Biden Press Secretary Jen Psaki announcing emergency diesel generators are being shipped to Texas.

Press Secretary Psaki: Biden Administration Sending Emergency Diesel Generators to Texas

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t ResourceGuy; If you were expecting President Biden to ship emergency solar panels to Texas, you were wrong. Looks like when renewable energy fails, as it did in Texas, even the Biden administration turns to more reliable forms of energy.

Biden administration sending generators to Texas amid power outages

Ursula Perano
Thu, February 18, 2021, 5:22 AM

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said at a briefing on Wednesday that the Biden administration is sending emergency generators to Texas amid ongoing power outages and freezing weather.

Why it matters: Huge swaths of Texas have been without electricity for days due to critical failures in the state’s power grid. The outages come while a winter storm continues to pummel the state, causing unsafe conditions and a desperate need for heat.

Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administration-sending-generators-texas-192232560.html

Click here to see a video of Jen Psaki explaining the plan to send diesel generators to Texas and other states likely to be affected by winter storms.

Even if a storm like this only happens ever 20 years, going 100% renewable is clearly now unacceptable. People who rely on electricity for heating are in deadly danger, if the only source of power is renewable energy, and the renewable energy systems freeze solid during severe ice storms.

If the plan is to maintain enough diesel backup to keep the lights on when renewables fail, renewables will never be affordable. Consumers will be saddled with the expense of maintaining the renewable infrastructure, and the additional expense of maintaining a complete second set of power infrastructure at operational readiness, ready to switch on when the renewables fail.

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Editor
February 18, 2021 2:04 am

Oh, goodie. I love the smell of diesel in the morning.

Regards,
Bob

PS: Thanks, Eric. The headline made me laugh.

Editor
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2021 2:42 am

The photo of Jen “circle back” Psaki looking dumbfounded added to the entertainment.

Thanks again, Eric.

Regards,
Bob

Editor
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2021 3:15 am

And now for some additional entertainment at Jen Psaki’s expense:

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik7F71acDLs&w=560&h=315%5D

Regards,
Bob

Megs
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
February 18, 2021 3:48 am

Isn’t that the best clip! I almost want to sing along with the “I will have to circle back on that one”

Thanks Bob you made me smile.

Vuk
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
February 18, 2021 4:58 am

Is this some kind of a joke?
Don is laughing his head off.
Don Junior go Texas and and tell it as it is, could do you lot of good.

commieBob
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
February 18, 2021 5:01 am

It smells like victory.

Ron Long
February 18, 2021 2:08 am

Good posting, Eric. When the electricity fails who you going to call? Portable diesel generators! This event should be a wake-up alarm to the New Green Weenie crowd, but only a small chance, and then only for those directly affected. Go Nuclear! The ultimate back-up.

Derg
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2021 4:35 am

I doubt it. To “those” people Texas was a fossil fuel failure and that will be the spin 🙁

Fran
Reply to  Derg
February 18, 2021 8:21 am

One of the commenters yesterday pointed out that the problems with the gas generation was that a higher amount of moisture in gas is standard in Texas than in colder climates like Alberta. Thus, with extreme cold there is condensation in gas lines. Is the cost of drying gas enough that it is not worth doing it for something that occurs only every 20-50 years?

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Fran
February 18, 2021 9:40 am

Ask the folks who are freezing in Texas…

chemman
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
February 18, 2021 2:36 pm

Ultimately they will decide if the benefits outweigh the costs.

Derg
Reply to  Fran
February 18, 2021 9:49 am

Failure to plan is deadly. Putting money into unreliable forms of energy can be deadly.

Chris Nisbet
Reply to  Fran
February 18, 2021 11:49 am

Haven’t we been told that global warming causes _more_ cold weather events like this? So maybe it won’t be every 20-50 years, but every decade.
It’s so hard keeping up with the catastrophes that global warming will cause.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
February 18, 2021 1:32 pm

Well, the globe could be slipping into a cooling phase such as happened during the period from 1940 to 1980 where the temperatures dropped about 2.0C during that time span.

So, we might be getting more colder weather in the future. Which is not good for unreliable power generation.

Reply to  Derg
February 18, 2021 8:53 am

I see there a problem:
As fossils drive warming via CO2, and it’s so cold because of warming, the warming has to be reduced using “renewables”. /sarc

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Krishna Gans
February 18, 2021 1:33 pm

AOC would think you were making perfect sense.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Krishna Gans
February 19, 2021 10:03 am

I saw a good cartoon today titled “Green New Freeze

https://www.wnd.com/2021/02/green-new-freeze/

The only thing I would have changed if I were the cartoonists, is I would have made the person inside the block of ice resemble AOC. 🙂

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2021 6:59 am

Eric, I agree with others: thanks for a really funny, spot-on article.

Unfortunately, the current federal administration—from the President down to our climate czar down to the lowest Federal employee working on weather/climate concerned about keeping his/her job—will be soon be uniformly announcing that this deep cold is the direct result of climate change™.

You know, “See, we’ve told you for years that climate change™ is an existential threat!”

As sure as night follows day.

Heck, they’ve even resurrected that old meme of climate-induced disruptions to the polar vortex to explain the deep cold recently sweeping across the US.

The AGW/CAGW alarmists were somewhat clever back ca. 1990 to change their meme from “global warming” to “climate change”, so that it could cover all eventualities.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
February 18, 2021 7:53 am

Now I see “global heating” being used in the media. But I think it actually helps “anti-extremists” ‘cuz, you know, a bit too hypy.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
February 18, 2021 11:09 am

The AGW/CAGW alarmists were somewhat clever back ca. 1990 to change their meme from “global warming” to “climate change”, so that it could cover all eventualities.

They had already considered that when the IPCC was formed, even though they were barely past the “Global Cooling” scam. The mandate of the IPCC was to “find evidence of climate change” to assist in government policy.making. That’s exactly what they are doing, even when they have to invent it themselves.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 18, 2021 1:39 pm

Their mandate was to find “Human-caused” climate change.

And they claim they have found it. That way they can keep their mandate going. If they said they couldn’t find any, then they would be out of a job. So that’s not going to happen. Not in a bureaucracy.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 18, 2021 2:59 pm

Well, they did have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period and the LIA … “adjust” the raw data, cool the past and warm the present and adulterate the entire data set to accomplish it, but you’re right. They “found it” all right. Those clever little dickens.

Now they’re working on eliminating the Holocene Thermal Optimum so they can have a hockey stick with a handle going back 10 millennia.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
February 18, 2021 1:36 pm

“Heck, they’ve even resurrected that old meme of climate-induced disruptions to the polar vortex to explain the deep cold recently sweeping across the US.”

Vuk says a recent volcanic eruption near the arctic is what disrupted the air over the arctic and is what caused the cold arctic air to move south into the United States.

It sounds plausible to me.

Bindidon
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2021 11:04 am

Nice to rant against renewables, but… according to the Texas Tribune on 2021, Feb 16

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/natural-gas-power-storm/

Texas largely relies on natural gas for power. It wasn’t ready for the extreme cold.
Texas largely relies on natural gas — especially during times of high demand — to power the state. Experts say natural gas infrastructure, from pumping it out of the ground to the plants in city centers, was unprepared for the plunging temperatures brought by the winter storm.

Failures across Texas’ natural gas operations and supply chains due to extreme temperatures are the most significant cause of the power crisis that has left millions of Texans without heat and electricity during the winter storm sweeping the U.S.
From frozen natural gas wells to frozen wind turbines, all sources of power generation have faced difficulties during the winter storm. But Texans largely rely on natural gas for power and heat generation, especially during peak usage, experts said.
Officials for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which manages most of Texas’ grid, said the primary cause of the outages Tuesday appeared to be the state’s natural gas providers. Many are not designed to withstand such low temperatures on equipment or during production.

Electricity gdeneration out of gas: 53 %; out of wind turbines: currently, 7 %.

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The very best is that there are in the US three electricity grids:

  • Western Interconnect;
  • Eastern Interconnect;

and

  • Texas!

Texas operates their own independent and isolated electric grid. They do not have the ability to import electricity from other regions like every other state does.

J.-P. D.

