Fight the Virus with Sunshine

Guest post by Jim Steele

I want to encourage people to go outside and get some sunshine. If walks in the park are outlawed, then limited sunbathing in your back yard, or apartment roof tops would help. I don’t give medical advice, but this is a no-brainer, no-regrets suggestion.

Scientists have long investigated why the flu season dramatically ends in the warmer months. One key factor is our immune systems improve when sun shining on our skin produces the all-important Vitamin D. It is a form of vitamin D that is more effective than what is added to our milk.

Researchers reported, “vitamin D deficiency is common in the winter, and activated vitamin D, a steroid hormone, has profound effects on human immunity. D acts as an immune system modulator, preventing excessive expression of inflammatory cytokines and increasing the ‘oxidative burst’ potential of macrophages. Perhaps most importantly, it dramatically stimulates the expression of potent anti-microbial peptides, which exist in neutrophils, monocytes, natural killer cells, and in epithelial cells lining the respiratory tract where they play a major role in protecting the lung from infection. Volunteers inoculated with live attenuated influenza virus are more likely to develop fever and serological evidence of an immune response in the winter. Vitamin D deficiency predisposes children to respiratory infections.

If we do not get enough sunshine, sheltering in place just might have the unintended consequence of prolonging the COVID 19 epidemic. As the elderly become less mobile and spend less time outside, a vitamin D deficiency would only amplify their vulnerability.

April is the time flu infections dramatically fall. Of course, the COVID 19 virus differs from influenza, but our immune system’s ability to fight all viruses is key. Maybe a little April sunshine will minimize the COVID 19 spread and flatten the curve.

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Jim Steele is Director emeritus of San Francisco State’s Sierra Nevada Field Campus and authored Landscapes and Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism

Contact: naturalclimatechange@earthlink.net

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Reply to  Scissor
April 2, 2020 7:39 am

Seems a little heavy to be from mainland China

Pure bloody mindedness I suppose

icisil
Reply to  Scissor
April 2, 2020 9:55 am

Just what we don’t need – little hygiene nazis not minding their own business harrassing someone who’s testing out keyboard feel and lid hinge force.

ren
April 2, 2020 7:33 am

Unfortunately, pneumonia causes hypoxia. The respirator will help more than fresh air.

Lowell
April 2, 2020 7:42 am

Maybe we should start thinking outside the box. This is going to be a disaster if we keep the economy completely closed. If someone is recovered we should issue them ID that allows them to go to theaters, restaurants, and public places.

If an locality has a hospital system that is not overwhelmed we could start running tests with low risk volunteers. By low risk I mean younger, not overweight, no type 2 diabetes, and their serum vitamin D levels are ideal. If their serum vitamin D is not ideal, give them a dose that makes them ideal. Then give them an extreme low dose of the Wuhan coronavirus…. We have a lot of empty hotels we can use to isolate these people while they go thru the illness. Or to isolate their aged relatives while the rest of the family goes thru the illness.

Of course everyone should wear masks in public.

Stevek
Reply to  Lowell
April 2, 2020 8:10 am

Great ideas. One mistake made was not moving sick people to quarantine center right away. Instead they go back home to infect family members and who knows who else. Even once they find out they are positive they still infect family members especially in cramped quarters.

icisil
Reply to  Lowell
April 2, 2020 9:26 am

Actually, we should forget the ID, just get back to work and tell those who don’t like it to get the phuck over it; or not, I don’t care. It’s not worth destroying the world for a few whiney bitches.

Reply to  icisil
April 2, 2020 9:36 am

Geez. The treatment regiment using hydroxychloroquine et al is effective. We’re at less than flu-level deaths using it – WHY are we p*ssy footing around and NOT using this regimen and getting back to work?

Janice Moore
Reply to  icisil
April 2, 2020 2:26 pm

I cisil:

In slightly different terms (wry smile),

I agree completely.

At-risk (or just nervous) people can self-isolate. We do not need to sacrifice our Constitutional rights on the altar of Socialist Tyranny (i.e. “serfdom” – Friedrich Hayek).

LIBERTY – above all.

Otherwise, life is not worth living.

Is life so dear … as to be purchased at the price of … slavery?

Forbid it, Almighty God. …

Patrick Henry

************

This one, largely ignored, fact needs to be plastered on billboards across the land:

MOST PEOPLE DO NOT DIE OF COVID19

ren
April 2, 2020 8:10 am

The virus will not stop until the population reaches herd immunity.

