Chile cancels climate and Apec summits amid mass protests

The BBC reports:

Chile has pulled out of hosting two major international summits, including a UN climate change conference, as anti-government protests continue.

President Sebastián Piñera said the decision had caused him “pain” but his government needed “to prioritise re-establishing public order”.

The COP25 climate summit was scheduled for 2 to 13 December, while the Apec trade forum was next month.

The UN said it was now looking at alternative venues.

World leaders were to gather at this year’s Conference of the Parties (COP) to discuss the implementation of the Paris Accord – a landmark international climate agreement, first signed at COP21 in December 2015.

The COP25 is turning in to a geopolitical game of hot potato:

COP25 was originally supposed to be hosted by Brazil.

But in November last year, just two months after being announced as the summit’s host nation, then President-elect Jair Bolsonaro pulled out.

The far-right leader said this was due to the change of government and budget restrictions, according to local media. However, he had recently chosen a foreign minister who claimed “climate alarmism” was just a plot by “cultural Marxists”.

A month later, Chile was selected to host the climate conference instead. Costa Rica, the other frontrunner, withdrew because of the costs involved in hosting.

Of course their “Science editor” weighs in:

This is a huge blow to hopes of progress on what many see as the crisis of climate change.

Just as the science becomes more robust about rising carbon levels driving up temperatures and triggering a range of dangerous impacts, diplomats and experts have been looking to the COP25 talks in December as a vital staging-post on the way to global action.

And of course this article foreshadows an upcoming article (here) about how people cannot adapt to an incremental change in circumstance over an 80 period, whether or not that change is exagerrated.

And as the news was announced, a US-based organisation also separately revealed that millions more people than previously thought were at risk of coastal flooding from climate-driven sea-level rise within the next century.

Full BBC article here.

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John Bell
October 30, 2019 2:13 pm

YES! It is all starting to crumble down, and the hair of the Left is on fire. HA HA HA

Robertvd
Reply to  John Bell
October 30, 2019 2:22 pm

Those who promise Utopia will always create hell

Loydo
Reply to  Robertvd
October 30, 2019 5:36 pm

Are you talking about the chimera of perpetual economic growth, aka BAU?

LdB
Reply to  Loydo
October 31, 2019 2:02 am

Business as usual works for us and good luck stopping it … I know HOW DARE WE.

Frenchie77
Reply to  Robertvd
October 31, 2019 4:39 am

But, but Greta was already on her boat. Did anyone tell her to change course to…..???

Ahh, nevermind.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Frenchie77
October 31, 2019 6:47 am

I thought she was walking to Chile, or at least riding a donkey.

PmhinSC
Reply to  John Bell
October 30, 2019 3:20 pm

Since Climategate in 2009, I have been reading that we are near the end of this madness. There is, however, too much inertia, too much money, and too many reputations on the line for this to end soon. There is a saying that “a cornered rat will bite a cat.” I don’t see that this rat is yet cornered.

Linda Goodman
Reply to  PmhinSC
October 30, 2019 4:54 pm

That’s what I’m afraid of. And every time the lies are debated it legitimizes them. And most think the fraud is only about money from thin air, which sounds no alarms. So a coordinated, hardcore offensive is needed to fully expose the fraud with FACTS, most importantly the hidden intention, in the plotters’ own diabolical words, to create an eco-totalitarian world government built on the monster of big lies. Only then is it really over and they know it, so we need to stop playing by their rules, restrictions and ridicule.

griff
Reply to  PmhinSC
October 31, 2019 2:10 am

And since 2008 I’ve been reading that there’s a new ice age coming. Still no sign of it.

John Endicott
Reply to  griff
October 31, 2019 11:28 am

Funny griff, I recall the “ice age coming” scare from way back in the 1970s. Yet climate alarmists insist that was never a thing. If it was never a thing than how can you be reading about it?

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  griff
October 31, 2019 11:42 am

You just dated yourself Griff.

Editor
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
October 31, 2019 1:16 pm

Actually he is wrong from the start, since we are already in an ice age.

LOL

Bryan A
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
November 1, 2019 4:17 pm

Griff had a date with the only person who would date Griff?

brians356
Reply to  John Bell
October 30, 2019 4:00 pm

Why not host COP25 at Trump’s Doral property?

RockyRoad
Reply to  brians356
October 30, 2019 5:40 pm

I think hosting it at Gitmo would be more appropriate, especially if all are given one-way tickets!

nw sage
Reply to  RockyRoad
October 30, 2019 6:06 pm

I think Syria, the NE corner is better – if the representatives survive that, they can survive climate change!

