Guest “Excel-lent!” by David Middleton
What happens if you crossplot the “lockdown” rating of the Lower 48 states and DC with the COVID-19 infection rate?
To the extent there is a correlation, the states with the tightest lockdowns have the highest infection rates. Alaska and Hawaii were the only states ranking in the top 10 most aggressive lockdowns that didn’t have high infection rates. They are also isolated relative to the contiguous United States.
But, but, but… Correlation is not causation! States could have locked down more tightly in response to the infections! The lockdown rating was as of April 6, 2020 and the infection data are as of May 11, 2020.
Data Sources
Worldometer. WORLD / COUNTRIES / UNITED STATES. Last updated: May 11, 2020
| State | Lockdown Rating | Total Cases/1M | Deaths/1M | Deaths % of pop. |
| New York | 1 | 17,755 | 1,378 | 0.14% |
| District of Columbia | 2 | 8,887 | 458 | 0.05% |
| Alaska | 3 | 518 | 14 | 0.00% |
| Hawaii | 4 | 446 | 12 | 0.00% |
| New Jersey | 5 | 15,763 | 1,043 | 0.10% |
| Rhode Island | 6 | 10,642 | 398 | 0.04% |
| Washington | 7 | 2,313 | 122 | 0.01% |
| Massachusetts | 8 | 11,287 | 722 | 0.07% |
| New Hampshire | 9 | 2,259 | 98 | 0.01% |
| West Virginia | 10 | 760 | 30 | 0.00% |
| Minnesota | 11 | 1,999 | 102 | 0.01% |
| Vermont | 12 | 1,486 | 85 | 0.01% |
| Maryland | 13 | 5,390 | 272 | 0.03% |
| Connecticut | 14 | 9,411 | 832 | 0.08% |
| Delaware | 15 | 6,621 | 230 | 0.02% |
| Louisiana | 16 | 6,797 | 492 | 0.05% |
| Maine | 17 | 1,068 | 48 | 0.00% |
| California | 18 | 1,719 | 69 | 0.01% |
| Pennsylvania | 19 | 4,691 | 299 | 0.03% |
| Ohio | 20 | 2,060 | 115 | 0.01% |
| Indiana | 21 | 3,584 | 224 | 0.02% |
| Montana | 22 | 429 | 15 | 0.00% |
| Illinois | 23 | 6,135 | 269 | 0.03% |
| Idaho | 24 | 1,248 | 37 | 0.00% |
| Oregon | 25 | 765 | 30 | 0.00% |
| Wisconsin | 26 | 1,755 | 69 | 0.01% |
| Tennessee | 27 | 2,194 | 36 | 0.00% |
| South Carolina | 28 | 1,486 | 64 | 0.01% |
| Georgia | 29 | 3,187 | 132 | 0.01% |
| Kansas | 30 | 2,387 | 60 | 0.01% |
| Colorado | 31 | 3,421 | 169 | 0.02% |
| Missouri | 32 | 1,631 | 81 | 0.01% |
| New Mexico | 33 | 2,319 | 95 | 0.01% |
| Kentucky | 34 | 1,441 | 68 | 0.01% |
| Virginia | 35 | 2,937 | 100 | 0.01% |
| Iowa | 36 | 3,790 | 84 | 0.01% |
| North Carolina | 37 | 1,424 | 54 | 0.01% |
| North Dakota | 38 | 1,957 | 46 | 0.00% |
| Arizona | 39 | 1,528 | 74 | 0.01% |
| Michigan | 40 | 4,720 | 456 | 0.05% |
| Nevada | 41 | 1,980 | 99 | 0.01% |
| Texas | 42 | 1,376 | 39 | 0.00% |
| Utah | 43 | 1,950 | 21 | 0.00% |
| Florida | 44 | 1,890 | 80 | 0.01% |
| Mississippi | 45 | 3,192 | 144 | 0.01% |
| Arkansas | 46 | 1,329 | 30 | 0.00% |
| Wyoming | 47 | 1,144 | 12 | 0.00% |
| Alabama | 48 | 2,020 | 80 | 0.01% |
| Nebraska | 49 | 4,298 | 51 | 0.01% |
| South Dakota | 50 | 3,835 | 38 | 0.00% |
| Oklahoma | 51 | 1,160 | 69 | 0.01% |
Addendum 5/12/2020 11:04 AM CST
The population density of the 50 US states correlates fairly well with the infection rate.
