Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Climate change consistently ranks dead last on people’s list of priorities, only 36% of US people believe humans are “mainly” responsible for climate change, the USA elected President Trump in 2016, but the Washington Bubble still hasn’t gotten the message.
How bad can the climate crisis get if Trump wins again?
US greenhouse gas emissions are up since 2017 and Trump’s administration has ripped up curbs on climate polluters
Emily Holden in Washington
Sun 12 Jan 2020 20.00 AEDTClimate pollution in the US is up under Donald Trump and threatens to undermine international efforts to stall the crisis, especially if he wins re-election this year and secures a second term in the White House.
…
“What they have done is created confusion within the business community and the environmental world as to what are going to be the standards,” said Christine Todd Whitman, who led the Environmental Protection Agency under the Republican president George W Bush. “Essentially every regulation the agency promulgates gets a lawsuit that goes with it, almost inevitably … that’s the only good thing you can say about it.”
Whitman called the approach “mindless” and said “whoever is a bigger donor gets to tell them what the environmental policy should be, it seems”.
…
Andrew Light, a climate negotiator for President Barack Obama’s state department, said the world is taking note of those efforts, but if Trump is re-elected “you are going to see a lot of people who are worried anew about what the US can do.”
Americans choosing Trump would send the signal that they don’t care about the climate, Light said.
…
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/12/climate-crisis-if-trump-wins-again
Here’s my prediction for 2020 – I think Tom Steyer will win the Democrat nomination. Not because he is better or more popular than the other candidates, but because “Clinton Cash” author Peter Schweizer might be about to obliterate most of the Democrat front row.
Steyer will run the climate change campaign he is promising to run – and will lose badly to President Trump, because Trump focuses on issues people actually care about.
Will Washington get the message in 2020?
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
Obama buying a house near sea level on Martha’s Vineyard would send a signal that he doesn’t care about climate change.
Don B, that was the first thing that crossed my mind. Too many of these so called climate activists live on a beach somewhere. If any of them believed any of the BS about climate they would all stop using fossil fuels immediately. Of course their lives would be somewhat less desirable than a family of five living on welfare, relying on government hand outs just to eat. Of course fossil fuels will still be needed to maintain even that lifestyle. So many stupid people so little time.
The second thing that crossed my mind was to feed Emily Holden, Andrew Light, and like-minded idiots to the polar bears, because, you know, they are hungry and can’t find ice for their drinks, or something.
A huge environmental/legal story happened on Friday, and no one has noticed because the MSM have put a complete embargo on it. The New York State’s Attorney General had sued Exxon in State Court, claiming that they had intentionally misled investors about Climate Change, and seeking billions of dollars in damages. It was the most serious lawfare attempt yet. On Friday, the case was thrown out of course, and it will not be appealed. It’s over, Exxon won, New York State lost, completely.
I read about in december….
Thank you
So I suppose a curious person driving by the house of David Middleton this weekend would see the Exxon Ferrari parked in the driveway, and the Jeep Rubicon inside the garage? I think we should have regular reports as to where the Exxon Ferrari or the Jeep Rubicon is parked, this is the best indicator of which way the legal climate change winds are blowing.
There will be others. link
I suspect the New York State taxpayer was the loser in the end game, NOT the lawyers NOR the politicos!
NEVER the lawyers! They designed the legal system so they never lose.
It certainly indicates he is aware there is no climate crisis.
Exactly. It can’t get any better or any worse, because there is no such thing as a climate crisis.
What we have is a Baizuo crisis which, fortunately, appears to be getting better and less embarrassing for whiteys like me.
Perhaps we could convince all the Greens to Write In for Kermit The Frog for President
Or believe in the man made narrative.
Obama purchasing THREE homes (that I know of) … including one in the Palm Springs desert where CA is in the grips of a never ending CAGW drought … suggests he doesn’t care about the climate. Well, TBH … he must like the warm climate in Palm Springs. OTOH … that’s simply what rich folk do with their money.
Im sorry but I dont agree its well known that climate alarmists that live near or on the beach are unaffected by sealevel rise – this only affects everybody else – this is also true of CO2
Well of course Obama has no problems having a house near sea level, after all he’s the one who slows the rising oceans and heals the planet. He said so himself.
Didn’t that other great envirnmentalist Al Gore buy a beach front property for $4M on the proceeds of “An Inconvenient Truth!”? True believers like these always demonstrate just how dedicated they are to the cause, just so long as their own personal lifestyles aren’t affected by their own beliefs & policies! DAISNAID!!!!
