Guest post by Jim Steele
I want to encourage people to go outside and get some sunshine. If walks in the park are outlawed, then limited sunbathing in your back yard, or apartment roof tops would help. I don’t give medical advice, but this is a no-brainer, no-regrets suggestion.
Scientists have long investigated why the flu season dramatically ends in the warmer months. One key factor is our immune systems improve when sun shining on our skin produces the all-important Vitamin D. It is a form of vitamin D that is more effective than what is added to our milk.
Researchers reported, “vitamin D deficiency is common in the winter, and activated vitamin D, a steroid hormone, has profound effects on human immunity. D acts as an immune system modulator, preventing excessive expression of inflammatory cytokines and increasing the ‘oxidative burst’ potential of macrophages. Perhaps most importantly, it dramatically stimulates the expression of potent anti-microbial peptides, which exist in neutrophils, monocytes, natural killer cells, and in epithelial cells lining the respiratory tract where they play a major role in protecting the lung from infection. Volunteers inoculated with live attenuated influenza virus are more likely to develop fever and serological evidence of an immune response in the winter. Vitamin D deficiency predisposes children to respiratory infections.
If we do not get enough sunshine, sheltering in place just might have the unintended consequence of prolonging the COVID 19 epidemic. As the elderly become less mobile and spend less time outside, a vitamin D deficiency would only amplify their vulnerability.
April is the time flu infections dramatically fall. Of course, the COVID 19 virus differs from influenza, but our immune system’s ability to fight all viruses is key. Maybe a little April sunshine will minimize the COVID 19 spread and flatten the curve.
Jim Steele is Director emeritus of San Francisco State’s Sierra Nevada Field Campus and authored Landscapes and Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism
Contact: naturalclimatechange@earthlink.net
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Far more sunshine and Covid19 in Italy or Spain than in Denmark, Sweden or Norway.
Scandinavians apparently eat a lot of fish, which can be a good source of vitamin D depending on the type.
Winter flu is different, vitamin D or not still millions get infected. After 2-3 months a ‘herd immunity’ is built up greatly helped by vaccination and lower infection potency.
We should not raise hopes that a bit of sunshine will make much difference, so it is important to employ the more reliable methods of protection.
Vuk, it is not different. Vitamin D can actually prevent you to get flu. I’m practicing it for many years. 30 minutes of sunshine a week on naked body even when there is freezing can prevent you from flu. I have 3 kids and they don’t know what flu is same as me.
glucose competes with vitamin C absorption from blood into cells.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16118484
High serum glucose is not good. Not good news for dietary habits of many in US.
Also compromises antibody detection of antigen activity.
UK’s update is here
Hey Greg … can we please drop the “US is fat and unhealthy” nonsense … to the exclusion of all other nations? The WHO reports that 8.1% of the US population has diabetes … but it’s 8.3% for Europe. The US is no MORE unhealthy as anywhere else in the world. This is just another urban myth which gets repeated as if true. It isn’t. Are there grotesquely, morbidly, overweight people in the US? Have you seen the “select” people of WalMart videos? Ah, hahaha ha ha … I’ve laughed at those too. But that’s not the reality for ALL the people of WalMart. Intelligent people know that … and also know that Americans are NOT less healthy than any other nation
I’ve practiced this for years as well. I won’t say it “prevents” you from getting flu, but you will probably have few if any symptoms. It really is the best “vaccination” you can get as you are infected with the exact strain going around. It’s noted that in Vit D deficient people, the NNT is better for Vit D supplementation than it is for the Flu Shot. There is less benefit for people who are not deficient, but then, they rarely get sick.
For those taking supplement, you have to start in September, taking 2000-4000 units per day. It’s a fat soluble vitamin, so you can’t get an immediate effect out of it unless you do a very high injection (50K units under doc supervision). Research shows that the daily regimen for some reason works better than a weekly or monthly regimen.
I would like to see a report in the Vitamin D status of all the people who been hospitalized with COVID19. I’d be willing to bet there is an association.
