Bernie Sanders Announces Plan To Prosecute Oil Execs Over Climate Change

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November 20, 2019 11:20 PM ET

Sen. Bernie Sanders suggested at Wednesday’s Democratic debate that he would consider prosecuting oil companies for supposedly contributing to climate change.

“What we have to do is tell the fossil fuel industry that their short-term profits are not more important than the future of this planet,” the Vermont senator said in response to a back and forth with billionaire Tom Steyer.

Sanders added: “The fossil fuel industry is probably criminally liable, because they have lied and lied and lied when they had the evidence that their carbon products were destroying the planet.”

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137 thoughts on “Bernie Sanders Announces Plan To Prosecute Oil Execs Over Climate Change

    • He thinks that bread lines are good. He only knows them from fairy tales. Had he to wait in one for hours, and then another couple of hours for meat?

    • Personally I would like to see this happen as it might finally make the oil companies show this scam for what it is.

      • Under the current Constitution a President doesn’t have the power to unilaterally decide that something is a crime and then prosecute law abiding citizens. Once again the bern is confusing the United States with Communist Russia, where Fearless Leaders gets to rule with iron fisted impunity.

        It never ceases to amaze me how my radical left wing friends can’t grasp the concept that at some point Fearless leader will come for them

  1. If Sanders thinks that lying is criminal, every Dem candidate on that stage should be prosecuted, including Bernie. The oil companies in fact either have never said anything about global warming or have made statements that can be defended as logical. Of course, we can prosecute Bernie himself for lying about the effects of global warming

    • And the fear mongering liars like John Holdren that said these things should be prosecuted:

      “A billion people could die from global warming by 2020.” -John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, 1986

      “Major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a Siberian climate by 2020.” -Paul Harris, UK Ecojournalist, 2004

      “Entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.” -Noel Brown, ex UNEP Director, 1989

      What utter unadulterated baloney. But they continue every year with more of their never ending Crying Wolf bs and people seem to still be buying it. Insanity.

      • Eric Simpson – November 22, 2019 at 10:40 am

        …… and people seem to still be buying it. Insanity.

        “HA”, there is more truth (insanity) than fiction in the words of the song titled “Strong Enough”, to wit:

        Lie to me, I promise I’ll believe
        Lie to me, but please don’t leave

        And all politicians and “wannabe” romancers use it to “score” with.

      • I know for certain that the private jets Bernie often uses (more than any other candidate – it is reported) fly only on fossil fuel, NOT solar, wind, or hydro.
        So – should Mr Sanders be jailed for using fossil fuel?

        • Of course he should but lefties don’t follow the logic (because they don’t want to because it leads to inner self loathing)

    • The only evidence that oil companies had regarding CO2 and climate is the exact same information freely available to anyone. That is, they used open sourced documents and papers to reach a conclusion.
      That conclusion being that CO2 might have some impact on the climate sometime in the future.

      Sanders, like the rest of his socialist kin just can’t help himself. Lying is justified so long as the reward is great enough.

  2. As long as people keep believing that our thin, cold atmosphere has somehow heated our (deep) oceans (~275K) these ideas actually have a chance of becoming reality.

    • Ben Wouters: “thin … atmosphere”

      I recall doing a calculation some time ago that showed the ridges on a basketball are ‘thicker’ in proportion to the basketball’s diameter than the atmosphere is to Earth’s diameter.

      • Exactly! That is why it is the body of the Earth that sets the temperature of the atmosphere and not vice versa. In particular the surface temperature of the ocean drives the body temperature of the atmosphere. So changes in Sun’s output, which directly affect the surface temperature of the ocean, coupled with ever-shifting instabilities in oceanic currents, affect regional temperatures. Taxing gas and prosecuting oil executives isn’t going to change that, any more than burning witches stopped plagues.

      • Correct. Same for Earths crust. We basically live on a planet that consists of molten stone and molten metal. The crust is a very small part of the total picture, just as the atmosphere is.

    • The atmosphere doesn’t warm the oceans. The sun does. And always has.
      What the atmosphere does is impact how quickly the heat being put in by the sun escapes from the oceans.

      • MarkW November 22, 2019 at 3:52 pm

        The atmosphere doesn’t warm the oceans. The sun does.

        This is what reasonable people understand and accept.
        The GH theory however claims that the atmosphere “further heats” the surface above the 255K the sun is supposedly able to deliver ( see eg Lacis et al 2010 )
        So anyone believing in the GHE implicitly also believes that the atmosphere “further heats” the deep oceans since their temperature is some 20K above the infamous 255K.