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Lockdown has some effect. Results by variation in lockdown from zero to house arrest suggest small effect. Each factor by itself suggests relatively small effect. Intersections of more than a couple factors suggests increased effect. NYC had it all and did everything wrong. Got it.
Talking right past the key thing. This disease kills once in awhile, but it is not an existential threat. Until you make it one.
Lock down Australia-
Lockdowns are a panicked “instinct” reaction to a severe threat only dimly perceived.
At least 3 viral pandemic threats in 20 years, has alerted some to the danger, and more to come, as the WHI researcher warned, likely even more infectious. The Spanish flu hit a destroyed WWI economy, the Plague hit a totally collapsed European economy back in the 1340’s.
Some think that proof of no present danger is our 8 billion population now.
But ask the question, what if that population cannot be supported by the reining global economic platform, what happens if the relative potential population density of the platform drops below actual population?
It is not hard to see how we got to that level, steady increases in energy user per capita over many years, until the determined policy to break that with “controlled” destruction of the economic platform . That started in earnest in 1971, so decades of breakdown have brought us to the point of collapse. The biosphere will make up for it with Sylvatics (from the wild) using us as fuel. So from the Bretton-Woods breakup under Nixon to globalization and now an incredible insane green lurch, resulting in panic, not a clear look at policy.
Interesting that WUWT , dimly , notices some kind of connection between climate nonsense and the pandemic. That connection is there, it involves real physical economics. This pandemic has unhinged otherwise smart engineers and scientists – instead of groping blindly, instinctively, connecting-the-dots straighten up and fly right!
As Richard Feynman famously said, “If it disagrees with experiment (observation), it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It doesn’t make a difference how beautiful your guess is. It doesn’t make a difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is. If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. That’s all there is to it.”
To the extent that correlation does not equal causation, one can also say that correlation MAY be indicative of causation. If the latter be true in David Middleton’s article above, it is past time to honestly question the effectiveness of societal “lockdowns” in response to COVID-19.
“it is past time to honestly question the effectiveness of societal “lockdowns” in response to COVID-19.”
It is time to examine the Wuhan virus lockdown, now that we know something about it.
When the next unknown virus comes along, however, society will lock down again, unless we have developed the ability to nip the infection in the bud by that time.
We won’t be able to say that just because the Wuhan virus wasn’t extremely dangerous, that a new virus won’t be more deadly. So we will be able to apply some Wuhan virus lessons to a new outbreak (like not shutting down hospitals when it is unecessary), but we still have to take steps to slow the infection rate (lockdown) until we can know how infectious and deadly the new virus is.
Let’s hope the next one doesn’t come along for another 100 years, and when it comes, we are prepared for it. We will be. Much better prepared than we were for the Wuhan virus.
It’s time to get back to work now. Safely.
Infection rate based on test confirmed cases is not a good factor in judging the effectiveness of measures taken to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Testing procedures vary from state to state and within states, vary with time. I think a better metric to watch, as restrictions are being lifted, is rolling number of deaths per week per million population for each state.
You will also find that states with the wettest sidewalks have the most rain.
MarkW, in your conclusion did you also consider wet sidewalks from morning dew? Or states having cities that experience recurring heavy fog, like Maine, Washington and California? 😉
In fact the “lockdown(s)” have worked as intended. The medical delivery system was not overrun, we didn’t run out of beds, ICU beds or ventilators.
We didn’t overload the hospitals, irrespective of lockdown status.
In fact, most US hospitals are so not-overloaded that they’ve laid off large numbers of staff and some are talking about going bankrupt if the lockdowns don’t end soon.
The whole thing is insane.
Yep. Plus there are potentially massive health effects of the “elective” medical procedures that were cancelled and/or postponed.
OMG, Dave, you’re right, heavens knows what the potentially massive health effects of a deferred nose job or tummy tuck was.
“In fact, most US hospitals are so not-overloaded that they’ve laid off large numbers of staff and some are talking about going bankrupt if the lockdowns don’t end soon.”
Yes, this was one of the biggest mistakes made during the Wuhan virus crisis. They halted regular hospital activities for hospitals all over the nation, even those that had little or no Wuhan virus patients to deal with, and gained nothing by doing so. They were reserving beds for non-existent Wuhan virus patients.
The good news is over 40 U.S. states are opening up and have allowed the hospitals to resume normal operations.