You are seriously presenting that anecdote as evidence are you? This is ostensibly a science blog, not Facebook.
If you do not know what it is, how can you be so sure you never get it?
Yup.
For me I went to get my vitamin D shot the minute I landed in Seoul. Nothing new for me, I get one every 3 months. But personally I would avoid giving any folks here medical advice and suggesting anything. They might think going out in the sun or boosting Vitamin D levels was going to make them safe.
As I know Steven, Vitamin D supplies lasts for around 2 weeks max. You can see it exactly when second week of bad weather passes, it is always start of flu spread.
Agree with Steven Mosher
I researched the Vitamin D question in detail a few years ago.
Vitamin D is a proto hormone, so it really is not a ‘vitamin’ as there are more than a hundred microbiological processes in the body that require it. That is why our bodies make it vitamin D when our bare skin is exposed to sunlight.
As we get older, our bodies ability to produce Vitamin D is reduced.
Increasing the blood level of activated vitamin D (Serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25-OH D) from 20 ng/ml to 40 ng/ml was been shown to reduce the incidence of flu by 50%.
It also reduces the incidence of breast cancer, prostate cancer, other cancers, and colds. Prostate cancer is reduced by more than 50%.
The entire population of all most all developed countries are vitamin D deficient. It is not possible in the winter months in Northern countries to produce sufficient vitamin D by sunlight exposure.
In the summer months 30 minutes exposure provided an increase in but did not reach the optimum level. Longer exposure to sun did not change the blood serum level appreciably.
The only people who had the optimum blood serum level (25-OH D) were people who worked outside and the people who took Vitamin D supplements. It is not possible by food selection to get to the optimum Vitamin D level.
Other studies have shown the optimum serum level (25-OH-D) in the blood is 50 ng/ml. There is no agreement as to an upper limit.
We spend our research dollars on cancer treatment not presentation.
This is a video that was produced by a Public Health advocacy group, Grass Roots, that summaries the research about key practical health problems and runs seminars to enable the researchers to present the new research.
The information (graphs from papers) starts 7:38 minutes.
https://www.ucsd.tv/search-details.aspx?showID=29164
There are other diseases that could also be prevented by getting the population to the optimum vitamin D level.
Might not make them safe, could help a bit, unlikely to expose them to nasties and will certainly make them happier
Jim is right. People should get some sunshine every day. nih.gov Even if sunshine doesn’t prevent or cure coronavirus, it leaves you in better condition to fight the disease.
“people should get some sunshine every day.”
Not sure how I am going to manage that in North Norway with three months of darkness per year.
I take vitamin D. Also, there is evidence that the correct artificial light has health benefits, for example:
MarieC
Moonshine?
The most reliable method of protection is a healthy immune system.
And bizarrely, nobody was ever able to prove the flu vaccine is useful…
Are you so f*cking inept you can’t go and FIND anything historical on the efficacy of flu vaccines?
_Jim
April 2, 2020 at 3:19 pm
Can you explain why we still after so many decades and so much straggle waste of time and resources and all this over grown vaccine industry there,
we still do not have and will never have a working vaccine for HIV AIDS?
Any freaking fracking idea why that is?
A vaccine in the end of the day is a vaccine either in the case of AIDS or cold flu!
Maybe you should ask Dr. Fauci, the vaccine guy.
A clue there maybe;
the vaccine antigen can not compete with the natural one.
HIV has no competition what so ever in nature….
while in the other hand, huge competition in nature among cold flu viruses…
which gives a vaccine there some grounds for inflated and fake credit… in appearance.
A working vaccine has benefits only in cases prior to infection from the matching virus,
where the rest above it happens to be only a hyperbole there.
(provided that it is not administered in a wrong moment)
Again the dummy antigen of the vaccine can not compete with the natural antigen, as it wears off quite much faster then the natural one…
especially when considering a huge pot of competition of natural antigens, viruses… there.