    • Sorry I am being a jerk. Read this before my eyes woke up and commented before my brain woke up. I do understand. But hey maybe in another universe!

  3. Well then Bernie,
    if it turns out that temperatures start to go down in a few years even while CO2 goes up – it should be fair to prosecute those on the other side of the debate.
    That would include, of course, you.

    • Bernie will have moved on to the socialist heaven by then. The high priests of AGW will be gone, leaving a confused generation of believers to act out in rage

  4. First they came for the Oil Execs
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not an Oil Exec
    Then they came for the Coal Workers
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Coal Worker
    Then they came for the Climate Deniers
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Climate Denier
    Then they came for the Deplorables
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not Deplorable
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me

  5. BS from BS

    Never try to do anything to improve life, it’s just so oppressing…. Internazis, no thanks too!

  6. Since the Progressives have taken over the Democratic party in the US they keep slipping deeper into the hole. Even their comrade in chief, Barrack Obama, is questioning their direction and suggesting they calm down. They are oblivious to the ramifications of their proposed actions regarding AGW.

  7. Lets see,the oil companies produce a product,that in a free society we are under no obligation to buy.
    Oil company sees no Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming anywhere.
    Now Bernie sees CAGW everywhere,yet choses to own 2? 3? Houses,Fly everywhere and work in an air conditioned building…
    Gee Bern,want to live by your own rules?
    Maybe Liberalism is a disease and statism is the final stage?

  8. Hey Bernie, make Vermont your test case – immediately ban the use of fossil fuels – let us know how it turns out in mid-February.

  9. You really feel despair seeing a man possessed by this idea, this fear, losing all perspective and so many with him. With no alternative to offer to the world but almost instant poverty and need.

  10. On the Dem side, the fix is always in. Bernie is pounding his head against the wall, again. It’s going to be Pete, or Bloomberg, or Patrick.

    • Patrick? Two people showed up at his Morehouse College event this past Wednesday. Two. He canceled the event.

      Pete is still untested – no one wants to challenge him since he is not yet a contender. Bloomberg would never draw an enthusiastic crowd of youth – make that anybody. An election between two, old wealthy white men? Half the Democrats would stay home.

      I would LOVE seeing one of them get the nomination.

    • Hi Matt. I went to the link and spent the better part of an hour perusing this. Maurice Strong is well known to me and there is likely a special place in hell for that man. He was of course only part of this, although as a facilitator he was extraordinary. Unless enough of us “cannon fodder” become aware of how deep this agenda is, we’re in big trouble. Understanding who our enemy is then, and their mode of intended conquest, I intend to do my part and spread this to the people that I know have the intellectual fortitude to educate themselves. Most of the people on this site already know that below the surface, this whole CAGW agenda is about political control.

  11. I don’t understand this idea that fossil fuels exist because of energy companies seeking short term profits.
    They just provide the fuel/electricity. They’re not forcing anybody to use it.

    • Nothing they say about climate (or indeed much of anything) bears any relation to either truth or reality, so don’t feel bad.

  12. I’m fine with that so long as we can sue politicians — current and past — for the ramifications of their poor decisions.

  13. Col. Sanders has gone full bore rant-book selling at this stage with no intention of running a serious campaign. Follow the rant money.

  14. If Sanders were to become president and if he were to follow through (both are pretty big ifs) all the fossil fuel companies should buy up ad time on all the major media companies explain what they’re about to do and why and then immediately halt all deliveries of their products to the United States as a demonstration of why Bernie’s idea is insane.

  15. “The green industry is probably criminally liable, because they have lied and lied and lied when they had the evidence that their no carbon products were in danger of destroying the planet.”

      • “Oil companies could not have lied about the effect of CO2 emissions on the climate because no one knows the effect of CO2 emissions on the climate.”

        That’s exactly right. Bernie seems to think he knows. Someone ought to ask Bernie to show us skeptics some evidence demonstrating that human CO2 is affecting the Earth’s weather, or will in the future. Bernie doesn’t have any evidence, because noone has any evidence. But Bernie plans to sue the fossil fuel companies anyway. The guy is delusional. He’s certainly not presidential material. Not for the United States anyway. Maybe Argentina.

        Noone ever challenges these leftwing delusions. They are free to throw these lies around all over the place. It will be different in the courtroom, though.

