Recently, this billboard was spotted in the DC Metro Subway by Heartland Senior Fellow Edward Hudgins.

The implication is that more carbon dioxide—produced from driving your car instead of taking the Metro—will have the effect of making grapes smaller and therefore affect wine production levels and perhaps quality. This 2014 paper, “The impact of climate change on the global wine industry: Challenges & solutions,” suggests a wide range of negative effects on the wine industry due to “climate change” resulting from increased CO2, but it also offers solutions.
The source of this concern is an abundance of research articles published in recent years that suggest crop yields will be reduced as ambient atmospheric CO2 concentrations increase. Yet in spite of these warnings, we have clear evidence that crop yields of all types throughout the planet have dramatically increased in the past 50 years, while CO2 levels have increased. Some of these trends are due to better farming and irrigation practices, some due to selective breeding to make better varieties that have higher yields and increased resistance to diseases, and, yes, some of it is due to increasing CO2 in our atmosphere that allows for more efficient photosynthesis and better internal plant water management.
After all, isn’t the latter reason why many greenhouse operations inject highly elevated levels of CO2 into their greenhouse operations? Here is an excerpt from a Canadian report on Carbon Dioxide in Greenhouses:
Carbon dioxide (CO2)is an essential component of photosynthesis (also called carbon assimilation). Photosynthesis is a chemical process that uses light energy to convert CO2 and water into sugars in green plants. These sugars are then used for growth within the plant, through respiration. The difference between the rate of photosynthesis and the rate of respiration is the basis for dry-matter accumulation (growth) in the plant. In greenhouse production the aim of all growers is to increase dry-matter content and economically optimize crop yield. CO2 increases productivity through improved plant growth and vigour. Some ways in which productivity is increased by CO2 include earlier flowering, higher fruit yields, reduced bud abortion in roses, improved stem strength and flower size. Growers should regard CO2 as a nutrient.
That said, I looked specifically at how grape size would be affected and found a University of California Davis paper that specifically addressed this issue. In “Berry Size and Yield Paradigms on Grapes and Wines Quality,” the researchers concluded:
Myths are creative explanations similar to scientific hypotheses, and when not subjected to scientific tests they can become perfect hypotheses that explain perfectly what they are supposed to explain. Here we evaluated with data two longstanding and widely held paradigms of viticulture for which there had previously been little quantified observations: large berries and high yields are inferior. The data are clear in that the results of independent means of changing berry size and yield produced qualitatively different results. This renders the generalizations asserted in both of the paradigms untenable. The high yield, low quality paradigm may be applicable to environments in which sugar accumulation is limiting factor because reducing crop generally increases the rate of increase in sugar concentration in the remaining clusters. We draw these conclusions about the dependence of composition on yield and berry size: the viticultural practices used to control yield in a vineyard are more important than the yield values per se in determining the quality of the resulting grapes and wines; and the environmental conditions determine berry size are more important the size per se in determining the quality of the grapes and resulting wines.
In other words, the practices of the viticulturalist have more of an impact on the quality of berries than anything else, and larger grapes sizes aren’t necessarily better for wine production, despite what the myths promoted by the DC Metro might suggest.
So, whom would I trust on wine? The DC metro or the vitculturalists and researchers themselves?
I’ll go with the vitculturalists every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Salud!
Right, larger gapes most have more water….
Larger is better for selling – the right sugar content is better for eating
Regards –
Former sweet cherry grower
This talking about wine not table grapes.
The existing paradigm is that large bloated grapes ( excess watering or fertilising to maximise per acre yield ) are inferior in quality for wine production. One key factor is sugar concentration which determines final wine alcohol level. Over irrigation is basically a means of watering down your wine.
The cited text says this is “not necessarily” the case since other factors are important. I don’t see it saying it is incorrect.
Smaller grapes are generally a good thing , so the climate worriers can stop worrying about the quality of the wine going down as the world burns around us.
Have you ever wondered why your meat shrinks so much when cooked (It does normally, yes. But do you see how much water comes out?). Water is added to increase weight to, literally, pump up volume (Price).
