A climate skeptic answers the fiery rhetoric of the Left’s star climate alarmist
Opinion by JACQUES VOORHEES (from his Facebook page)
Note: Greta’s speech is reprinted below. Her quotes are in italic, mine follow each quote. If it turns out there were errors in transcription—as seems likely—I’ll try to update with corrections. I apologize for the snarky tone, but if a 17-year-old can dish it out, I think she can take it.
“My message is that we’ll be watching you. This is all wrong, I shouldn’t be up here, I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean.”
So in your first paragraph you confess that what you’re doing is wrong, and you shouldn’t be doing it. You note you should be back home and in school. OK, so far we’re 100% in agreement. Next?
“Yet, you all come to us young people for hope, how dare you?”
Not sure where you’re getting your information. No sentient adult goes to young people “for hope,” whether they’ve been “dared” to or otherwise. Normally, when adults consider young people like yourself, the operative word is “despair.” And if you’re unfamiliar with that word, it means “absence of hope.”
“You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words…”
Wow, you must have had very fragile dreams, and an even more precarious childhood, if mere empty words could steal them. Even words loaded with meaning shouldn’t be able to take down someone’s dreams that easily, if the dreams are even a little bit deeply held. But empty words? Greta, you need to find better dreams and cling to them with more determination. As for your stolen childhood, this makes me suspect you didn’t exactly win the lottery when it comes to parents, did you? Just sayin’.
“…and yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering, people are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing.”
OK, sounds like someone’s been playing too much of the computer video game Civilization. Yes, in Sid Meier’s Civilization VI people are suffering, people are dying, and entire ecosystems are collapsing. Meanwhile back in reality, none of that is occurring. Well, none of it that is caused by human emissions of carbon dioxide at least. Greta, try to spend a few hours each day actually off your computer, so you can experience the world as it really is, not as your scary online world, and your handlers, are convincing you it must be.
“We are in the beginning of a mass extinction…”
Now it seems you’ve fallen into a time machine which has transported you back to the Yucatan Peninsula, sixty-five million years ago, when the comet was about to annihilate the dinosaurs. Either that or someone is doing a very good job of filling your head with utter nonsense. Shame on them, for scaring the socks off you. There is no evidence that we’re at the beginning of a mass extinction–certainly not of any life forms we care about.
“…and all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth. How dare you?”
Um, did your speechwriter not know the audience you’d be addressing today? You’re speaking to diplomats in the United Nations General Assembly. There is probably no group of people on Earth less interested in economic growth than these folks. They don’t really care about money, either, as they’re all on generous expense accounts and—thanks to diplomatic immunity—can park anywhere they want in Manhattan without worrying about being ticketed or towed. First rule of public speaking: Know your audience.
“For more than 30 years the science has been crystal-clear.”
Did you bother to look at any of that science? Thirty years ago they were saying Manhattan would be under water by now. Most every prediction so called “climate scientists” have made during the past thirty years has failed to come true. This is not science being crystal-clear. It is shamanism being crystal-clear. You need to learn the difference. A science that is not able to make what are called “useful, non-obvious predictions” is not science. It’s religion. And, I’m sorry, but you’ve become ensnared in the climate cult’s terrible clutches.
“How dare you continue to look away and come here saying that you’re doing enough when the politics and solutions needed are still nowhere in sight.”
Another rule of effective speaking: don’t contradict yourself, especially within a single sentence. If the “politics and solutions needed are still nowhere in sight,” what exactly are you expecting these UN diplomats to do, beyond what they’re already doing? If the solutions are truly nowhere in sight, you’re certainly not going to get them from this crowd.
“You say you hear us and that you understand the urgency but no matter how sad and angry I am, I do not want to believe that because if you really understood the situation and still kept on failing to act then you would be evil and that I refuse to believe.”