These are lessons learned from the Wuhan virus mess that will stand us in good stead in the future. We learn what to do, and what not to do, in such an unprecedented crisis. It’s a learning process for all of us, including our leaders. Many mistakes will be made. It’s inevitable. But we learn from our mistakes.
The stated reason for deferring elective medical and dental procedures in Virginia was not to free up hospital beds, but to preserve stocks of PPE.
The “lockdown” was intended to flatten the curve, which it did. The flattened curve prevented the overload of the hospital system. The lockdown was successful.
The curve never grew… Not even in states with little or no lockdown measures. The only thing that was flattened was the economy.
Cart before horse? You are confusing cause and effect. The curve never rose because of the lockdown.
States with no or minimal lockdown orders didn’t experience hospital overload.
Elective procedures include things like chemotherapy, radiation treatments for cancer patients.
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928878
Organ transplants…
https://www.propublica.org/article/cancer-surgeries-and-open-transplants-are-being-put-off-for-coronavirus-can-they-wait
What success!
1.4 million healthcare workers have become unemployed in the U.S. through April. Doctor’s and dentists offices are being forced into bankruptcy along with many hospitals and clinics. Cancer and other health screenings are not being done.
It kind of looks like there are two clusters of data. The one with the trend shown and another running along the bottom with an R^2 ~ 0. Take out the second, and the R^2 of the first looks like it might go up.
Yep. Conversely, if I take out the ten states with the highest infection rate, there would be no correlation at all between infection rate and lockdown severity.
South Africa has a VERY severe lockdown, with up to a thousand arrests daily for breaking it. Despite the severity, and the curfew, and the arrests, we have 190 cases and 3 deaths per million. Now, just WHAT is that supposed to prove, except that power corrupts?
absolutely.
Similar too in Kenya! Its bollox control all the way down.
Yeah…I am not with you on this one David. I am not saying you are wrong, I am just not in agreement you are right.
There are so many confounding variables with the virus, it’s spread, and the death rate. Population density, the use of mass transport, race, sunlight, humidity, temperature, number of people tested, tests that were used, and probably several things I haven’t identified could all be mixed into the death rates. So it’s easy to plot x versus y, but not necessarily meaningful without a multivariate analysis using good data – something we will likely not have for months.
The other point I keep bringing up to people skeptical of the lock downs is that decision was made BEFORE we had any of this data. I think I am in agreement the lock downs were useless in many areas, but I also think they probably saved a lot of lives in certain high population density areas. So the lock down is a tool and we need to figure out when to use it.
Using it as a blunt instrument across the nation was likely far more damaging than helpful. Decision makers were plainly scared into the lock down across the country – they were fed worse case scenarios because no one really understood what the most likely scenarios were. I feel like people are using hindsight to criticize decision makers which I will not join in. Let’s learn our lessons and move on.
More interesting is stuff being written about this virus coming out of a lab. I was pretty much poo-pooing the idea other than an accidental meeting between an infected bat and a care taker, but now I am not so sure. The virus has some weird coincidences in it’s RNA genome that make it lethal. Stuff found in another virus studied at the research facility in Wuhan, but not in the other Corona viruses. I am now on the fence waiting for additional information to show up. I can see why the intelligence community might be suspicious.
https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748
Yep. My criticism is not specifically directed at the decision to initiate shelter in place orders. My criticism has been of the extension and tightening of these orders, moving of goalposts from hospital overload to a declining number of new cases, while they were increasing the rate of testing, and the arbitrary and capricious manner in which bureaucrats decided who got to go to work and who had to go on welfare.
Grocery stores (Albertson’s, Kroger, Tom Thumb), big box stores (Sam’s Club, Costco, Best Buy), home improvement stores (Lowes, Home Depot) and liquor stores (Spec’s, Total Wine) were allowed to stay open… Within a week or so, they all incorporated social distancing measures. Dallas County’s Fire Marshall Gump made a huge production of shutting down craft stores, like Hobby Lobby, Michael’s and JoAnne’s Fabrics, before demanding that everyone start wearing masks, homemade, if necessary… Forcing him to allow the craft stores to reopen. Restaurants, malls, movie theaters, office buildings are now being allowed to reopen with social distancing measures… Why couldn’t this have been done a month ago?
