#coronavirus #covid-19 Let’s quarantine some fake corona and energy news

Junk science and scare stories stampede countries into taking drastic, unnecessary action

Paul Driessen

Medical Health Care Worker Showing Stop Sign

Some 40,000 children slave away in Chinese-operated Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) mines, digging out cobalt for cell phones, laptops, Teslas and Green New Deal technologies, the London-based Guardian has reported. They’re exposed constantly to toxic and radioactive mud, dust, water and air. Blood and respiratory diseases, birth defects, cancer, paralysis and death by suffocation are common. Other investigators have confirmed the horrors. But the human rights violations continue.

Unfortunately, other Guardian stories are a bizarre mix of fact, fake news, junk science, conjecture and nonsense. “Is our destruction of nature responsible for Covid-19?” a recent headline blared, adding “As habitat and biodiversity loss increase globally, the coronavirus outbreak may be just the beginning of mass pandemics.” The story blamed the destruction and virus on road building, mining and logging.

The article opens with the tragic story of an Ebola-traumatized village in Gabon, just west of the DRC, on Africa’s west coast. Villagers had gotten the disease from eating a wild chimpanzee. Many had died.

But what followed was eco-proselytizing right out of pagans, prophets and other ancient religious lore that attribute calamities to mankind’s sins against gods, God – or in this case Gaia. Some vague “number of researchers” in the new academic “discipline” of “planetary health” now “believe” it is “humanity’s destruction of biodiversity that creates the conditions for new viruses and diseases such as COVID-19.”

Humans “invade” wild landscapes where animals and plants live that harbor unknown viruses, says one supposed expert. “We disrupt ecosystems and shake viruses loose from their natural hosts,” he asserts.

“Research suggests” that outbreaks of diseases crossing over from animals to humans “are on the rise,” the article continues. While rabies and bubonic plague “crossed over centuries ago,” it’s getting much worse: Marburg, Mers, Nipah, SARS, Zika and West Nile, for example; the Asian flu and AIDS. These “zoonotic” diseases are “increasingly linked to environmental change and human behavior,” such as human population growth, urbanization and the “disruption of pristine forests,” says another “expert.”

It sounds plausible, especially for people with limited scientific, medical or analytical backgrounds. It definitely appeals to those who dislike mining, logging, roads and humanity. But it ignores history and reality, and relies on anti-technology ideologies that claim we are “sinning against our Earth Mother.”

Malaria, dengue, yellow fever and sleeping sickness are also mentioned. But what about cholera, polio (which I had as a child), smallpox, measles, multiple plagues in various cities and countries through the ages, and countless iterations of influenza? We still don’t know where they came from – and many mutate frequently, often defying our best efforts to eradicate them or find vaccines and cures, even today.

Many were carried to Europe or the Americas, Russia or other lands by sailing ships – to populations that lacked natural or built-up immunities, before we knew about bacteria and viruses, even how to make soap.

Today’s emergent diseases can travel far more rapidly and widely, thanks to trains, cars, ships and planes. With billions living today in crowded cities, rapid transmission of virulent or novel diseases is greatly facilitated, despite modern clinics, hospitals, vaccinations, medicines, antibiotic soaps and proper hygienic practices, especially when responses are slow and the World Health Organization (WHO) colludes with Chinese government officials to spread disinformation about an absence of human-to-human transmission.

Life-saving modern technologies, hospitals, labs, drugs and homes didn’t just happen. They are the product of mining, logging, roads, drilling, modern agriculture, communication and transportation, and especially fossil fuel and nuclear energy – which enable innovation to thrive, help keep Nature’s wrath and fury at safer distances, and helped extend average American life spans from 40 in 1800 to 47 in 1900 and 78 today. How and why this happened is an amazing saga. The story of penicillin is just as fascinating.

The Guardian has it completely backward. Utilizing Earth’s surface and subsurface bounties – God’s blessings – did not unleash COVID-19 and other viruses, bacteria and diseases. Doing so helped save us from pestilence and starvation that have ravaged humanity throughout history. It still does today.

Diseases will always be with us. They will evolve, mutate, cross over from animals to humans, and try to ravage us for as long as we inhabit this magnificent planet. Never forget: it was the fossil fuels that so many detest which enabled so much of humanity to escape the deprivation, starvation and disease that kept human, health and technological progress to barely measurable minimums until about 1800.

Imagine what would happen if abundant, reliable, affordable heat and electricity from fossil, nuclear and hydroelectric were replaced by limited, intermittent, weather-dependent, expensive wind, solar and battery power. The impacts on our healthcare and living standards would be horrific. Try to picture life in African villages and cities, where electricity, clean water, sanitation and healthcare are still almost nonexistent.

Imagine what our planet would look like, if we had to replace relatively few fossil, nuclear and hydroelectric power plants with millions of wind turbines, billions of solar panels and billions of backup batteries, sprawling across hundreds of millions of acres. We would have to open or expand thousands of mines, to provide the metals and minerals required to manufacture all that pseudo-renewable energy.

Disruption of ecosystems and destruction of biodiversity would multiply by orders of magnitude. And switching to organic farming would at least double the acreage we’d have to cultivate to feed humanity.

The Guardian article subtly but harshly criticizes hunting chimpanzees and other wild animals. But why do African villagers do that? It’s not rocket science. They are hungry! Living on the edge of survival.