  16. Saying he will prosecute the oil companies is only the half of it. He also predicted the following at a debate the other night…

    “….Major cities all over the world will be under water “within the next eight or nine years” due to climate change, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) predicted at Wednesday night’s Democrat presidential debate.”

    https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/bernie-sanders-major-cities-going-under-water-8-or-9-years-due-climate-change

    Sea levels are rising at–what–3 mm per year? So we’re talking 24 to 27 mm over the next 8-9 years. That is between just under and a little over 1 inch over that time period. That is going to put cities under water?

    I’m sorry Bernie, but you are seriously disconnected from reality. Get help.

    • For cities to be underwater the sea level needs to rise a lot. Can someone ask him how many metres he thinks it will rise by 2025 and whether all that rise will happen in 2024 or will it take some time to happen. If the rise will be spread over 8 years, what I want to know is how much he thinks it will rise by 3 November 2020 and whether he will withdraw if doesnt

    • That’s not what Sanders said at the debate. Here’s the actual quote:

      “What the scientists are telling us, if we don’t get our act together within the next 8 or 9 years, we’re talking about cities all over the world, major cities, going under water.”

      The key part is “if we don’t get our act together within the next 8 or 9 years”. He’s saying we have to act quickly otherwise major cities will be underwater eventually, no specific timeline given for when.

      I don’t agree with him but context and reading comprehension are important.

      (Rescued from spam bin) SUNMOD

  17. Well, if Bernie and company get their way we won’t have to worry about any more Bernie’s tottering onto a debate stage and advocating for the extinction of mankind. Life will be short, hard and brutal so, almost no one, will reach his age.

    No fossil fuel companies = No fossil fuels
    No fossil fuels = no modern civilization
    No modern civilization = 90+% drop in world population

    Wait…I think I’ve stumbled upon the real objective here….

    Cheers

    Max

  18. Well, he is a Socialist. At least he is consistent. This is what Socialists do. They arrest their opponents and convict them in show trials.

  19. If Comrade Bernie thinks oil executives should be prosecuted for climate crimes, then its a pretty safe bet he’d try to shut down web blogs like WUWT and any others that defy they Left’s climate religion diktats.

    Comrade Bernie is proving everyday what much of Party of D thinks of the rule of law, due process, freedom of speech, the right to be secure in one’s private property from government takings.

    The one great thing about Bernie is he doesn’t try to hide what he thinks about how our Federal government is based on separation of powers, authority of the States to regulate most of their affairs.
    He puts his desire for an authoritarian government, his communism right out there for everyone to see what he is.

  20. Translated from Newspeak, Bernie Sanders-Claus is really saying, “I want you all to starve in the cold and the dark, but that’s well worth it if we can punish the successful…”

  21. Time for Comrade Bernie to be cut from all products and services brought to the world from petroleum. But we’ll allow him two suits. After all, seeing him naked as he walks the petrolum-free walk is much too scary to contemplate.

      • Made by hand with no fossil fuel produced tools. Not a single piece of coal or a single drop of oil is allowed.

        In shelters with no lighting or heating.

        Using wool from sheep that are sheared using flints, hand-spun and dyed.

        I’d bet the greens would love that.

  22. Eh! Quite the reverse, oil and coal execs should be given medals for saving the entire biosphere of planet Earth.

    Plant and animal life have been locking up CO2 in coal and limestone beds for millions of years -stripping CO2 out of the oceans and atmosphere. But that CO2 is the very foundation of the carbon-cycle of all life on Earth. The first saviour for life on Earth was lignin consuming fungi, which prevented yet more plant life being locked up in ever deeper coal beds. Precious CO2 was at last being returned to the atmosphere.

    Nevertheless, during the last ice age, CO2 levels got so low, that all plant life at higher altitudes began to die off, causing CO2 deserts and thus massive dust storms across both hemispheres. And during the next ice age, CO2 levels may get so low that all life on Earth is extinguished – at both high and lower altitudes.

    So the second saviour for all life on Earth is mankind – or more precisely, the oil and coal companies. They surveyed the world looking for all that buried CO2, then they dug it up and put it back into the atmosphere where it belongs. Plants can now breathe more easily, and life on Earth is no longer threatened with extinction.

    Hooray for the oil and coal companies.
    Hip-hip hooray.
    Give the oil and coal execs medals, for saving all life on Earth…..

    Ralph

  23. Since the climate change alarmists always lose when they go to court and have to allow the other side to be heard, produce their full data and all that, it might be a good thing. Lay this scam to rest once and for all.