When infected by a virus almost in all cases, one remains infected for life.
A vaccine antigen can not stop an infection,
only in “lucky” occasions can temporarily block it,
as the block is not 100% and it wears off quite quickly.
My point here to you… whatever you have read is not full proof, as happens to be biased by the factor of interest there.
Something like;
“we do not want to raise the status to a pandemic, as that means we can not control it,
and therefor have no any much impact on it by whatever means in consideration,
but hey, by the way, still we will firmly and forcefully advice for the implementation of a Global draconian social – economical isolation even after the status raised at
global pandemic.”
Isn’t that some thing hilarious!
cheers
whiten, are you equally inept at doing research as badguy is?
It would seem so. You read too much ‘popular press’, whiten. Suggest a change in diet …
Your replies need to be addressed to badguy. You two are made for each other. Acting together, you can bring about “Idiocracy” that much faster.
_Jim
April 3, 2020 at 5:10 am
Acting together, you can bring about “Idiocracy” that much faster.
————————
The idiocracy rule:
The only working solution always is – electrolytes.
Dude you ok?
Don’t need to be upset and going over thermal there.
If you do not get it, is still ok… not fault of anyone, including u, just nature…
Vuk
April 2, 2020 at 4:17 am
Winter flu, when striking, among other things, subjects the body and it’s metabolism to extra load or even over load.
Sunshine is a free extra energy, which helps the body and metabolism in such a case,
provided that the ambient temperature not low or too low…
much better in the consideration of respiration of energy and also air than closed environments… little but still extra support to metabolism… soothing.
cheers
Sauna
Sport
Good point, viruses are killed by temperature over 40C/102F. In sauna your skin is sometimes hotter than this so viruses in blood through skin have hard time.
Can be mimicked by hot bath.
Interesting, after reading Willis’ article on Japan and Korea having low infection and mortality rates, I wondered if their level of seafood consumption had anything to do with it aside from the masks.
One thing is certain: anyone who eats oysters regularly has all the zinc needed for a healthy immune system. Three ounces of oysters provide roughly seven times the minimum daily requirement of zinc. It’s the best source of any food. I’ve upped my intake for this virus.
I have also taken to drinking tonic water, for the quinine. At 83 ppm, it takes 3 liters to get a therapeutic dose. The stuff I drink is sugar-free, so at least that isn’t a problem.
Spring has arrived in Northern Virginia, and I spend as much time in the sun as I can- just for the vitamin D. Ten years ago, I spent an inordinate amount of time indoor, and developed such severe osteoarthritis that I had to have both knees replaced. Never again will I ignore the vitamin D deficiency warnings from my doctor.
Also, sunshine doesn’t do you any good if you slather on sunscreen, and Italians and Spaniards have more melanin, which reduces vitamin D production in skin.
Explain Africa?
Virulency of Covid-19 is humidity related. The lower humidity the higher spread. It looks like dry air is making lungs more susceptible to virus entering. Probably mucus layer is protecting lungs from virus, in dry air this layer is thinner.
UV is a method of treating drinking water supplies. It destroys microbes more efficiently than free chlorine. So does hydrogen per oxide. Maybe higher concentrations of ozone help. Maybe folks need to add UV lights to their personal space/home/office et cetera. Maybe…. 🙂
The advantages of UV as a sterilizing agent have been known for some time. The French had “sun lamps” and required their use for their soldiers in the Maginot line. Their use was mandatory on US Subs during WW II.
I seems a no-brainer that a mucus layer would keep covid-19 at bay. As a biotechnologist with COPD and constant hawking up gunge throughout the day, I really should get down to the Sydney covid-19 epicentre and mingle with the partying backpackers to see how I turn out (not for the drugs and booze but strictly for science)
That does not explain what is happening in Phoenix AZ, the 5th largest Metroplex in the US. It had the first case in Arizona way back in late Jan. Then nothing until beginning of march. While it has slowly ramped up over the month it is nothing like the other hard hit areas. Did I say Phoenix is low desert so Humidity does not get up the levels recommended until during the summer monsoon season.