Foley Hund
April 2, 2020 8:20 am

I haven’t had the flu since 1996. What changed? I began taking mega doses of B complex and Zinc lozenges. And I worked in public settings. You’ll notice Dr. Zelenko used cholorquine, zinc, and Z-Pak. B-12 injections are used to treat viral infections.

icisil
Reply to  Foley Hund
April 2, 2020 10:12 am

He confessed that he doesn’t think the Z-Pak is necessary. Minus that his regimen is 220 mg of zinc sulfate per day for 5 days (at 23% elemental zinc in zinc sulfate, that’s 50.6 mg of zinc; a little above the recommended daily upper limit of 45 mg), and 200 mg of hydroxychloroquine twice a day for 5 days.

The next time I get flu-like symptoms I’m going to follow that regimen using quercetin or EGCG instead of hydroxychloroquine. Both are zinc ionophores, like hydroxychloroquine is, without the side effects or need for a prescription.

Zinc ionophore activity of quercetin and epigallocatechin-gallate: from Hepa 1-6 cells to a liposome model
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25050823

rah
April 2, 2020 8:25 am

Though I have never been one that is big on taking vitamin and mineral supplements, right now in these current conditions I am taking supplements of Zinc and vitamins C,D,E.

As many of you know I am an on-call truck driver. A troubleshooter that gets paid a salary to cover runs on short notice. During these unusual times I am still on-call but I am being required to take regular scheduled runs to justify my salary. I was scheduled to take a Nestles load to Robesonia, PA on Monday. The load departure was pushed back 24 hours then after that delayed until the 7th.

The only other loads they had that were not subject to cancelation were to South Eastern NY and this 64 year old man has no intention of going there right now. My wife’s state of health is not good and I’m not taking any chances of brining something back to her. If their backs get up against the wall and they really need me they know they can call and I’ll come running.

So I took the rest of the week as unpaid vacation That leaves the runs I would have done this week for regular drivers that get paid by the mile and should help with driver retention.

Janice Moore
Reply to  rah
April 2, 2020 2:29 pm

I cisil:

In slightly different terms (wry smile),

I agree completely.

At-risk (or just nervous) people can self-isolate. We do not need to sacrifice our Constitutional rights on the altar of Socialist Tyranny (i.e. “serfdom” – Friedrich Hayek).

LIBERTY – above all.

Otherwise, life is not worth living.

Is life so dear … as to be purchased at the price of … slavery?

Forbid it, Almighty God. …

Patrick Henry

************

This one, largely ignored, fact needs to be plastered on billboards across the land:

MOST PEOPLE DO NOT DIE OF COVID19

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 2, 2020 2:56 pm

Lol. No, I am not doing my best to “plaster on billboards across the land.”

When I opened the comment box to talk to rah, it was filled with the text of my previous comment. Unsure whether it had been sent to the posting queue (where, on a bad day, a comment can wait over an hour to post) and not seeing it posted, I posted it (as it turned out) again.

(deleted all of my grumbling … grrr…. well, almost all)

Simon
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 2, 2020 6:59 pm

Janice
“We do not need to sacrifice our Constitutional rights on the altar of Socialist Tyranny”
So Janice, are you not a fan of Trump? Do you consider him to now be a socialist? Or will you excuse his this small hickup?

Janice Moore
Reply to  Simon
April 2, 2020 8:10 pm

Hellllloooo, Simon! 🙂

1) Yes. BIG fan.

2) No.

3) YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!

Trump is a pragmatic man. To get re-elected, he is doing what the shrieking, whipped-into-mass-hysteria (by advertising dollar-driven news media, mainly – and opportunists like Pelosi), unthinking and/or uninformed, public are demanding: DOOOOO SOMETHING!!

And, really, it would take superhuman faith and resolve to say, “I am just going to trust my omnipotent God that I will be re-elected. ‘Damn the torpedoes,’ I am going to limit liberty only to the extent the DATA directs.”

Bottom line:

TRUMP 2020!

Simon
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 2, 2020 9:19 pm

Janice,
So I just want to be clear here….he is doing what he needs to do to be re-elected? Even though he may not believe it. He is doing it because the media want it and the uninformed public want it?
Have I got all that right?

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 3, 2020 9:37 am

Well, hello, again, Simon 🙂

Essentially, yes.

Note: Trump refused to declare a national shutdown. A socialist would have.

Simon
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 3, 2020 11:30 am

Janice
thank you for replying. But I have a nagging question around what you are saying. If Trump essentially acted as he has to win the next election….

“To get re-elected, he is doing what the shrieking, whipped-into-mass-hysteria (by advertising dollar-driven news media, mainly – and opportunists like Pelosi), unthinking and/or uninformed, public are demanding”

…. hasn’t he (using your thinking) just thrown away trillions of dollars unnecessarily? And that would mean he has used his position to gain politically, instead of working in the best interest of the nation?

And sorry to bother you more, but didn’t Jesus say we should be looking after the sick. If we just went on about our business with this virus (didn’t shut down) Trump is saying up to 2.2 million elderly and sick could die. I don’t think Jesus would be endorsing that would he? Or do you think he would prefer people had the money?

