Chile has pulled out of hosting two major international summits, including a UN climate change conference, as anti-government protests continue.
President Sebastián Piñera said the decision had caused him “pain” but his government needed “to prioritise re-establishing public order”.
The COP25 climate summit was scheduled for 2 to 13 December, while the Apec trade forum was next month.
The UN said it was now looking at alternative venues.
World leaders were to gather at this year’s Conference of the Parties (COP) to discuss the implementation of the Paris Accord – a landmark international climate agreement, first signed at COP21 in December 2015.
The COP25 is turning in to a geopolitical game of hot potato:
COP25 was originally supposed to be hosted by Brazil.
But in November last year, just two months after being announced as the summit’s host nation, then President-elect Jair Bolsonaro pulled out.
The far-right leader said this was due to the change of government and budget restrictions, according to local media. However, he had recently chosen a foreign minister who claimed “climate alarmism” was just a plot by “cultural Marxists”.
A month later, Chile was selected to host the climate conference instead. Costa Rica, the other frontrunner, withdrew because of the costs involved in hosting.
Of course their “Science editor” weighs in:
This is a huge blow to hopes of progress on what many see as the crisis of climate change.
Just as the science becomes more robust about rising carbon levels driving up temperatures and triggering a range of dangerous impacts, diplomats and experts have been looking to the COP25 talks in December as a vital staging-post on the way to global action.
And of course this article foreshadows an upcoming article (here) about how people cannot adapt to an incremental change in circumstance over an 80 period, whether or not that change is exagerrated.
And as the news was announced, a US-based organisation also separately revealed that millions more people than previously thought were at risk of coastal flooding from climate-driven sea-level rise within the next century.
As they will need a warm Southern Hemisphere venue to avoid the Northern winter, I have written to nominate Cairns on the Great Barrier Reef.
Not only is it a tropical destination but the attendees can visit the Great Barrier Reef and see how vibrant and healthy it is in contradiction to MSM and alarmist reports.
Looks like a win/win for Australia and the UN FCCC!
aaargh NO
ok see the reefs ok bit..
but another flustercluck of warmist amarmists will just have jcrook sobbing stephen and flimflam gain limelight
as well as the obnoxious robin williams aussies version of bill nye
and all 250 of the melbourne ex reb peat luvvies and the rest would be there all gussied in wetpaint(latest stunt to avoid being moved on) and howling police abuse.
71 to be booked so far;-)
what about kiribas or tuuvalu or some other sinking paradise(not0
see chinas being bit for billions to make em a safe spot using dredging?
roflmao
The COP meeting was originally scheduled for Brazil, but its president is a skeptic and bowed out of hosting it. Chile stepped up and offered to do so instead—I guess its leadership is green.
I’m Chilean and honestly most people knew from day 1 of the mass protests (Oct 18) that these conferences couldn’t be held. The protests, riots and violence from both sides of the fight are way too big -including eventual human rights violations from the police – plus the incompetence of Piñera’s government makes it hard to see when/where this will end; all of that is risky for foreign visitors. It also would’ve been a further slap in the face of the people to have the government receive all those “important” people to talk about high minded ideals, spending lots of public money, whilst we have such a mess here. COP25 specially sounded so ludicrous; you can’t have ecological sustainability without social sustainability! People here care about environmental issues and climate change (in abstract), specially regarding droughts, but to have “eminences” tell us how to behave to “save the world” in a country where most people don’t make it to the end of the month (middle class folk use credit to buy basic things like groceries), it’s a joke. All the issues that are fuelling the movement where hidden in plain sight… I’m glad these events were cancelled, and I couldn’t be happier Greta won’t come lol. And I hope all of this is for the best.
The riots across Chile ostensibly grew out of a 4% increase in subway fares in Santiago. The socialists and anarchists in Chile seized the moment and launched attacks on rail stations, grocery stores, high rise buildings, banks, and assorted infrastructure across Chile. They are succeeding in making life for the average Chilean far more difficult, by destroying the infrastructure that sustains them. The riots reflect the attempts of the socialists and anarchist to over throw the elected government of Chile, using poverty and class resentment as their cover and source of ‘useful tools’. The Chilean government is a constitutional republic, with branches for Executive, Legislative, and Judicial functions.