“The cited text says this is “not necessarily” the case since other factors are important. I don’t see it saying it is incorrect. ”
Yeah, not incorrect, it is just BS.
“could’ no need to read further.
Hear hear.
The best European and North American wines are produced in the hottest weather. The Viking warm saw wild grapes growing in Nova Scotia. Fermentation produces CO2, and if the subway wasn’t a filthy, polluting, multi-billion dollar cost sink, it would still be a miserable ride — even without a functionally illiterate poster.
We have wild grapes growing well, now, here in southern New Brunswick. The best area I have found is on Goat Island in Grand Lake.
Tony.
Climate Scientists need SOMETHING to WINE about
You mean “Climate Buffoons” don’t you?
Yet another sign that the upper-middle-class has been “educated” beyond their intelligence.
Does riding the metro even reduce CO2 emissions?
You have to try and hold your breath for the entire journey to be truely green. Greta tried it on a recent train trip but she found she had to sit down at times on the floor to recover.
Crowded and confined spaces increase CO2 concentrations in the range 800ppm/v +. In the picture I saw, she was all alone, apart from the photographer. So much for over-crowded public transport she was complaining about.
Try Tokyo, Japan, or Honk Kong, or the Victoria line in London.
Surely it is better to have small berries for those high tannin wines that you cellar? I’m guessing that is where the myth started. Old production methods required high tannins for wines to keep for long periods.
Why would one “Keep” wine? seems . . . . counterintuitive, counterproductive, and a crime against fellowship.
Why would one “Keep” wine?
Show off their wine-cellars?
Just like the fellow who has more cars than he can drive or the woman that has more shoes than she can ever wear, we tend to buy more of the things we love than makes sense to someone who does not share our appreciation. I don’t find a cellar with a couple thousand bottles of wine, counter intuitive nor an obstacle to fellowship. Quite the opposite, it all makes total sense to me. No one other than my family has ever seen the wine, it is just a pile of boxes. A good friend at the age of 95 asked me for advice as he ordered twenty cases from me. “But, Tom….how well will it age?
Well of course it does.
Bless their little hearts.
Sorry to be off topic a bit, but grapes of wrath fits.
Surprise! Greta Thunberg BIOPIC reveals cameras were rolling from day one of her ‘viral’ rise
Teenage environmental activist Greta Thunberg is the subject of a forthcoming documentary film – made by a crew that has followed her since the early days of her school strike. Still believe her rise to fame was an accident?
https://www.rt.com/news/476133-greta-documentary-rise-to-fame/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Her Grand Father is an actor, her Father is an actor…
Wait till you see this…
https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/signs-times/greta-thunberg-prophet-advent
Real science has superseded my early catholic upbringing. Tell the Pope he doesn’t need to excommunicate me, I did it all by myself.
john
Surely you aren’t suggested that her ascendancy was orchestrated!
That was obvious after she made news and I researched her parents. This was well planned and orchestrated with, IMHO, and quietly with market makers, central banks and political/religious entities.
What I look forward to is the infighting over money and various rights, trademarks and such which are guaranteed to crop up soon🤣
That was obvious after she made news and I researched her parents. This was well planned and orchestrated with, IMHO, and quietly with market makers, central banks and political/religious entities.
What I look forward to is the infighting over money and various rights, trademarks and such which are guaranteed to crop up soon🤣
Going back to grapes, that’ll be a Mars thingy.
https://www.elitedaily.com/p/georgias-ix-millennium-project-to-grow-wine-grapes-on-mars-is-out-of-this-world-15725332
I wonder if the ‘almost Alzheimer’s’ affectation the Left is so proudly pushing is planned or real?
I hear Testofen will off set any climate effect on your grapes.
It’s a joke, friends. “Wine” not take Metro? Get it? I live in DC, there are a half-dozen variants on this theme, all with a lame pun as a kicker. The point is to get you to ride the train.
Can’t let a good opportunity go to waste 😁🏴
Seems more like they’re going off the rails on a crazy train.
ht/ Ozzie Osbourne
The logical conclusion is that the grape growers should ferment fewer grapes to reduce their CO2 emissions so there will be more grapes.