Here belongs a Trump pic, with him pointing upward onto the text:
**** like this is why I won.
[edited. Mod]
Standing by to transmit the signal. But not from a lack of care about the climate. It’s from a sense of duty to counter the misdirected claims that there is a crisis at all. Let’s see what happens.
Agree! To all the Obama psychophants that would tell others how to think or vote, I have a ‘one handed’ signal for all y’all!
And here’s another ‘one hander’ salute to your failed “…don’t care about the climate” attempt at a guilt trip! ‘How copy? Over..’
Maybe Obama should tell people to vote for Greta instead. No surprise here that it is her dad writing her posts….
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youve-scripted-my-childhood-facebook-glitch-reveals-greta-thunburgs-father-posting
Which Greta ? Greta/Svante or Greta/Adarsh ?
Maybe Obama should invite Greta and Leo and the polar bears and Al Gore to his beach side home where they can all join hands standing on the shoreline singing Cum-Bay-ah and waiting for the sea to wet their soles ( or souls).
“Americans choosing Trump would send the signal that they don’t care about the climate” No, Andie, it will signal Americans are not believing lies spewed by liars. The climate is doing what it has always done and will continue to do so despite what anyone has to say about it. DJT is going to be reelected, and the more leftists screech&wail about it the larger the margin will be. I am so glad leftists/greenunists are too stupid to simply shut up.
Actually, that’s exactly what it shows – they don’t care about the climate. They have jobs to go to, kids to raise, houses to pay-for and lives to live; “climate” is ‘way down their priorities list, and they couldn’t be bothered losing sleep about a great natural process that nobody understands and that they couldn’t do anything about, even if they wanted-to and knew what should be done.
Good old American common sense for the win – another triumph brought to you by Donald J. Trump.
The winning, it burns!!!! Still not tired of it, yet.
you better hope so
word on aussie media was Meghan wont come back to usa while Trumps president
so hope she stays in canada and they foot the bills for her
and Trump spares you her as well as the warmist crap.
Personally I think Her Majesty should have the strumpet droned, then Harry could spend his life as the Royal Widower. Charles can’t last forever.
The only people who give a rat’s axx about climate change are those who are lining their pockets with the public’s hard earned money. I think Steyer fits nicely into that category.
I think and certainly hope that he’s losing money on his current phony crusade. Please tell me I’m not suffering from confirmation bias.
It is believed Al Gore’s current net worth is around $300M. Quite some improvement from $700 000 when he started his CAGW crusade.
I care very much for the climate which is why I’m a strong supporter of Global Warming.
The alternative to Global Warming is much worse.
only 36% of US people believe humans are “mainly” responsible for climate change,
What percentage think CO2 is a problem?
What percentage think?
Well, half are below average, like you.
Any particular reason for that duesch-bag comment?
Or are you just being yourself?
The motivation is clear once it’s noticed that nearly all of the 36% are aligned with the political left and more often than not, the lunatic left.
Perhaps mainstream Democrats are noticing how politically polarized the issue is and starting to consider that maybe the science isn’t as settled as they think, as the nature of legitimate science is that it can only be controversial when it’s not well understood. It should be even more clear that the proposed remedies are a waste of time, money and resources that will have absolutely no effect on the climate, even if the IPCC’s impossible claims were true.
It doesn’t take much due diligence on the IPCC’s reports to be convinced that misunderstood science is all they have, moreover; their many misunderstandings seem intentional and are all in the same direction of supporting the ‘destroy and/or steal American wealth’ agenda pursued by the UNFCCC.
co2
Thanks for the very succinct analysis of the controversy. I began to look closely at the situation during the hockey stick era and continue to pay attention to the catastrophic anthropomorphic global warming movement, a most incredible episode in the history of science.
Fortunately, I had been educated to critically analyse scientific papers (in addition to writing and editing same) and had used solid and fluid earth computer models for practical purposes.
I read Roy Spencer’s book, Blunder, while sailing and crusing and it caused me to think differently about those afternoon thunderstorms rising 50,000 feet to the top of the troposphere, releasing energy to outer space.
Very sad and very frightening to realize that CAGW is 90% hype and propaganda enclosing a kernal of science. The scientific method has been hijacked.
“catastrophic anthropomorphic global warming”
I think you mean anthropogenic.
Actually, I care very much about the climate. I am certain that billions of people resorting to burning wood, trash, and dung to cook and heat their homes in the wake of a destroyed electrical grid and economy would be very bad for it.
