (i.e. viable and not viable, respectively) event, all future reports will indicate high and low temperatures as below and above normal, too cold and too hot, respectively.

June 30, 2021 1:09 pm

I’m not sure why these posts are being shared here. The rhetoric is over the top and contains idiotic suggestions like cutting power for days at a time to rural areas.

They are already doing this in California and it has a severe impact on folks. The minimum power outage lasts for at least 24 hours and usually longer than that. It impacts 100’s of thousands of folks at a time — or more. Unless you have a generator, food spoils and your house is essentially unlivable. If you do have a generator, you wind up spending more on fuel in a couple days than you do for a whole month’s worth of electricity — even at the ridiculous, artificially inflated rates we pay in Calif (e.g. $0.30 to $0.40 per kWh).

The “right” answer is for the power companies to be responsible and maintain the grid. And for State regulators to get out of the way and allow them to do that.

Cliff Mass has no credibility with me anymore.

Reply to  Observer
June 30, 2021 1:35 pm

Uh…no. I live in a fairly remote location of northwest Montana, essentially at the end of the line for a rural electric cooperative. Power outages are fairly common. Knowing this, when we built our retirement place 8 years ago, we factored in an automatic generator that comes on immediately when the power goes out. A short outage is 8 hours and, if it was a significant, region wide weather event, the outage can be 24 hrs+. Our generator runs on propane (what else, in a remote area…), and there is NO WAY our generator costs in fuel come anywhere close to what we pay each month for electricity (about $100 +/-).

Reply to  LKMiller
June 30, 2021 10:15 pm

Okay, so my generator consumes about 1gal/hr of gasoline, and for a 24hr run at $4.00/gal thats $100.

The cost to outfit a house with a 15-20kW generator and automatic transfer switch is significant. Should we be requiring 100’s of thousands or millions of folks to make that investment because PGE won’t maintain their power grid? We’re not talking about remote, out of the way places here. Huge parts of California have already experienced “power safety shutdown” events.

June 30, 2021 1:19 pm

Okay, so the PacNW got the heat that we in the Midwest might have gotten, and our weather has been pleasantly below average daytime, really nice sleeping weather at night.

We’ve had several days of intermittent rain showers, off and on all day, and my lawn looks less like a dilapidated rug and more like a lawn. There are some patches that need reseeding, but that’s okay. The one thing that is good is that the lack of heat and rain kept the violets from growing and blooming and spreading, which means I don’t have to spray them to get rid of them. Fine by me.

If leaves on plants dry out and fall, that’s just the plant shutting off water supply. The roots should still be active and leaves will grow back. You could turn the hose on them, too.

It’s just a weather event, nothing else, and as noted in the article, good sleeping weather.

June 30, 2021 1:32 pm

I have a cabin and property on the Fraser River just south of Lytton, BC, and yesterday there was a new record set a of 121.1 degrees, (49.5 C) the hottest ever seen anywhere in Canada since record-keeping began. That’s Death Valley hot. It’s fairly remote off grid so no A/C, but have a creek that is-was still melting snow from the north side of Jackass Mountain at 6,500 feet so the creek is still numbing cold, so I go sit in the creek canyon just below a waterfall, and is 40-50 degrees cooler in the shade of a tall forest. The creek water is only 42 degrees so almost too cold except for a brief dip and the Fraser River is still flowing near the mid June peak at 282,000 CFS. It is even hotter downstream on the Fraser River at Hells Gate (aptly named) but this is all fairly normal, except maybe a few degrees warmer measured with the newest digital thermometers. I will take this any day over 90 degrees and 90% humidity which really is unbearable, especially at night. It’s the heat index that counts, not the temperature, although best to stay out of the Sun.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Earthling2
July 1, 2021 7:11 am

“It’s the heat index that counts, not the temperature”

That is correct. The heat index around here has been running above 100 off and on, for some weeks now. We are getting a lot of rain now, which is keeping the temperatues down, but the heat index up. I much prefer the drier weather as far as comfort is concerned. I went outside just a few minutes ago and walked about a quarter of a mile and was soaked with sweat. I’m sitting in my nice, comfortable,air conditioned room right now.

Rich Davis
June 30, 2021 2:23 pm

So explain to me again why we think the Martyred Meteorologist is objective?

I guess I am doing my not-reading-carefully-enough thing again. I missed the extensive explanation of how this was a weather event and not a climate change thing.

But he didn’t mention the word “climate” never mind “climate change”, nor did he mention “warming” or “global warming”. Hell, he only used the word “weather” twice and not to say anything like “this is just a freak weather event”.