And yet UN and EU agencies, eco-imperialist pressure groups, anti-development banks and fossil fuel divestment campaigners demand that Africans compound the misery of already living without electricity, clean water and healthcare – by turning their backs on modern seeds, fertilizers, pesticides and tractors.

Instead, Africans are supposed to survive on whatever meager crops they can harvest using agro-ecology (primitive subsistence farming) and whatever might survive droughts and locust plagues. They’re also supposed to be content with bed nets, avoid using insecticides to kill insects that carry diseases like malaria, dengue and sleeping sickness, and never use the long-lasting spatial insect repellant DDT, which keeps 80% of mosquitoes from entering a home with one spray on walls and doorways every six months.

The article next cites “disease ecologists,” supposed experts from another new “discipline,” who claim these diseases increasingly come from “wet markets” that have only recently “sprung up” to provide fresh meat for large urban populations. Wet markets have certainly been tied to the coronavirus. But they have been around for centuries, due to culture and tradition, as places to meet and gossip, as symbols of wealth, as reflections of the belief that their meat is more natural and healthy – and the reality that there is not enough farm-raised meat because agricultural practices in much of Asia and Africa are still antiquated.

In a final bit of absurdity, the author says the solutions to this modern crisis of disease outbreaks “start with education and awareness” – one must suppose like the junk science, fake news and half-baked ideas carelessly thrown about in his article. And then the newspaper weighs in, railing that under the Trump administration “anger and cruelty disfigure public discourse and lying is commonplace.” But with financial help from readers, The Guardian can “keep delivering quality journalism” – like this fable.

Nonsense like this – masquerading as journalism and science – does immense harm to energy policies, disease prevention, education for all ages, and the health and living standards that all humans deserve.

One has to wonder. If we can close restaurants and parks, and ban gatherings of more than ten people, can’t we quarantine nonsense about disease, mining, and wild ecosystems disrupted because we haven’t sufficiently adopted “clean, green, renewable, sustainable” wind, solar, battery and biofuel alternatives?

If we can’t quarantine nonsense, can’t our print and electronic media at least refrain from propagating it?

Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org) and author of books and articles on energy, environment, climate and human rights issues.

121 thoughts on “#coronavirus #covid-19 Let’s quarantine some fake corona and energy news

    • Indeed.
      Africa’s problem is basic and obvious.
      Having more children than they can feed & generally provide for.
      Their fault, no one else’s.

      • Typically women in Africa don’t get that choice. Females in Africa are considered “chattels” or property. And even in Ethiopia where child females are “sold” and then raped, for want of a better word, and give birth to babies that their bodies cannot deliver ripping their whole lower body apart. There is the fistula hospital in Addis Ababa which is funded in part by Oprah Winfrey.

        Yes, a basic but less obvious problem in Africa.

          • Patrick is right Mark. Too many people base their views and make judgements from their own life experience. Take yourself off to Africa, spend some time there and find out how ‘different’ they are to you.

            Immigrants in Australia still practice their ‘culture’. Female circumcision is practiced illegally, child marriage ceremonies too are practiced in secret. These things are only found out when things go wrong.

            These are not stereotypical and they are happening now.

          • Then how would you describe the body of a 4 year old little boy who was repeatedly sodomized until he died? Stereotypical?!!

      • I think the use of the word “fault” is not a good choice of words. African women having or attempting to have 9 or 10 children or more was driven by the number that died in childbirth and from dysentery and malaria (amongst other nasty diseases). I spent some time in Cameroon purely to hear this from on the ground.

      • “Their fault, no one else’s.”

        The West has been supporting Africa’s rapid population growth for decades, while telling Western kids not to have children because ‘overpopulation’. Without Western support, Africa’s population would be much lower, and probably sustainable. Now, when the West stops supporting them, hundreds of millions will probably die.

        ‘Charity’ in Africa has been one of the greatest humanitarian disasters in the history of the planet.

        • “MarkG April 5, 2020 at 8:08 pm

          ‘Charity’ in Africa has been one of the greatest humanitarian disasters in the history of the planet.”

          That you are correct in this respect. The other parts of your post are pure rubbish!

          • The idea that charity causes humanitarian disaster for black people, has got to be the most stupid, racist thing I have seen written on this site.

          • I’ve lived and worked in Africa for nearly 40 years. MarkG is 100% correct. The NGO’s, multilaterals and government development agencies may have good intentions but they have exacerbated Africa’s (at least sub-saharan africa) problems through their efforts. Virtually all of these countries don’t have the education, healthcare, agricultural and most importantly the governance structures to permit economic growth to match their population growth and improve the lives of the vast majority of their people. So you end up with more people living in poverty with little hope for the future. Why do you think millions are trying to get into Europe. South and Central America are better, but not much.

          • MarkW
            April 5, 2020 at 9:33 pm

            That charity is money. Where do you think that money is going?
            You just don´t know.
            You should try thinking, it won´t hurt you.
            Your ignorance is shining in your stupid comment. Shame on you.

          • Charity may be ok, but it’s how charity works. Charity in form of gitfts look nice, but charity for self-help would work better on the long run.
            The give aways of cheep foodstuff prevent self production. Support for self production and self-help is better than give aways.

          • MarkG is correct because the “charity” is never enough and never will be. Moneys given to countries are often taken by crooked politicians just like here in Canada. It has been that way for decades. Countless billions flushed and the people still suffer. All cultures are not equal.

        • So the solution to misery, is more misery.