Chuck no longer in Houston
Reply to  Bindidon
February 18, 2021 1:40 pm

None of the other regions had power to spare either. The whole country (except Forida) is in the grips of a powerful, and long lasting, cold weather event.

David A
Reply to  Chuck no longer in Houston
February 18, 2021 7:38 pm

Bingo, plus the only natural gas failure was it could not increase as much as hoped while wind failed. Look at coal and natural gas load following hapless wind and helpless solar.comment image

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bindidon
February 18, 2021 1:45 pm

“Texas operates their own independent and isolated electric grid. They do not have the ability to import electricity from other regions like every other state does.”

Texas wouldn’t need to import electrical power if they built enough generation to supply all their needs through any type of weather.

Unreliable energy generation does not fit this bill.

Virtue signalling Texas politicians should be voted out of office for failing to see the ramifications of their decisions. The ramifications are now readily apparent, and the Texas politicians that put this in place are exposed as not capable of protecting the State of Texas.

Texans will be raising hell about this. Mark my words. Anyone would raise hell about this, but Texas is really going to raise hell.

And there’s Governor Abbott on Fox News defending the use of windmills. That’s a losing position, Governor Abbott. You should stop singing the praises of unreliable energy generation right now. You are only digging the hole deeper.

Phil.
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 18, 2021 3:39 pm

The unreliable energy in Texas is the distribution of natural gas in cold weather because they did it on the cheap, didn’t want to spend the money on upgrading the system to handle the cold. Also didn’t want to ‘waste’ money on setting up an adequate reserve!

Steve Reddish
Reply to  Phil.
February 18, 2021 6:07 pm

Tx had enough power generation before renewables were added. Then, someone thought those renewables were reliable enough to enable shutting down coal plants.
NG plants never were thought to be enough to stand alone.

David A
Reply to  Phil.
February 18, 2021 7:40 pm

Natural gas did well in this crisis. Wind and solar was useless.Bidrn wants to shut natural gas down. comment image

Reply to  Phil.
February 19, 2021 4:27 am

What’s the difference between now and the last 100 years in Texas, its not the first time Texas has frozen? Simple the misguide self delusional belief in renewables, and no matter how many times it fails the belief will grow.
Progressives time and time again complain about something, spend money to fix the “problem”: and then the “problem” gets worse, then they spend more money to fix it and so on for ever. it always gets worse, they always blame someone else and just keep on down the path of self delusion, that’s why progressivism/ socialism is a religion its based on a belief not evidence and that’s why 100s of millions have died at its alter.

Bindidon
Reply to  Bindidon
February 19, 2021 4:47 am

Typical: all negative reactions to my post have ONE goal: to hide the fact the the problem was not the renewables, but… GAS SUPPLY.

It is absolutely evident that

  • the pipelines were not at all designed to cope with such temperatures;
  • shale gas coming from hydraulic fracturation manifestly is a lot ‘wetter’ than original natural gas, what increased the problem above.

That failure could not be predicted, and nobody -starting with myself – should rant against it. Corrections would be welcome, though.

And future energy interconnection with the rest of CONUS: would that be bad?

*
This not a reason to wrongly, woefully accuse other energy sources.

J.-P. D.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Bindidon
February 19, 2021 5:22 am

This was all recognized in 2011 when the same thing happened. The final report recommended winterization of all the nat gas infrastructure.

Guess what? The Democrat Greenies populating the ERCOT Board of Directors ignored the recommendation and instead spent their capital on the installation of *more* wind turbines. If they had winterized the nat gas infrastructure instead, TX would be sitting pretty right now. Each and every one of the ERCOT BOD should be forced to resign in disgrace and be replaced with engineers that actually understand reliability!

Jim Gorman
Reply to  Bindidon
February 19, 2021 11:39 am

You totally ignore the fact that gas was never designed as base load capable. It was always reserved for peaking capacity. In other words not operating at peak loads for any length of time.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Bindidon
February 19, 2021 7:56 am

Bindidon, you posted “From frozen natural gas wells to frozen wind turbines, . . . .”

So, I have one simple question for you: How does one freeze a natural gas well when the outside air temperature is, say, as low a -23 °C (-10 °F) as it was in the recent worst-cold conditions in Texas?

The state of Alaska produces between 20,000 and 30,000 million cubic feet of gas year-round, mostly for reinjection into oil wells to increase oil flow from those oil wells (see https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/na1160_sak_2m.htm ). Alaska’s North Slope natural gas production continues despite ambient air temperatures as low as about -40 °C (-40 °F), far colder than the recent minimums in Texas.

Even though natural gas at the wellhead typically has significant water content, this is usually prevented from “freezing out” by the temperature and heat capacity of the gas at the well source and downstream plumbing leading to the natural gas dryer under normal (high) flow conditions. Downstream of the natural gas dryer, the moisture content is so low as to absolutely preclude ice formation at any possible minimum ambient temperature on Earth.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
February 19, 2021 10:51 am

You don’t really expect to get a literate answer do you? I suspect what you will find is that it was *not* the gas freezing that caused the problems but ancillary equipment such as valves that were frozen shut by accumulated ice.

Phil.
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2021 3:27 pm

Hopefully they’ll start to ignore the profiteers who set up the Texas energy system on the cheap, and listen to the scientists and engineers. Not spending the money to guarantee that the gas pipelines will work in cold weather is the major factor. They also did the renewables on the cheap, that’s why Texas went for a separate distribution system, so that they wouldn’t be subject to Federal regulations.

David A
Reply to  Phil.
February 18, 2021 7:43 pm

Actually wind and solar made all other generation more expensive, less capable and less efficient. Much of the natural gas loss was due to some compressors hooked to the wind generated electric grid. Insane CAGW driven misery.

fred250
Reply to  Phil.
February 18, 2021 9:09 pm

“Hopefully they’ll start to ignore the profiteers who set up the Texas energy system on the cheap, and listen to the scientists and engineers”

.

YIPPEEE.. No more wind turbines and solar panels…..

Spend that money on a few good SOLID, RELIABLE COAL-FIRED power-station with gas as peaking back-up.

Make sure the grid can cope with the COLD that is going to become more frequent.

Scissor
Reply to  Ron Long
February 18, 2021 4:56 am

Really, what’s the fun of knowing your water, heat and electricity will be on when you need them?

Icicles hanging from your ceiling fan are more exciting to people like AOC.

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Ken
Reply to  Scissor
February 18, 2021 9:52 am

As long as it’s not AOC’s ceiling fan.

Patricus
Reply to  Ron Long
February 18, 2021 8:32 am

Nuclear seems a logical choice. The only problem is that no financiers will risk their money unless governments provide blanket immunity. Then there is fusion, the next great thing since the 1950s. So far no working fusion reactors. Coal and natural gas are looking better all the time.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Patricus
February 18, 2021 9:44 am

Coal looks best – it can be stockpiled to avoid service disruptions when supply interruptions occur, the stockpiles aren’t hazardous like stored natural gas (i.e., Liquified Natural Gas or “LNG” which does nasty things (like exploding) if it escapes its containment), we have plenty of it and the plants don’t go offline because of weather extremes.

Plus it releases more completely beneficial CO2.

Phil.
Reply to  Patricus
February 18, 2021 3:45 pm

Ironically part of the problem was a nuclear plant that had to be shut down, again it wasn’t built to handle extreme cold. Natural gas is the problem not the solution, they need to weather harden their system but they don’t want to spend the money.

fred250
Reply to  Phil.
February 18, 2021 9:11 pm

Yep, they need to beef up their COAL-FIRED electricity generation.

More storage for back-up gas systems, and don’t run the pumps of eratic wind-power electricity.

Wind and solar should be “shown-the-door” after this debacle.

David A
Reply to  Phil.
February 18, 2021 10:08 pm

According to this Natural gas greatly increased its production as wind collapsed, just not adquetly to compensate for the demand. The areas it did have problems have not been quantified.
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Ken
Reply to  Ron Long
February 18, 2021 9:50 am

NO! Send solar panels! I cannot believe they are going to rely on diesel. Solar panels are the obvious answer.

Also send Unicorns from the secret US Govt Unicorn Breeding Program.

What is Biden thinking.

