Chris White Tech Reporter
November 20, 2019 11:20 PM ET
Sen. Bernie Sanders suggested at Wednesday’s Democratic debate that he would consider prosecuting oil companies for supposedly contributing to climate change.
“What we have to do is tell the fossil fuel industry that their short-term profits are not more important than the future of this planet,” the Vermont senator said in response to a back and forth with billionaire Tom Steyer.
Sanders added: “The fossil fuel industry is probably criminally liable, because they have lied and lied and lied when they had the evidence that their carbon products were destroying the planet.”
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Col Sanders Bernied another one
He thinks that bread lines are good. He only knows them from fairy tales. Had he to wait in one for hours, and then another couple of hours for meat?
The guy’s a tape-worm. A lifelong parasite.
Good parasites don’t try to kill their hosts.
To quote Mark Steyn … Some cultures are just too stupid to survive.
But cancers do.
I really with there was a +1 gadget. You hit the nail on the head.
How do parasites get funded to run for president? How do they get elected to Congress?
An army of publicly employed parasites chip in for the cause.
I don’t think Bernie has had a rational thought in twenty years. He is so far left he would scare Stalin.
Yeah, but as we say in Vermont, he’s our tapeworm.
Why would anyone with a brain look to a man who either chose or was relegated to live in a dirt-floored and Sterno-heated shack into his late 30’s until he discovered the politician racket for guidance and leadership on economic issues? You’d have to be nuts.
I forget who to credit for this but: “Capitalism is where bread waits at the store for you to show up and buy it. Socialism is where you wait at the store for the bread to show up so you can buy it.”
Personally I would like to see this happen as it might finally make the oil companies show this scam for what it is.
Under the current Constitution a President doesn’t have the power to unilaterally decide that something is a crime and then prosecute law abiding citizens. Once again the bern is confusing the United States with Communist Russia, where Fearless Leaders gets to rule with iron fisted impunity.
It never ceases to amaze me how my radical left wing friends can’t grasp the concept that at some point Fearless leader will come for them
Yes. The guy isn’t campaigning to be president, he’s campaigning to be dictator.
If Sanders thinks that lying is criminal, every Dem candidate on that stage should be prosecuted, including Bernie. The oil companies in fact either have never said anything about global warming or have made statements that can be defended as logical. Of course, we can prosecute Bernie himself for lying about the effects of global warming
And the fear mongering liars like John Holdren that said these things should be prosecuted:
“A billion people could die from global warming by 2020.” -John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, 1986
“Major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a Siberian climate by 2020.” -Paul Harris, UK Ecojournalist, 2004
“Entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.” -Noel Brown, ex UNEP Director, 1989
What utter unadulterated baloney. But they continue every year with more of their never ending Crying Wolf bs and people seem to still be buying it. Insanity.
Eric Simpson – November 22, 2019 at 10:40 am
“HA”, there is more truth (insanity) than fiction in the words of the song titled “Strong Enough”, to wit:
“ Lie to me, I promise I’ll believe
Lie to me, but please don’t leave”
And all politicians and “wannabe” romancers use it to “score” with.
I suppose Sanders only uses hospitals that exclusively use wind and solar power.
I know for certain that the private jets Bernie often uses (more than any other candidate – it is reported) fly only on fossil fuel, NOT solar, wind, or hydro.
So – should Mr Sanders be jailed for using fossil fuel?
Of course he should but lefties don’t follow the logic (because they don’t want to because it leads to inner self loathing)
The only evidence that oil companies had regarding CO2 and climate is the exact same information freely available to anyone. That is, they used open sourced documents and papers to reach a conclusion.
That conclusion being that CO2 might have some impact on the climate sometime in the future.
Sanders, like the rest of his socialist kin just can’t help himself. Lying is justified so long as the reward is great enough.
Looks like he has lost the plot, good luck with that
As long as people keep believing that our thin, cold atmosphere has somehow heated our (deep) oceans (~275K) these ideas actually have a chance of becoming reality.
Ben Wouters: “thin … atmosphere”
I recall doing a calculation some time ago that showed the ridges on a basketball are ‘thicker’ in proportion to the basketball’s diameter than the atmosphere is to Earth’s diameter.