Reply to  Simon
April 3, 2020 11:40 am

re: “And sorry to bother you more, but didn’t Jesus say we should be looking after the sick. If we just went on about our business with this virus (didn’t shut down) Trump is saying up to 2.2 million elderly and sick could die.”

Straight-line extrapolations (which NEVER work out); even now we find treatments that work (BUT government in this country turns out to be the PROBLEM) as well as a vaccine is now within sight. We ALL pull this wagon with our fruitful endeavors and efforts.

Simon, have you taken note of mankind’s progress since Jesus arrived on earth, instituting his church his church and all? I would propose that part of the theology involves “property rights”, a thing little talked about, that has allowed, in part, our progress. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12462a.htm

Simon
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 3, 2020 11:48 am

_Jim
Jim you have turned into Janice. The Lord does work in mysterious ways.

Reply to  Simon
April 3, 2020 12:09 pm

Simon, we all “pitch in” in place of each other at times – this too comes from the Gospel.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 3, 2020 12:18 pm

Simon! Hi! 🙂

1) It is in the best interests of the U.S. that Trump be re-elected.

2) What would Jesus have us do? It is touching that you care, however, that is a purely religious question. If you have a priest or a pastor, he or she is the one for you to ask. Each faith tradition will answer that differently.

While I am happy to tell you how I think “love your neighbor as yourself” should be applied, here, you will want to follow the dictates of your own faith tradition.

Are you, by the way, a believer in Jesus as Messiah/Savior? If not, I would think that what Jesus thinks about it is of no interest at all.

(and… in case you haven’t believed in Jesus… I am praying that you will…)

Take care, Simon.

Janice

Simon
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 3, 2020 1:13 pm

Simon! Hi! 🙂

1) It is in the best interests of the U.S. that Trump be re-elected.

Mmmm using that logic you would be ok with him say…. pressuring a foreign alley to get dirt on a political opponent, because, as long as Trump as he is trying to get himself reelected, then it’s all fair?

2) What would Jesus have us do? It is touching that you care, however, that is a purely religious question. If you have a priest or a pastor, he or she is the one for you to ask. Each faith tradition will answer that differently.

I ask you because you are a religious person. I’m puzzled how you can condemn the old and sick to a early death with the justification it will make those left living better off.

“While I am happy to tell you how I think “love your neighbor as yourself” should be applied, here, you will want to follow the dictates of your own faith tradition.”

I am asking you how you think, so all good.

“Are you, by the way, a believer in Jesus as Messiah/Savior? If not, I would think that what Jesus thinks about it is of no interest at all.”

Brought up a catholic. Well versed in the teachings of Jesus and the logic behind what he taught. And, although I struggle to believe at times, I think the essence of Christianity(as long as it is not twisted) is a path worth following. And, is why I can’t understand how a Christian could let money be a choice over humanity, which is essentially the what seems to be happening at this time (or is at least the choice being put before us).

“(and… in case you haven’t believed in Jesus… I am praying that you will…)”

Thank you. All prayers welcome. A ventilator at this time more so though.

Take care Janice

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 3, 2020 6:38 pm

Dear Simon,

I realize you will still disagree with me, but, I want to make sure you know what I believe. I believe that self-isolation can protect the medically vulnerable as well as (perhaps, even better than) ordering the rest of us to shut down our businesses and or stay home.

Very glad to hear that you were taught so well about Jesus. Do remember that the key is a relationship with Him. Have you ever told Him that you believe in Him? If you ever did (once was enough), He made you His own, His precious, beloved, adopted son, and He will never, never, let you go. No matter what you do. Certainly, you can turn your back on Him, but, He will never stop loving you. You are His.

(See the story of the Prodigal Son — the only time God ran…. “‘while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and … he ran … .'” (Luke 15:20))

And I will see you someday! 🙂

Say, perhaps, I will call you “Peter,” from now on… 🙂

Take care, out there, Peter 😉

Janice

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 3, 2020 6:51 pm

P.S. Simon, are you ill?? (“a ventilator” “welcome”). SO SORRY, if so. Praying earnestly for you (just in case).

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 3, 2020 7:38 pm

P.P.S. Sim, I mean Peter, 🙂

I forgot to address your analogy about the ends justifying the means. The analogy is an apt one, but, it doesn’t hold. Trump’s unnecessary, economy-crippling, actions are not illegal – just unwise and unfair. Using a public office to gather damaging intelligence to destroy a political opponent is illegal.

Thus, while both of the above types of actions are wrong, breaking the law (in a substantial way – not a mere breaking of the speed limit or the like) for political advantage is not okay with me.

Further, he is being extorted into his extreme actions by the Democrats and a news industry eager to see him lose.