There is another factor, UV of sunlight. High UV is destroying virus in the air. Final speed of spread is function of humidity and sunlight UV level. Humid weather wit lots of sunshine is the best.
Patrick MJD,
Could be that darker pigmentation of the skin means that vitamin D is not as quickly made, but on the plus side, chloroquine is more easily available on the African continent than in most Westernized countries.
Northern nations developed ways to cope with D deficiency, lots of fish fat which is source of D Vitamin.
Cloth in front of mouth in cold weather. More solitary way of life.
Paper Bag over head with tears for eyes and mouth = even more avoidance by public if that’s what you’re seeking. Like the grand days of the British Empire – splendid isolation.
Isn’t there some benefit in the extra UV outdoors in strong sunshine?
Rickets is making a comeback in the UK, although it never really went away. There’s no reason to suppose that there isn’t a large segment of the adult population with a significant vitamin D deficiency. A poor summer for sunshine followed by a winter working daylight hours indoors and it can’t be anything else.
Isn’t there a theory that the high incidence of Hemochromatosis inIreland and those of Irish descent caused by a lack of sunshine? Seem to remember reading that somewhere
I recall another known cause of rickets was worried parents slathering the sun block on themselves and their children.
Cod liver is a good source, I remember to got it as child.
There are many factors which lead to strong and weak immune systems, whether someone is healthy or unhealthy. Read Prof J ioannidis
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI
Prof. Dr. med. Sucharit Bhakdi, Facharzt für Mikrobiologie und Infektionsepidemiolgie, leitete 22 Jahre das Institut für Medizinische Mikrobiologie und Hygiene der Universität Mainz.. Der ganze Brief im Wortlaut mit den Fragen, Hintergründen und Referenzen kann hier eingesehen werden: https://docdro.id/23IE5dj
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsExPrHCHbw&feature=emb_title
Perspectives on the Pandemic: Dealing with Coronavirus, a fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data. Dr John P.A. Ioannidis is a professor of medicine and professor of epidemiology and population health, as well as professor by courtesy of biomedical data science at Stanford University School of Medicine, professor by courtesy of statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences, and co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS) at Stanford University. See his thoughts in writing here: https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6MZy-2fcBw
John Ioannidis – Why most clinical research is not useful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uok-7NPFn4k
8 features of research to show it is useful
Madrid is more than 600 meters above sea level.
http://www.aemet.es/es/eltiempo/observacion/radiacion/ultravioleta?l=madrid&f=anual
Thursday’s Covid-19 update here:
http://www.vukcevic.co.uk/UK-COVID-19.htm
Actually Milan and northern Italy is one of sunniest places in Europe thanks to Alps rain/clouds shadow.
Italy has imported a high concentration of Chinese doing textile work. Read.
Yet Florida just told people to stay in.
No, they said stay home. Outside activities such as yard work, jogging/running/walking, walking pets and other non group activities are encouraged.
Also that only applies to “non-essential” people. Examining the list of “essential” businesses reveals that about 85-90% of businesses are considered “essential” so the restriction does not apply to them or the employees.
But in both locations, there isn’t enough sunlight in the winter to produce vitamin-D at the necessary levels.
The process needs UV-B rays and above 35 degrees north, the sun is too low in the sky, according to what I have read.
Madrid and Milan have latitudes in the 40, which puts them around the latitude of New York. Due to distorted maps, people don’t realize how far north Europe really is.
The EU as a whole got a head start to the US of about 15 days with respect to first reported death (see France vs US on Willis’s tab). Here’s a comparison as of about an hour ago using data from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (h/t to Willis):
EU cases ID’d: 468,817
UK cases ID’d: 38,168
US cases ID’d: 245,422
EU deaths: 35,419
UK deaths: 3,605
US deaths: 6,099
The numbers look better for the US now but time will tell if that holds true. Many factors at play here.