Exactly! That is why it is the body of the Earth that sets the temperature of the atmosphere and not vice versa. In particular the surface temperature of the ocean drives the body temperature of the atmosphere. So changes in Sun’s output, which directly affect the surface temperature of the ocean, coupled with ever-shifting instabilities in oceanic currents, affect regional temperatures. Taxing gas and prosecuting oil executives isn’t going to change that, any more than burning witches stopped plagues.
Correct. Same for Earths crust. We basically live on a planet that consists of molten stone and molten metal. The crust is a very small part of the total picture, just as the atmosphere is.
The atmosphere doesn’t warm the oceans. The sun does. And always has.
What the atmosphere does is impact how quickly the heat being put in by the sun escapes from the oceans.
MarkW November 22, 2019 at 3:52 pm
This is what reasonable people understand and accept.
The GH theory however claims that the atmosphere “further heats” the surface above the 255K the sun is supposedly able to deliver ( see eg Lacis et al 2010 )
So anyone believing in the GHE implicitly also believes that the atmosphere “further heats” the deep oceans since their temperature is some 20K above the infamous 255K.
-275K. Is cold, very cold, very very cold
~275K is less cold (or in fact, can exist)
Sorry I am being a jerk. Read this before my eyes woke up and commented before my brain woke up. I do understand. But hey maybe in another universe!
Well then Bernie,
if it turns out that temperatures start to go down in a few years even while CO2 goes up – it should be fair to prosecute those on the other side of the debate.
That would include, of course, you.
Bernie will have moved on to the socialist heaven by then. The high priests of AGW will be gone, leaving a confused generation of believers to act out in rage
First they came for the Oil Execs
And I did not speak out
Because I was not an Oil Exec
Then they came for the Coal Workers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Coal Worker
Then they came for the Climate Deniers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Climate Denier
Then they came for the Deplorables
And I did not speak out
Because I was not Deplorable
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
BS from BS
Never try to do anything to improve life, it’s just so oppressing…. Internazis, no thanks too!
Commie Bernie … still suffering from his cranio-proctology ….
You mean cephalic rectitis
Rectitis?? It nearly killed him!
The official term is proctocraniosis.
The Bern needs a proctocraniotomy.
He appears to be suffering from a recto-cranial inversion.
Not only the Bern, but the other Democrat POTUS candidates actually need an “optoectomy”.
A simple procedure that severs the “connection” between their eyes and their rectum, ….. thus terminating their “sh—y outlook” of the US economy.
Since he was born.
Since the Progressives have taken over the Democratic party in the US they keep slipping deeper into the hole. Even their comrade in chief, Barrack Obama, is questioning their direction and suggesting they calm down. They are oblivious to the ramifications of their proposed actions regarding AGW.
Obama likes the direction for getting power, but not the speed for starting to wake people up.
Lets see,the oil companies produce a product,that in a free society we are under no obligation to buy.
Oil company sees no Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming anywhere.
Now Bernie sees CAGW everywhere,yet choses to own 2? 3? Houses,Fly everywhere and work in an air conditioned building…
Gee Bern,want to live by your own rules?
Maybe Liberalism is a disease and statism is the final stage?
Hey Bernie, make Vermont your test case – immediately ban the use of fossil fuels – let us know how it turns out in mid-February.
Bernie has a muscle car collection? Typical liberal HYPOCRITE.
I don’t know if he has a collection, but he has been seen driving an Audi R-8.
Very pricey…
It seems the only liar here is the moron called Bernie Sanders
In other words, Bernie accuses big oil of Blasphemy!!
You really feel despair seeing a man possessed by this idea, this fear, losing all perspective and so many with him. With no alternative to offer to the world but almost instant poverty and need.
OT, but actual:
You can follow the EIKE conference via live stream and even start at the beginning.
On the Dem side, the fix is always in. Bernie is pounding his head against the wall, again. It’s going to be Pete, or Bloomberg, or Patrick.
It could also be Hillary running with a virtual campaign and visiting any states this time.
Maybe if they call it a nationwide “bar hop” she’ll get on the plane and go talk to the deplorables in yucksville.
Did you mean “not” visiting?
Patrick? Two people showed up at his Morehouse College event this past Wednesday. Two. He canceled the event.
Pete is still untested – no one wants to challenge him since he is not yet a contender. Bloomberg would never draw an enthusiastic crowd of youth – make that anybody. An election between two, old wealthy white men? Half the Democrats would stay home.