Oh, THE HUMANITY!!!

farmerbraun
Reply to  Ron Long
February 18, 2021 2:00 pm

When this sort of thing happens in Godzone , we bring in a navy ship with large gas turbines, and plug it in.
Does the U.S. have any of those?
A few diesel gennys won’t cut it , surely?

czechlist
Reply to  farmerbraun
February 18, 2021 2:32 pm

By the time they get there and installed the crisis will have passed and I don’t think they will be sending anywhere the numbers needed. Of course they will have to be distributed ‘equitably” which means it will require additional time to determine who is the most deserving – perhaps a lottery?. And if the government is true to form it will fail to supply fuel.

Russ R.
Reply to  Ron Long
February 19, 2021 11:55 pm

Since Obiden declared his war on coal and subsidies for wind, the market has been distorted toward wind and away from coal. Added into this mix is the lower cost for NG due to fracking.
The end result is a system lacking EXCESS CAPACITY!
Wind has no excess capacity.
Solar has no excess capacity.
Nuclear has very little excess capacity, because it is normally run above 90% of capacity.
Natural Gas has excess capacity, BUT when much is needed for furnace heating, electricity generation can not be expanded to meet the additional demand for both heat and electricity.
Coal has been cut back due to both expansion of wind, and of NG.
Coal has excess capacity, but at it’s lower level of total production the excess it will produce is must less than what is needed.
The system is over-allocated on NG and Wind to produce electricity. The best short term solution is more Coal with stockpiles available to pick up the demand when wind falters and NG is at max throughput.
EIA: Texas Electricity Production by Source:
Source  Year     MW/hrs      %Change  MWH Change
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Coal    2008     147,131,841
Coal    2019      91,816,735    -37%    -55,315,106
Wind    2008     16,225,022     
Wind    2019      83,620,371   +418%   +67,395,349
NG      2008     193,247,078
NG      2019     255,630,021    +32%   +62,382,943 
All      2008     404,787,781
All      2019     483,201,031    +19%   +78,413,250
The increases in NG and Wind is 129,778,292 minus Coal = 74,463,186. Which is 95% of the total increase in all sources.
Removed Coal and replaced it with Wind and NG.
Removed a source with EXCESS CAPCITY and replaced with a source with none, and a backup source that is “over-allocated” in cold weather.

February 18, 2021 2:10 am

There is an ongoing desperate mainstream media and activist attempt to switch the blame to the oil and gas infrastructure and/or the Texan ‘go it alone’ fuel policy.
That needs to be debunked as a matter of urgency.

fred250
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
February 18, 2021 2:14 am

GAS actually SAVED THE DAY, so to speak.

Yes it had issues, but wind and solar were basically AWOL.

Coal and nuclear basically at 100% through most of the main crisis.

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Ken
Reply to  fred250
February 18, 2021 10:00 am

That graph tells the tale. Despite the freezing going on in the natural gas wells, TX was still able to more than double natural gas supply, whereas wind and solar failed when it was needed most.

You can’t fix stupid, especially when you elect the Green.

And by the way, I am a committed environmentalist. What the so-called Greens are trying to do to this country and, indeed, the world, is criminal, because I think they know that CO2 is not a problem, and that wind and solar are a joke, but they have a different agenda. It makes me want to puke.

Phil.
Reply to  fred250
February 18, 2021 3:51 pm

Fred, nuclear dropped to 75%. Texas does it’s energy on the cheap which is why it doesn’t want to spend the money on meeting federal standards.

fred250
Reply to  Phil.
February 18, 2021 7:56 pm

RUBBISH.

If they had not TOTALLY WASTED all the funds on USELESS wind and solar..

…. there would have been PLENTY to make a resilient RELIABLE grid.

Quite simply THEY MADE THE WRONG DECISION by catering to the anti-CO2 nonsense.

The people running ERCO are leftist Dumbocrats, so this is to be totally expected.

Megs
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
February 18, 2021 3:52 am

Stephen there are even renewables journalists here in Australia blaming oil and gas for the blackouts in Texas. Online and newspapers too!

Derg
Reply to  Megs
February 18, 2021 4:36 am

Agreed Meg. They are sick people.

RelPerm
Reply to  Derg
February 18, 2021 8:30 am

The blamers of oil and gas for the blackout are comparing Feb 15 to Feb16 where gas electricity generation dropped (as well as wind/solar/coal/nuclear) which precipitated blackouts. They are ignoring Feb 8 to Feb 16 comparison with wind/solar going from big chunk of generation to near zilch and gas increasing covering drops their drops. It’s amazing to see how journalists can twist stories.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Megs
February 18, 2021 8:07 am

In August of 2019, in England, blackouts were blamed on Little Barford gas-fired power plant instead of the Hornsea offshore wind farm. The gas plant could not maintain 50Hz because the wind farm couldn’t supply. Quick on virtue learning, the green weenies have distributed this plausible deniability story to their worldwide acolytes for use whenever needed.

NHarrison
Reply to  DMacKenzie
February 18, 2021 11:21 am

Suggest you read the report on the blackou. Not quite as simple as you’ve made out. Also not likely to be understood easily unless you have a knowledge of power systems and their stability. https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/system/files/docs/2019/09/eso_technical_report_-_final.pdf

ResourceGuy
Reply to  NHarrison
February 19, 2021 7:18 am

Suggest you read my post with EIA data by energy source and change in output on a multiday basis. Tell me where it’s off.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Megs
February 18, 2021 2:10 pm

Of course, they are. This Texas situation has given unreliable power generation a very black eye, and it might even be a fatal blow to the fairy tale of powering the whole world with windmills and solar.

So the alarmists are trying to divert attention from their windmill “solution” actually being the problem. So they are going to distort the facts of the situation as much as possible.

But, we will get all the gory details about all the power generation in the coming days, and we will be able to see just exactly what happened. And it’s not looking good for windmills, imo.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Megs
February 19, 2021 7:15 am

Look at this as a great litmus test of your media outlets. Are they repeaters of bad or fragmented information pushing an story agenda or are they accurate with data. In this case accuracy is not single day grid data but multi day.

Scissor
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
February 18, 2021 5:01 am

In your life, you need to include more unreliable things for the sake of diversity. Hire more unreliable employees. Use more unreliable machines. Heck, purchase your medicines from the corner drug dealer, so that you don’t know what or how much is in each pill.

Your competition will thank you for it. Chyna.

William Haas
February 18, 2021 2:10 am

Someone needs to tell the President that diesel generators run off of fossil fuel.

Reply to  William Haas
February 18, 2021 3:50 am

And tell him that in a lot of places, gas stations either don’t have gasoline/diesel and/or don’t have power. People who have generators are having difficulty finding fuel.

Richard Lyman
Reply to  David Middleton
February 18, 2021 5:15 am

I’m guessing all of those Texas Tesla owners have their batteries at zero. It should be an interesting surge when the power comes back on.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Richard Lyman
February 18, 2021 7:11 am

Good point, Richard. But also pity all those rich Texans who bought into solar installations and PowerWall battery storage, only to find out that snow/ice-covered solar panels don’t put out much power and it is difficult to clear snow/ice from those same panels when the roof they rest on is deadly slippery.

Related issue: if the grid is down, do you use your home’s solar panels to provide critical electricity to your home, or do you use it to charge your Tesla?

And the PowerWall battery will provide, what, at most maybe two days’ worth of normal home electricity usage, or maybe one full recharge for any Tesla car?

Richard Lyman
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
February 18, 2021 9:43 am

Is it not also true (I read it somewhere) that the solar panels must shut down if there is no power on the grid? If so, then they are all freezing in the dark like everyone else, even if the sun was shining. And I think you are being generous on the capacity of the PowerWall, but I’ll happily plead ignorance on that.

Ken
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
February 18, 2021 10:04 am

Also, the home generators that come on automatically when the electric power goes down, use the home’s natural gas supply.

There are no guarantees except that wind and solar will never be reliable, whereas gas will be reliable 99% of the time. That is until the current administration continues to mess with the fossil fuel companies.

Criminal.

Scissor
Reply to  William Haas
February 18, 2021 5:20 am

Could be biodiesel, although the freeze points for biodiesel tends to plug filters and lines in cold weather.

Curious George
Reply to  William Haas
February 18, 2021 7:28 am

Diesel generators should be banned immediately.
Joe, I am expecting an executive order.