Greta, on this one, best go with “evil.” Again, you’re addressing the core members of the United Nations, arguably the most worthless organization on the planet today. Even if they did believe something was an urgent problem, they’d not have the collective will to do anything about it. Actually, a better description than evil in this case would be “utterly f…..g worthless.” Remember, these are the very folks who commissioned the IPCC itself, and told it to make reports…every six years. You’d think if the world was about to end, reports of it happening could be slightly more frequent.
“The popular idea of cutting our emissions in half in 10 years only gives us a 50% chance of staying below 1.5 degrees and the risk of setting off irreversible chain reactions beyond human control. 50% may be acceptable to you but those numbers do not include tipping points, most feedback loops, additional warming hidden by toxic air pollution, or the aspects of equity and climate justice, they also rely on my generation sucking hundreds of billions of tons of your CO2 out of the air with technologies that barely exist. So, a 50% risk is simply not acceptable to us, we who have to live with the consequences.”
Are you aware that you’re quoting alarmist predictions from the very scientists who’ve yet to be right about any of their predictions? Does that not concern you?
“How dare you pretend that this can be sold with just business as usual and some technical solutions with today’s emissions levels that remaining CO2 budgets will be entirely gone within less than 8 and a half years.”
Well, ignoring that the sentence itself is gibberish, what exactly are you wanting anyone to do? You just told us that there are no solutions anywhere in sight. You’re very good at saying what you’re angry about. But we haven’t yet heard the grand plan that will solve everything. If you don’t have it, do you really think these diplomats sitting in front of you do?
“There will not be any solutions or plans presented in line with these figures here today because these numbers are too uncomfortable and you are still not mature enough to tell it like it is.”
Your rhetoric is slipping into the category of deranged, verbal nonsense, but I do find it interesting that you—a seventeen year old—“dares” (if we can borrow your favorite word) to tell an audience of people over twice your age, that they are insufficiently mature. Rarely does insulting your audience achieve desired results, in public speaking. Might be time to consider firing your speech writer.
“You are failing us but the young people are starting to understand your betrayal. The eyes of all future generations are upon you and if you choose to fail us I say we will never forgive you. We will not let you get away with this. Right here, right now, is where we draw the line the world is waking up and change is coming whether you like it or not.”
Well, if change is coming whether they like it or not, why are you even bothering to give this speech? And by the way, what change is coming? You’ve already confessed there are no solutions in sight. This would seem to suggest change is not coming, at least anytime soon. And as for the eyes of all future generations being on the UN General Assembly, good luck with that. Even the eyes of today’s generation aren’t on anything the UN General Assembly does—much less will be the eyes of all generations unto the end of time. But I’m sure the people you’re addressing right now wish they were that important.
Anyway, Greta, a word of advice. You’re clearly a very upset and angry young lady, with endless dedication to your goals. Rather than hurl hate-filled rhetoric at a room of old folks whom you rightly predict won’t do what you want them to do, why don’t you roll up your sleeves and try to make a difference yourself? I think we can all agree that public speaking is probably not your best contribution to the Cause. Go back to school, take some atmospheric physics, basic chemistry, and geology classes. Maybe dabble with the design of that machine that’s going to suck all the CO2 out of the atmosphere. Trust me, it’s not yet on anyone’s drawing board. You can be the first!
And a bonus. If you truly study this issue that has so captured your attention, pretty soon you’re going to learn that the whole thing is one gigantic hoax, the greatest hoax in human history, being perpetrated by the government-educational-industrial complex. You’re going to learn that pretty much everything that’s been indoctrinated into your head is false. You’re going to learn that real scientists, tens of thousands of them, have already learned this and have gone on record as acknowledging it. You’re going to learn you’re being used by adults to turn you into a propagandist for shamanistic alarmism, and you’re going to realize that because of it, you’ve been the victim of massive child abuse.
When you learn all this, I predict that your present anger is going to look like a calm, tranquil lake compared to how you will feel then. I predict at that point you’ll decide to write your own speech. And no matter who’s in the audience when you give it, I predict it will be scathing.
Ms. Thunberg’s speech at the U.N. – video:
Full transcript:
The Thunderbird is getting very angry and unless you agree to her demands, she will do the Grand Stomp-around, and you will be very sorry.