  24. “The fossil fuel industry is probably criminally liable, because they have lied and lied and lied when they had the evidence that their carbon products were destroying the planet”

    Translation:

    “The fossil fuel industry is probably criminally liable, because they probably lied and lied and lied when they probably had the evidence that probably showed that their carbon products were probably destroying the planet and they probably kept that information a secret probably to serve their profit motive or that’s what Bill McKibben probably said or something like that and this kind of goofy argument will probably hold up in court but probably not and the court’s insistence on admissable evidence is probably part of the oil industry’s profit motive conspiracy or something like that probably and the planet is probably destroyed by now anyway from goofy climate politics.

  25. I hope Bernie sues them then we can have, on oath, the testimony of Climate experts. It would be an interesting trial.

  26. What exactly could oil companies do that would satisfy people like Bernie? Refuse to pump oil? Utilities in NYC said they can’t hook up any more people because of lack of pipeline capacity and Cuomo starts an investigation of them. Isn’t that what he wanted?

    • Imagine that! Strike for climate common sense.
      Wouldn’t take long for a million times more people to protest a lack of fossil fuels.
      Particularly when people start freezing to death in their homes.

  27. “The green industry is probably criminally liable, because they have lied and lied and lied when they had the evidence that their carbon products were destroying the planet.”

    Interesting legal theory, Bernie.

    We could also try this:

    “Congress is probably criminally liable, because they have lied and lied and lied when they had the evidence that their enormous deficit budgets were destroying the economy of the country.”

    Let’s run both ideas in front of the public, and see which one gets more support.

  28. Prosecute people who are selling a legal product that is legal to have, to sell, to transport, and to use.
    Sure, why not?
    Just make up a law and charge them with it retroactively…nothing unconstitutional about that, huh?
    What about the people who buy it and burn it?
    What about the governments that not only condone this, but tax it and balance budgets based on revenue from sales of these products?
    Local, state, county, and federal…they all do much more than simply look the other way.
    They tax it, regulate it, and even sell leases to obtain these products from the ground.

    The truth is that Bernie is either a psychotic fool, or a cynical liar.

  29. Bernie Sanders is under the delusion that green energy can replace fossil fuels. And the self righteous hypocrite that he is wants to virtue signal that he is more righteous than the other green energy hypocrites. Green Energy is not viable because:
    1) There is no long term viable power storage.
    2) Advocates talk about making it less unreliable instead of making it 99.99% reliable.
    3) Wind Energy has a very negative environmental impact.
    4) Cost of reliable Green Energy is 2 – 4 times the cost of fossil fuels. By the time it doubles or even before, working class people will rebel as in France and Chile. Of course people like the hypocrite Bernie are so well off that they will blame the poor.

  30. What is wrong with these people? Bernie is to old to become amish, as is the fake native American, who wants to stop oil drilling… The day petrol/diesel is not available for the masses, their will be riots and these vile politicians will not be voted back in to power…. I truly hope trump gets another term, a d after trump we get somebody who stands up to the un and ipcc.

    • Aw, look at the bright side. If they ban drilling, the price of healthcare would drop precipitously. No pharmaceuticals, no IV lines, no monitoring equipment, fewer medical instruments, etc.

      It could be the first step toward affordable healthcare for all. Isn’t that on Bernie’s list of free stuff?

      (snark)

  31. Good luck, Bernster. You want to launch frivolous lawsuits without merit, we’ll be happy to launch some of our own, like being an economic imbecile. Surely there’s a law against that. Oh, there isn’t? Huh. Well maybe you have a point. There’s gotta be a law against oil company executives doing business. Oh, there isn’t? Weird. Well, we’re back to “good luck with that.”

  32. Democrat philosophy Its the magnitude of the accusation that counts. In other words to paraphrase, proof, we don’t need no stinking proof.
    As Biden said we choose truth over facts. And as Hitler said if a big lie is told often enough the lie will be the truth.

    Translation, anything they say must be believed or you are a denier.
    They want the money.

  33. Maybe Bernie should look at prosecuting chainsaw manufacturers as well. After all chainsaws cut down the forests all by them selves don’t they? Automobile manufacturers, paint, tyres, plastic, glass, concrete… Get my drift? The list is endless.
    Oil companies only supply the product, the consumers decided they needed it. As has Bernie all his life.
    Hypocrisy abound.

    • The supreme court recently allowed a law suit against gun manufacturers for selling guns that are dangerous, to go forward.