Ken
Reply to  Curious George
February 18, 2021 10:05 am

Joe, send more solar and wind!!!

chemman
Reply to  Ken
February 18, 2021 2:49 pm

We don’t need anymore hot air from Joe.

Steve Case
February 18, 2021 2:22 am

“Even if a storm like this only happens ever 20 years, going 100% renewable is clearly now unacceptable. “

Well no, just as commercial aircraft have systems for dealing with icing condition, our good friends on the left will demand that the wind mills be redesigned and retrofitted with proven engineering systems to keep them operating during icing conditions. How much that impacts the cost of renewables won’t be an issue. The actual cost of renewables hasn’t been an issue so far. After all, it will provide good paying jobs.

I can’t decide if that’s sarcasm or simple recognition of how our current civilization works.

Doug Huffman
Reply to  Steve Case
February 18, 2021 2:33 am

current civilization works – affirming the antecedent?

Oldseadog
Reply to  Steve Case
February 18, 2021 3:13 am

“current civilization works”. Doesn’t seem to be working very well at the moment, or not in Texas anyway.

Derg
Reply to  Oldseadog
February 18, 2021 3:29 am

It works for the rich and less and less for the middle class.

Scissor
Reply to  Steve Case
February 18, 2021 5:21 am

Come next week, cold and snow will be a thing of the past.

Curious George
Reply to  Steve Case
February 18, 2021 7:31 am

A good Democrat never expects seven lean years. That’s the thing of the past, before we destabilized the climate.

COLD COMFORT
February 18, 2021 2:36 am

I Told You So.
Power’s out in Texas tonight, they’re freezing in the dark,
Their wind turbines have frozen, the situation is stark.
Thirty megawatts of power, costing thirty billion bucks,
With less than ten percent online, the situation sucks.
Most of the wind turbines have failed, when needed the most,
Solar panels covered in snow, while sunshine is a ghost.
The gas well heads have frozen and this reduces the flow,
Sceptics might be thinking, where’d reliable power go.
Coal fired power shut down, by those who control the debate,
Who’ve said, that for forty years, Carbon Dioxide, “we hate”.
So, rich elites who want change, keep telling their lie with ease,
Without a shred of evidence, while the poor people, freeze.
With the “green dream” now on its bum, they’ll pause to count the cost,
Seems the “green way”, is quite dumb, compared to what they’ve lost.
And Biden, in less than one month, with his new “slash and burn”,
Takes his country to the brink, to maybe, never return.
Their enemies are emboldened and can’t control their laughter,
Thinking that life for them, will be happy ever after.
As Donald Trump completes his golf round in Mar A Lago,
Pausing for a beer, he might be thinking, “I told you so”.
COLD COMFORT in Australia.

February 18, 2021 2:51 am

They will get there just in time for the 60 degree weather. Biden is on top of things.

MarkW
Reply to  bob boder
February 18, 2021 7:58 am

Have to wait till the roads are clear before they can be shipped.

Ken
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 10:08 am

Using wind and solar powered semis, of course.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Ken
February 18, 2021 1:28 pm

For wind powered semis … just park them on the top of large hills at night. Let them coast down until the wind turbine is producing good power and you’re good to go … right?

It’s simple really …

Joseph Zorzin
February 18, 2021 3:49 am
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Scissor
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 18, 2021 5:07 am

Pay no attention to the record cold weather. Now that the damage is done, Michael Mann says it’s exactly as predicted.

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  Scissor
February 18, 2021 6:00 am

Joseph, any good soothsayer knows how to tailor the interpretation of their prognostication to fit the events. Mann is the man!

George Daddis
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 18, 2021 8:40 am

Just what we need: Misinformation about Misinformation!
Fits perfectly with logic (or lack there of) of the new Administration.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  George Daddis
February 18, 2021 8:46 am

At that link: “with the help of experts from George Mason University, the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and the University of Cambridge”
I check out Yale site often- it’s pretty bad: https://yaleclimateconnections.org/

Yale’s other enviro site is a bit better and allows comments. https://e360.yale.edu/

February 18, 2021 3:59 am

Yikes … Carbon Joe is sending emergency CO2 generators — I mean Diesel generators — to help fight snow-maggedon in Texas.

Scissor
Reply to  John Shewchuk
February 18, 2021 5:09 am

And at least millions of dry wallers, painters and low skilled laborers are on the way.

MarkW
Reply to  Scissor
February 18, 2021 7:59 am

Biden has a plan to legalize everyone who entered the country illegally. That ought to boost the low skilled work force.

Reply to  John Shewchuk
February 18, 2021 7:27 am

Joey is taking his nap….I believe it is FEMA….some emergency agency like when a hurricane causes problems that is responding.

Alan M
February 18, 2021 4:22 am

Stay warm Texas and others, from relatively cool 24c Perth Aus

bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 5:06 am

It is a good thing that Biden is helping Abbot out in Texas. Texas sure does need the help because the incompetent GOP can’t govern.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 5:20 am

You keep repeating this canard and keep getting corrected. Why do you continue. The ERCOT Board of Directors set grid policy in Texas, not the governor and not the legislature. And the ERCOT BOD is run by Greenie Democrats, headed by the BOD Chairman who actually lives in Michigan!

Those Greenie BOD members were so embarrassed by their failure that yesterday they removed the list of who the BOD members are and their profiles from the ERCOT web page. Now why would they do that if they didn’t think that *they* were at fault for the debacle?

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Tim Gorman
February 18, 2021 6:12 am

Mr. Abbot appointed all three of the commissioners on the Public Utility Commission of Texas which oversees ERCOT.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 6:19 am

http://www.puc.texas.gov/

Note the 51617 and 51812 orders issued.

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Curious George
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 7:36 am

Appoint a commission, and nobody bears any responsibility.

DonM
Reply to  Curious George
February 18, 2021 9:46 am

Elect a democrat and … nobody bears any responsibility (see cuomo as example)

My guess is that Cuomo did not kill Beths grandparents or parents or anyone else that Beth cares about. (big picture though, Beth has developed her world view by not really caring bout anyone more that she cares about hating the other side)

Doonman
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 9:50 am

And Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom appointed all five commissioners to the California PUC who cant keep the lights and air conditioning on during warm weather. So California sure does need help too, because the incompetent Donkeys can’t govern as well.

MarkW
Reply to  Doonman
February 18, 2021 10:42 am

When problems occur when a Republican is in charge, it’s proof that Republicans can’t govern.
When problems occur when a Democrat is in charge, it’s still proof that Republicans can’t govern.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 11:38 am

One person died during the 2019 California outages as a result of the loss of power. Death toll in Texas is now over a dozen.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 1:56 pm

It wasn’t below freezing during the CA power outages.
Are you really as stupid as your posts make you sound?

BobM
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 4:39 pm

Proof that cold kills far more than warmth. Warmer is better, as is reliable energy. Far more were killed in California by wildfires started by a severely compromised power grid, not the one designed by engineers, but one forced into place by green policies. Cold kills, and when it does, greens have blood on their hands.

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:01 pm

“Death toll in Texas is now over a dozen.”

.

ALL down to the dumbocrats running Erco choosing to WASTE MONEY on unreliable wind and solar rather than on making the grid resilient to all types of weather.

People should be SACKED over this, and proper Engineers put in charge, ones who will not cow-tow to the anti-science of the AGW agenda.

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bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Doonman
February 18, 2021 11:09 am

Unlike Texas the California commissioners have to be confirmed by their Senate.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 1:57 pm

CA is a one party state and has been for decades.
That’s why if it weren’t for illegal immigration, the state would be losing population. Most of which are heading to Texas.

TonyG
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 2:12 pm

And turning it into California.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 5:28 am

They govern better than the more incompetent Demoncraps. How many people did Cuomo kill with COVID-19?

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
February 18, 2021 7:13 am

A lot less than the guy living at Mar-a-Lago

Curious George
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 7:37 am

Link, please.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Curious George
February 18, 2021 8:05 am
Fran
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:38 am

Obvious Trump Derangement Syndrome.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 10:47 am

How many articles has the lancet been forced to retract because they let their progressive politics interfere so far?

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 11:09 am

Irrelevant

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 1:57 pm

So the fact that the Lancet has no credibility left is irrelevant?

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:14 pm

“Irrelevant”.