President Pinera decided he could not guarantee security of the attendees at the APEC trade forums and COPout25, while the anarchist and socialists pursued their hell-bent campaign of terrorism in Chile.
“The UN said it was now looking at alternative venues”
Twitter maybe
Great transparency
Low cost to the taxpayers who are paying for it. Low emissions too.
I still think Syria, it’s cheap.
They can’t use Twitter. If they did, people would be able to actually reply and ask actual questions.
That’s a big no no. See what happened when Christopher managed a sneaky question once at an unguarded mic.
Why not Antarctica? Since all the ice has melted it should be a good place for a jamboree with tents and campfires.
Some wonderful long-time friends of mine are originally from Mumbai, and are adherents of Zoroastrianism – one of the oldest religions on Earth. They have some dietary rules that push them toward more vegetarian meals, the main rule being “eat no food with a face.”
I sincerely hope they are never eating French fries should they ever run across that horrific title photograph….
If I can mash the keyboard and chip in, I would just like to say that face or not, I still find the idea of eating potato a-peal-ling.
+42
🙂
Oh, and the steamroller scene from Austin Powers has long been my favorite analog of the climate “emergency.” Good on you for including the (deleted) scene of Mrs. Henchman!
Well nothing with a face let’s out grubs and all other insects.
Potatoes are a-peeling but potato bugs definitely not
Oh no!! this is just terrible news. Where will all the newly appointed not elected Presidents of the European Union go to be presidential now? The President of the EU commission, The President of the EU council, The President of the EU central bank, The President of the EU Parliament, The President of the EU monetary zone.
These are very important people, many of them were town councillors before their elevation to Presidenthood (sic) don’t you know. Where can their corporate jets fly to now?
I should also mention, the EU High Commissioner for Foreign Affairs, not a president, but the highest paid appointed nobody in the EU. Where will he/she/it go to be Presidential, sorry I miss spoke, sorry, I mean go to be High Commissioner.
Do these Chilean rioters not realise, the damage they are doing to the none elected establishment appointees?
As for that poor child who can see CO2, what ever happened to her super powers? Did she not know before that sailing adventure across the Atlantic, the Cop out meeting was going to be cancelled? Her futurology compass was clearly on the blink.
As for poor old Al, well he was always uncertain if he could make it, due to the ongoing snow falls and clearing the side walk outside your home obligations. All that tootling back and forth with a snow shovel, to his many snowed in properties wasn’t supposed to be happening. I recall some nobody a few years back saying, we would not know what snow is by now…..
I have no doubt, Canada will step up and offer to host this very important COP jamboree. The authorities are just a bit anxious, they are not sure if any Canadian airport will be open in December. This early global warming we are having falling in white flakes and building up in huge piles all around the country is such a messy problem. Saint Greta has been asked to intervene, she was last pictured raging at the snow screaming, “How Dare You”!!
I do NOT want COP25 in London.
Es[pecially if Al Gore III is attending.
London doesn’t do snow – but the Al-Gore-ithm Guy brings Climate Change in White wherever he goes.
No Thank You.
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This is part of what they are saying over at Jonova about the background to the situation :
-“Apparently the train fares were rising partly because of renewables:
James Taylor, Heartland, Epoch Times
Santiago Metro fares are rising, despite falling oil and gasoline prices, because government officials in 2018 traded out most of the Metro’s energy sources from conventional power to wind and solar power. The Chilean government also hit the portion of conventional power that remains with new carbon dioxide taxes.
In 2015 Chile was the first country in South America to enforce a carbon tax of $5 a ton. The actual dollars didn’t start coming out of people’s wallets until 2018. The government expected to collect $160m in taxes, so that’s less than $10 per capita. But as we all know, there are hidden costs with the “transition” to random energy generators, perhaps the knock on costs are much larger?”-
http://joannenova.com.au/2019/10/chile-cancels-un-climate-conference-weeks-out-cop25-forced-to-move/
Carbon taxes? Perhaps not conducive to public order .
mikewaite,
Thanks for that additional background!