        • The type of gun being argued about are not allowed to be used to hunt deer in a number of states because the killing power is too low.

  34. As a potential candidate for the office that runs a country, Sanders speaks in a way that displays criminally negligent ignorance.

    He is a prime product of fearmongering.

    We’re doomed, … NOT because of climate change, but because of people like him.

  35. When will these thickies, like Sanders, start to begin to understand that he, amongst millions of others, are the cause, not the casualties of his imagined global warming. Over his long years, he has burned huge amounts of oil in his car, flown the World by aeroplane, enjoyed many years of central heating in his homes, travelled by train, and used electricity in his homes for heating, cooking and working at night. Has he ever stopped to think for one moment what he and the rest of us would do without oil to drive all these benefits which have brought the world to the wonderful place it is today? When will people like Sanders learn the simple truth that oil companies only extract the product from the earth; it is people like you Mr Sanders and the rest of the World’s population that buy the oil and put your mythical polluting product into the atmosphere. No doubt you will be driving to your local gas station later in the week to buy fues to fill up your vehicle tank as usual: What hypocrites you and your supporters are.

  36. I suggest we start prosecuting socialists for all of the people killed by socialism. There, fixed it for you.

  37. Don’t be too hard on Bernie: the unquestioning MO of journalists is not so much complacency as a downright mockery of logic. They deserve the greatest contempt and vilification.

  38. Slippery sloop indeed!

    In the nuclear industry making a material false statement is criminal.

    Years ago I was watching a Senate oversight hearing of the NRC. A factual presentation was made by the NRC. This was followed by a Bernie rant taking up most of the hearing.

    Years before that I was running a test at a nuke plant. The senior resident inspector informed me that he was going to write a notice of violation at 4 am.. I advised him that making a material false statement laws applied to the NRC too. Since a NOV becomes part of the Federal Register he may want to word it very carefully.

    I reminded him that I was also a navy trained nuclear officer and very good at my job. He decided not to write the NOV when I said that I would document his material false statement as a US citizen who had witnessed a felony. The paper and TV station would love.

    The next thing to happen was being told behind close doors that I could not speak to the NRC that way. I told him I wanted in writing from him and the NRC inspector exactly how I should speak to the NRC and why I should not feel intimidated about discussing safety concerns.

    My point is not simple. Being truthful and accurate without intent to mislead requires careful thought. Accusing people of criminal behavior and prosecution also requires evidence.

  39. Another old guy who see’s the exit ramp looming, and wants to have influence from off the planet ?

    Lets be clear here, in terms of a race, the 2020 election has barely made its first half lap of many to come, and Bernie has already had a heart attack. Even given the sort of taxpayer funded healthcare that has wrought apparent miracles in the case of Bader Ginsberg, one would have to suppose that voters will think Bernie’s health aint going to be up to the job, assuming he got the nomination. But whilst Bernie himself must be aware of these salient facts, he still stands up to spout Marxist fantasy, and more worryingly gets whoops and hollers of approval from the audience.

    Surveying the incredible runners for the Democrat nomination, the only reasonable conclusion to reach is that the party is now nothing more than a lobby group for a few metro areas that seem to share much with the fabled cities of Sodem and Gomorrah. 🙂

  40. Will Bernie Sanders do so out of his own pocket or will he expect tax-payers to fork out millions in legal costs? (This is not a trick question as most reading this know the answer!)

  41. Just marxists trying to steal someone else’s money. Money of others are like a drug to marxists – cannot resist it…

  42. There is a railway strike going on in Canada. As a result, the entire province of Quebec (which has been fighting pipelines tooth and nail) is about to run out of propane. The province is four days from having to shut down hospitals, nursing homes, farming operations and much more. Lives and the economy both on the brink.

    The government will no doubt step in and legislate the railway back to work. When energy supplies get cut off and people face the reality of not having them… suddenly forcing striking workers to deliver energy supplies is required, global warming be d*mned. That’s why you’re going to lose the argument Bernie. Your alternative is what Quebec is facing right now.

  43. Ex Post Facto laws are explicitly forbidden by the constitution. Not that any Democrat ever cared about that document.

  44. I hope he includes The Sun as a criminal co-conspirator. Or Helios, Ra, Apollo, Utu, Yan Di, Sol or whatever name you want to give it.

  45. The whole thing ideological-bait, the idea is to get you using their words, their terms, their logic, and to discuss their plans of action. And it worked beautifully.

    The proper response is to laugh at the half-wit pretending to have ‘answers’ to imaginary ‘problems’.