ATheoK
Reply to  nw sage
October 30, 2019 7:47 pm

I vote for Dutch Harbour. Downwind from the fishing ships and bait sellers.

Reply to  brians356
October 30, 2019 10:01 pm

How about Nancy Pelosi’s house with Adam Schiff as MC? 🙂

lee
Reply to  brians356
October 30, 2019 10:07 pm

I here Mawson is lovely this time of year.

Teewee
October 30, 2019 2:15 pm

President Trump should invite the conference here, to the USA and invite Anthony and others to expose their fraud. He could hold it as his golf club,

ralphie
Reply to  Teewee
October 30, 2019 3:25 pm

Yes, I love that idea, it will drive the MSM even more insane

Pat Frank
Reply to  ralphie
October 30, 2019 4:14 pm

At Mar-a-Lago. The G7 to be there was cancelled. COP25 seems like a perfect fill-in.

Greg Woods
Reply to  Teewee
October 30, 2019 4:12 pm

Burkina Faso would be ideal…

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Greg Woods
October 30, 2019 9:52 pm

The lighter, drier country.

Andy in Epsom
Reply to  Greg Woods
November 1, 2019 12:01 am

Maldives would be better. Hold it on an Island that we were told was going to dissappear with al the others there. In fact hold all meetings at places of failed predictions. Like Glaciers that have not melted away. Florida would be a good one as there were so many predictions of massive hurricanes virtually removing it from the face of the planet.

GeologyJim
Reply to  Teewee
October 30, 2019 5:30 pm

Point Barrow, Alaska

Afterall, it’s warming 5x more than the rest of the Planet!!!

and it would be fitting to turn off all fossil-fueled power sources for the duration of COP25 – you know, to “Save the Planet”

Y. Knott
Reply to  GeologyJim
October 31, 2019 7:00 am

Sorry – Point Barrow will not be available. Since Climate Crisis is happening five-times faster there, so is sea-level rise – and Point Barrow itself will be underwater by then.

– But only Point Barrow and immediate vicinity, so they could charter several cruise liners, tie them up side-by-side off the new Alaskan coast and hold COP aboard them, I suppose…

Don’t know where all the private jets will land and park though…

John Endicott
Reply to  Teewee
October 31, 2019 11:25 am

+42*42^42

Excellent idea, Teewee (was thinking along similar lines)
Trump should offer to host it here in the US of A and then invite any skeptic that’s willing to come and present the scientific facts to the attendees.

John
October 30, 2019 2:19 pm

What will Greta do now?

cali_dweller
Reply to  John
October 30, 2019 3:49 pm

perhaps she can build a wooden boat and sail home a la Kon-tiki

Kamikazedave
Reply to  John
October 30, 2019 3:51 pm

Trump should invite Greta as well.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  John
October 30, 2019 3:57 pm

Pout?

Glare?

Glare AND Pout?

Spend the now free time catching up on her education?

Scissor
Reply to  Craig from Oz
October 30, 2019 6:19 pm

Say, “How dare you?”

Gunga Din
October 30, 2019 2:20 pm

Chili won’t be hosting COP25?
Isn’t that why Greta crossed the Atlantic?
Her presence in this hemisphere was and is a waste?
Who knew?

Greg Woods
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 30, 2019 4:14 pm

Chili is too, too hot…

LdB
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 30, 2019 4:20 pm

No she went for the NY pig swill called by the UN where all countries were supposed to show up with new targets and buckets of cash. About all that came out of that was a stupid child tantrum saying How Dare You.

RockyRoad
Reply to  LdB
October 30, 2019 5:31 pm

“How dare you not fund this silly, wasteful extravaganza! The party is almost over, don’t you know???
HOW DARE YOU!!!

John Endicott
Reply to  LdB
October 31, 2019 11:33 am

LdB, She decided to take the year off from her education to attend both.

Linda Goodman
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 30, 2019 4:39 pm

Not a waste; looks like it galvanized the opposition. :}

icisil
October 30, 2019 2:21 pm

“But in November last year, just two months after being announced as the summit’s host nation, then President-elect Jair Bolsonaro pulled out.”

CO₂itus interruptus (h/t Smart Rock)

Dan Hawkins
Reply to  icisil
October 30, 2019 2:45 pm

…leaving a frustrated whore.

John Tillman
October 30, 2019 2:23 pm

Leaving Little Greta wandering the Western Hemisphere in search of a summit to harangue. Her high-carbon footprint quest has been indefinitely suspended.

Florida is a good idea, since she could reach it in her Tesla loaner.