Lockdowns will not prevent anyone from getting the virus in the long run, it was all about “flattening the curve” on the false premise that if you do not mandate lockdowns that the virus would sustain an exponential growth rate and we’d already have millions of deaths. Let me repeat, along with many others for the millionth time, all the data shows that mandated quarantines had no impact on the spread of the disease. Places with the most lax quarantine policies, where they went to school and work and everything, did not show the ridiculously erroneous growth rate that the charlatans warned about.
That’s not strictly true. For example, both Australia and New Zealand acted early enough that their lock downs prevented general spread of the virus and to this point has likely saved thousands of lives for the time being.
Will that last? What happens from here with no vaccine? Nobody knows.
In the Land of the Long White Cloud we wouldn’t have much of a clue about anything because there has been no testing for who may have had COVID-19 previously. Where we and Aussie have an advantage is that it is relatively easy to lock down our borders. We’ve had 21 deaths but the regular flu averages around the five hundred mark.
Quite frankly I think that the world has gone insane. Why these days are we trying to stop Darwin’s theory from working with this lockdown and the way OSH behaves. These days there are quite a few jobs I won’t do because of OSH’s stupid dictates.
Saved thousands of lives…? Couldn’t you squeeze a few more angels onto the head of that pin?
Unless you have evidence that the HEALTHCARE CAPACITY WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN EXCEEDED in Australia and New Zealand?
Because that’s the whole plot of flatten-the-curve, y’know: Same total number of infected, less burden on the system.
Why do people keep forgetting that? It’s really not that complicated.
You misunderstand what Australia and New Zealand achieved. They didn’t just flatten the curve, they (all but) eliminated the virus from those countries.
<blockqiuote<Same total number of infected, less burden on the system.</blockquote<
Maybe eventually if Australia and NZ need to allow the virus to spread because there is no vaccine and simply no other choice …but not today.
Thanks. David for the excellent post.
I know this is off topic. Did any one see: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1232974/coronavirus-china-virus-pandemic-WHO, Nathan Rao 1/25/2020, solar minimum, cosmic radiation and the threat of pandemic? Please excuse me if this article is already old hat on WUWT. Is the article reasonable scientific speculation or narrative control propaganda? There has been so much talk about SARS CoV chimeras and accidental release of the virus etc. I am not a scientist and unaware of correlations between pandemics and solar minimums, (increased cosmic radiation events). It seems any association would be vaguely understood at best.
Martin Armstrong recently wrote:
“This next solar cycle will be turning toward global cooling which may be the lowest solar minimum in over 200 years. That means our model is also warning a decline in crops and a rise in disease.” https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/the-disease-cycle-turned-up-next-peak-2022/
He uses his highly accurate AI system [based on pi].
Each individual has to make a decision as to what is going on.
And reasonable individuals can come to different conclusions.
Why?
1. Because different individuals have different thresholds of risk they are willing to accept.
2. Because there is so much conflicting information & data.
But what I find inexcusable in all this is the consistent deception BY OMISSION.
The MSM media has been guilty of OMISSION (Watts Up With That?, by contrast, has been covering the whole waterfront.)
It seems the “powers that be” had to have their lock down. They used unmitigated FEAR: remember at the beginning of this panic, they said two million would die in the U.S. and people literally would be “dropping in the streets dead” — That never happened.
We had “to flatten the curve” to save the medical system from collapse — sans New York City, that never happened.
Then, we had to “save every life” so the lock downs continued.
Goal post moving has been a consistent theme.
I’m sorry, we can’t save every life — life must go on in spite of death.
People die in old folks homes, that what they do.
Yes, protect the old folks homes and let the fearful stay in their homes in self-isolation.
But for the intrepid, the defiant, the bold, let us support ourselves and our families.
END the lock downs. and let Americans be who we are:
Risk takers for generations who made the greatest country on earth by taking chances.
Milk toast didn’t make this country great.
David
The argument has sometimes been made that gun control leads to higher rates of gun violence. To support the claim, it is pointed out that those states with the most restrictive laws with regard to owning guns have the highest rates of firearm homicide. Of course, the counter argument is that the states with the most criminal activity are desperate to do something about it, and enact draconian laws. It becomes a chicken and egg problem.
Similarly, the correlation you demonstrate may reflect regions with high rates of infection that are panicked into doing anything to try to suppress it.
The question is whether strict lockdowns are counterproductive and if societies would be better off just relying on social distancing. I have yet to see a compelling argument that lockdowns are even better than voluntary social distancing.
” I have yet to see a compelling argument that lockdowns are even better than voluntary social distancing.”