I watched her speech yesterday, watcher her body language, facial expressions and tone and that was my takeaway thought at the end. Just a typical teenager not getting what they want, no demand, and packing a big sad-on an stomping away to her room.
My other takeaway was that she really had no idea what she was saying really meant. I am sure she has no idea what a gigatonne is as well as all the other figures she was quoting. Some other propagandist wrote it.
I pity her. Because when all the fanfare, attention and dare I say “fame” dies she will be discarded and I am confident she is not prepared for that.
I saw a photo of her earlier today standing next to Soros. Now it all makes sense.
If nothing else she should be admired for her courage to stand in front of that particular crowd and say the things she did with a stone face, Regardless of not being correct.
Her stone faced lack of expression is a symptom of her disorder, also known as lack of affect.
She was literally preaching to the choir. The media, academia, the entertainment industry, and large swathes of the world’s population believe the lunacy she was spouting. What exactly was brave about that?
She was not preaching to the choir. She was preaching to us. She was talking in front of the choir because only the choir could give her a global stage. I don’t think that there is any question that those angry eyes were looking right at you and me, although I can’t explain how she could see us through the haze of CO2!
Her mother is an opera star and her dad is an actor….I can tell u this much, I believe both her parents are activist plus her school teachers are as well.
Her friends according to her don’t see any hope in the future. She blames everything on fossil fuels and couldn’t tell you why, just only what she’s been told. If you asked her what was the components the air we breathe
am sure she could not answer you …78%nitrogen
20% oxygen
.03% carbon dioxide
.97 argon
1% water vapor
In general you should occupy 0.38% of the earth’s total atmosphere
Sorry, but I can’t agree. The subject is one of potential apocalypse: either the collapse of the planetary ecosystem according to the left-wing globalists who peddle the story, or the collapse of the industrial and economic system if we attempt to reduce our CO2 emissions as envisaged.
Being wrong in this scenario is flatly unforgivable, no matter how passionately the convictions are held. In fact the passion makes it worse, because it ensures that the convictions will be defended irrespective of whether they survive contact with reality.
The most important thing about Greta Thunberg is mentioned in the article: she’s being used by a grossly cynical and venal agenda as a way to deflect legitimate inspection of its actions. She is not stupid, and will one day realise this.
I feel sorry for her and her family when that day comes.
Goldminor, soros, as in george soros! If so somebody needs to look in to the families finances, I read her mum quit working due to co2 😐. How do they pay the bills?
gold minor
have you a link to that photo?
tonyb
I have checked out the photo and it was photoshopped. It was originally a picture of greta and Gore. Not sure that makes it much better but just for the record the soros photos is false
https://fullfact.org/online/greta-thunberg-george-soros/
Tonyb
Thanks, never thought that it may be phony. I am surprised though at the picture from 2018 as I do not remember hearing her name until just recently. Was this entire sorry episode of presenting a young girl with serious problems as their climate voice planned over a period of several years? That is disgusting to me.
If she is standing next to Soros then she getting paid the be the new “face of climate change”. I wonder if her parent’s livelihood are someway connected solar or wind power.
My personal opinion is that Greta Thunberg needs to go to University on another continent. A very long way away from her parents. She can detox from climate witchcraft there, study domething she is genuinely interested in and generally experience life not at the beck and call of her dodgy mother.
You never know, she might take up mountain biking, learn to dance, drink some champagne and escape from her current straitjacket.
She ain’t gonna get to university if she doesn’t finish high school!
Can you please provide a link to the photo of her with Soros. I’d like to put it up on PSI-Australia
We will not let you get away with it !
Wow , now I’m really scared. So you’re going to put all grown ups in jail ??
Consider that she and her parents are antifa – now read this again with that in mind:
“if you choose to fail us I say we will never forgive you. We will not let you get away with this. Right here, right now, is where we draw the line the world is waking up and change is coming whether you like it or not.” I think it was Dennis Prager who used the term “chilling”. I would agree. What are they going to do?