Italy or Sweden, they are all deficient in Vitamin D in February/March. Btw. in terms of latitude, even Spain and Italy are pretty far north, as compared to the USA.
Anyhow, Vitamin D is not the only aspect on sunshine and viruses. Higher temperatures mean that aerosols dry up much faster than when it is cold, thus killing off the major transmission vector. UV light on the other side has a strong sterlizing effect, since most “bugs” just don’t have any sun screen.
Sars 1, as opposed to the current Sars 2 pandemic, died off in late spring/early summer of 2003. This is not going to happen this time, since Sars 2 has spread way too far. Yet it the summer will provide desperately needed relief and will buy some time.
Captain Cook who led three world expeditions in the late 1700’s would demand all crew of the Endeavour to go above deck for 20 mins per day, every day…
His voyages never suffered the dreaded ‘sailor’s disease” of scurvy….
Scurvy is caused by a deficiency of vitamin C. Captain Cook, and other British seafarers, kept barrels of apples and limes on board to give to the sailors throughout the journey. That is why the Australians call the British “poms” (from pomme, french for Apple) and Americans call us “limeys”.
As well as helping with the immune system, Vitamin D is also necessary for the absorption of Calcium into the body. The really acute form of Vitamin D deficiency causes “rickets” or deformation of the bones caused by a lack of calcium.
Limeys is correct , don’t get carried away with extrapolating to other fruits which were not carried on ships and other languages little know in 19th c. Australia
How did Vilhjalmur Stefansson avoid scurvy without those crucial citrus fruits, eating nothing but meat? It’s all so puzzling and mysterious!
Was he eating whale skin and blubber? These are also good sources of vitamin C and D.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muktuk
TLM: Pomegranate – RED fruit – Pommy – Red-faced from unaccustomed sunlight ie sunburn……..also POME or Prisoner Of Mother England, an aussie joke more or less.
Brett , a Kiwi
Nothing to do with scurvy, dipstick. Why do think Brits. are called Limeys?
Otherwise they would have sat about playing cards in the engine room.
Studies have proved the benefit of Vitamin D in fighting infections, take vitamin D supplements, even if you think you are getting enough from sunshine or diet, especially if you have non-white skin and live at a mid to high latitude.
Political correctness forbids racial aspects of disease stats, but a youngish hospital consultant and a boy in the UK who have died were both dark skinned, making them prone to vitamin D deficiency.
at least 2 capsules a day, for RA I was given a special dry capsule form @20k iu once a week
made me laugh cos my chemist had a wobbly when I said I took 3k units a few days a week
the lack of sun is why oldies in homes/hospitals are crook n depressed.
It’s long been recognized that girls of south asian descent in the UK were abnormally subject to rickets largely due to their traditional dress rules causing them to so covered up that they received very little sun.
In Italy and Spain they all go around kissing each other, and Sweden is about to get worse. Italy and Spain have been enjoying festivals and man hating marches egged on by Trump hating loony leftist dullards who in those countries pass for Governments.
Have read a couple of stories stating Chinese lab workers etc have been caught a few times bringing vials of virus into America and elsewhere over the last year or so, does anyone know more about this?
“Have read a couple of stories stating Chinese lab workers etc have been caught a few times bringing vials of virus into America and elsewhere over the last year or so, does anyone know more about this?”
Very true. There are some news outlets that have posted arrests recently of such activity. Sorry I don’t have the links.
Border Patrol Stopped a Chinese Biologist Carrying Viable SARS, MERS Viruses at Detroit Airport in 2018
https://news.yahoo.com/border-patrol-stopped-chinese-biologist-194214726.html
Excerpts from the FBI Tactical Intelligence Report here:
https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html
Two other incidences of Chinese nationals carrying viral pathogens into the USA, undeclared in their personal carry-on luggage are also referenced.
Solar UV radiation destroys and crashes the virus. In Italy and Spain, cold lows operate this spring, even with snowfall.