I am afraid there will be no definitive answer to that. Highly dependent what that means in different cultures. At least in France and Italy lockdowns were increased in enforcement because people were not cooperating. Germany to some extent as well. I didn’t follow Spain so no idea about there. But even Swedes were threatened that bars and restaurants will close if people would not follow the guidelines.
The lockdowns will end when the unemployment checks stop due to fund depletion.
The socialist argument, and this is a real argument being made, is that you never run out of money because you can just print more. I’m serious, this has actually been stated in several leftist MSM (but I repeat myself) rags. They use this as an argument for just borrowing more money too, claiming that conservative policies to reduce borrowing are a bad idea.
It’s like they’ve forgotten economics 101 (that’s actually being generous, as they never learned it to begin with it). Money (even fiat money) has value because it supposedly represents something: The labor of the people in the economy. Infinitely printed money has no such value because it doesn’t even try to represent anything.
While you can get away with printing money (even large amounts of it) under certain circumstance, short term, – mainly when deflationary forces are offsetting the inherently inflationary aspects of money printing (such as were experiences during the 2008-2009 financial crisis and the current pandemic) – it’s not sustainable in the long run. Eventually the piper will get his due and then you’ll find yourself somewhere between the 1970s style high inflation (at best) and Weimar republic style hyper inflation – if not the total collapse of the economy and civilization as we know it in the absolute worse case.
But, but, but… Correlation is not causation! States could have locked down more tightly in response to the infections! The lockdown rating was as of April 6, 2020 and the infection data are as of May 11, 2020.
Overlooking the smart-ass tone, the “correlation is not causation” argument still holds. On April 6, some governors, particularly those with densely populated cities, may well have realized that they were in trouble and thus took strong measures. Infection rates are like oil tankers. Once they’ve got up a head of steam it takes a while to turn them around.
Correlation is not causation and post hoc ergo propter hoc is still a logical fallacy.
However, no correlation can’t be causation… and anti-correlation really can’t be causation.
California’s relatively aggressive statewide lockdown order was given on March 9th. It was the first in the nation.
New York imposed the most aggressive lockdown order (1/51) on March 20, 2020. Before March 20, there was no panic…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_local_government_response_to_the_COVID-19_pandemic
Governor Cuomo issued the lockdown order on March 20.
Texas locked down county by county, in a relatively non-aggressive manner (42/51), with no statewide order issued until April 2.
Texas and California have very similar population-adjusted cases, far below New York.
Texas has the lowest hospitalization rate of the three states.
Texas has the lowest fatality rate of the three states.
Easy:
There was hardly any testing in the whole US before March 15. Just 39k tests in TOTAL.
https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily
You can only see what you are testing for. Old rule in biology.
This is a lesson for the next Sylvatic, after HIV, H1N1, Ebola, SARS, MERS, COVID19. The WHI chef scientist clearly warned the next is already on the way.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-coronavirus-slipped-past-disease-detectives/
The Spanish Flu had 3 waves, each worse. This is not a ‘flu”.
So instead of going into a weird McCarthy “reds” parody of the 1950’s , get ready. If this pandemic hits the developing sector as expected, remember Edgar Alan Poe’s
The Masque of the Red Death By Edgar Allan Poe – Published 1842 apparently after a cholera plague.
https://www.poemuseum.org/the-masque-of-the-red-death
It will return with added virulence from the southern hemisphere, and that in an election year, while they argue about “correlation” . It is something from Boccaccio’s Decameron!
The difference is that this is nowhere near as lethal as bad influenza pandemics. The establishment is simply treating it like it’s an HIV-Ebola hybrid that is spread by looking people in the eyes.
The estimate for number of people killed by influenza each year is between 250,000-650,000. Covid-19 is on pace to take as many lives as a normal flu season. HIV killed 2,200,000 per year at its peak. 1968 influenza killed over 500,000 in Hong Kong alone and over 1,000,000 global. 1956-58 was a multi year pandemic, over 2,000,000 died. 1918-19 took about 50,000,000. 14th century bubonic plague killed an estimated 60% of the global population.
The Spanish Flu is not very well understood, except that it was very unusual.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3291398/
An entire post that doesn’t blame every ill in the world a conspiracy of Evil English Bankers? Ok, what did you do with the real bonbon? 😉
Aren’t the “infection rate” numbers that you are using are only test-postitive cases? I’m under the impression that we have no idea how many are infected until we do wide spread random testing (or test everyone).