Windsong
October 30, 2019 2:23 pm

Oh, no. My girlfriend will be very disappointed. She was going to use a ticket purchased with some of my frequent flyer miles accumulated attending most of the last 12 COP meetings. Bali was nice. Cancun was nicer. Doha was too hot; awesome city, though. Marrakech was fun. Enjoyed the beer in Bonn. Can’t remember anything we accomplished, other than racking up lots of miles. Darn. /s/

Elle Webber
October 30, 2019 2:23 pm

“millions more people than previously thought were at risk of coastal flooding from climate-driven sea-level rise”

I take it that the Obamas are included in this new figure then? They too wish to line up for financial compensation in advance of any actual flooding?

Clarky of Oz
Reply to  Elle Webber
October 30, 2019 2:28 pm

I would have thought the former Commander in Chief of the US Navy would have some idea of the likely behaviour of the oceans.

Clarky of Oz
October 30, 2019 2:25 pm

Sorry Greta, it looks like you have been stood up.

Ron Long
October 30, 2019 2:28 pm

The rioting in Chile is intended to achieve “economic equality”, which is some sort of socialists dream, something like: if you have more (of anything) than me give some of it to me. Could be more money, more rooms in your house, more golf balls (OK, probably not that), more cars, whatever. The Reality Challenged protestors who burned up many of the public transit buses are now complaining about having to wait in long lines for a bus to show up. The Chile President, Pinerio, cancelled the meetings, even though they sound like gatherings of kindred souls, because it is now impossible to establish any law and order. At first I thought this was funny, now I think it is scarey.

Fanakapan
Reply to  Ron Long
October 30, 2019 3:58 pm

Given their recent history, I have thought Chileans would worry where such riots could end up, think sports stadiums.

Exquisitely equipped militaries in nations who seem to have no overseas enemies, are always likely to have some reservations concerning mob socialism ? Unless, and like Venezuela, the military are profiting from it.

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  Ron Long
October 30, 2019 5:04 pm

It stinks of globalist fomentation.

Ron Long
Reply to  Robert W. Turner
October 31, 2019 2:48 am

Exactly!

Joel O'Bryan
October 30, 2019 2:34 pm

They are banking on a Southern Hemisphere location for some summer warmth for the delegates. The Northern Hemisphere is going to be getting slapped around by bad winter by December.

I’m thinking they should hold the conference in Caracas, Venezuela. It’ll be warm there. They can then see first hand what CO2 emissions reductions and energy poverty brings to the most oil-endowed country in the world.

joe
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 30, 2019 3:17 pm

The should hold it in Alert, on Ellesmere Island.

RicDre
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 30, 2019 3:28 pm

“They are banking on a Southern Hemisphere location…”

How about Antarctica, it’ll soon be summer there.

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 30, 2019 5:05 pm

We’re actually getting slammed by winter weather this moment.

Scissor
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 30, 2019 6:26 pm

Hotel rooms in Hong Kong are heavily discounted right now.

LdB
Reply to  Scissor
October 31, 2019 12:01 am

Same for Syria and the UN could help out these struggling economies.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  LdB
October 31, 2019 2:11 am

Afganistan?

yarpos
October 30, 2019 2:40 pm

COP25 will just have to be moved to a tourism hotspot. Its the best they will be able to do on short notice and all.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  yarpos
October 30, 2019 5:07 pm

They could always cancel it altogether. Nobody would notice.

kwinterkorn
Reply to  yarpos
October 31, 2019 11:21 am

Beijing would be just right. They could dwell up close on how the Chinese, Indians, and other developing nations have no intention of limiting CO2 production soon. Those nations are too tired of being poor.

The rising CO2 experiment is going to be played out, wailing and gnashing of teeth by the alarmists notwithstanding. Soon we will see if their climate models are right or wrong about the real world.

Bruce Cobb
October 30, 2019 2:45 pm

Here’s an idea: each country that signed the Paris “Agreement” write down what they “promised” to do (be honest, because it’s on record), and then write down what you have done since then. Subtract the latter from the former, leaving you with what you haven’t done (likely most of what you “promised”).
Shame on you, or as Greta would say, “How dare you!” Then, with many mea culpas, “promise” you’ll do better in the future, laying out specific plans for doing so. Remember, the world poor, and “developing” countries (like China) are watching, so don’t try to pull a fast one, or Greta will berate you and give you the evil eye, and we don’t want that do we? If we will all just pull together we can vanquish climate change. Yes we can!
There now, COP25 is done. It’s in the books, and it didn’t cost anything except maybe some bruised egos. Now don’t you feel better?