          Utter bullshit. People have lots of children because they needed a lot of children so that enough of them could grow up to support the family.
          Every single culture on this planet went through this phase, only racists consider too many black children to be the problem.

          I’m willing to be that you have never been to Africa and never talked to someone from their.
          Charity never killed people, nor did it cause unsustainable populations, anymore than charity anywhere else in the world caused those mythical problems that so haunt your fevered imagination.

          • MarkW: You’re changing what people said, and then cutting down a strawman argument.

            Perhaps it should be written as, ‘you get what you pay for’ for example, homeless crisis in all democrat run cities. Generally, if you pay money to governments to hand out to people who cannot otherwise take care of themselves for whatever reasons, you do not solve the cause of the problem in the first place. That is, the cause of the crisis is not lack of charity. It’s something else, and I will not get drawn into this off topic diatribe.

        • Mark..
          We are to blame !!! how can a clothing factory compete with “free” discarded shoes and clothing from the ” ignorant do-good”
          WAIT !! send more money.

      • Africa’s problems have nothing to do with how many children they are having.
        In the US, women were having a dozen children and at the same time we built a marvelous economy that lifted everyone out of poverty.
        Ditto Europe, ditto Asia.

        Are you arguing that only brown people can’t figure out how to feed their children?

        Africa’s problems come with political corruption and rampant socialism.
        Solve those two problems and everything else will fix itself.

      • Don’t be too harsh, Wally. It detracts from the real problem.

        No society has more children than it (thinks it) needs. When your way of life is labour intensive and a sizeable percentage of your offspring is likely to die before reaching adulthood then having a larger number of them to start with is only sensible. If we want the “developing world” to stop having so many of them we need to let the people become wealthier. It is always and everywhere the best, if not only, way to limit population.

      • – And in many cases, voting (when they’re allowed) for non-democratic socialist parties filled with greed. “It’s OUR turn to eat!” has been a primary driver in sub-Saharan Africa.

  1. China does not care about its’ own citizens …. no surprise it does not care about everyone else .

    • Why would Communist Chinese leaders much care about their captive citizens whose worth Karl Marx had defined for them as fully residing in their work, paralleling the society of an ant colony, within a self-assembled purposeless material cosmos. For those at the top with further aspirations of a wider hegemony, their ‘uncle’ Joe Stalin’s excuse that to make an omelette you must break a few eggs is elementary.

      Meanwhile for minions at the peoples ‘Guardian’, their own indubitable virtue wafts forth via a convenient vocational blindness about where the ink originates to print all the anger and cruelty they may be able to project onto others while disfiguring public discourse across countless huge rolls of arboreally sourced cellulose newsprint. That about captures it.

  2. Speaking of progress, and its hurdles, does anyone have any ideas about what would need to change to get nuclear energy happening in Australia? My optimistic outlook is that it would transform the place for the better. We also have plenty of uranium, so if it was successful, it could be successful for quite a while.

    • Try reversing about 60 years of propaganda. Yeah nah…too many stupid people in Australia…

    • Forget the uranium. You have massive piles of mine tailings. In there is a lot of thorium that can be used in a LFTR (see youtube and Kirk Sorenson).

      Sell the idea as a way to clean up all the tailings from your mining operation in a way that produces no CO2 and can provide energy for thousands of years. Never use the word “nuclear” always say “LFTR” (LiFTeR).

      • Thorium is just like windmill-energy, only for investment touts and not for powering lights.

        When have you heard Mr. and Mrs. Franklin (Phoebe) Kettle, ‘Ma & Pa’, bragging on their new Cadillac automobile, and how they’ll buy another new one next year with the profits from their windmill?

        When have you heard of General Electric licensing and building a new LFTR power plant?

  3. If you go to the Australian Sydney Morning Herald website today you will see most articles are headed “Coronavirus Pandemic”. It’s nuts, not only that, crazy nuts!

    • Well, as my Mum in Yorkshire said when I called her today – at least it’s different from them banging on about Brexit. I guess Brexit’s not going to kill everyone from a bogeyman crisis any more.

      The orange man badosphere over here seems to be be a bit disrupted these days too. They usually need about 36 – 48 hours to agree on and consolidate the narrative and they’re not getting it.

    • If you go to the SMH website today you get what you deserve.

      Same case yesterday and same case tomorrow.

      The only variation is when they bend the knee to China and allow them to be guest editor for a few days.

  4. Paul, if you had polio as a child, perhaps you can tell me what became of the many children locked in iron lungs? Did they recover? I’ve always wondered.

    • I know of a few people who had polio. Most recovered but not 100 %. They had some disability or were not at full strength. One person I knew had a problem with one leg similar to a stroke. What I do not know is how many passed away. My mother may know.

        • Would you care to explain that? To another ex-polio sufferer!

          Three of us in our village contracted it at the same time, aged about 7 or 8. All survived. My legacy is one leg slightly shorter than the other which never bothered me until my 60s when, according to an osteopath, it became the reason for persistent lower back problems.

          Back in the 1940s/50s it was predominantly a childhood disease and pre-puberty fairly mild and short-lived. It was the older ones that ended up paralysed for long periods or for life.

          • So they never had any serious and precise diagnostic. Got it. You had some serious but undefined illness.

            But still, “muh polio”, “muh vaccine”.

    • Not Paul, but a curiosity bump…

      Apparently, most of them came out of the machine after two to six weeks – the damage was not permanent to their respiratory nervous system. (Many with permanent damage elsewhere, as in FDR.)