If someone already has shortness of breath, dry air will exacerbate the symptoms of the disease.
Methinks that it’s not just the sunlight, but the dofting of clothing in the Spring/Summer that give viruses few places to hide from the sunlight.
This is why the UK government advice allows for, and encourages, going out for one form of exercise per day, walk, run or cycle, as long as you maintain the social distancing rules. We’ll, that, and the fact they don’t want to end up with another crisis in the NHS because everyone has turned into an lardarse.
And Vicks Vapo Rub cures toe nail fungus.
And clear nail polish will kill a plantar wart. (personal experience)
Is “lardarse” a neologism or a ‘nonce’ word’ or normal English?
The English vernacular is rich and varied. Always a joy to sample.
Lard-arse (or lard-ass in American) is simply a derogatory term for fat, implying lazy, sat on one’s derriere all day, and implys constantly eating junk food. The hyphen being optional in both versions of english. Certainly in common use on the English side of the pond. The word nonce has starkly different meanings in its common usage on either side of the Atlantic!
AKA land whale.
Normal English, Lard is a fat used for frying chips etc so a Lardarse is obese from eating lots of fried food. I find lard very bland and prefer Beef Dripping for frying chips and battered fish.
I first read of “lard arse” when it was used by then Italian PM Silvio Berlesconi to refer quite ungallantly to Angela Merkel
That and fresh air apparently helped with treating those who caught the Spanish Flu
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504358/
Photo from Boston at https://medium.com/@ra.hobday/coronavirus-and-the-sun-a-lesson-from-the-1918-influenza-pandemic-509151dc8065
Massachusetts played a big part in the Spanish Flu.
As always it’s other “cultures”, not the “originating” “culture”. No we can’t point the finger.
Especially important that people with darker skin get out in the sun for a longer time. Darker skin folks do not produce as much vitamin d as lighter skin folks if both exposed to same amount of sunshine.
In fact one reason proposed for evolution causing white skin in northern climates is increased vitamin D from the sun.
That makes vitamin D racist and privileged. the sun also.
/obvious sarcasm
I agree. Maintain a simple healthy lifestyle and practice moderation in all things – including moderation.
We were vacationing away from Wisconsin winter in Floriduh when the dumb mass hysteria pandemic pandemonium struck. We, 81 & 71, were enjoying the Withlacoochee SP bike trail and friends, exercise and sunshine. Then the bike trail was closed for “quarantine and self-isolation not achieving desired reductions” (in what was never said). So we decamped to northern Wisconsin and home and 14 days purdah – uggh! 9 to go.
The backyard thermometer made it to 50°F yesterday. If it is as warm today then I’ll get the tricycles (recumbent high tech) ready to ride, and start clearing the winter trash. Daffodils are shooting through the leaf mat, and the Snowdrops have blossomed, just waiting for sunshine and warmth.
Enjoy a healthy moderate conservative lifestyle.
Can we get some of that 50F over here. Liverpool just now is only 42. Brrrr.
6.8F in calgary
So where is that Global Warming when you need it !
But the MODELS says it’s there…Don’t denigrate the models, their beatified
you could asperge them though
North Carolina daffodils come up in mid-Jan and are long gone by now. We are having an early spring with tulips, azaleas and dogwoods blooming. Even the oaks have leaves and are a couple of weeks ahead of normal. The magnolias are putting out new growth and the wisteria’s purple flowers are hanging in the trees. April is generally a drier, bright blue sky month before the humidity kicks in. North Carolina in April is special. Fortunately we aren’t having it too bad here with CV and everyone still is walking the neighborhoods and greenways.
Spring is an awakening and a time for all things to get better.
Daffodils and dogwood are in bloom in Dayton, Ohio.
Doug,
Is it possible to be excessive about moderation? 🙂
Others here have indulged *culturism*. I am blessed to live in the purest Icelander-Scandinavian community in the US. No virus yet, nor testing, nor communal drinking. Soon though, very soon.