commieBob
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 30, 2019 3:25 pm

Eighteen countries, including the US, have decreased their CO2 emissions. link

Monster
Reply to  commieBob
October 30, 2019 3:48 pm

Since the scale is 1990-2016, much of that reduction is actually recession and failure to recover, CBob. Much of the rest, for the US, is attributable to the shift to natural gas.

icisil
Reply to  Monster
October 30, 2019 3:59 pm

And … I think a lot of Germany’s reduction was due to the shutting down of many of E Germany’s inefficient plants after re-unification.

griff
Reply to  icisil
October 31, 2019 2:11 am

And a massive investment in renewable energy.

icisil
Reply to  icisil
October 31, 2019 11:00 am

Renewables have done little to nothing to reduce CO2 emissions because spinning reserve is always needed to compensate for renewables’ unreliability. In Germany’s case that has been mostly hydrocarbon-based because they rejected nuclear. And they can always draw energy from the mostly hydrocarbon-based European grid, or dump excess renewable energy at loss to the same, when necessary; thus creating the illusion that a 24/7 grid can be powered by solar and wind.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  icisil
October 31, 2019 11:49 am

“And a massive investment in renewable energy.”
If by “investment” you mean “complete and utter waste of money”, I agree with you.

An actual investment may fare better or worse than just hiding cash somewhere.
Flushing it down the toilet is not a hiding place.

Bryan A
Reply to  icisil
November 1, 2019 4:22 pm

And massive payments to Russia and China for their Fossil Derived electricity and gas
Germany didn’t really eliminate their CO2 footprint, they just outsourced it

Robertvd
Reply to  commieBob
October 30, 2019 3:55 pm

Very bad for a greener planet. How dare they.

joe
Reply to  commieBob
October 30, 2019 4:01 pm

At this link the reduction is per person. The commitment is to reduce CO2 emissions in total.

RockyRoad
Reply to  joe
November 1, 2019 2:09 am

Now I see where genocide could come from!

Matt Thompson
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 30, 2019 4:31 pm

You think like an engineering manager. Metrics! Show me Meteics!

commieBob
Reply to  Matt Thompson
October 30, 2019 5:04 pm

Show me Meteics!

OK link

badEnglish
Reply to  commieBob
October 31, 2019 10:31 pm

commieBob, how the heck did you find that ‘out of stock’ item?! Very quick of you. +l

Andrew Dickens
October 30, 2019 2:50 pm

This could spell the end for these climate jamborees. I’m doing everything I can to ridicule COP26, scheduled for Glasgow next year. If everyone pitches in, it too could be cancelled. Please help.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Andrew Dickens
October 31, 2019 2:13 am

Or schedule a Celtics vs Rangers grudge match? (I’m honestly not sure that they have any other kind)

Robertvd
Reply to  Andrew Dickens
October 31, 2019 5:27 am

Brexit, Scotland declaring independence, English troops blockade Scottish ports and airports, EU starts bombing London etc…..

sparko
October 30, 2019 3:03 pm

Is it a coincidence that since Greta has come on the scene, everyone is starting to get cold feet about toting hairshirts ?

M Courtney
October 30, 2019 3:03 pm

Just as the science becomes more robust about rising carbon levels driving up temperatures and triggering a range of dangerous impacts…

As they have assured us for decades that the science was unquestionable, isn’t it strange that it is only just now becoming more robust?

How lacking in robustness would it need to be before the science could be questioned?

I think we will have to wait a bit yet.

William Astley
Reply to  M Courtney
October 30, 2019 3:28 pm

We need cooling, say 0.3C to start the conversations.

It is interesting that people that care about the poor (may not help the poor but they care) no longer support spending unlimited money on green stuff that does not work.

The general public is waking up to the fact that green energy is a scam.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-michael-moore-backed-film-criticizes-renewable-energy-1829377/

The movie finds, however, that 70 percent of the power Germany counts as renewable comes from biomass — a fancy term for burning trees. Biomass releases 50 percent more carbon dioxide than coal and more than three times as much as natural gas. Ironically, Germany receives carbon credits for every tree it burns.

Mr. Gibbs and Mr. Moore critique wind energy for requiring enormous amounts of copper and rare earth minerals. Wind farms also require developing large tracts of land. Solar energy gets dinged for its dependence on mining coal and quartz. They were even shocked to find a company owned by Charles and David Koch receiving solar tax credits. Electric cars sound great, but they depend on the fossil-fuel-powered electrical grid.

Rhoda R
Reply to  William Astley
October 30, 2019 10:34 pm

Ask California how that is working out these days.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  M Courtney
October 30, 2019 3:30 pm

That increasing ‘robustness’ is utter nonsense.

commieBob
October 30, 2019 3:07 pm

Just as the science becomes more robust …

???? Maybe Loydo or somebody can explain how that is the case.