      But – there were those who went in and never came out. Found a case of one in Oz that went into it at age 12 – and died at age 72. Sixty years…

  5. “Some 40,000 children slave away in Chinese-operated Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) mines, digging out cobalt for cell phones, laptops, Teslas and Green New Deal technologies, the London-based Guardian has reported”

    Yes sir, they are slaving away, just as they have done throughout modern history first as a provider of slaves to the arabs and to the west, then as a belgian colony providing minerals and mining services to the west up to and including the supply of uranium to the usa and the soviet union. The DRC is the world’s richest country under the ground in terms of mineral wealth and the world’s poorest country above the ground because of their culture and internal strife. Always has been and still is.

    Now the chinese too are dipping into the under-the-ground wealth of a bizarre equation in this hopelessly poor country just as the arabs and the west have done for a hundred years or more.

    What is the point of shedding crocodile tears for the DRC children this time around?

    • Africa is a stunning continent. Every country I have been to is full of beautiful people (Ok I have a weak sport for African an woman), cultures and food. It is truly beautiful.

      • What was the CIA before it became the CIA after 1948 after it screwed up another “program” to sway “govn’ts”? Was it called OSS? My memory of this is very faded now…

  6. The arguments that modernisation due to technology decreases the risk of human animal disease transfer is correct but it certainly does not eliminate it. Plus having better living conditions, access to clean water and good food does not entirely persuade a whole population to take advantage of it. In Australia we have significant effort put into helping the indigenous communities to have modern living benefits but some still insist on hunting ‘bush tucker’ and bludgeon wombats, dugongs and green turtles to a painful death to indulge their back to nature fantasy. They have ample access to safe and healthy food and given money to buy it but still want to follow practices that make most Australian squirm, but they are allowed to.

    • I don’t know what message he wants to spread exactly. It seems to be that the only hope is to arrest the progression of the disease through a treatment that prevents the need to go onto a ventilator because the ventilator is unlikely to work.

      What treatment would that be? Hydroxychloroquine? If that’s what he means, he ought to be more explicit about it.

      Unfortunately I also have to ask if we can be sure that this video is really made by an icu doctor, even if the name he gives is an actual doctor, is he that person? Anybody can dress up in scrubs and make a video. Sorry to be so suspicious.

      What should we do with this information?

      • He’s saying ventilators work and are needed, but the protocol they’re using applies too much pressure and is actually doing the lung damage they are trying to prevent. So it’s the protocol that’s at fault, not the ventilators.

        • Seems like he and others are saying that high flow nasal cannula (HFNC) oxygen is preferable, intubation is usually neither necessary nor effective. The patients do not present with respiratory fatigue (muscles being too fatigued to breath).

          In effect the system is reacting to symptoms that would appropriately be interpreted as ARDS when the disease really calling for high flow oxygen.

          Silver lining of running out of ventilators will force HFNC that may be more effective.

          • Listened to the whole podcast (thank you so much for posting it)
            I just want to revise my comment that they didn’t say ventilators can’t help but you should try to delay and “give the patient a chance” (to respond to HFNC) as well as proning (laying the belly) or side.
            Also there is no discussion of hydroxychloroquine so at least these clinicians don’t seem to be holding out hope for that.

            Another theory raised was that the hypoxia (low oxygen saturation) may relate to small blood clots in the lungs, which may suggest additional therapies. (tPA, Tissue plasminogen activator, which is a blood thinner used to treat certain ischemic strokes)

            Also, don’t rely on me for any expertise on this, I am just trying to help others understand what the podcast seems to be saying in layman’s terms. I have no medical training. Just years of trying to understand doctors telling my dad things.

      • “Unfortunately I also have to ask if we can be sure that this video is really made by an icu doctor, even if the name he gives is an actual doctor, is he that person? Anybody can dress up in scrubs and make a video. Sorry to be so suspicious.

        What should we do with this information?”

        At this point, with all of the social engineers being exposed, it seems wise to investigate and scrutinize all sources.

    • Maybe I replied to a duplicate post and that’s why my reply disappeared when the post was deleted?

      I don’t see how this video is helpful. It seems to say that ventilators don’t help and it’s necessary to find a treatment that arrests the progression of the disease before it reaches the point where a ventilator is needed. But there’s no specific suggestion. Is he hinting at hydroxychloroquine?

      What message should we be helping to spread? Just propagating this video is spreading a message of despair.

      Do we even know that this is really an icu doctor?

      If it is a legit video what treatment does he have in mind? Why not say?

  7. The Grauniad like the Sydney Morning Herald has everything completely back to front and also upside down.
    Neither of these newspapers deserves to survive even just as fish & chip wrappers. They masquerade as journalistic sources of information on science but mainly aim to spread extreme leftist policies, damage energy policy, pervert disease eradication, and ruin the living standards of humanity.

  8. As of today, 37 people have died from this virus and at least 3 of those were very frail 90+ year olds. The whole country is in practical full lockdown, 10’s of thousands out of work. More people die on the roads in Australia.

    • 10’s of thousands? Hundreds so far, and probably millions in time.

      And did nobody even speculate as to what we could do with our healthcare system with an extra $300 billion? We could have added capacity to cope, now and for the future. This way we all suffer, lose many lifetime investments and livelihoods, pay $300 billion, and get no long term benefits.