I would LOVE seeing one of them get the nomination.
They must live in abject fear of Bloomberg’s billions. How do you defeat that?
Do these socialists understand the origins of the environmental movement or is it all political theater?
https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/
Hi Matt. I went to the link and spent the better part of an hour perusing this. Maurice Strong is well known to me and there is likely a special place in hell for that man. He was of course only part of this, although as a facilitator he was extraordinary. Unless enough of us “cannon fodder” become aware of how deep this agenda is, we’re in big trouble. Understanding who our enemy is then, and their mode of intended conquest, I intend to do my part and spread this to the people that I know have the intellectual fortitude to educate themselves. Most of the people on this site already know that below the surface, this whole CAGW agenda is about political control.
I don’t understand this idea that fossil fuels exist because of energy companies seeking short term profits.
They just provide the fuel/electricity. They’re not forcing anybody to use it.
Nothing they say about climate (or indeed much of anything) bears any relation to either truth or reality, so don’t feel bad.
I’m fine with that so long as we can sue politicians — current and past — for the ramifications of their poor decisions.
Col. Sanders has gone full bore rant-book selling at this stage with no intention of running a serious campaign. Follow the rant money.
If Sanders were to become president and if he were to follow through (both are pretty big ifs) all the fossil fuel companies should buy up ad time on all the major media companies explain what they’re about to do and why and then immediately halt all deliveries of their products to the United States as a demonstration of why Bernie’s idea is insane.
“The green industry is probably criminally liable, because they have lied and lied and lied when they had the evidence that their no carbon products were in danger of destroying the planet.”
The only known liars are certain people prominent among the so-called consensus climate scientists.
Oil companies could not have lied about the effect of CO2 emissions on the climate because no one knows the effect of CO2 emissions on the climate.
The IPCC don’t know what they’re talking about. Neither does Bernie Sanders.
“Oil companies could not have lied about the effect of CO2 emissions on the climate because no one knows the effect of CO2 emissions on the climate.”
That’s exactly right. Bernie seems to think he knows. Someone ought to ask Bernie to show us skeptics some evidence demonstrating that human CO2 is affecting the Earth’s weather, or will in the future. Bernie doesn’t have any evidence, because noone has any evidence. But Bernie plans to sue the fossil fuel companies anyway. The guy is delusional. He’s certainly not presidential material. Not for the United States anyway. Maybe Argentina.
Noone ever challenges these leftwing delusions. They are free to throw these lies around all over the place. It will be different in the courtroom, though.
Saying he will prosecute the oil companies is only the half of it. He also predicted the following at a debate the other night…
“….Major cities all over the world will be under water “within the next eight or nine years” due to climate change, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) predicted at Wednesday night’s Democrat presidential debate.”
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/bernie-sanders-major-cities-going-under-water-8-or-9-years-due-climate-change
Sea levels are rising at–what–3 mm per year? So we’re talking 24 to 27 mm over the next 8-9 years. That is between just under and a little over 1 inch over that time period. That is going to put cities under water?
I’m sorry Bernie, but you are seriously disconnected from reality. Get help.
For cities to be underwater the sea level needs to rise a lot. Can someone ask him how many metres he thinks it will rise by 2025 and whether all that rise will happen in 2024 or will it take some time to happen. If the rise will be spread over 8 years, what I want to know is how much he thinks it will rise by 3 November 2020 and whether he will withdraw if doesnt
That’s not what Sanders said at the debate. Here’s the actual quote:
“What the scientists are telling us, if we don’t get our act together within the next 8 or 9 years, we’re talking about cities all over the world, major cities, going under water.”
The key part is “if we don’t get our act together within the next 8 or 9 years”. He’s saying we have to act quickly otherwise major cities will be underwater eventually, no specific timeline given for when.
I don’t agree with him but context and reading comprehension are important.
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Well, if Bernie and company get their way we won’t have to worry about any more Bernie’s tottering onto a debate stage and advocating for the extinction of mankind. Life will be short, hard and brutal so, almost no one, will reach his age.
No fossil fuel companies = No fossil fuels
No fossil fuels = no modern civilization
No modern civilization = 90+% drop in world population
Wait…I think I’ve stumbled upon the real objective here….
Cheers
Max