LdB
Reply to  commieBob
October 30, 2019 4:22 pm

Loydo explain something … now that I would like to see.

Mark H
Reply to  commieBob
October 30, 2019 5:00 pm

Some poor scientist will “accidentally misspeak” and say that there is no evidence to support the science being described as “more robust”. Then, they’ll have to quickly walk it back by saying they meant to say “no direct evidence” and decry the vast right wing conspiracy out to get them … seems a familiar tune, maybe Loydo could provide some “insight”.

Loydo
Reply to  commieBob
October 30, 2019 5:47 pm

The basic science has been known for decades. The only question is sensitvity which will only becomes clearly defined in the rear-view mirror.

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commieBob
Reply to  Loydo
October 30, 2019 6:20 pm

So how has the science become more robust? The basic science predicts a climate sensitivity of <1.5°C / doubling of CO2. The only way we get catastrophic warming is positive feedback. Has that become more robust?

With regard to your link, Climate Audit says this.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Loydo
October 31, 2019 4:30 am

The history of CO2 vs temp shows ECS to be essentially zero. Maybe you Warmunists have a “special” rear-view mirror.

John Endicott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 31, 2019 11:38 am

Yeah, it’s a rear view mirror that makes everything look like a hockey-stick.

Gary
Reply to  Loydo
October 31, 2019 5:23 am

Sensitivity in the rear-view mirror appears scarier than it really is.

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 30, 2019 3:22 pm

You only have to look at pictures of some of the protesters with their Che Guevara complexion to know that it is the Unidad Popular all over again. Nothing to do with the purported trigger of rising ticket price of public transport, but everything with an attempt to do a power grab by the hard left.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 30, 2019 5:29 pm

“Nothing to do with the purported trigger of rising ticket price of public transport”

According to an email I got from CFACT today, the rise was due to Chile’s need to pay more for its high-priced renewable energy. I wouldn’t be surprised if the BBC chose not to mention that, if it’s true.

frani
Reply to  Roger Knights
October 30, 2019 5:46 pm

That’s a super simplistic explanation. For starting, yeah the metro ticket raise was the spark, but the movement is deeper; much like the yellow vests in France, it’s against the raising cost of living, corruption, and the general sensation of inequality and abuse, not only economical but in treatment (for ex: how the justice system treats a rich person or a poor one).
The ticket raise itself in part was due to raising electricity costs (which also is part of the wide movement; the monthly bill raised a lot this past year), but mostly because the Transportation Ministry hasn’t done the necessary public bids to implement new bus lines, buying buses and train cars, etc., so for the past year they have been doing direct contracts, which of course are more expensive. Thus the whole system became more expensive, and the algorithm that rule the ticket price went into place.
(I’m from Santiago btw)

EternalOptimist
October 30, 2019 3:35 pm

I for one am getting sick and tired of having power available at the flick of a switch, and also having peace and law and order on the streets.
Why don’t we listen to Greta, instead of mocking ?

commieBob
Reply to  EternalOptimist
October 30, 2019 4:30 pm

President Trump was right. People are getting tired of winning.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  EternalOptimist
October 30, 2019 11:30 pm

Move to a third world country then…. like Los Angeles Beverly Hills… I hear they are looking forward to the looters once the power goes out for good, and the homeless need your stuff to hock for another heroin hit.

John Endicott
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 31, 2019 11:40 am

would that be the California’s home grown homeless or the homeless that New York has been shipping out to various cities around the country?

https://nypost.com/2019/10/26/nyc-homeless-initiative-sends-people-across-us-without-telling-receiving-cities/

H.R.
October 30, 2019 4:12 pm

Well they need to hurry up and make up their minds. The prostitutes and limo services need to know far enough in advance to book flights and transport their cars.

RStabb
October 30, 2019 4:34 pm

They still have Al Gore.

Michael Jankowski
October 30, 2019 4:59 pm

The UN and all nations should realize there are many higher priorities to deal with and discuss than this garbage.

frani
Reply to  Michael Jankowski
October 30, 2019 5:48 pm

As a Chilean I couldn’t agree more. What’s happening here can happen in any other middle or high-income country, as France also showed earlier this year. The UN and the international financial system should be more worried about that than maybe-future issues like the effects of climate change.

Sunny
October 30, 2019 5:02 pm

They wanted costa rica to cover all the costs 😐 Have the u.n. no shame!!!

However, he had recently chosen a foreign minister who claimed “climate alarmism” was just a plot by “cultural Marxists”. Xr/greta/al bore, perhaps?