“if walks in the park are outlawed”
Which would be blatantly unconstitutional. So much for the 1st amendment, huh? We’re already so far down the rabbit hole of rule-by-diktat it’s unbelievable.
Yeah, I know we’re in a pandemic. What scares me more, WAY more, is what our government will look like afterwards.
Of the US constitution pretty much only the 3rd amendment has survived. Been that way for a while.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/25/what-good-are-constitutional-rights-if-they-are-vi/
Thank you very much for this Mr Jim Steele. We are following your advice. Not easy for Thais to do because of the social value of light complexion but it is being done now. I spread your message far and wide but a question I could not answer is “who is jim steele?” I searched online but I keep getting this athlete guy.
Jim doesnt give medical advice, neither does WUWT
Steve, keep in mind that many of us are capable of taking whatever is printed here, and elsewhere, and considering it all objectively, investigate it further if we’re interested, and come to informed conclusions. Jim’s excellent articles explaining his position on climate change and a variety of things are interesting and stimulating. I find them a great springboard for further reflection and research.
When you take the time to explain things in a coherent fashion I consider them in the same fashion. The drive-by snark, not so much.
Chaamjamal, It tells you who he is at the bottom of the post.
Mush thinks everyone is stupid, except him, of course.
Jeff
That is his major problem!
That’s correct. When you give health advice people don’t need medical advice.
With the Southern Hemisphere starting its yearly rotation away from direct-sunlight, a daily dose of Vitamin D3 as a supplement couldn’t hurt, unless it is ridiculously large. Studies show that 100IU as supplement generally amounts to 1ng/ml in the blood. 40-80ng/ml is generally recommended as a safe value.
It is possible to OD with ridiculous doses, so if people are taking large amounts as a supplement, they should get the levels tested.
Here’s some data: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d-side-effects#2
Yesterday I contacted some of my “Congress-people.” We will all learn a lot from this current pandemic, perhaps to react properly and prepare beforehand. Opening parks and campgrounds is a good first step (in the South) to ending the flu season.
It is obvious we have not had time to think this out. The last 3 months have been almost perfect in Florida, although a little dry, lately. But ALL of us know the flu season ends when we can get out of doors and avoid stuffy confines. Our children during Spring Break >could< have been controlled if Spring Break had been cancelled (Close hotels/motels at beaches) and beaches patrolled but we didn't know. But we locals are being penalized by being restricted by stay-at-home.
Many of my friends (I'm 77) and I are complaining we cannot get into the parks to ride our bikes and hike, or lie on the beach and absorb UVC. Crazy!
“Many of my friends (I’m 77) and I are complaining we cannot get into the parks to ride our bikes and hike, or lie on the beach and absorb UVC.”
There is a fairly good reason for that at the moment. And a particularly pertinent one given Florida is over represented by elderly people.
There’s actually no good reason for it. Discouraging people from healthy activity is just idiotic. Let those who are scared stay home, and the others can get outside and stay active and healthy.
icisil
“Let those who are scared stay home, and the others can get outside and stay active and healthy.”
But Florida is allowing people to go out for essential services including exercise, so your point is not valid or accurate.
but what are “we” doing? MAKING CLOUDS!! the drippy rain made by The Chemtrail Project is probably going to prolong the virus season. What ar they trying to do – wash it away? STOP THE CHEMTRAILS !!! Stop the drippy rain!!! I am serious: STOP THE CHEMTRAIL PROGRAM.
Oh right “drippy rain” is latest proof of your delirium. When I grew up rain was always kinda “drippy” but that’s just a personal anecdote I guess.
Be warned that subject is one of the things that will get you rapidly banned from WUWT. Stupid misuse of ALLCAPS is also generally despised.
Worry about damage of the shut for a while, it’ll take you mind of it. Besides with vastly reduced air traffic they won’t be able to hide all special flights with hidden tanks, so they will have to lay off for a while !
If we are still allowed to fly in 6 mo , and we’re not all dead, maybe you can go back to staring at the sky.