.

Yes, your comments and the Lancet propaganda-puke-piece are totally IRRELEVANT to reality, common decency and honesty.

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fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:12 pm

Show us where Trump order Covid patients into old people’s homes, bettie !

You are an EMPTY sock, as always . !

All of the “key messages” are a load of socialist CRAP-TALK.

It was the DEMOCRATS that politicized Covid-19 It was their main tool from the word go

Trump did NOTHING to hasten global warming, again a far-left anti-science opinion based on failed conjectures

All the other statement are also based solely on ultra-left ideology.

This Lancet piece of ULTRA-LEFT/SOCIALIST propaganda puke should be flushed down the nearest porcelain receptacle forthwith.

MarkW
Reply to  Curious George
February 18, 2021 8:06 am

If she has any, it will be to an editorialist somewhere whining about how evil Republicans are.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 8:14 am

Hello Mr. Stalker

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 10:44 am

As near as I can tell, miss bethan defines a stalker as anyone who responds to her posts on an open forum.
Yes, she is that dumb.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 11:10 am

You reply to ALL of my posts….

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MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 1:58 pm

irrelevant

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:17 pm

All of your posts are totally moronic and need to be corrected.

Stop being such a “victim”, its PATHETIC.

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:16 pm

Poor little cry-baby, constantly yapping mindlessly, the having a victimisation tantrum when people tell it to get a brain and stop its whimpering.

DonM
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 9:51 am

Mark, when was the last time you had a person show up at your house and call you a stalker?

(and, the sad part … It really would like to have Its’ own personal stalker so It can feel important)

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  DonM
February 18, 2021 10:04 am

This blog is not MarkW’s “house”

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 10:42 am

It’s not yours either.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 11:13 am

Thank you for helping me straighten out Mr. DomM

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 9:21 pm

bethy on a good day !!!

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bethy on a bad day !!!

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Lrp
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 12:14 pm

In a sense it is, when comparing his presence here with yours. Mark’s postings here are mostly informative and helpful, while you just come here with no thoughts of your own at all, just propaganda and disruptions.

MarkW
Reply to  Lrp
February 18, 2021 1:58 pm

I’ve also been posting here for years.

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:17 pm

You make moronic comment, don’t expect them to be left standing

Now STOP YOUR PATHETIC WHINGING !!

DonM
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 19, 2021 2:50 pm

My reply was to Mark.

Leave me alone, quit bothering me you silly stalker.

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MarkW
Reply to  DonM
February 18, 2021 10:44 am

Notice how bethan has once again changed the subject.
More proof that even she knows she is lying.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 11:13 am

I didn’t change the subject Mr. Stalker

DonM
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 1:37 pm

You don’t have a stalker. The sad poor recesses of your mind may fantasize about it … but you don’t have one.

(mebbe it isn’t even the sad poor cobwebbed recesses; mebbe it is outright daydreaming oboot such attention, for lack of any other attention?)

TonyG
Reply to  DonM
February 18, 2021 2:14 pm

Anyone who publicly posts their email address so much is definitely seeking attention.

fred250
Reply to  TonyG
February 18, 2021 8:18 pm

“definitely seeking attention.”

.

Its street-corner style attention-seeking as well !!

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DonM
Reply to  TonyG
February 19, 2021 2:54 pm

My guess is that it wants you to email it so it can compile a list of ‘undesirables’ that it can then attempt to harm.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 1:58 pm

The first attempt at changing the subject failed, so she tries again.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:05 am

What exactly did Trump do wrong? Just because your religious leaders told you that anyone who isn’t a progressive is evil, doesn’t make it true.

When Trump sealed the border, your Democrats, including St. Joe, declared that this was xenophobic over reaction. Yet now those same Democrats are declaring that Trump was too slow in closing the borders.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 10:18 am

What exactly did Trump do wrong?”
Be quicker to list what he did right.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 18, 2021 10:43 am

Best economy in 50 years, lowest unemployment in 50 years.
Ending foreign wars. Peace in the middle east.
The list goes on and on, but like most progressives, you prefer to concentrate on imaginary flaws.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 11:20 am

The economy grew much more and faster in the 1950’s than during Trump’s administration (the fact you dodge with your 50-year qualification) . Trump left office with three million less people working than when he started. The wars in Syria, Libya and Yemen continue.

He set a record for the most lies told by a president ever.

He was impeached twice.

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bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 11:27 am

Senator McConnell was right.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 7:08 pm

I saw a poll of Republicans today and Trump had a 75 percent approval rating, and Mitch McConnell had an approval rating of 15 percent.

Mitch should have kept his mouth shut.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 19, 2021 1:17 am

Why? Isn’t doing the right thing more important than being popular.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Simon
February 19, 2021 2:24 pm

You are assuming things not in evidence when you say McConnell was doing the right thing.

McConnell’s motives are suspect. His aim may not be to do the right thing at all.

Criticizing Trump may not be the right thing.

We’ll see after all the investigations are over whether Mitch has a real bitch or is playing politics.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 19, 2021 10:18 am

I saw the latest Politico poll today and Trump’s approval rating is up about 18 percent from their last poll to 81 percent approval by Republicans.

I bet Politico didn’t like that outcome.

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bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 12:03 pm

More Americans died from the Trump virus than died in World War 2

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 2:04 pm

The Trump virus? Has your last functioning brain cell finally shorted out?
So much hatred, so little intelligence. The perfect progressive.

BobM
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 6:31 pm

Not true.

US total deaths (not just KIA) from WW II were about 419,000 in total.

US Covid deaths recorded by January 20th were about 416,000, fewer, not more, and the Flu seems to have been eradicated. Deaths from auto accidents are way down, as are every category of non-medical mortality encountered in normal life, except drug overdose and suicide. A 20 year old male is ten times more likely to die in a car accident than from Covid. But what is your point? Heart Disease kills about 660,000. Every year.

Here’s an interesting statistic:
Since March 16th, the week when total US Covid deaths first topped 100, total cases first topped 5,000, and new cases first topped 1,000 in a day, there have been an average of 1,342 deaths per day during the Trump Administration, and 2,983 deaths per day in the Biden Administration, despite the masks and the entirety of the non-existent “Plan” he ran on. Hmmm. The Biden virus is twice as deadly.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 7:09 pm

You mean the Wuhan virus, don’t you?

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:24 pm

Wasn’t Trumps virus..

You are living in your own pathetic little FANTASY attention seeking victim-land as always,

You poor jealous, hateful anti-fact leftist flotsam

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 19, 2021 10:20 am

“More Americans died from the Trump virus than died in World War 2”

As far as I know, the Trump Derangement Syndrom virus is not fatal, although it may drive some people insane.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 2:03 pm

The 50’s were good because during the 40’s, the Allies and the Axis powers bombed most of the civilized world back to the stone age.
The US was supplying the goods that the rest of the world was using to rebuild. A unique situation that isn’t likely to repeat.
Are you really as ignorant as your posts make you seem.
The losses were due to the economic restrictions that Democrat governors forced on their populations.

I see you still buy into the claim that any statement a progressive disagrees with is a lie.

Nutty Nancy, using proven lies, got a bunch of hyper partisan Democrats to vote for impeachment. Big deal.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
February 19, 2021 10:25 am

“The 50’s were good because during the 40’s, the Allies and the Axis powers bombed most of the civilized world back to the stone age.”

Good point. Some people forget that.

Maybe they were never taught that in the first place, considering the destructive state of our socialist education system today.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 2:57 pm

“The wars in Syria, Libya and Yemen continue.”

That has nothing to do with Trump. Trump was not involved in Libya, that was Hillary’s war, and Trump’s involvement with Yemen was to supply Saudi Arabia with the means to fight off the Yemeni, Iranian-backed rebels. Traitor Biden reversed this policy recently, in keeping with his favoring of the terrorist nation, Iran, over U.S. allies in the Middle East.

And after Trump destroyed the Caliphate in Syria and Iraq, he brought the troops home. Mission accomplished! Don’t be surprised if the Caliphate comes back from the dead. Now that Biden is in Office, the terrorists will think they have a free pass, like they did the last time, Biden and Obama were in Office.

“He set a record for the most lies told by a president ever.”