Maybe we should all be a little more respectful of the man whose uncle liberated Auschwitz
https://youtu.be/SV1sxq8mqvA
Except that the Russians liberated Auschwitz
https://youtu.be/Qh1dQsfRro8
He also stopped the rising sea level.
Not the Soviets?
That must have been Obama’s Uncle Putin. Now we know the Russian link with the DNC.
Oh its gretas friend, obama 😐 Lets all become amish and be like greta and obama 😐 sarc
I agree, it would send the signal they don’t care about sorcery like they do in the old world. Gosh, I’m shocked!
Christine Todd Whitman IS a Democrat. She joined the Democrat Party when Donald Trump won the Republican nomination for President of the United States. WHY do these less than stellars continue to quote Democrats as if they have something to do with Republican Presidents?
I have no doubt that she had been voting mainly Democrat for years. Even when serving under Bush.
Christine Todd Whitman was always a RINO but I don’t know that she ever did switch parties. She said she wouldn’t support Trump and would vote Hillary – that’s not the same thing as changing her party affiliation, Luke. Do you have any source that you can link to that shows she did officially change her party affiliation?
As to why these “less than stellars continue to quote” RINOs, it’s because RINOs will give them the soundbites they want to hear.
Al Gore’s San Fran place doesn’t exactly signal rising sea levels, either
You may be quite right in your prediction. The previous almost decade long administration in the U.S. opened the floodgates to just about any cockamamie theory of how to control nature. The MSM became the mouthpiece and we are still inundated with climate change nonsense about some far future day.
But it is the corruption that drives this onward. Huge companies backed by immense government funding that have an idea only to go belly up and no one goes to jail. No one responsible has gone to jail for anything in the last 30 years, or more.
“Climate pollution in the US is up under Donald Trump”
Now that’s funny … because we are doing more to curb emissions than anyone else. Why? Fracking & natural gas displacing coal. We are actually the leader in reducing GHGs as a percentage of economic output.
Funny the author didn’t mention that !
“Climate pollution”? WTH!? Sounds like an oxymoron such as … “jumbo shrimp”
Choosing Trump would signal they care about the decline of reproducible science and are concerned about agenda science and over reach administrations run by advocacy groups.
People choosing trump simply send a signal they don’t believe the hype.
Sensible people don’t care about the climate because there is nothing they can do to change it.
Humanity will have to deal with it when we descend into the next 100,000 year freeze. I suspect that we will be able to deal with it easily and the species that would otherwise go extinct will rejoice, metaphorically speaking, at the existence of life with brains.
I don’t know how it will materialize, but I would think it would be easier to divert a bit of extra solar to our wonderful planet than to do surface nuclear.
…. or both.
Indeed, Humanity will deal with it when the time comes. Dealing with it means adapting to it, not changing it. Man does not have the power to change the planet’s climate/temperature. at best man can modify the local conditions through stuff like land use changes. local not equal global.
A lot of New Yorkers are moving to Florida, partly due to climate.
Tactics used by the Democrats to get the ‘soft vote’ are being revealed by Larry Nichols, who was closely involved with the Clintons. Now, Larry Nichols is determined to spend the rest of his days exposing these devious strategies. He insists that the American people who normally do not vote or who are severely uninformed, will be enticed, probably financially somehow, to go out and vote for whoever is the most popular Democratic candidate. He’s speaking out at Crowdsource the Truth@csthetruth.com with Jason Goodman.
Understanding tactics is key.
Listen for yourself:
https://twitter.com/csthetruth?lang=en
If Trump is re-elected it will be because voters don’t care to have their taxes spent tilting at windmills, or to have their standard of living dramatically eroded in a feeble attempt to appease the weather gods. It will also be because they are smarter and more grounded in reality than the unicorn-riding far left socialists.
Trump is an arrogant, horrible guy. Still much better than Democrats. The sad theater they arranged with the impeachment – most of the process would be inadmissible even in a small claims court. Go lesser evil. (Actually, as bad as he is, he has a lot of common sense, something that eludes the “progressives”.)
He may be arrogant, but so are many other successful businessman and most politician. He just chooses to be brutally honest, especially when he’s right. I don’t see that this makes him a horrible person. In fact, I find honestly a refreshing change coming from a President.
Being honest about the consequeces of policy is what matters and not how the media portrays the person driving the policy. By this metric, Obama was a far more horrible President than Trump can ever be. Note that this doesn’t mean that Obama was a horrible person.
The idea that Trump is a horrible person is an invention of an MSM that’s in the tank for the Democrats where like any ideologue, lying about the opposition is their primary weapon for gaining support.