High Treason
October 30, 2019 5:21 pm

Time for an alternative venue. I can think of several-
1) Antarctica. It will not be catastrophically too hot. There will be no protests. Ok, no cute and cuddly polar bears, but penguins are cute. Refrigerator costs will be minimal.
2) Soviet Union- the home of Lysenkoism – how utterly appropriate. Cultural Marxism will also still be strong there.
3) North Korea- they need the foreign currency and it is a Fabian Utopia.
4) New Guinea- in the highlands where the last vestiges of cannibalism survive. The climate lunatics do have the long term goal of population control. What better way than to have a meal as well. Long pig it is called. The natives would have some delicious recipes . Better still, if the climate lunatics behave too badly, like not paying for their luvvie fest, they can become the food for the natives. Such vegan fed climate luvvies who are softer than marshmallow would probably be a delicacy.
These ones can start the list, but there are plenty of other places worthy of hosting the climate luvvies ‘ junket.

Herbert
October 30, 2019 5:22 pm

As they will need a warm Southern Hemisphere venue to avoid the Northern winter, I have written to nominate Cairns on the Great Barrier Reef.
Not only is it a tropical destination but the attendees can visit the Great Barrier Reef and see how vibrant and healthy it is in contradiction to MSM and alarmist reports.
Looks like a win/win for Australia and the UN FCCC!

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Herbert
October 31, 2019 4:41 am

aaargh NO
ok see the reefs ok bit..
but another flustercluck of warmist amarmists will just have jcrook sobbing stephen and flimflam gain limelight
as well as the obnoxious robin williams aussies version of bill nye
and all 250 of the melbourne ex reb peat luvvies and the rest would be there all gussied in wetpaint(latest stunt to avoid being moved on) and howling police abuse.
71 to be booked so far;-)

what about kiribas or tuuvalu or some other sinking paradise(not0
see chinas being bit for billions to make em a safe spot using dredging?
roflmao

Roger Knights
October 30, 2019 5:30 pm

The COP meeting was originally scheduled for Brazil, but its president is a skeptic and bowed out of hosting it. Chile stepped up and offered to do so instead—I guess its leadership is green.

frani
October 30, 2019 5:37 pm

I’m Chilean and honestly most people knew from day 1 of the mass protests (Oct 18) that these conferences couldn’t be held. The protests, riots and violence from both sides of the fight are way too big -including eventual human rights violations from the police – plus the incompetence of Piñera’s government makes it hard to see when/where this will end; all of that is risky for foreign visitors. It also would’ve been a further slap in the face of the people to have the government receive all those “important” people to talk about high minded ideals, spending lots of public money, whilst we have such a mess here. COP25 specially sounded so ludicrous; you can’t have ecological sustainability without social sustainability! People here care about environmental issues and climate change (in abstract), specially regarding droughts, but to have “eminences” tell us how to behave to “save the world” in a country where most people don’t make it to the end of the month (middle class folk use credit to buy basic things like groceries), it’s a joke. All the issues that are fuelling the movement where hidden in plain sight… I’m glad these events were cancelled, and I couldn’t be happier Greta won’t come lol. And I hope all of this is for the best.

J Mac
October 30, 2019 5:50 pm

The riots across Chile ostensibly grew out of a 4% increase in subway fares in Santiago. The socialists and anarchists in Chile seized the moment and launched attacks on rail stations, grocery stores, high rise buildings, banks, and assorted infrastructure across Chile. They are succeeding in making life for the average Chilean far more difficult, by destroying the infrastructure that sustains them. The riots reflect the attempts of the socialists and anarchist to over throw the elected government of Chile, using poverty and class resentment as their cover and source of ‘useful tools’. The Chilean government is a constitutional republic, with branches for Executive, Legislative, and Judicial functions.

President Pinera decided he could not guarantee security of the attendees at the APEC trade forums and COPout25, while the anarchist and socialists pursued their hell-bent campaign of terrorism in Chile.

October 30, 2019 5:58 pm

“The UN said it was now looking at alternative venues”

Twitter maybe

Great transparency
Low cost to the taxpayers who are paying for it. Low emissions too.

LdB
Reply to  Chaamjamal
October 31, 2019 12:02 am

I still think Syria, it’s cheap.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Chaamjamal
October 31, 2019 2:21 am

They can’t use Twitter. If they did, people would be able to actually reply and ask actual questions.

That’s a big no no. See what happened when Christopher managed a sneaky question once at an unguarded mic.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Chaamjamal
October 31, 2019 3:14 am

Why not Antarctica? Since all the ice has melted it should be a good place for a jamboree with tents and campfires.