  9. The fact that humans contact and sometimes contract diseases from novel viruses is a facet of evolution.

    The fact that humans remain totally unprepared and are surprised whenever a novel disease occurs is a facet of our stupidity. We simply do not seem to ever learn from previous experience.

    It is excusable for poor countries that can’t even feed their own people to not be prepared…they are already dealing with death. It is inexcusable for a rich modern country to be completely unprepared – it is a failure of government to prioritize. We waste billions on completely idiotic things like climate change over the next 100 years, and fail to spend millions on stock piling simple health supplies? REALLY?

    If the DIMocrats really want to have a serious investigation, they should be looking into WHY our stockpiles were depleted and never restocked back in 2009-2010.

    • we were obviously not completely unprepared … unless perfect is the only standard …

      • When there is a Republican in the White House, nothing short of perfection is acceptable.
        Heck, even perfection may not be good enough.

        • If Trump cured COVID himself they’d find fault with him and say he didn’t do it quicker because he’s evil and wanted to see people die.

  10. It’s very hard, nearly impossible, to argue somebody out of their religious beliefs. These benighted individuals have irrational beliefs that they love and cherish. No amount of logical argument nor documented facts will be liable to penetrate their mythology. They probably are sincere in thinking that they act for good motives. (Not all, a small cadre of cynical evil ones like the XR agitators are manipulating the useful idiots in their pursuit of power).

    Quarantining this disinformation is not possible because most of the media are devout believers in the new antihuman religion. All that can be done is to fight for our right to debunk their dogmas. We will need to fight these battles for many generations I’m afraid.

    • Quoting: Rich Davis “We will need to fight these battles for many generations I’m afraid.”

      I disagree. Virus has caused lots of fear, but it has also forced everyone to get involved. We can no longer treat threats as existential problems, some time in the future. All those “climate activists” and “true believers” must stop their pretend action and face the consequences like the rest of us. There will be no more climate conferences, no more fake green technologies.

      Once the depth of corruption is seen, this is all going to end. People are going to see through it all.

      • I suspect the forthcoming global depression will put paid to much of modern imbecility (transgenderism, intersectionality, “wokeness” etc.) as well as climate alarmism. People will have REAL problems to worry about, like paying their rent and putting food on the table.

      • I could be wrong but I speak from experience talking to sincere family members of the young generation.

        No doubt that some of the media are purely partisan Democrats seeking to disrupt things during a Republican administration. Their crap will be discounted (even before the pandemic). But the party of Death is the party of Death because of their anti-human ideology. I call it a religion, not because there are some who literally deify the earth (yet some do), but because their beliefs are based on faith, and are impervious to evidence. Consider how much more evidence is needed to debunk Malthus and Ehrlich. (None)! Yet I often hear earnest concern that “infinite growth” must stop now. Infinite growth is a clever abstraction, similar to sea level rise. At some far distant future if nothing changes, maybe eventually there will be problems. But if people believe, take it on faith, that those (vastly exaggerated) problems are imminent, they can be manipulated into believing that radical self-destructive change is necessary right here and now.

        Those who are not infected with this thinking must speak up rationally to contend for hearts and minds of those who are still persuadable. The “infected” can only do it for themselves and probably never will.

        You’re right that the persuadable will be far less persuadable by the anti-human religion when they are struggling already for daily survival. This is a “first world problem”. I hope you’re wrong that we’re about to cease being first world.

      • The highest imperative for humanity is to fully expose the sources of disinformation/misinformation and outright lies.

  11. I suppose it is true that we don’t get pandemics without global travel. The plague used to be spread by merchant ships but air travel spreads disease faster. We should all have stayed at home in our villages and died of famine and poor sanitation – exacerbated by the inevitable inbreeding.

    • There’s no reason to have millions of people traveling around the world every day, and this disease is showing exactly why that’s a disastrous idea. We did fine back when a trip to China required weeks or months on a boat.

      The real problem is that we shipped all the real jobs to China, which left Westerners looking for something to do to make money, so they decided to become tour guides for Chinese tourists who came here to spend some of the money were were shipping them to buy the things that we used to employ Westerners to make. We could just go back to making our own stuff, and then there’d be no need for tourism, which is not only a wonderful way to spread plagues, but wrecks the places which rely on it.

      • I love how the totalitarians among us feel free to decide what limits should be placed on other people’s lifestyles.

        If you want the world to go back to the lifestyles we had in the 1800’s, why don’t you just come out and say so.

        First off, only a tiny handful of jobs were shipped to China. Actually most of the jobs that went to China traveled from the US to Japan, to Korea, to Singapore, before going to China.
        They went because the government here taxed to heavily and regulated too much. There was also the problem with unions that felt that the jobs belonged to them and they could demand any wage without consequences.

        So Las Vegas, the Gulf coast, Niagara, etc have all been wrecked? Or is it only Asian tourists that wreck things?

      • In the late 60’s and early 70’s I used to watch aircraft streak across the skies over London and the south east of England and wondered “What would it be like, up there?”. It was way more impressive in winter with colder air. I experienced it in 1995. And it was awesome. I also got to see the cond-trails from the engines in 2003 from the inside of a 747. AWESOME!

        Lets not destroy what we have accomplished, eh?

      • MarkG,

        What is going to happen to France, Spain, and Italy where tourism accounts for 10% of their
        GDP?

        New York has 69 million overnight visitors. Paris has 38 million overnight visitors.

        Do we still need to wear masks? I do not want to wear a mask.