No because the infection rate used in this case is essentially self normalized by being compared to itself among different states. It’s useless when you want to use infection rate to determine another statistic, like case fatality rate. But the only thing skewing it here might be population density, but the study was not to see if population density affected infection rate, it was to test whether the degree of mandated lockdowns had any impact on infection rate.
But if you don’t control for population density (a variable you admit could skew the results) chances are your results will be meaningless. Comparing the infection rate on a rural country of a few hundred to a few thousand people (where “social distancing” isn’t too different from the normal) to that of a big city of hundreds of thousands+ (where “social distancing” was very alien to the normal) likely won’t give you comparable numbers. lockdown or no lockdown. You need, as best you can with the data available, to compare like to like.
Which came first?
– The chicken or the egg?
– Global temperature rise or increasing atmospheric CO2?
– Lockdowns or high COVID-19 infection rates?
The causation may be reversed??
I see TWO lines in your graph: one straight across at about 1800 infections per million population, and the other steeper than the line you drew.
There were three dots in the top 10 on the lower line: the 10th state is West Virginia. That is my current state of residence. It is a very rural state with the theme “wild and wonderful West Virginia.” I expected its rate of infection to be low because even its capital Charleston has only 50 000 residents and it is mountainous territory.
As to why the worst Constitution violators had the highest number of cases: everything done to panic about COVID is harmful to the immune system. We are strongest with communication and love–and Sunshine. This affects vitamin D, which has turned out to be a calcium regulator, with effects far beyond bones and teeth. More sun, more vitamin D, which is why Israel has low case and fatality rates, but much higher among the most Orthodox Jews, who wear too much clothing, and higher among blacks because they need more sun for the same amount of vitamin D production.
It does provide an opportunity for cooperation between Orthodox Jews and Muslims in Israel and elsewhere. They don’t have to give up their modesty; they just have to work together for sex-segregated times and places to enjoy the sun in swimsuits or in less clothing. These times do not need to be long.
I didn’t draw any lines.
I think the PERCEPTION of lockdown efficacy on whatever measure you care to name depends on how frightened the person is. If very scared, lockdowns effective; if not, lockdowns not effective. The comments above probably breakdown in this way.
There are two types of people here:
1) Those afraid of the Kung Flu.
2) Those pissed off at government.
You could easily be both I guess.
I believe it was William F Buckley who observed that there are two types of people in the world. Those who put people into two categories, and those who do not.
There is an excellent analysis of the history of the pandemic and the governmental response at one of my favorite websites:
“Political Calculations: Governor Cuomo and the Coronavirus Models” | May 12, 2020 |
https://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2020/05/governor-cuomo-and-coronavirus-models.html#.XrrvP0S9MUF
My conclusion is that Governor Cumo was chasing the pandemic with tardy policies, and that he made a horrendous policy mistake in his treatment of nursing homes.
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I think that one of the reasons why our country has so many cases is that it was not given the importance it should have at the time that the first people with the symptoms appeared, I think that the best thing is to stay in your home in testos times movie online as a family to avoid more infections.
look the site :https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/12/lockdown-fail-in-one-easy-graph/#comment-2992706
Interesting that Mockton and Jo nova have stopped publishing re lockdowns that are causing millions if not billions of misery around the world . Old people with cancer or other conditions that cannot be treated because of their stupid advise. However they are very very welcome to continue their sites with the climate change story. I would strongly recommend that they stick to climate change they are very good at it. Everybody will get this FLU virus and it will do nothing to 99.9999999 percent of the population.
Monckton, didn’t have a clue. His mission was to portray lockdown as necessary. We can only wonder why but he has form as a baggage handler for the government.
Monckton’s opinions are sincere. There’s no reason to question his integrity.
Everyone has one, lets not give him plaudits that are not deserved.
Advice for Eliza—
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BODSCrj9FHQ
Also, get back on your meds
Scotland-
“Over 90% of COVID19 related deaths are in the age range 65 plus. 41% were in the over 85 years age group. Now there’s a surprise.
75% of all COVID19 related deaths are in the +75 years age group.
Out of the total of 2,795 deaths, 2,097 have been in an age group of 75 and above!
4,997,455 Scots have been locked down by Government diktat with almost ZERO probability of dying from the disease.
Even in the susceptible age groups, you have less than 0.5% chance of dying from the disease based on population totals”