As I mentioned before, I don’t expect of Trump (or of anyone) the great faith needed to say, “I will only limit liberty to the extent that the data supports — God will take care of my re-election.” Trump (for all his flaws) is wonderful, but, he is a weak human being, just like the rest of us.

Simon
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 3, 2020 10:51 pm

Janice
thanks for the reply(again). Although we will (probably)never agree on Trump we are not that far away re the virus. You think isolating the vulnerable will be enough, I am not so sure.

Had a friend around the other day and she was black and white on the covid thing. She felt we should not risk damaging the economy or future generations standard of living to keep the elderly safe. Her attitude was the elderly have lived their life, and now have minimal value to contribute to society. They also have reduced years to live. If they have got to 60+ then they have had a good share of things and probably a decent life. It made me think I have to say. But I don’t agree. The quote I hold on to at times like this is “we measure a society by the way it treats the sick and the vulnerable.”

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 4, 2020 7:43 am

Hi, Simon,

Not to belabor, just to acknowledge and affirm, I agree with you. I, too, often “quote” my own (or, perhaps my subconscious is actually quoting someone) paraphrase of that thought:

a society is measured by how it treats its weakest members.

Hoping you are well,

Janice

P. S. That woman needs a heart transplant!

Janice Moore
Reply to  rah
April 2, 2020 2:32 pm

Glad you are doing well, road warrior rah (heh – had to tell my phone to call you “rah” not “ran”).

Praying for your dear one, your wife…

Sorry to hear that she is not doing very well.

Take care.

littlepeaks
April 2, 2020 8:43 am

OT — Last night I was watching Japanese television world news on NHK, and they’re telling everyone to “ventilate” — air out classrooms, homes, etc., to get rid of the virus. Not sure if there’s something to this or not. We get NHK free, over the air, supplied by the Public Broadcasting Network.

Kevin kilty
April 2, 2020 8:47 am

Jim,

Last week I had noticed a local sign on a playground, one of the few playgrounds which couldn’t be locked, and upon reading it learned that our local people are disinfecting playgrounds. I thought this a waste of resources. When I returned home with my kids, I began to look on the internet for sunshine and COVID19. People are bound to be afterward affected with the idea that the world is contaminated. I found a stunning amount of careless thinking. A typical Q/A on a fact checking site, or media site looked like….

Q: Does UV light kill the Corona virus?
A: No. The CDC says that using UV light to disinfect surfaces can be irritating to skin.

Readers of WUWT may notice that these geniuses have failed to answer their own question. The correct response would have been. “Yes, the corona virus can be killed by UV, but a person should not use a UV lamp to disinfect skin as this may cause skin damage.”

So I began to research for what is known about how long the COVID19 virus can survive in sunlight. I was surprised to learn that this is not front and center in this time of panic — it would be good to know how long it takes sunshine in any given place to disinfect a surface.

There is a paper from 2005 in the Journal of Virology which investigated a couple of dozen virus families, and which had a nice table of how long it took UV at 254nm wavelength to reduce the active population to 1/e (37%) of its initial value, and then a translation to sunlight equivalent as sunlight does not have much 254nm wavelength. The range of values is a few minutes to a bit over an hour. Unfortunately corona viruses were not among the list, but this gives one a start about the needed dosage of sunlight.

Something a bit more specific is in the article, Miriam E.R. Darnell, et al, Inactivation of the coronavirus that induces severe acute respiratory syndrome, SARS-CoV, Journal of Virological Methods 121(1):85-91, September 2004.

Here is the flux from their lamp….

The UV light source (Spectronics Corporation, Westbury, NY) was placed above the plate, at a distance of 3 cm from the bottom of the wells containing the virus samples. At 3 cm our UVC light source (254 nm) emitted 4016 μW/cm2 (where μW = 10−6 J/s) and the UVA light source (365 nm) emitted 2133 μW/cm2, as measured by radiometric analysis (Spectronics Corporation).

With this flux the COV-1 virus was attenuated to complete inactivity in about 6 minutes, suggesting a D37 of a couple of minutes. Now, they also noticed very little deactivation using UVA over 15 minutes, and the reason is likely that DNA/RNA only weakly absorb UVA. However, sunlight contains UVA and UVB. From the paper…

UVB can cause the induction of pyrimidine dimers, but 20–100-fold less efficiently than UVC (Perdiz et al., 2000). UVA is weakly absorbed by DNA and RNA, and is much less effective than UVC and UVB in inducing pyrimidine dimers, but may cause additional genetic damage through the production of reactive oxygen species, which cause oxidization of bases and strand breaks (Tyrrell et al., 2001).

There we go. One would think at this point in time one would have far better guidance on this subject than we have. Yet, a 15 minute dosage of UVA is very unlikely to do much to most of the viruses in citation #1, above.