Well, that depends on who you ask. I would say that Trump’s statements were the most distorted statements by a Leftwing Media ever. If you listen to the Leftwing Media, you will never know what Trump actually said.

“He was impeached twice.”

Only because the Democrats feel free to abuse their political power. Trump was acquitted twice, and there has never been any evidence presented against him that has stuck.

If the Republicans won control of the House of Representatives in 2022, then if they were as ruthless and immoral as the Democrats, they could set about the impeachment of both President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. And since they have the majority of votes, they could pass the impeachment.

Would you offer the fact that they were impeached as evidence of their guilt? I doubt it. You would say it is purely political. And that’s what I say about the two impeachments of Trump.

Nancy Pelosi ought to be the one to be impeached. She has abused her power at every turn, and is the worst kind of politician and the most dangerous kind of politician because she has no morals. Power is her God and she goes after it with everything she has and morality does not figure into her plans. We need to retire her in 2022. I would prefer jailing her, but retirement would do.

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fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:22 pm

“He was impeached twice.”

.

by a bunch of RABID LEFTISTS WHO COULDN’T ABIDE HIS SUCCESS

They LIED and CORRUPTED and FABRICATED the whole load of JUNK they failed to impeach with.

There was NEVER ANY EVIDENCE and they knew it.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
February 19, 2021 1:15 am

You were talking about covid.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Simon
February 18, 2021 11:14 am

Good one there Simon

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:25 pm

bethy finaly gets the low-life boyfriend it is so desperate to find.

fred250
Reply to  Simon
February 18, 2021 8:20 pm

So slimy cannot post one thing

Didn’t think so.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:01 am

Like most progressives, bethan expects the chief executive to operate like a dictator. She actually believes that the governor of a state runs everything directly.
Beyond that, she continues to refuse to see how federal regulations muck up the workings of a state.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2021 8:16 am

The grid in Texas avoids federal regulation by not interconnecting across state lines.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:56 am

“By not crossing state lines, the power grid is in most respects not subject to federal (Federal Energy Regulatory Commission) regulation.

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Interconnection

Bob boder
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 10:29 am

Since winters don’t exist any more what’s the problem

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 10:46 am

That’s not the only set of regulations that impact power generation.

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 8:27 pm

ROFLMAO.

As you say. “not subject to federal regulation.”

Gees you are the DUMBEST AGW stooge yet !!

Your comments remain totally irrelevant

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 10:45 am

Last time I checked, the EPA’s power doesn’t stop at the Texas border.
bethan is actually stupid enough to believe that electric utility regulations are the only ones that matter here.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 18, 2021 9:39 am

What is the optimum concentration of carbon dioxide in Earth’s atmosphere?

Tom in Florida
February 18, 2021 5:16 am

Again we must pick up the chant:
Warmer is better, Warmer is better

Sent from the central west coast of Florida where it is 73F at 8:14 AM going to 80F today.
Warmer is certainly better!

DonM
Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 18, 2021 9:59 am

I looked at a home outside of Prineville yesterday … asked my standard, “Did you find somewhere better to move to … this is pretty nice”

“Too cold here. I didn’t know the winters would be like this.” (typical of about 20% of the answers)

She is driving to Florida as soon as she signs the paperwork to sell.

Cold sucks (even more) when you get old.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 18, 2021 11:10 am

I think they were chanting at ERCOT when they made this winter temp prediction.

Seasonal Updates (ercot.com)

bonbon
February 18, 2021 5:19 am

Odd that the quintessential Blue State, CA, and that Red State, TX, have dug themselves into an energy black hole. CA last summer, TX this winter.

So GOP, DEM, in a death dance called deregulation. Anyone even dare mention ENRON ?

It is laughable to bring up various foreign dictators, and fail to see, shivering Red or sweating Blue, the unquestionable belief in the magic of the markets.

Well, such magic has conjured up a real wreck.

Where does this belief in magic come from, decades of full spectrum brainwashing, even before Fakebook, Twatter?

mkelly
Reply to  bonbon
February 18, 2021 6:39 am

I don’t think “deregulation” was at bottom of this. Too much regulation is more likely. When states pass laws that require utilities to purchase the power generated by wind mills, require utilities to have a certain per cent of their electricity by renewables, and give special tax/zoning breaks for renewables that not deregulation.

Personally, I think T Boone Pickens is the root cause of this. He lobbied for this years ago.

starzmom
Reply to  mkelly
February 18, 2021 8:45 am

I think you are right about T. Boone Pickens. Unfortunately he is not around to blame anymore. But he only did what the regulators encouraged by their policies.

bonbon
Reply to  bonbon
February 18, 2021 8:58 am

No it was dirty Dick Cheney, of Haliburton and Iraq war infamy. Trump rightly did declare Dick”s war to be the greatest mistake of the US ever, yet did not directly go after deregulation. He did campaign on Glass-Steagall and look at the assault he received.
Go after this insane belief that the magic markets will deliver power, or either freeze now and boil soon in the summer. What is that crazy belief worth?
The Ranch at the Crooked E, ENRON, did not disappear after its legendary bankruptcy.

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Jim Whelan
Reply to  bonbon
February 18, 2021 12:01 pm

California never did any “DE-regulation”. They just traded one kind of regulation for another. Like most liberal terminology the branding was the opposite of what was being done.

Jan de Jong
February 18, 2021 5:25 am

One actually gets to pay for electricity 3 times:

  • the ‘renewable’ circus
  • unreliable backup for the circus
  • private backup
Charlie
February 18, 2021 5:29 am

Time for Texas to circle back to reliable energy.

Barnes Moore
February 18, 2021 5:30 am

Reading other articles about the TX grid failure, and the comments to those articles, one takeaway is that it was primarily due to not being properly hardened for the bitter cold – and as one person on Twitter noted, that is by design given how the TX electricity market is set up. Another person commented that one factor in this fiasco was that TX shut down a number of coal plants over the last few years in favor of wind turbines which effectively reduced their reserve capacity and without the reserve capacity, the frequency fluctuations are what caused some nuclear and other plants to trip and go off line. Wind turbines and gas plants in other frigid climates still do work when the temperature drops to the levels TX is experiencing now. So, while I think inserting unreliable energy sources, like wind turbines, at any level in our grid is idiotic, I also think the picture in TX is more complex than simply saying wind turbines failed. There are a lot of smart people who understand how grids work that read this blog – at least that is my perception. Can anyone provide any insight re: all the factors that contributed to the outages?

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observa
Reply to  Barnes Moore
February 18, 2021 5:59 am

Here let me help you with a look at Australia’s typical wind energy output for the AEMO interconnected grid-Wind Energy in Australia | February 2021 | Aneroid
If you pass your cursor over those peaks and troughs you’ll notice the variation in output from 4.5% to 54.6% of installed nameplate capacity covering the States shown. I’d suggest to you that you wouldn’t want a car that ran like that when you wanted to cruise along the highway.

So what happens is enthusiasts like to point to that average 30-35% over a year and exclaim isn’t that marvellous while skeptics think what are they smoking as that aint no way to keep the lights on. So let’s see where the ejumacated enthusiasts are coming from defending that sort of crazy output-
Fact Check: Is Green Energy to Blame for Texas’ Power Outages? (msn.com)

In particular notice the pea and thimble trick with the averages-

“Wind energy provides only about 25 percent of Texas’ total power throughout the year, according to ERCOT data—natural gas sources account for 35 percent—although the turbines tend to generate less power in the winter.
The Texas Tribune reported that only 7 percent of ERCOT’s forecasted winter capacity was expected to come from wind power sources in the state. Meanwhile, around 80 percent of ERCOT’s total winter capacity is generated by natural gas, coal and nuclear power.”

There’s a cautionary tale with lies damned lies and statistics that the average adult has one large breast and a testicle.

Barnes Moore
Reply to  observa
February 18, 2021 6:36 am

Thanks – Alex Epstein has provided similar charts for unreliables in Germany (I generally refuse to call them renewable). What a mess – and it illustrates, to me anyway, how bad the situation will become as more unreliables are put into the grid without sufficient reserve capacity to smooth out the intermittency issues. From other articles I’ve read, it looks like the massive battery arrays are used largely for that purpose and provide no actual backup power.