        In reply to Paul Driessen:

        You have done too many monologues and allowed our the corrupt Pharmaceutical industry to hide breakthroughs, while selling us expensive drugs would be eliminate.

        You seem to be a nice person and just know nothing about this corrupt industry or this field of science.

        We have a real big problem today. An attack on our civilization. We want to live our lives again.

        We bloody well need real solutions that work today, to stop this problem. Yes, electricity is good but we are forced to isolate because cannot stop a virus.

        Antiviral drugs are big money makers.

        What we want for covid-19 is optimized antibodies.

        This same technique, the development of a biologically system to produce automized antibodies was done to cure Ebola. There is now a 96% cure rate for Ebola.

        If the public knew what was going…. We would do something. Like send a letter to our representative and demand that something actually get done.

        You know solve a problem so it goes away. America has breakthroughs which we have been sitting on for decades.

        The problem is the so called think tanks are paid for by industry. There really is a swamp.

        A lab of six people have created a biological system which in four weeks biologically, automized five SARS antibodies, that the government spent millions on to cure SARS, to enable the biologically altered antibodies to attack and kill covid-19.

        The leader of the Lab in question, Jacob Glanville notes that it should not be possible for a lab with six people to solve the covid-19 problem using the exact same method that was used to cure Ebola.

        Logically anyone of the billion dollar Pharmaceutical companies who work with viruses could have used the same technique.

        The Pharmaceutical industry knows the ‘new’ technology will make many of their antiviral drugs obsolete and drastically reduces the cost to develop the ‘drug’ (optimized antibodies in this case).

        When a breakthrough has happened regardless of its effect on industry, we need real leaders in our government, to find the breakthrough, to ensure it not hidden for decades. Our system has become institutionalized. Everyone is little kog in a stupid system.

        The antibodies have been sent to the US military for testing. If the testing goes well antibody production would start in September, if the lab got funding which it has not.

        I do not trust our corrupt system.

        We do not want to wear masks for the rest of lives.

        And secondly, the same company of six people, is have developed biological system to produce the antibodies fast and cheaply.

        This new field of biology is called synthetic biology.

        https://archive.bio.org/articles/synthetic-biology-explained

        China is a world leader in this technology as they have spent billions on it.

        The reason why our Pharmaceutical companies are not interested is this new field, is it drastically reduces the cost to produce drugs. They will make less money.

        The same lab of six people have used synthetic biological techniques to produce their optimized antibodies.

        It is absolutely unreal. It is a real Tony Starks. And it get better. Jacob Glanville is only person who has made real contributions to two breakthrough fields of science.

        Glanville is shown in a HBO documentary on AI development. He has developed an AI program that can analyze and develop viruses to do specialized things. In lead to the documentary, they noted that Glanville has made contribution to the new field of synthetic engineering but that he is not welcomed as it will revolutionize the pharmaceutical industry.

    • There isn’t a whole lot new under the Sun as far as disease and plague go, except newly evolved strains of disease/virus and now it can spread at the speed of a modern jet airplane. In days of old, it spread via the Silk Road from Central China (Wuhan) to Iran (Persia) and then on to Rome (Italy) and onward to points in Europe and beyond. And vice versa. Seems to me to be pretty much the same old story. Globalism has been going on for thousands of years.

  12. Not to mention that humanitarian aid, medevacs, medical and relief equipment is more than often quickly flown on location by “big guzzling planes”.

    Come on greenwashed Teslarati, line-up your emergency fleet and let’s see who does most to save lives !

  13. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/pandemics-history-prevention/?utm_source=NutritionFacts.org&utm_campaign=602d431cbe-RSS_VIDEO_WEEKLY&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_40f9e497d1-602d431cbe-24006629&mc_cid=602d431cbe

    Very interesting talk about the increase since 1975. The CAFO operations are THE prime breeding grounds for viral development. The bugs couldn’t ask for better conditions.

    Near the beginning he goes over some of the theories about where virus came from. Animal domestication. Cows = measles, camels = smallpox, pigs = whooping cough, chickens = typhoid fever, ducks = influenza, water buffalo = leprosy, horse = common cold.

    I don’t know if its correct but very interesting.

    The talk is a decade old but as timely now as it was then. Most of the

  14. So who’s to say past flu cases weren’t more prevalent than we thought? We didn’t do much if any testing to verify….. did we? And still many died. Maybe the herd mentality isn’t so stupid after all.

  15. Paul Driessen is correct of course, these species cross-over viruses mostly have originated in Third or Seconds World countries that lack the basic infrastructure to prevent and control them.
    The John Vidal article was replete with equivocation and irrelevances but one quote summed up the problem:
    “The wet market in Lagos is notorious. It’s like a nuclear bomb waiting to happen. But it’s not fair to demonize places which do not have fridges. These traditional markets provide much of the food for Africa and Asia”.
    Refrigeration is not a guaranteed solution, apparently some Chinese prefer their exotic foods freshly slaughtered, but it would go a long way to minimize the problem in the Third World.
    You can’t run a refrigerator or freezer on unreliable solar panels.
    What these countries need is abundant affordable reliable electricity.