However, in response to Willis’ article yesterday, I wrote about the immuno-compromised person in my wife’s family. The medical advice they were given regarding sunlight was that some hours in sunlight would be sufficient to sterilize surface which could not be sterilized otherwise. BTW, the above article also indicates sterilization in solutions of pH12, which is not at all like the narrow pH range of “Andromeda Strain” fame, or at temperatures above 65C.

Kevin kilty
Reply to  Kevin kilty
April 2, 2020 9:04 am

Darnit, WordPress stripped out the pH range. The COV-1 virus is inactivated at pH12

Also, the UVC lamp flux of 4,000 odd microwatts/square centimeter is 40 Joules per square meter per second. The UVA flux was half of this. In reference 1 from my previous post (Predicted Inactivation of Viruses of Relevance to Biodefense by Solar Radiation, JOURNAL OF VIROLOGY, Nov. 2005, p. 14244–14252 Vol. 79, No. 22 doi:10.1128/JVI.79.22.14244–14252.2005) it look around 400 Joules per meter squared of UVC to reach one D37 for the most radiation tolerant families. One can see why UVA at 15 minutes probably had little effect.

Kevin kilty
Reply to  Kevin kilty
April 2, 2020 9:48 am

I give up…pH less than 3 or pH greater than 12 inactivates the SARS – COV- 1 virus.

rbabcock
Reply to  Kevin kilty
April 2, 2020 11:47 am

UV might not kill it directly but sunlight will heat up a surface and from what I’ve read, it appears about 140F will start to break down the CV. Your skin won’t get that hot, but a lot of the surfaces will go over that as the Sun angle gets higher in the NH.

Betapug
Reply to  Kevin kilty
April 2, 2020 11:51 am

Far UVC at 222nm does not penetrate tissue to the depth needed to cause damage but is efficient at destroying micron dimension viruses in air or on surfaces. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21058-w?fbclid=IwAR20ZGKkxYhCj3XyP3nw_uRb9gRn2plh99uLqH8vQtVB1WLhB-anSS8cr4c

Products are commercially available, including handheld wands which can do no touch sterilizing. https://sterilray.com/landing-page/products/sterilray-disinfection-wand/

The strong herd instinct in the medical profession (as protection from opportunistic carnivore lawyers) may be responsible for the tunnel vision focus on established sources of new treatment for which responsibility can be shifted. It took 50 years for the evidence free “dietary cholesterol causes heart disease” consensus to be quietly abandoned.

Something as simple as safe and effective UVC disinfection may be a harder pill to swallow. https://sterilray.com/2020/02/26/covid-19-shows-disconnect-between-scientific-and-medical-professions/

niceguy
Reply to  Betapug
April 2, 2020 1:25 pm

“The strong herd instinct in the medical profession (as protection from opportunistic carnivore lawyers)”

Lawyers, or just the (self causing) “consensus” enforced by medical boards?

Cops controlled by cops: everyone thinks it’s suspect and problematic. And it isn’t even the same service.
Academics controlled by their own university: OK?
Doctors controlled by medical board of doctors: OK?
Lawyers controlled by lawyer’s bar: OK?

When is self control considered a good thing? For the left, when it isn’t the police.

Reply to  Betapug
April 3, 2020 7:16 am

re: “micron dimension viruses in air”

More like nanometer dimension viruses. 1,000 nm = 1 um (a micron).

Now here’s a question, do the micron-sized particulates in air provide transport for the ~125 nm sized virus ?

(1) Particle diameters ranged from 50 to 150 nm, excluding the spikes, with mean particle diameters of 82 to 94 nm.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1563832/

(2) The virus that causes COVID-19 is approximately 0.125 micron (125 nanometers) in diameter.
https://thewirecutter.com/blog/can-hepa-air-purifiers-capture-coronavirus/

Reply to  Kevin kilty
April 2, 2020 11:59 am

Those UV tubes give out quite a bi of heat. When erasing EPROMs to replace software, the EPROM was hot to touch after 15 mins.

I wonder if they controlled for the heat of the system as well as the UV lite?

Reply to  Steve Richards
April 3, 2020 6:56 am

re: “Those UV tubes give out quite a bit of heat. … I wonder if they controlled for the heat …”

I don’t recall all that much heat being given off; recall that most of these UV erasing lamps are basically florescent lamps but with different coatings on the inside of the glass (IOW, not Tungsten lamps) …

ren
April 2, 2020 8:51 am

A 29-year-old man is in a Washington, D.C., intensive care unit recovering from coronavirus and he has a warning to young people and anyone who thinks they don’t need to abide by social distancing guidelines: “This can happen to you.”

Francis Wilson of Woodbridge, Virginia, was washing his hands often and taking other precautions as the potentially deadly virus spread. He didn’t think he was at much risk. But he got so sick that he was put unconscious for 10 days.