Michael S. Kelly LS, BSA Ret.
October 30, 2019 6:17 pm

Some wonderful long-time friends of mine are originally from Mumbai, and are adherents of Zoroastrianism – one of the oldest religions on Earth. They have some dietary rules that push them toward more vegetarian meals, the main rule being “eat no food with a face.”

I sincerely hope they are never eating French fries should they ever run across that horrific title photograph….

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly LS, BSA Ret.
October 30, 2019 7:22 pm

If I can mash the keyboard and chip in, I would just like to say that face or not, I still find the idea of eating potato a-peal-ling.

Michael S. Kelly LS, BSA Ret.
Reply to  Craig from Oz
October 31, 2019 5:24 am

+42

Michael S. Kelly LS, BSA Ret.
Reply to  Charles Rotter
October 30, 2019 10:43 pm

Oh, and the steamroller scene from Austin Powers has long been my favorite analog of the climate “emergency.” Good on you for including the (deleted) scene of Mrs. Henchman!

Bryan A
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly LS, BSA Ret.
November 1, 2019 4:27 pm

Well nothing with a face let’s out grubs and all other insects.
Potatoes are a-peeling but potato bugs definitely not

Rod Evans
October 31, 2019 1:01 am

Oh no!! this is just terrible news. Where will all the newly appointed not elected Presidents of the European Union go to be presidential now? The President of the EU commission, The President of the EU council, The President of the EU central bank, The President of the EU Parliament, The President of the EU monetary zone.
These are very important people, many of them were town councillors before their elevation to Presidenthood (sic) don’t you know. Where can their corporate jets fly to now?
I should also mention, the EU High Commissioner for Foreign Affairs, not a president, but the highest paid appointed nobody in the EU. Where will he/she/it go to be Presidential, sorry I miss spoke, sorry, I mean go to be High Commissioner.
Do these Chilean rioters not realise, the damage they are doing to the none elected establishment appointees?
As for that poor child who can see CO2, what ever happened to her super powers? Did she not know before that sailing adventure across the Atlantic, the Cop out meeting was going to be cancelled? Her futurology compass was clearly on the blink.
As for poor old Al, well he was always uncertain if he could make it, due to the ongoing snow falls and clearing the side walk outside your home obligations. All that tootling back and forth with a snow shovel, to his many snowed in properties wasn’t supposed to be happening. I recall some nobody a few years back saying, we would not know what snow is by now…..
I have no doubt, Canada will step up and offer to host this very important COP jamboree. The authorities are just a bit anxious, they are not sure if any Canadian airport will be open in December. This early global warming we are having falling in white flakes and building up in huge piles all around the country is such a messy problem. Saint Greta has been asked to intervene, she was last pictured raging at the snow screaming, “How Dare You”!!

Reply to  Rod Evans
October 31, 2019 12:43 pm

I do NOT want COP25 in London.
Es[pecially if Al Gore III is attending.
London doesn’t do snow – but the Al-Gore-ithm Guy brings Climate Change in White wherever he goes.
No Thank You.

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mikewaite
October 31, 2019 1:56 am

This is part of what they are saying over at Jonova about the background to the situation :

-“Apparently the train fares were rising partly because of renewables:
James Taylor, Heartland, Epoch Times
Santiago Metro fares are rising, despite falling oil and gasoline prices, because government officials in 2018 traded out most of the Metro’s energy sources from conventional power to wind and solar power. The Chilean government also hit the portion of conventional power that remains with new carbon dioxide taxes.
In 2015 Chile was the first country in South America to enforce a carbon tax of $5 a ton. The actual dollars didn’t start coming out of people’s wallets until 2018. The government expected to collect $160m in taxes, so that’s less than $10 per capita. But as we all know, there are hidden costs with the “transition” to random energy generators, perhaps the knock on costs are much larger?”-
http://joannenova.com.au/2019/10/chile-cancels-un-climate-conference-weeks-out-cop25-forced-to-move/

Carbon taxes? Perhaps not conducive to public order .

J Mac
Reply to  mikewaite
October 31, 2019 9:41 am

mikewaite,
Thanks for that additional background!

James Snook
October 31, 2019 1:59 am

Had to smile at the concluding para of the BBC report on the new catastrophic sea level rise paper that majored on the threat to Bangkok:

“In places, the ground is going down 10 times faster than the water is coming up.
This has been true of places like Jakarta, Ho Chi Minh City, and Bangkok where too much groundwater has been extracted from underlying soils.”