It’s a COP-out
Poor Greta – sour grapes. She turned down the prestigious Nordic Council’s 2019 Environmental Award which was recognizing her for her FridaysForFuture movement of young people, and its 52,000 cash prize that goes with the award, until leaders in Nordic countries start to take action in accordance with what “the science says” is necessary to limit global temperature rise.
That prize would have payed for the highly anticipated pacific sailing trip to Santiago. 29 Nov planned action will likely go ahead.
Isra Hirsi, co-executive director of the Youth Climate Strike, and daughter of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), warned yesterday that in 2020, young people will support and vote for leaders “who will listen to us, because we will be here, striking, marching, rallying and voting.” Varshini Prakash, cofounder of the Sunrise Movement of young environmental hit squads, added “We’re putting all politicians on notice. If you don’t stand with our generation and back the Green New Deal, young people will make your life hell as you try to get re-elected next year.”
We should lower the voting age even more so we could have Santa Claus as the next president.
the sourfaced gretas media are very very quiet
where the hell is the little shit?
She will be participating in the LA “climate strike” tomorrow (Nov. 1). Since her plans hinged on heading south to Mexico and eventually Chile, those are out the window. The Greta choo-choo has ground to a halt, and is now directionless. Even if they did manage to find a new location, I don’t believe they could do it without re-scheduling to next year. But would they really want to have two the same year? I doubt it.
Imagine this ….. the COP25 summit final option for their gabfest is at Trump National Doral Miami for accommodations and then protests from the greens and the usual suspects shut it down and the whole sordid affair is cancelled!!!
So …. would the next gabfest be COP25 or would it be COP26? Would having it at Black Rock Desert along with “Burning Man” be the most appropriate option? Yea … that’s the ticket!
OMG! All those hotel and airline reservations will have to be changed. Chile would be too “chilly” anyway. How ’bout Tahiti?
“Just as the science becomes more robust about rising carbon levels driving up temperatures and triggering a range of dangerous impacts,”
You mean it wasn’t robust before?? That’s what I thought. So what’s different now?
No, it was robust before, but now it’s even robustier.
Seems like the perfect opportunity to conduct COP25 by teleconference! The participants can show their enthusiasm from home, doing ‘jazz hands’ in front of their computer screens. Mother Gaia would be pleased.
“Just as the science becomes more robust about rising carbon levels driving up temperatures and triggering a range of dangerous impacts,”
But wait, the skeptics have been saying for years that the science wasn’t all that robust before. So, despite the naysaying, they’re now admitting the skeptics were right all along. And since they’re claiming it’s more robust what changed to make it more robust? because as far as I can see they’re still saying the same things as when the science was, by their own admission, less robust.
Hi Linda. I’m afraid to say any chances of a debate about what is now being touted by the media as climate breakdown are long gone. The start of the media closing down debate was in the aftermath of Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth. I used to be permitted to occasionally contribute to a local Dublin radio station about climate change for a number of years. About a year ago I proposed to the station that they interview a climate sceptic science-specialising Irish father and son so as to balance the relentless climate hype that has been rampant on Irish airwaves. I was constantly sidestepped and slow rolled about who they were etc. Luckily, I had initiated this approach prior to Greta starting her antics. What has occured since her climate crusade is that what was once a disjointed agenda to stop supposed runaway global warming has now mutated into an unofficial media offensive to save the planet by whatever biased means possible. Media now consider people like us as deluded dangerous flat earthers. Hugely ironic.
Chile learns a lesson now. There is a limit to what people are ready to endure. Politicians like the grandstanding of big international events and the sunshine it brings for their careers but in the end, its the people who ensure who gets to have a comfy job in government and who stays out at every election. This is a groundswell – and fakery won’t end this.
Vostok, is my suggestion.
Spain has said it will hold the conference. I guess they all gunna fly there, including Greta.
I know a place on Cozumel that rents pedalos. Would suit 4, greta and 3 Viking companions.