“I had no idea that the symptoms could get that bad for somebody young and healthy,” he said via video call Tuesday from his hospital bed at George Washington University Hospital.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/this-can-happen-to-you-29-year-old-coronavirus-patient-shares-warning/2354408/?_osource=taboola-recirc

Kevin kilty
Reply to  ren
April 2, 2020 9:18 am

Naturally the media would highlight a strange outlier with no useful context attached…meanwhile useful information is nowhere in sight.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Kevin kilty
April 2, 2020 2:42 pm

+1!

*********

Also, they ignore the glaring (because people are ignoring her) ELEPHANT in the room:

with high confidence, observations reveal that MOST (infected) PEOPLE DO NOT DIE (of COVID19).

Berndt Koch
Reply to  ren
April 2, 2020 9:39 am

That’s 0.000000013% of the population of the planet, incidentally it’s close to the same percentage of Temperature rise that will be ‘saved’ by the Paris Agreement

icisil
Reply to  ren
April 2, 2020 10:17 am

Boring. Young people end up in ICUs all the time with no rhyme or reason. Where’s the evidence the virus made him sick? Does he vape? Smoke cigs or pot? Diabetic? Hypertensive?

icisil
Reply to  ren
April 2, 2020 2:48 pm

He sounds like a vaper. I’ve read other accounts of young vapers going unconscious for days in the hospital.

Kevin kilty
April 2, 2020 9:47 am

Mod: I have a post made earlier than 9:18 that must be stuck in moderation? I dunno, but it contained some useful information related to Jim’s guest blog.
Thanks,

J Mac
April 2, 2020 10:30 am

I speculate that the decrease in viral infections associated with ‘seasonal warming’ is actually a response to more sunlight hours of exposure as well as greater irradiation and ventilation of our homes interiors as a result of having the curtains and windows wide open much more in spring, summer, and fall. Correlations of decreasing viral infections with higher temperatures may be indicating temperature is the dependent variable, rather than vice versa.

Poha
April 2, 2020 10:49 am

“vegetable” oil consumption (cheap!) needs study: anecdotally associated with sunburn, and poor Vit D (actually a hormone) blood levels. Don’t eat it coz it is inflammatory and not a real food.

William Astley
April 2, 2020 11:09 am

This is more details on Vitamin D. The important point is the change in US recommendations concerning Vitamin D.

As per my above link, taking vitamin D supplements to raise the level in the blood, of serum 25 (OH)D from 20 ng/ml to 40 ng/ml has been shown to reduce the incident of flu by 50%.

Serum 25 (OH)D is the active molecule in the blood, a hormone, that the body produces from ‘Vitamin D’.

The increase in serum 25(OH)D also reduces the incident of many cancers by roughly 50%.

As noted in the below study, the reason why this was not discovered earlier in studies, is the earlier studies all used a maximum Vitamin D supplement of 400 IU/day.

400 IU of Vitamin D is the amount of Vitamin D that is included all multi vitamins and is amount a person would get from drinking, four glasses of cow’s milk per day.

Vitamin D from supplements has been added to all of the cow’s milk that we purchase at grocery stores to prevent rickets, there is around 100 IU of Vitamin D per 8 ounce glass of milk.

Due to the evidence that there is a strong reduction in cancer rates if the vitamin D deficiency is addressed and pressure from women’s health groups, the US increased the recommended maximum supplement level of Vitamin D to take for the entire population, from 400 UI/day to 1000 UI/day.

The following are the types of cancer that studies where the cancer rates has been shown to be significantly correlated to blood serum 25(OH)D levels and/or UVB.

Lung, Breast, Colorectal, Prostate, Colon, Pancreatic, Leukemia, Ovarian, Gastric, non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma (NHL), Bladder, Brain, Renal, Esophageal, Rectal, Oral, pharyngeal Endometrial Cervical, Gallbladder, Hodgkin’s lymphoma, Thyroid, Vulvar

The study linked to below tested groups with calcium supplements only, vitamin D supplements only, and vitamin D and calcium supplements.

The reason why many people are calcium deficient in addition to being Vitamin D deficient, is in the majority of the rich developing countries, we eat more meat than our bodies are optimum capable of handling which causes a loss of calcium.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3820056/
Molecular Link between Vitamin D and Cancer Prevention

There are a number of reasons why there are so few vitamin D RCTs (Randomized Controlled Tests) reporting a reduced risk of cancer.

One is that for many years, researchers used 400 IU/day vitamin D3. This amount reduces the risk of rickets, but not much else.

It is only in the past decade that many of the non-calcemic benefits of vitamin D were reported.

For non-calcemic benefits, higher serum 25(OH)D levels are required. A second reason is that most of the vitamin D RCTs treated vitamin D as a drug, assuming that other sources of vitamin D were unimportant and that there was a simple dose-response relation between oral vitamin D and the serum 25(OH)D level. In fact, the vitamin D-serum 25(OH)D level relation is nonlinear and eventually saturates [186].