Lrp
Reply to  Barnes Moore
February 18, 2021 12:28 pm

As an example; the Australian grids needs on average a minimum of 20GW over, say, 10 hours of non-productive wind and solar hours, which translates in a 200GWh backup battery capacity.

Megs
Reply to  Barnes Moore
February 18, 2021 1:15 pm

Ther are a few names that I don’t like to use in reference to the ‘green’ industry Barnes. Green is one of them. Anyone who knows anything about the dirty processes and the extensive thermal requirements would know that green doesn’t fit. ‘Clean’ doesn’t fit for the same reasons.

They like to call them ‘farms’, as though they produce a useful amount of energy. Where’s the round-up? Same with ‘plants’. Makes them sound organic.

‘Sustainability Park’, how funny is that one. As though raping the planet globally of raw materials every 15 to 25 years to replace this useless technology is somehow sustainable.

They are at least being honest by calling them ‘renewables’, after all they do actually need to be renewed on a regular basis. That’s the only promise they can keep.

observa
Reply to  Barnes Moore
February 18, 2021 4:04 pm

 “it looks like the massive battery arrays are used largely for that purpose and provide no actual backup power.”

Well they’re just part of the subsidy mining to try and fix the problem the unreliables created in the first place. Take the unicorn Tesla Big Battery connected to the Hornsdale wind farm in South Australia when the Labor Govt with an election in the offing was panicking there’d be blackouts with summer coming and our aircon peak load time. I say unicorn because that’s what the tame media gushed over while they also installed 9 diesel generators that could consume 80,000L/hr of diesel.

So what does the Tesla battery do bearing in mind when fully charged it’s estimated to only provide enough power for 30,000 homes for an hour. Well what those peaks and troughs of wind power output don’t show is what frequency and voltage is being contributed but just raw reactive power. So now what the Tesla battery does is make a motzah providing FCAS to grid and it does that by sucking in power from the grid when prices are low (or even negative would you believe) and pumps it out when they’re high no matter what the connected wind farm is doing.

In other words these batteries are simply creaming off the top of an increasingly unreliable grid as you add more wind and solar but there’s a fallacy of composition going on here. What about when there’s only wind and solar? There’s a fundamental axiom of engineering that you can’t make a reliable system from unreliable componentry but these airheads are trying to disprove it. You can see their failure writ large every time they roll out the diesel generators and the Biden Administration is no different here.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Barnes Moore
February 18, 2021 9:59 am

Another person commented that one factor in this fiasco was that TX shut down a number of coal plants over the last few years in favor of wind turbines which effectively reduced their reserve capacity and without the reserve capacity, the frequency fluctuations are what caused some nuclear and other plants to trip and go off line.

DING DING DING! We have a winner!

Rely on coal, and the lights (and heat, and water) stay on. Rely on windmills and solar panels, and you’re freezing in the dark with no water.

The only real question is will the lesson penetrate the thick skulls?!

Phil.
Reply to  Barnes Moore
February 18, 2021 4:18 pm

The main source of power and heat generation in Texas, particularly during peak generation, is natural gas. The main cause of the shortfall was the lack of protection against cold weather, they do it on the cheap because they want to maximize profits and don’t care about the occasional winter problem. In states like Michigan they don’t have problems like this with their turbines, they fit them with cold weather adaptation packages that allow them to perform at -30ºC.

bluecat57
February 18, 2021 5:36 am

You’d think they would send bicycle powered ones like Gilligan used.

Peta of Newark
February 18, 2021 5:42 am

Quote:“”451: Unavailable due to legal reasonsWe recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact web@tulsaworld.com or call 918-582-0921.””

Haha ha
So much Brexit eh
Boris, You. Are. A. Clown.

Meanwhile, I’m fairly sure that UK plc quite often runs on diesel..
See the graphic here..

Never mind the numbers, note how it has a section for “Oil + OCGT” and – it lights up quite often, especially when the wind fails

Maybe Leo could enlighten if he’s around but “What is that “”Oil“”?

Mohatdebos
February 18, 2021 6:09 am

Correct me if I am wrong. Here is my understanding of what caused the power failures in Texas. Northwest Texas is the best location for wind mills when the wind is blowing. As a result, there was a rush to build windmill farms in the region with the help of huge Federal subsidies. Moreover, the Permian Basin in Northwest Texas is also home to some of the largest gas and oil deposits. However, Permian lacked pipelines to supply oil and gas to consumers in Southern Texas. In order to get permits to build pipelines, builders had to commit to using wind power for compression. (As an aside, Keystone also promised to use unreliable wind for compression in an unsuccessful attempt to persuade greenies to allow the completion of the pipeline.) Unfortunately, wind turbines froze during the current cold wave. That, in turn, cut of power to the pipelines. Thus, gas could not be delivered to power plants. This allows greenies to falsely claim that the power shortages were caused by natural gas shortages. In reality, it was a system failure because the system relied on unreliable wind power.

Russell Klier
February 18, 2021 6:13 am

I think the should have sent emergency wing turbines instead.

George
February 18, 2021 6:16 am

Diesel Generators require diesel out of storage tanks. So without electricity hand pump must be used to refill generators.
There are not enough generators in the entire US to light up outage areas in Texas.

Rick C
Reply to  George
February 18, 2021 8:56 am

No worries, they won’t be needed by the time they arrive and get hooked up. Texas will be back to normal above freezing temperatures by tomorrow. So it will be just a typical government response – all cost, no benefit.

ResourceGuy
February 18, 2021 6:19 am

We now have the first small-scale examples of the global policy fail about to unfold across the planet. It is the backfilling cost of policy that has been moving in exactly the wrong direction. Heavy spending on global warming that is subsequently found to be opposite the preparatory needs of global and regional cooling is a disaster that will rival WW2 for setting back economies, populations, and science itself. Where is that cooling coming from to cause this monumental misreading? It is from medium and long run climate cycles that have been ignored in the accelerated rush of the Climate Response Action Plan (CRAP). Also, weather begets climate over time.

DHR
February 18, 2021 6:27 am

“If the plan is to maintain enough diesel backup to keep the lights on when renewables fail, renewables will never be affordable.”

That is already the plan, except using gas, coal and nuclear as the backup, and perhaps occasional diesels. And yes, is is very expensive to maintain a fully-capable back up power system. We get one power system for the price of two.

Gordon A. Dressler
February 18, 2021 6:38 am

Sic transit gloria mundi.

observa
February 18, 2021 6:40 am

Dear Genny. Please pass on to oily Joe-

The eyes of Texas are upon you All the livelong day The eyes of Texas are upon you You cannot get away. Do not think you can escape them By rising so early in the morn. The eyes of Texas are upon you ’til Gabriel blows his horn.

Joel O’Bryan
February 18, 2021 6:54 am

The media is trying to gas-light the public about Raggedy Ann’s reputation for lying and then trying to cover it up.
see this:
https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/01/20/nbc-fake-news-lies-about-psakis-great-reputation-omit-manipulated-presser-video/

Quick recap:
In 2013 Foxnews reporter James Rosen caught then State Dept spokesperson Psaki lying about Iran negotiations and questioned her on it at an official State press briefing. The official State Dept video was later edited and that 8 minute segment was deleted from official video transcript. FOIA inquiries showed the order to delete the 8 minutes came from Psaki’s office to the State Dept IT media operations. Very Orwellian, sending unfavorable stuff to the memory hole and gas lighting the public about it.

She’s a proven liar and tried to cover it up. Like Susan Rice, the willingness to lie is considered an asset in the Biden-Harris-Obama Admin. No doubt she’ll try it again if the “need” arises.

griff
February 18, 2021 6:56 am

But renewables didn’t fail: gas plant did. Uninspected gas plant. Gas plant that Texas was warned needed winterisation.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
February 18, 2021 8:08 am

Once again, the facts contradict what griff wants to believe.

Curious George
Reply to  griff
February 18, 2021 8:10 am

Wind did not provide expected 20 GW. Nor did the backup power source. Clearly, it is the backup’s fault.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
February 18, 2021 8:14 am

Since I can’t paste in the chart, I will list the data points.

Source: U.S. EIA

Change in Power Output February 8-16, 12 AM (% chg, MWH)

Wind -93%
Coal +47%
Gas +450%
Nuclear -26%

The values from the chart in MWH are approx. as follows.