New small study with control group show hydro-chloroquine to be effective for people mildly ill.
My opinion is it works if given early before disease progression. Seems to not be a cure but prevents patients going critical.
This article not paywalled as NYT took down paywall for covid 19 articles. Article is good, not biased.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/health/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-malaria.amp.html
But governors of NV and MI will punish you for prescribing it or filling such prescriptions.
It’s FDA approved. I don’t think that would apply currently, although I get your point.
So I wonder if those governors will take the responsibility for excess deaths caused by their activism.
One of the problems was that patients being treated for Lupus for which hydroxychloroquine is an approved medication were no longer able to get their prescriptions filled.
Perhaps patients can sue governor over it. These states are handcuffing their doctors and interfering in the patient/doctor relationship. Though if I got sick I would immediately travel to an out of state doctor that is prescribing it. Would also add zinc supplement to treatment.
I think MI guv just changed her mind.
It was more like a tire iron attitude adjustment, applied to MI governor Gretchen (half-)Whitmer by the outraged citizens of Michigan.
Found this at an online pharmacy:
“IMPORTANT! Updated Dispensing Policy for Hydroxychloroquine:
In accordance with Boards of Pharmacies emergency regulations:
We are only dispensing Hydroxychloroquine to patients who have been diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis or Lupus.
Diagnosis code and date of diagnosis for RA or Lupus must be provided by your prescriber.
We are not dispensing for Malaria Prevention at this time.
Doctors prescribing out of scope of practice will be denied.
If you do not have prior diagnosis for RA or Lupus, your order will be cancelled.”
Please state why you imagine there is such a thing as a “chemtrail program”, what it is and who is doing it. Thanks.
None of these ‘chem nuts’ figure the amount of infrastructure (piping and storage) tanks that would be required on airport property to ‘fill’ aircraft, and never mind the pipeline or tankers that supply ‘product’ to fill those tanks from factories or processing plants from off of airport property!
Rationality and reason is NOT their strong suit.
Either that or they believe the chem trails are produced directly from some fuel additive burning, which goes against the theory it’s turned on and off during flight: you would have to turn reactors on and off.
Like with 9/11 truthers, they can’t even convince each others of anything factual (that the gov is lying is not a discrete fact).
re: “or they believe the chem trails are produced directly from some fuel additive burning,”
And that’s bullsh*t on its face, of course. You don’t muck around with strange ‘crap’ injected into your jet turbine fuel and risk blade wearout or other destruction with strange chemical reactions occurring at the high temperature the blades work at. Today’s jet engine power turbine stages are hollow blades in which cooling air flows; don’t muck around with ‘injecting’ anything but fuel into a combustion chamber.
Chem nuts need to become educated on Jet turbine engine technology by the BEST jet engine tech on the block: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUh57rwk3ySElDpzgCDLh9KA
Start with “Turbojet Fuel System”: https://youtu.be/Hu0GOA1RLjQ
For MPM, above.
Put some UV lights (plant growing lights) in your house. I’ve had them for years. Leave them on overnight, over gloves, shoes, etc.
John
Typical “plant growing lights” have a red-blue spectrum, and little if any long-wave UV. Short-wave UV, which stimulates Vit. D, requires a mercury-vapor light.
Africa? Compare the charts of Covid19 outbreaks with Malaria suppression drugs..it looks amazingly obvious the Africans who often take Quinine based anti malarial drugs to prevent disease in mosquito areas have less chance of suffering from Covid19….have a look!
Consider other factors, such as lack of wealth to support travel and testing, but most of all, consider demographics. For instance, the median ages in Congo, Mali and Ethiopia are under 20 years. In Mali, it’s 16 years.
https://www.terradaily.com/reports/Africans_rush_for_chloroquine_as_virus_tsunami_looms_999.html
Correlation doesn’t always mean causation…
I would think that along with sunshine, being outside exposes you to fresh, clean air. Unless you live in New York City .