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 31, 2019 3:17 am

It’s a COP-out

bonbon
October 31, 2019 3:35 am

Poor Greta – sour grapes. She turned down the prestigious Nordic Council’s 2019 Environmental Award which was recognizing her for her FridaysForFuture movement of young people, and its 52,000 cash prize that goes with the award, until leaders in Nordic countries start to take action in accordance with what “the science says” is necessary to limit global temperature rise.

That prize would have payed for the highly anticipated pacific sailing trip to Santiago. 29 Nov planned action will likely go ahead.

Isra Hirsi, co-executive director of the Youth Climate Strike, and daughter of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), warned yesterday that in 2020, young people will support and vote for leaders “who will listen to us, because we will be here, striking, marching, rallying and voting.” Varshini Prakash, cofounder of the Sunrise Movement of young environmental hit squads, added “We’re putting all politicians on notice. If you don’t stand with our generation and back the Green New Deal, young people will make your life hell as you try to get re-elected next year.”

Robertvd
Reply to  bonbon
October 31, 2019 5:36 am

We should lower the voting age even more so we could have Santa Claus as the next president.

ozspeaksup
October 31, 2019 4:46 am

the sourfaced gretas media are very very quiet
where the hell is the little shit?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  ozspeaksup
October 31, 2019 6:02 am

She will be participating in the LA “climate strike” tomorrow (Nov. 1). Since her plans hinged on heading south to Mexico and eventually Chile, those are out the window. The Greta choo-choo has ground to a halt, and is now directionless. Even if they did manage to find a new location, I don’t believe they could do it without re-scheduling to next year. But would they really want to have two the same year? I doubt it.

eyesonu
October 31, 2019 6:32 am

Imagine this ….. the COP25 summit final option for their gabfest is at Trump National Doral Miami for accommodations and then protests from the greens and the usual suspects shut it down and the whole sordid affair is cancelled!!!

So …. would the next gabfest be COP25 or would it be COP26? Would having it at Black Rock Desert along with “Burning Man” be the most appropriate option? Yea … that’s the ticket!

beng135
October 31, 2019 7:02 am

OMG! All those hotel and airline reservations will have to be changed. Chile would be too “chilly” anyway. How ’bout Tahiti?

Crispin in Waterloo
October 31, 2019 7:31 am

“Just as the science becomes more robust about rising carbon levels driving up temperatures and triggering a range of dangerous impacts,”

You mean it wasn’t robust before?? That’s what I thought. So what’s different now?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
October 31, 2019 1:27 pm

No, it was robust before, but now it’s even robustier.

moray watson
October 31, 2019 9:05 am

Seems like the perfect opportunity to conduct COP25 by teleconference! The participants can show their enthusiasm from home, doing ‘jazz hands’ in front of their computer screens. Mother Gaia would be pleased.

John Endicott
October 31, 2019 11:53 am

“Just as the science becomes more robust about rising carbon levels driving up temperatures and triggering a range of dangerous impacts,”

But wait, the skeptics have been saying for years that the science wasn’t all that robust before. So, despite the naysaying, they’re now admitting the skeptics were right all along. And since they’re claiming it’s more robust what changed to make it more robust? because as far as I can see they’re still saying the same things as when the science was, by their own admission, less robust.

Eoin mc
October 31, 2019 12:37 pm

Hi Linda. I’m afraid to say any chances of a debate about what is now being touted by the media as climate breakdown are long gone. The start of the media closing down debate was in the aftermath of Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth. I used to be permitted to occasionally contribute to a local Dublin radio station about climate change for a number of years. About a year ago I proposed to the station that they interview a climate sceptic science-specialising Irish father and son so as to balance the relentless climate hype that has been rampant on Irish airwaves. I was constantly sidestepped and slow rolled about who they were etc. Luckily, I had initiated this approach prior to Greta starting her antics. What has occured since her climate crusade is that what was once a disjointed agenda to stop supposed runaway global warming has now mutated into an unofficial media offensive to save the planet by whatever biased means possible. Media now consider people like us as deluded dangerous flat earthers. Hugely ironic.

Rudolf Huber
October 31, 2019 4:23 pm

Chile learns a lesson now. There is a limit to what people are ready to endure. Politicians like the grandstanding of big international events and the sunshine it brings for their careers but in the end, its the people who ensure who gets to have a comfy job in government and who stays out at every election. This is a groundswell – and fakery won’t end this.

Joe Adams
November 1, 2019 3:14 am

Vostok, is my suggestion.

Patrick MJD
November 1, 2019 6:47 am

Spain has said it will hold the conference. I guess they all gunna fly there, including Greta.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 1, 2019 9:30 am

I know a place on Cozumel that rents pedalos. Would suit 4, greta and 3 Viking companions.

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