Let’s not argue on technicalities. Trump was not elected because he pretended to be a gentleman – he never did. He was elected as a lesser of two evils. And I hope he will get elected again.
My position was, and is, if you want to get rid of lying, corrupt SOBs, you don’t send in a Saint. You get the meanest bad a$$ you can find who will fight them.
If you look at past Presidents in our (or at least my) lifetime, you will find an inverse relation between character and effectiveness. Carter was our most ethical President, and our worst, followed, arguably, by Obama in both categories. At the other end of the scale, you have Trump and Johnson (blew Viet Nam, but effective as hell at getting legislation passed).
A congenial and nice person makes a lousy head of state.
What the heck was ethical about the Obama mal-administration?
MarkW:
was our most ethical President, and our worst, followed, arguably, by Obama in both categories.
Obama was the worst in both categories.
I had to read it twice to get the gist of it as well.
Not his administration; Obama, the man. As far as I know, he, personally, was not involved anything slimy, didn’t grossly insult people, engage in financial mischief, or play sex games while in office. But he was incompetent, not knowing, or did not want to know, the misconduct of those around him. Virtually every department under him had a scandal, and he seemed totally oblivious to them all.
I’m sure many believed he orchestrated at least some of them, but I don’t think he was intelligent enough to do that successfully. If you listened to him unscripted (no teleprompter), he sounded dumber than a box of bricks.
He may have sounded dumber than a box of bricks, but don’t let that fool you. He’s had enough less than savory associations (weather underground terrorist Bill Ayers ring any bells? How about the radical preacher Jeremiah Wright?) that it’s hard to believe he’s as totally oblivious to what they and the people he surrounded himself with in office where all about as you seem to think.
There is an important technicality, which is that Trump is not motivated by evil intentions. He’s the most free market President we have ever had. He’s portrayed as evil by the left and its MSM, not because it’s true, but because they don’t like his free market policies, yet can’t defend their own Socialist policies in light of what his have already accomplished, so all they have left is to disparage him in the hope that enough will believe that the false rhetoric is true. Just look at the many things he has been accused and subsequently exonerated of, all of which were manufactured to project false evil. Many still even believe that the panoply of false accusations have merit.
On the other hand, the motivation of the Socialist left is not so benign, not because idealized Socialism is evil, just that it’s unachievable because it’s incompatible with the free markets and individual freedom America was built on, so they hide this truth behind imaginary benevolence that they know can never be achieved. When you press them that what they want is far too expensive to ever be achieved, the response is often something like “So what, the point is to change the system”, and this sentiment clearly illustrates their evil intent.
The socialst left is not trying to create idealized socialism, whatever that is. They’re trying to set themselves up as oligarchs with all the power and all the money.
Indeed Cube, when they say Socialism just hasn’t been done right before, what they really mean is it wasn’t done right because they weren’t the ones in power. As long as they’re the ones in power it’s “done right” as far as they’re concerned, no matter the fact that the end result will be the same as all the other failed attempts.
Even after I began to approve of the Trump administration’s execution of his agenda (that was the biggest surprise, the New York Democrat that ran on the Republican ticket actually set about keeping his promises!), I still believed Trump was a horrible person. Until I resolved to stick with facts only. Now his 3 marriages and 2 divorces, with admitted infidelity/ies during the first two marriages, certainly proves he is fallible (he probably believes he doesn’t make any mistakes, that’s how he meant to do it), but other than that… Even the worst evidence against him, such as the Access Hollywood tape, I can believe something in the middle, such as he found that he could get by with such stuff, maybe even did it once or twice, but if he is a serial abuser of women, there would be a line of accusers, just as there is with Harvey Weinstein or Matt Lauer or Jeffrey Epstein (who didn’t kill himself) or Mr. William Jefferson Clinton. I am aware of Stormy Daniels, but the more I hear about her the more she looks like an opportunist without Mr. Trump or any of his advisors saying anything more than “I have done nothing wrong”, unlike what comes out of Shrillary’s mouth when asked about Juanita Broaddrick or any of the countless others (Shrillary has actively worked to smear, destroy and even imprison every accuser of WJC, and she’s not even subtle about it, you can see her tracks!).
Even less leftist outlets (I’m looking at you, Fox News) use the same lies over and over and over and over… Every time they talk about the President’s phone call with Zelensky, they include the paragraph, “…Trump’s efforts to press Zelensky to launch politically related investigations — regarding former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter’s dealings in Ukraine, as well as issues related to the 2016 presidential election. The president’s request came after millions of dollars in U.S. military aid to Ukraine had been frozen, which Democrats argue shows a “quid pro quo” arrangement. Trump has denied any wrongdoing.” Which is not what was said!!! At all!!!