  16. Let’s call what I do fake. It works for me. What works for you? I have hypertension and as such, have acquired some technology. I read here and elsewhere because, I haven’t got anything else to do.
    I’m somewhat holistic in thinking there is things already here that we already do but may not realize it. I have a spa that I like to keep above recommended temps that the water is treated with bromine in. I also get my sunshine this way. My brominated beard “may” attract things that “may” not like this.
    I feel for those that can’t eat shellfish because of their religious beliefs. Shellfish has high contents of ZINC.
    Honey is an anti-bacterial anti-microbial agent.
    I take a calcium channel blocker and a beta-blocker.
    Now, this is what I believe is important. I have a SPO2 meter. This inexpensive little device tells you what the oxygen level in your blood is. If your having any kind of respiratory issues, this little thing will tell you before you even notice symptoms yourself. Currently, I’m at 98.
    I live in one of the few states in the USA that is not in lock-down. I already have papers that say I can be out and about during a lock-down because my wife works for a corporate pork producer. If I don’t take her to work, people starve. The mid-west USA may be fly-over country but, we keep people from starving to death.
    What do you do?

    • “Martin557 April 5, 2020 at 8:05 pm

      I take a calcium channel blocker and a beta-blocker.”

      Didn’t work for me with just slightly lower blood pressure than hypertension.

      • Currently working for me although, I am not well controlled. I still have spikes that would knock a sailor out. Stage 2 is way more common for me than I prefer. To make an extremely long story short, When I woke up in the hospital, I had a very large herd of “deer in the headlights looks from medical personal” to greet me. 🙁

  17. Paul Driessen

    You probably aren’t reading this. However, if you are, I have a question. You claim, “They’re exposed constantly to toxic and radioactive mud, dust, water and air.” The construction of the paragraph suggests that the authority for the claim is the less-than objective Guardian. However, in reading the link, I find no support for the claim.

    The children (along with adults) are mostly recovering the mineral cobaltite, which is neither radioactive nor particularly toxic. Therefore, my question to you is, what is your authority for the claim of the radioactivity and toxicity?

    • I tried to look up the answer for you to no avail, and personally I have no idea.

      However, it seems a bit suspicious the cobaltite is mainly extracted in Congo. Reason for suspicion is that cobaltite’s main sources are:
      It is found chiefly in Sweden, Norway, Germany, Cornwall, England, Canada, Australia, Democratic Republic of the Congo and Morocco.
      Ref: https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Cobaltite.html

      All above mentioned countries, except for DRC and Morocco, are all rich western countries with very high protection of the workers and the habitat.
      Obviously price pays a huge role in this.

      Is Congo too democratic? /SARC

  18. “it is “humanity’s destruction of biodiversity that creates the conditions for new viruses and diseases.”

    So new viruses aren’t biodiversity?

    • Nope most would say a virus isn’t alive and Bio means of life or living things 🙂
      You could run a strange esoteric argument but I feel most would disagree at best you could say it would be contentious.

  19. “The DOJ [Department of Justice] announced three separate arrests in January 2020,” it says. “The first was Charles Lieber. The second involved Yanqing Ye, a lieutenant in the Chinese army accused of stealing U.S. research. And third was Zaosong Zheng, who stole 21 vials of biological research.”

  20. Is anyone honestly surprised by this? I’ve been expecting something like this from the green/left mob since this started. How despicable do you have to be to use such human suffering to push your insane, irrational ideals? Let’s ask Marx, Mao, Castro, etc…

    • This is an attempt to create a new control norm. It also sets up a psychology of mistrust; someone coughs and the cough police are called.

      • True- I suffer with hay fever to a greater or lesser degree every year and have dome my whole life, but now I’m scared to sneeze or cough…

  21. Wake up! Most of your alarming posts are ridiculous how many old people have died from a common flu virus people like you are diseminating panick for a nothing burger virus I have lost all respect for Mockton as an intelligent assessor scientist which he does not appear to be from his 1,5c AGW warming calculations which mean nothing it could be minus 2 anyway he appears just to be a a high froliking British old royalist politician with some knowlegde of mathematics and physics good for him. So now lets update and exagerate his death from coronaviruses to 10000 cases per day from this deadly virus to satisfy his stupid cravings of death so now we have normally 170000 people dying per day normally lets say there are 80000 deaths from his coronavirus to date to satisfy his cravings for death so lets say 80000 died from corinavirus over 4 months that is 80000/120days = 665 per per day WORLWIde Please provide me with data that this deviates from the normal death rate. The British Scientists are now amongst the most ignorant scientific people in the world they used to be the smartest/ Very sad. BTW anyone who thinks Mosh is a smart dude loses my respect look at the data

  22. Word is out that mask factories and transport trucks are guarded by elite police forces in neighbor France.

    At the job, we operate now mostly cargo. 6 LD3 containers in the hold and whatever they can fit on the seats and secure with nets in the cabin, mostly boxes of masks.

    That’s 3’800 kg of masks exported and donated per rotation while disinfectant gel and masks are nowhere to be found in our still open stores.

    Something if not quite so right.

  23. It appears all news is written by the same staff that writes for “Ancient Aliens.”

  24. The Guardian and other mainstream media specialize in publishing articles loaded with inferential science. As you read notice the lack of data words, i. e., could, May, suggest, possibly, believe etc

    All designed to scare and or push an agenda that they “believe” in

  25. Bad human! Bad! Bad! Bad! Hang your head in shame for what you have done! How DARE you desire to live? Desire to breathe? Desire to invent, create or modify? Bad human! You are ‘artificial’! You are not natural! You do not live in order and derive chaos because you are bad! FOR SHAME!!

    SHAME!

    SHAME!!