Wind -19,800 MWH
Coal +2,500 MWH
Gas +24,700 MWH
Nuclear -1,000 MWH

ResourceGuy
Reply to  ResourceGuy
February 18, 2021 2:54 pm

Griff,

Tell me where I’m wrong or where EIA data is wrong. I really want to know your data and source for similar multi-day period information. The press is taking your side on this story so tell me what I’m missing.

Griff?? CNN? NPR?? troll-land??

Reply to  griff
February 18, 2021 8:59 am

As usual a comment far away from reality….

Meab
Reply to  griff
February 18, 2021 9:05 am

griff is lying again. Unreliable renewables DID fail. What obviously happened is Texas spent too much money on unreliable renewables and not enough on reliable, dispatchable backup. Obvious to anyone with half a brain.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  griff
February 18, 2021 9:09 am

And it was the Board of Directors, Democrat Greenies all, in charge of the ERCOT that decided to spend the money on wind/solar rather then winterization. Just one more unintended consequence of wind/solar caused by Democrat Greenies that are politicians and not engineers.

Lrp
Reply to  griff
February 18, 2021 12:29 pm

Liar!

fred250
Reply to  griff
February 18, 2021 8:29 pm

Poor griff, FACTS AND DATA mean NOTHING to you do they

Just make up your own little NON-REALITY as you go.

Wind and solar collapsed nearly COMPLETELY

THANK GOODNESS FOR ALL THAT GAS POWERED ELECTRICITY

LdB
Reply to  griff
February 19, 2021 8:56 am

Griff failed again 🙂

Caught in yet another outright lie.

max
February 18, 2021 7:08 am

Well, I think you could power a suburban block with one, if you kept usage to a minimum, how many thousand are they sending?

max
Reply to  max
February 18, 2021 7:11 am

I should also say, I was thinking of semi-trailer sized generators. If they decide on home usage sized units, it will take about 1 per four households.

rah
Reply to  max
February 18, 2021 2:03 pm

Those things sure suck down the diesel fuel. Used on before for a job.

Terry
February 18, 2021 7:23 am

And there will only be electric cars sold after 2030. Get me some of what they smoke!

fretslider
February 18, 2021 7:25 am

Who is winning the race to the bottom?

The dirty secret of Britain’s power madness: Polluting diesel generators built in secret by foreign companies to kick in when there’s no wind for turbines – and other insane but true eco-scandals

Thousands of dirty diesel generators are being secretly prepared all over Britain to provide emergency back-up to prevent the National Grid collapsing when wind power fails.

And under the hugely costly scheme, the National Grid is set to pay up to 12 times the normal wholesale market rate for the electricity they generate.
The dirty secret of Britain’s power madness: Polluting diesel generators built in secret by foreign companies to kick in when there’s no wind for turbines – and other insane but true eco-scandals | Daily Mail Online

Fortunately, we haven’t lost power yet. But it’s only a matter of time.

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Curious George
February 18, 2021 7:42 am

Freezing to death is a great way to save the planet. Repeat 7 billion times.

Jim D
Reply to  Curious George
February 18, 2021 2:40 pm

According to NPR, it isn’t the wind power. Everything froze. Including the coal plants and the nuclear. Why do I not believe them???

CorchMed
February 18, 2021 8:27 am

When ideal meets real.

starzmom
February 18, 2021 8:49 am

The Democrats own this one. Policies pushed by Dems for years are the root cause. And Biden hasn’t a clue how to fix it, either short term or long term. Maybe this can be the defining event of his presidency.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  starzmom
February 18, 2021 9:45 am

He has ordered a supply chain study of batteries, semis, and REE. That will fix it. /sarc

Rhee
February 18, 2021 8:54 am

Couldn’t the WH just deliver more sunshine?

Doonman
February 18, 2021 9:29 am

For the first time in my life, I bought a portable gas generator and now store 20 gallons of gasoline in my garage for just such an occasion. This is not because of climate change, but due to climate change mitigation, which has turned our state into a third world electrical grid of unstable and intermittent power distribution. Be prepared yourself, because the government isn’t as has been clearly demonstrated recently time and time again.

Paul Penrose
February 18, 2021 10:20 am

I’m sure those generators will get there by the weekend – just as the grid is restored. Thanks President Biden. /sarc

OK S.
February 18, 2021 10:24 am

If they were serious about helping, they would send some of those little nuclear power plants from the strategic submarine reserve. A dozen or so for the bigger cities should be about right.

rah
February 18, 2021 12:34 pm

If any Republican President had moved at the snails pace Biden has on sending Federal relief in this situation the press would have started to crucify him/her long ago.

Phil.
Reply to  rah
February 18, 2021 6:41 pm

You don’t think sending it on the 14th as soon as the governor asked was quick enough?
“I thank President Biden for quickly issuing a Federal Emergency Declaration for Texas as we continue to respond to severe winter weather conditions throughout the state,” said Governor Abbott. “This disaster declaration provides Texas with additional resources and assistance that will help our communities respond to this winter weather.”

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Phil.
February 19, 2021 5:02 am

What did he send? Portable diesel generators that won’t be needed by the time they arrive? It’s just one more perfect example of how idiotic government can be. He should have been dispatching copper pipe and drywall to repair all the damage from frozen pipes. It would be a *LOT* more useful than portable generators sitting on pallets somewhere.

Steve45
February 18, 2021 12:55 pm

Except it wasn’t just renewables failing was it? More fake news.

Steve Reddish
Reply to  Steve45
February 18, 2021 7:33 pm

When the renewables were installed reliable coal was reduced. Had coal still been running there would have been plenty of backup. NG output actually increased. It just was insufficient increase. One reason is that wind powers the compressors to move gas from the permian basin.

fred250
Reply to  Steve45
February 18, 2021 8:31 pm

THANK GOODNESS THERE WAS SO MUCH GAS.

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fred250
Reply to  Steve45
February 18, 2021 8:32 pm

yes , your comments are invariable FAKE, FAKE, FAKE.

terry
February 18, 2021 1:30 pm

If nothing else THIS SHOULD PROVE that biden is the biggest idiot America has ever seen. There are reasons why this moron was never elected as a President and had to steal the election. biden is the original can’t fix stupid.

terry
February 18, 2021 1:34 pm

I would NEVER donate one cent to this site because they censor the truth.

Steve Reddish
Reply to  terry
February 18, 2021 7:38 pm

What got censured?

fred250
Reply to  terry
February 18, 2021 8:34 pm

“they censor the truth.

.

More BS. … Are you another victimised leftist SJW??

What got censored?

chemman
February 18, 2021 2:33 pm

By the time the generators get there the storm will have passed.

john
February 18, 2021 2:44 pm

Presented without comment 🤣

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Phil.
Reply to  john
February 18, 2021 6:36 pm

Actually Minnesota. 😉

Mickey Reno
February 18, 2021 3:34 pm

Jen, send them 5 good HELE coal plants, and a lot of dynamite to blow up the unsightly wind turbines.

Independent
February 18, 2021 5:59 pm

Arrest the fake president’s fake administration’s climate criminals! How could they even consider poisoning the air with CO2 to save a few humans, who only destroy the environment anyway?

(/heavy sarc for the sarc-impaired)

RickWill
February 18, 2021 7:49 pm

There are usually floating power plants moored around the globe to supply power to third world countries. Maybe Texas can get a few of the idle ones to dock in Texas to get the lights back on.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  RickWill
February 19, 2021 10:37 am

I saw a funny headline today which is pertinent to your comment:

Headline: Chinese military Cancels Program Targeting US Infrasturcture After Intelligence Reveals There’s Nothing To Attack

Breakingburgh.com

The Chicoms are having a lot of fun over the problems in Texas. Enjoy it while it lasts, Xi. China’s upcoming Olympic games will be boycotted. Laugh that off.

Joe
February 19, 2021 2:32 am

But, but,,,fossil fuels are evil! We are in a crisis with only a few years to spare before we are all doomed, doomed! How can Uncle Joe betray us by sending global warming causing generators? Oh..the horror!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joe
February 19, 2021 10:39 am

John Kerry said the other day that we only had nine more years before Climate Disaster. Ole Joe sending these fossil fuel generators to Texas will probably lop six months off the time we have left!

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