The transcript states (in part, I mark my skips with ellipses enclosed in brackets thus […]), “The President: […]I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair. […] There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that… […] Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me.” Clearly, he’s talking about the firing of the prosecutor, and the fact that Biden himself was bragging about getting him fired!, throwing in Biden’s son I guess just to emphasize which case he was talking about. Zelensky’s response doesn’t mention either Biden, but does say, “..specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue…” Rather than “…mentioned…” a better word might have been “…referenced…” because Trump didn’t say the name of the company, but it seems to me that Zelensky is making it clear he knows Trump is talking about Burisma, which he was. So why does Fox News keep repeating the lie? Their description is much closer to Adam Schiff’s fictional narrative, not to what actually happened! And nowhere in that do I find any mention or even hint of quid pro quo! Even Zelenskyy has said so!
That was kind of an aside, but still relative to what we “know” about Donald Trump is hardly based on fact. The claims of racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist, anti-Semitic, phobia-of-the-week, none are supported by even The New York Times own reporting, and often are contradicted (viz the anti-Semitic thing, but look at policies towards Israel, most especially moving the embassy to Jerusalem!)!!! I guess we have to wait for one of the family member’s (I’ll bet Don, Jr. will be first) “unauthorized biographies” to find out what kind of a man he really is!
I would say that there is one common thread that unites progressives. It is delusional beliefs in what they like the sound of over the hard facts of economics, science and engineering, and observable reality.
Reality is not their business, protected from it inside the cocoon of economic and engineering reality they are determined to destroy to deindustialise the world and return its ever safer and more properous populations to mediaeval feudalism..
I’m still trying to figure out why Pelosi believes that not sending the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate is supposed to put pressure on the Republicans.
They’d rather not deal with them, so Nancy not sending not sending them over is just what they want.
Yeah, threatening to not give someone something that they really don’t want anyway is not the best tools for gaining of leverage. Ironically by delaying as she did, it’s not Trump that the maneuver hurts, instead she’s guaranteeing that the farthest-left candidates (warren & sanders) will be stuck in DC instead of campaigning in IOWA in the run-up to the caucuses.
Every day that she delays sending the articles over, for political reasons, just emphasis’s that the entire process is political.
Well now we know the real reason she delayed. She was waiting for her order of commemorative pens to arrive. /sarc
Hehehehehehe, she continues to beclown herself, along with all the others. I would pay good money to view security video of her and the rest of the lowlifes on 11/4/2020.
It’s all about control – she still has her hands on it. And it prolongs their messaging in the press.
In reply to:
Trump is an arrogant, horrible guy.” …. So says the Fake news and Hollywood, 24/7
Trump has the courage to change things and to question things that are not in best interest for the American people. For example, open borders or spending money on green stuff that does not work.
Trump for example was worked to reduce mandatory sentencing for simple drug users and first time offences.
Trump has skin thick enough to take 24/7 attacks such as the famous Democrat (The Clinton campaign paid someone to create the completely false story that was then included in the FBI request to spy on the Trump campaign) fabricated story that Trump met with Russian prostitutes giving Russia leverage over Trump. Completely false, absolutely made up.
Press oversight helps stop corruption. There was zero press oversight during the Obama administration.
In reply to: Here’s my prediction for 2020 – I think Tom Steyer will win the Democrat nomination. Not because he is better or more popular than the other candidates, but because “Clinton Cash” author Peter Schweizer might be about to obliterate most of the Democrat front row.
Interesting prediction. It will be interesting to see what Peter Schweizer has found. The fake news is pushing Pete Buttigieg as the Democrat saviour.
The fake news likes Buttigieg because he’s gay and for much the same reason they gushed over Hillary and Obama. They need to demonstrate how tolerant they are about which identity group someone belongs to, as long as they follow the party line …
Peter Schweizer’s “Profiles in Corruption”…
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/01/12/profiles-in-corruption-hits-1-on-amazon-10-days-before-book-release/
…looks to be an interesting read. Thanks for the link, Eric.
It’ll be available for Amazon Kindle, too:
https://www.amazon.com/Profiles-Corruption-Abuse-Americas-Progressive-ebook/dp/B07X1K1GLM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1I1LMH5AJF9UE&keywords=profiles+in+corruption&qid=1578931221&sprefix=profiles-in-corruption%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1
Regards,
Bob
Another solid reason to vote for Trump!