  46. If the burning of fossil fuels is bad than it is those that make use of goods and services that make use of fossil fuels that is the cause of the problem. After all it is their money that has kept the fossil fuels companies in business. Bernie should sue everyone who has made use of goods and services that has involved the use of fossil fuels. Bernie must include himself in the list of people he is going to sue.

  47. What Bernie Sanders is pushing for in the US is exactly the same as the communist party(labour) in the UK. They want to take all the companies back into government ownership so the people of the UK can go back to waiting 6 months to get a telephone. And having 4 day working weeks imposed due to strikes at power plants as there were in the 70. That was a time when there was very little gas available in the UK and believe me it was bloody cold at night with ice on the inside of the windows. We did eventually get a parrafin heater for the upstairs rooms of the house but then ran the risk of it being knocked over and seting the house ablaze.

    Happy times? not on your life.

  48. Un-American, Socialist/Communist Bernie, who celebrated his honeymoon having breakfast, in his pajamas, with about 20 Russians in the USSR, is totally off his rocker regarding fossil fuels.

    He will be 80 years old, if sworn in as President, with a history of heart problems and a heart attack.
    The US deserves much better.

    Look out the window: Often there is NO WIND and NO SUN in New England
    The RE folks are pure wackos.
    They know nothing about energy systems
    They inanely mouth anything that sounds good.
    They irresponsibly befuddle lay people for self-serving purposes.

    There is no way the world could support 10 billion people without fossil fuels by 2050.

    Despite the growth of wind and solar, etc., the world’s PRIMARY energy has remained about 78% to 80% from fossil fuels for the past 45 YEARS.

    The developing countries have little reason to meaningfully move away from fossil, because they need low cost energy and electricity to develop their inefficient economies.

    COP21 promised these countries tens of $billions EACH YEAR, but all fell flat, because Obama never could get approval of his excessive Paris promises from Congress.

    That money was to come out of a $100 billion/year SLUSH FUND, ADMINISTERED BY THE UN!!!!

    COP 21 was designed by Europe to be a bad deal for the US.

    Most folks did not understand that at that time, and many of them still do not, primarily because they are not curious, or prefer to believe otherwise.

    Europe has no interest to give the US ANY advantage in international trade, and that includes climate change.
    Europe wants to burden the US as much as possible with climate expenses, the main reason they are pushing EXPENSIVE Offshore Wind, because THEY have all the infrastructures and expertise.

    COP21 was giving China and India $billions/y, PLUS a free pass regarding CO2 reduction, which they did not have to do until decades later, just to get them to sign the COP21 accords.

    When US money disappeared because the US wisely withdrew from COP21, there was panic. Who was going to pay? Obama had foolishly agreed the US would pay.

    NOTE: The same panic occurred when the UK announced Brexit. Who will pay the very sizable UK contribution to the Brussels EU budgets.

  49. what I see as a FAR bigger problem is that ALL the dems speaking out in panic mode and everyone listening and believing this are then going to become even larger and more stupid advocates for protest and ongoing discord when Trumps re elected or some other of his party is.
    if the last yrs have been bad, whats coming is going to be so much worse.
    I worry for my friends there

  50. I’d like to point out that, with the current world population and fuel consumption rate, it is very possible that the only thing stopping another Little Ice Age IS the fact that we are using carbon-based fuels instead of so-called ‘clean’ electricity.

    More and more, I’m beginning to believe that the unspoken goal is not keeping the atmosphere clean (which it is, anyway, depending on where you are) but rather, destroying everything developed in the last 150 years, as other people have indicated.

    While you can say ‘well, the wealthy will be up above it all, rattling around in jets and yachts’, just tell me who is going to do maintenance, repairs and upgrades on those machines if we’re all gone, and who is going to provide food for the wealthy morons to eat? Never mind construct their dwellings, clean for them, all the rest of that crap they expect to have handed to them. It’s a complicated world, and the majority of them can’t even do laundry, make their own beds, or mow their lawns. So who is going to do that for them? Not me, that’s for damned sure.

    Bernie is too stupid to come up with these ideas on his own. He picked it up from someone else, probably AOC, the birdbrained babbler from New York. And his lawsuit effort isn’t a freebie. He’d lose and the oil companies make him pay for it, all fees and expenses.

  51. Just like Stalin. This deranged communist wants to do away with anyone that disagrees with his religious beliefs (CAGW). Bloody scary how history threatens to repeat itself.

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