There have been two randomized controlled trials (RCT) using vitamin D and calcium that found a beneficial effect in reducing cancer incidence. The first one was one conducted on post-menopausal women in Nebraska [183]. Those in the treatment arms took 1450 mg/day calcium or 1450 mg/day calcium plus 1100 IU/day vitamin D3 . At the time of enrollment, the mean serum 25(OH)D level was 72 nmol/L.

At the end of the first year, those taking vitamin D plus calcium had a mean serum 25(OH)D level of 96 nmol/L, while those in the other two arms had 71 nmol/L. Between the ends of the first and fourth years, those taking only calcium had a 44% reduction in all-cancer incidence, while those taking calcium plus vitamin D had a 77% reduction.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  William Astley
April 2, 2020 7:13 pm

Vitamin D can be toxic in large doses over time. If you decide on mega doses, do it under supervision of a medical professional.

Clyde Spencer
April 2, 2020 11:55 am

Jim,

You remarked, “If we do not get enough sunshine, sheltering in place just might have the unintended consequence of prolonging the COVID 19 epidemic.” Perhaps exacerbating that, it is my understanding that challenges to one’s immune system keeps it strong. Therefore, isolation may be weakening immune systems. It’s appears to be a “Damned if you do and damned if you don’t” situation!

Snape
April 2, 2020 1:08 pm

On a contrarian note, the first wave of the Spanish Flu peaked in the middle of July. The major peak began in September.

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And right now, COVID-19 is surging in Brazil:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/brazil/

ren
Reply to  Snape
April 2, 2020 1:37 pm
ren
April 2, 2020 1:45 pm

NYC Cases Top 50k, Nearly 1,400 Dead; State Could Run Out of Ventilators in 6 Days
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-deaths-top-1300-as-potentially-catastrophic-apex-looms-later-this-month/2356187/

ren
April 2, 2020 1:50 pm

Louisiana Coronavirus (COVID-19) Information
http://ldh.la.gov/Coronavirus/

james fosser
April 2, 2020 1:56 pm

I was speaking to a fellow named Occam yesterday about the flu season and he suggested that it waned in warmer months because crowds of people were outside in the fresh air and not crowded together in heated shopping malls.

Vuk
Reply to  james fosser
April 2, 2020 3:14 pm

In the UK average annual flu mortality is about 30,000 at 0.1% of all infected, i.e. annually about 30,000,000 or nearly half of UK population is infected. Since all survivors acquire immunity, at this level the ‘herd immunity’ kicks in and virus dies down.
This is kind of scenario that initially was considered by the UK government to be appropriate for the Covid-19 epidemic. However, it was soon abandoned when the government morons were told that the Covid-19 mortality is about 10 times greater i.e. around 1%.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Vuk
April 2, 2020 7:17 pm

VUK
OK, in your opinion 1% mortality is unacceptable, while 0.1% is acceptable. Where would you draw the line at an acceptable mortality?

Vuk
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
April 2, 2020 11:45 pm

Hi Clyde
No you clearly misunderstood or misinterpreted, not even 0.1% is acceptable, that’s why there is the vaccination and hospitalisation but apparently ( I am not expert on any of this) that is the best we can do. Flu mortality varies between 20k and 50k / annum.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Vuk
April 3, 2020 9:41 am

Vuk
Yes, rational people tend to do things to protect themselves, such as develop vaccines. My point is, when it comes to seasonal flues we don’t do much else except treat those who become seriously ill. That isn’t “the best we can do.” We can do what we are currently doing with COVID-19, which has never been done before. We have been reluctant to go the Full Monty with seasonal flues because of the damage to the economy. That is, we have tacitly accepted half-way approaches to controlling seasonal flues to avoid the economic damage, while accepting the loss of life. Yet, when we are now confronted with a disease with the potential for 10X the fatalities, we do 98% of what might slow it down. So, my philosophical question is, at what level of threat do we engage in more than just administer vaccines (and hope for the best) and treat those who become seriously ill? 0.2% potential fatalities, 0.5%, or what? And what are the rationales for making the decision? Nobody is explicitly addressing this question.

Reply to  Vuk
April 5, 2020 6:50 pm

Clyde Spencer April 3, 2020 at 9:41 am
Vuk
Yes, rational people tend to do things to protect themselves, such as develop vaccines. My point is, when it comes to seasonal flues we don’t do much else except treat those who become seriously ill. That isn’t “the best we can do.”

No we could administer vaccines, unfortunately about 55% of the population can’t be bothered to do so. At that level of vaccination we get about 8% of the population catching seasonal flu, perhaps if we got vaccination up to 75% we’d see a much lower incidence of flu. One worst aspect of COVID-19 is the higher incidence of ventilator use and when needed it is needed for about three times longer, which is why the facilities are getting overloaded.