    *preferably in cartoon voice of your choice*. /sarc

    What I want to know is very simple: when is this debate over human nature going to end? It’s been centuries with various dogmas, religious beliefs, new ageness(each considered NEW when they aren’t really all that new) and yet the same thing is debated now in a different circus ring—-humans are a blight upon the Earth unless they buy into whatever is being sold, OR humans are MASTERS of the Earth, we own it and sell whatever we want. When is it going to end? When are will the finger pointing end? Remember when you point a finger, 3 are pointed back at you. Does that make me, “above it all?” certainly not, but I do have a perspective that is mine. I see the current climate debacle as nothing more than the same old argument, are we part of nature or above it? If above it, we must be perfect to it then. If part, then we must strive to perfection….as if there are actual “levels” to achieve here. Any thing less than perfection is shameful.

    IMO, it’s all bunk and bluster and bull derived from an insecurity we are taught at a very early age—we are not good enough on our own.

    • Jenn the world doesn’t need ‘us’ to make it perfect. Can we better ‘manage’ the parts that we live in, yes. That is not always going to happen.

      And yes there are many amongst mankind who deserve the ‘bad’ label. Greed and corruption is rife.

      People aren’t so much angry with the Chinese because this hideous virus started there, they are angry because firstly they tried to pretend there was no problem, then they delayed telling us how virulent is was, and now they are trying to pretend it didn’t originate there. During all that time they were importing medical supplies from other countries and when they got a handle on manufacturing their own they acted like heros and redistributed it. Australia received 800,000 faulty masks.

      In regard to power supply, unfortunately China is involved here too. They want the cheapest possible product, that way they make the largest possible profit. They do not care about people or the environment, ethics is non existent. But of course we perpetuate this because we also want the cheapest product and then expect it to be of high quality. We bought it cheaply and quite often on sell it to make a bigger profit. Greed.

      Wind and solar renewables are now so entrenched it would be extremely difficult to stop it. Big money is being made. Doesn’t even matter the damage to the environment, the economy and more importantly the people in poor countries who make it cheap to manufacture. Greed. And it doesn’t even work. No matter, this is globalisation, it’s for the greater good. Even the people who don’t want a ‘global government’ are helping to make it happen, out of greed.

      This lockdown that people hate so much, restricted or no travel, no freedom, unavailable food or other provisions, limited choices of anything, no sporting events, no money. Everything has changed. Get used to it, that’s how totalitarian rule works. There is no Utopia.

      I am not singling out China here, unfortunately this applies to all socialist countries. The people in ‘power’ in these countries will always be wealthy, sometimes living in opulence. Their lifestyle will never change, they are not about equality, they care nothing for their people.

      Socialism does not work.

  26. Ok, a tiger tested COVID-19 positive at the Bronx zoo.
    Only proves once again that you should stay at least 6 feet from a tiger.

  27. The base agenda is : “Imagine what would happen if abundant, reliable, affordable heat and electricity from fossil, nuclear and hydroelectric were replaced by limited, intermittent, weather-dependent, expensive wind, solar and battery power. The impacts on our healthcare and living standards would be horrific.”
    These so called humans hate humans. They are so miserable of a being that they are compelled to share the misery. They fail in recognizing their hypocrisy.

  28. Paul, great stuff… mainly. You have bought too enthusiastically into the ‘horrors’ of child labor in Africa, however, which is more soshulist fake news in the main.

    Children have been mercilessly exploited by guerilla/terrorist factions, of course and one can find cases of appalling dangerous exploitation of children to inflate the problem miles out of proportion. 95% of African child labour is in family households and farms as a traditional cultural activity. World bank has a more sober assessment:

    https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/handle/10986/9791

    Hey, I had six of my own children on a mixed farm while they were growing up. The oldest milked the cow with a younger one responsible for feeding it, mucking out and assisting with washing and disinfecting the pails. Another couple fed the sheep hay and an oat supplement during winter, mucked out and assisted with lambing and shearing. Another fed the pigs, chickens, ducks and geese, all worked in the market garden, and the older ones helped get in the hay and feed corn, etc. My youngest, starting at age four collected the eggs each morning and reported on repairs needed for the chicken house (we had foxes and coyotes – the big ones cross-bred with wolves in eastern Ontario) who made many efforts to breech the chicken house. A fox got in among the geese to his chagrin and this enclosure was decorated with fox fur in the morning!

    My children are as old as 50+ now, very productive and happy.

  29. Paul overlooks the leading cause of death in the world by a single infectious agent, Tuberculosis and the bacterium, Mycobacterium tuberculosis.
    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tuberculosis
    “About one-quarter of the world’s population has latent TB, which means people have been infected by TB bacteria but are not (yet) ill with the disease and cannot transmit the disease.”
    “A total of 1.5 million people died from TB in 2018 (including 251 000 people with HIV). Worldwide, TB is one of the top 10 causes of death and the leading cause from a single infectious agent (above HIV/AIDS).”

    Studies of skeletons from antiquity shows evidence of TB infections going back at least to 4,000 BC (6000 year bp). No clear evidence where it came from as both bovids and humans carry M tuberculosis trains that share a common ancestor, so it is unclear who gave it to who. Bison remains from Wyoming dated to 17,000 year BP were analyzed for DNA and show evidence of TB infection.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11438894/

    Wikipedia cites a 2010 study, but it still apparently intentionally claims it is HIV/AIDS today (citing 2018 data), but whoever moderates that page is wrong and has an agenda.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis#Epidemiology

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