‘Could’
So by exactly the same logic CO2 ‘could’ (and probably will to be honest) make grapes bigger.
So… again by the same logic, why emit with pride?
CO2 Positive and PROUD
But more CO2 will probably increase the sugar levels as well. After all, that is the product of photosynthesis.
I feel some personal research coming on! I’m going to jump into this with both feet! My wife won’t stop me this time. Isn’t science wonderful?
Switch to rum and drive your car. Sugar cane grows better when it is hotter.
As long as hops are OK, I’m not going to get hopping mad.
(Are they so desperate that they’re trying to scare the winos now!!)
I don’t think any among us doubt it GT’s ‘meteoric’ rise is a highly orchestrated campaign, we just wonder just how much she is in control of her own destiny, or manipulated by those around her. Probably a bit of both.
I always pitied the children of doorstepping zealous religious groups who dragged their offspring around with them to try to guilt us into their spiel. They never got anything more than a polite ‘no thanks’. I doubt that chastising the parents or guardians for their behaviour would have swayed the children much, better they see the ‘client’ as polite and pleasant, not the sinners their parents try to portray.
” many greenhouse operations inject highly elevated levels of CO2 into their greenhouse operations”
plants get all the press….try growing algae or plankton cultures without it….can’t be done
i thought the best wines were typically made in bad weather years with smallish but we flavored grapes?
For red grapes the flavor is in the skins. High quality requires small even berry size. Overcropping on the other hand is simply a matter of adding water.
“This 2014 paper, “The impact of climate change on the global wine industry: Challenges & solutions,” suggests a wide range of negative effects on the wine industry due to “climate change” resulting from increased CO2, but it also offers solutions”
The explanation of the oddity that all climate impacts are bad, that all bad things are climate impacts, and that in the science of climate impacts there is no good impact and no attribution failure in the face of large uncertainties is that climate science is not unbiased objective scientific inquiry but agenda driven to provide the rationale needed for a pre-determined climate action agenda. The climate action agenda is not made to fit the science but rather it is the science that has to fit the climate action agenda
https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/06/21/climate-change-impacts1/
Well if this is a warning about the vintage trampled out where the grapes of climate wrath are stored, then I am going to go and loose some fateful ‘carbon’ with my terrible swift Ford…
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I’ll get my coat
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Global warming/climate change/climate emergency is really just another marketing gimmick.
Hmmm… CO2 is turned into sugar in grapes, whether they go into wine production or not. More CO2 means a higher sugar content and subsequently, a better fermentation process. If they don’t have enough sugar to go into the fermentation vat and then the barrels, they are sold as table grapes, as well as turned into raisins. And frankly, the smaller the grape when it ripens, the more concentrated the sugars are.
So what was the complaint, again? Are these people really so dumb that they desperately HAVE to let us know just how little they know about plants, for starters, and the whole grape/wine business overall?
This is ridiculous. What a bunch of quacks they are!!! They never miss a chance to let us know how very – well, uninformed – they are, do they? (‘I’m being nice. Not sure they’re worth the effort.)
Now if only I could find one last bottle of Lost Cellars White….
“If they don’t have enough sugar to go into the fermentation vat . . . sold as table grapes ”
Not likely. Most table grapes sold in the USA (elsewhere, I haven’t a clue) are seedless.
Classic wine types**, such as Sangiovese or Cabernet Sauvignon , have small seeds (pips). Watermelon seeds are better for a spitting contest.
Low sugar musts can be mixed with those with higher sugar or sugar can be added. Local laws apply.
** https://winefolly.com/update/the-18-noble-grapes-wine-challenge/
Red grapes and black grapes are not seedless, and if they don’t have a high enough sugar content, they frequently end up in the table grapes bin.
Oddly, I know people who make their own wine and they add sugar to the fermentation process, getting a rough, and sometimes very heady, but very friendly wine. Goes well with apple-smoked cheddar cheese….
Au contraire. There are seedless red grape varieties.
While they may think Climate Change shrinks grapes, Climate Change actually shrinks the human prefrontal cortex.