Quilter52
April 2, 2020 6:33 pm

I have no idea whether this actually prevents flu or not but it sure as heck makes me feel better having a little bit of sun on my skin . Getting us through this also means keeping people feeling well and if a bit of sun helps that, it cannot be disadvantageous. And I am not talking about tanning or prolonged exposure, just a bit of fresh air!

J Mac
April 2, 2020 9:41 pm

I second Quilter52’s sentiment!
Today was ‘drizzle, rain, sleet… rinse, wash, repeat’ here in the Great NorthWet. The sun broke through just before sundown, allowing me to get the row boat out for a half hour of delightful, sunset rowing! Wuhan virus be damned, I also had a nice conversation with a like-minded neighbor who was out for a paddle in his kayak. Attitude much improved!

ren
April 2, 2020 11:24 pm

This is great news and testifies to the high effectiveness of real scientists.

As Dr. Mariola Fotin-Mleczek said on Thursday, SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus vaccine has been working since mid-January. The vaccine is intended to be innovative because it uses ribonucleic acid, which contains information about the structure of the protein on the surface of the virus.

https://tvnmeteo.tvn24.pl/informacje-pogoda/nauka,2191/koronawirus-sars-cov-2-nasza-szczepionka-wywoluje-odpowiednia-odpowiedz-u-zwierzat-to-nas-uskrzydla,318956,1,0.html?fbclid=IwAR149TPowu8w5T_l56h51t5p3xNMbsac5mpixEC7P64ZzwprNy2w3-aIxVo

ren
Reply to  ren
April 2, 2020 11:49 pm

SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. “Our vaccine elicits the right response in animals. It gives us wings.”
As Dr. Mariola Fotin-Mleczek said on Thursday, SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus vaccine has been working since mid-January. The vaccine is intended to be innovative because it uses ribonucleic acid, which contains information about the structure of the protein on the surface of the virus.

– We have been preparing it for animal testing since January, and at the same time, the production of this vaccine for human testing started two weeks ago.

ren
Reply to  ren
April 3, 2020 6:05 am

It all began with an unexpected discovery. CureVacs founder, Dr. Ingmar Hoerr (a doctoral student at the time), discovered that when it was administered directly into tissue, the historically unstable biomolecule mRNA could be used as a therapeutic vaccine or agent after optimizationno complicated reformulations or molecular packaging needed.

We built CureVac from lifes building blocks
With a single discovery, CureVac opened the world up to the potential of mRNA to treat diseases and create vaccines. Officially founded in 2000, CureVac is the worlds first company to successfully harness mRNA for medical purposesbecause we saw opportunities where others saw obstacles. Today, were more than 400 passionate people strong, each one committed to using the clinical potential of our proprietary mRNA technology to provide tailored solutions for those with the greatest medical needs.
https://www.curevac.com/about-curevac#

High Treason
April 3, 2020 2:07 am

Ozone at about .02ppm is safe for continuous exposure. This concentration would knock off over 90% of airborne virus particles, meaning vastly lower initial dose. Mortality is linked to the initial viral load. As a bonus, ozone would kill viruses in the lungs, slowing the progression. This would allow the body to produce antibodies before the virus takes hold of the lungs. People with co-morbidities are vulnerable to something like a flu – the last straw. Thousands die each year from the seasonal flu. Shutting down the entire world economy and taking away freedoms is suspect.

Ozone is typically produced by corona discharge!

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  High Treason
April 3, 2020 9:05 pm

Ozone is also produced by SW UV lights.

donb
April 3, 2020 8:42 am

This BBC site discusses role UV light of various frequencies in killing, or not, Covid-19.
Only dangerous UV-C works, and atmospheric ozone filters that out of sunlight.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200327-can-you-kill-coronavirus-with-uv-light?xtor=ES-213-%5BBBC%20Features%20Newsletter%5D-2020April3-%5BFuture%7c+Button%5D

Richard Petschauer
April 3, 2020 9:13 am

Would vitamin D3 work as good as regular vitamin D?
What is the difference between the two?

Rick
April 3, 2020 9:31 am

I’m curious and I haven’t seen an answer yet. How is sun exposure measured?
What amount of skin would you have to expose to the sun to get any D benefit? is more exposure better than less? For example do people in a nudist colony get more vitamin D than your average outside worker?

Reply to  Rick
April 3, 2020 11:31 am

Rick, How much sun depends on your latitude, season, time of day, skin pigment and amount of clothing. Some health advisors think 10 to 20 minutes of midday sun would be sufficient i you had no sunscreen and exposed arms and legs.

Concerned with a return bout of skin cancer, I usually avoid midday sun, but I walk 1 to 2 hours in the early morning and dont use sunscreen.

Your diet may also determine how much sun exposure you need to get enough Vitamin D