Here are some moderate, objective words I did notice while not reading carefully enough:


I know that I’m not reading carefully enough. It’s well established that it’s my habit. But somehow I missed the whole promised “detailed examination of this event in the context of global warming”

How did I miss it? I’m sure it must be there somewhere.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Rich Davis
June 30, 2021 5:43 pm
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Rich Davis
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 1, 2021 4:51 am

Apparently nobody who informed me of my reading comprehension issues last week is prepared to step up and attempt a lame defense of the Martyred Meteorologist, supposed (deeply-in-the-) closet skeptic, and just incredibly objective, all-around great guy, Dr (I didn’t spend six years in evil medical school to be called mister, thank you very much) Cliff Mass.

But seriously, this is the post mortem promised in Mass’ 3rd Update on the Heat Apocalypse? This explains everything through a “detailed examination of this event in the context of global warming”?

Do you need some help ginning up a spin? Maybe he’s so oppressed (by ?) that the only way he can dog whistle to us fellow climate deniers that there is NO connection to global warming is by carefully and altogether completely avoiding the phrase that he promised would be the entire context of this posting?

Won’t you please disabuse me of my manifest delusions? Obviously I’m once again missing the obvious.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 1, 2021 7:13 am


Yeah, I thought that might have been a little over the top, myself.

Peter Morris
June 30, 2021 2:28 pm

Record hot – global warming
Record cold – climate change

No, I noticed the switch. People don’t like being lied to.

June 30, 2021 4:43 pm

as a non-scientist, but avid WUWT reader, my thanks to “saveenergy” for the history of the thermometer
I know it took a lot of time to research and write the post…I am sure many others enjoyed it and found it as educational as I did.
to all…please keep the conversation for this and other WUWT topic going…we need this dialog so very much.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Deacon
July 1, 2021 7:16 am

Yes, that was interesting to me, too.

We get lots of good tidbits of knowledge here at WUWT. Lots of good contributors making sense out of Climate Alarmist nonsense.

June 30, 2021 6:00 pm

Well, I’m located a bit south of the area you focused on, but can attest to the heat, the damage, and the very welcome marine-layer intrusion.

I’m in Mill City, OR (about 44.75N, at an elevation of about 1000ft, in the Cascade foothills). On Monday, we hit 115.5F on my PWS at around 4:30PM. The cooling began some 10-15 minutes later with a sharp windshift from easterlies (downslope) to westerlies (upslope). The temperature drop was fairly steady, about -10F per hour for three hours, then slowed a bit and continued to cool through the night until we were down to 58F at around 6:00AM on Tuesday.

The westerlies continued through Tuesday and kept the high temperatures just under 90F for the day.

Today was mostly pleasant, with marine layer influence finally burning off in the early afternoon.

Plant damage was pretty severe. Even though soils were reasonably moist, the trees and shrubs could not keep up with the heat, especially for vegetation with direct southern exposure. The new growth on the south side of trees and shrubs was badly scorched, but many appear to have sufficient surviving leaf/needle area to get through this crisis.

My worst problem is my trees that were damaged in September’s wildfire, but which were looking like they would survive. This heat-shock turned much of their new growth from tender green to brittle brown in a matter of hours. Many of the trees that would have barely survived the wildfire are now going to die.

June 30, 2021 10:02 pm

President Biden says it was a lot hotter when he was first elected 180 years ago.

Reply to  Dennis
June 30, 2021 10:03 pm

Prime Minister Trudeau replied: “may I quote you on that Mr President”.

June 30, 2021 10:26 pm

We hit 104 Monday on Hood Canal, at low tide no less. Our newly seeded Oyster bags (shellfish farming) were exposed, not sure if they survived. Tuesday showed a large number of dead cockle clams all over. Tuesday night a group of otters moved in and had a wild feast. Wednesday morning we had empty shells everywhere.
I’m pretty sure the otters were pleased with the whole event…

Matthew Sykes
June 30, 2021 10:59 pm

There is a lot of concern about regional wildfires”

Let it burn, it is natural to do so. There are many plants that have evolved to need fire to reproduce. They are called pyrophytes.

Provided the fires dont impact property, roads etc (ie, clear the land back 100 meters all around, then let them rip. It is nature doing its thing.

July 1, 2021 3:51 am

LA LA LA- move along, nothing to see here…

Tom Abbott
July 1, 2021 5:03 am

From the article: “You want record high temperatures? Come to the Northwest!”

Well, if you weren’t there over the last few days, you missed it.

We get these kinds of temperatures in the southern States all summer long. The Northwest gets something like this that lasts four or five days, and then doesn’t happen again for 100 years.

So, much ado about not very much.

July 1, 2021 6:30 am

Another way to reduce fire risk: Have cash strapped utilities divert some of the money they have to spend on “green” energy and use it to trim trees away from power lines. It’s called maintenance.

July 1, 2021 1:08 pm

The gullible believes those numbers.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ruleo
July 1, 2021 7:09 pm

Yes, they do.

July 1, 2021 8:18 pm

Good article! Nice to read a weather story without the hysterics and politics as the lead. It’s been very warm in the Northeast the last few days. When I was a kid they called it a heat wave. Rain today and down in the 60’s now.

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