Brave man.
My disgust is really aimed at her handlers including her parents who are using her like a puppet.
If she ever realizes this, I hope she acts appropriately.
The good side? The warmists are really getting desperate.
She is robotic.
I was astounded by how her childhood was apparently destroyed or something.. tell that to the child labourers all over the Third World…or those that suffer from gut wrenching poverty and disease still…
White privilege is a word thrown about by liberals to make every white person feel guilty…the irony of course is that the white liberals of this world are the biggest beneficiaries of this privilege
If you don’t stop and do what she wants she is going to hold her breath and turn blue. Isn’t that how all the little kiddies throw a tantrum. For a 16 year old she sure knows how to act like a 10 year old. I would not have been able to stop laughing like we all do at kids, what gets me is the press talking its seriously.
Holding her breath is the only way she can truly be Carbon neutral.
Should be encouraged for all ‘progressives’…..
Well you are certainly right with the charge of child abuse, some people who should know better are using this poor girl who does have a mental medical condition for their own ends. Once she has a complete breakdown and is no longer of any use to them she will be forgotten
For sure, John. Remember how long it took democrats to toss Christine Blasio Ford under the bus when she was no longer any further use?
I think there’s a possibility that she could have become an extreme embarrassment. link
When certain ‘facts’ are required, the left has no lack of volunteers willing to concoct those facts.
Best on which is turned against first…Greta or AOC
Oh, I’m so hoping that a quality candidate from each party, Republican and Democrat, runs against AOC and routs her in 2020 – especially (and more likely, unfortunately) in the Democratic primary. Because she is as big a moron as Greta is, and just about as immature. I’ve read that the people in her district, especially the Queens portion of her district, was fed up with her lack of constituent service even back earlier in the year already. If a seasoned Democrat runs against her in the next primary, AOC could (hopefully) be a one-term wonder.
If we could actually “suck all the CO2 out of the atmosphere,” would that doom all plant life—and by extension all human life. But then, I’ve always viewed Eco-Fascists as first and foremost genocidal.
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/24/500-scientists-write-u-n-there-is-no-climate-emergency/
‘How dare you?’ is a question she’s clearly never been asked herself.
She’s a common scold, a public nuisance, and she should be treated as such.
Yup.
And now that she has taken on an angry making-hate-faces affect, and turned the corner and from nervous Nellie scold to insulting know-it-all, she is gonna find out that any sympathy or leeway she used to garner will quickly evaporate and be replaced by in-kind replies. She has revealed herself as just another selfish brat, full of herself and wanting everyone to see everything her way and arrange things they way she thinks she would like them to be.
I am 100% sure that she would not like the world as it would be if her wish suddenly became true.
Lucky for her and everyone else that will not happen.
Because most everyone else, especially the people she was addressing, are every bit as selfish as she is.
And what she is asking for amounts to taking away almost everything from almost everyone, and making sure it stays that way.
The fact is, the people on the alarmist side are the ones preventing any real progress on environmental issues, or problems with solutions which are just a matter of attention and money.
Incredibly, they are even the ones against any of the actual CO2-free replacements that exist for a substantial fraction of fossil fuel derived energy, which are of course hydro and nuclear.
It’s hard to believe she’s 16…they did a good job of making her look 10
See above I said same thing, she did everything except threaten to hold her breath.
… but no matter how sad and angry I am …
This is clearly the deep thought of a 10yo … who appears to have been holding her breath till she turns purple. What children and adolescents FAIL to understand is that THEIR emotions are fleeting, ephemeral, and ultimately meaningless. Even worse … emotions cloud judgement … usually at the precise time reason, logic and knowledge are called-for.
This is why children should be allowed to be children. Doing the JOB of childhood, which is to learn and grow whilst doing mostly inconsequential “kid things”. She needs to go on a date … and learn how quickly she’ll bore her date with depressing tirades about the end of the world. That sort of “growth” will suit her well.
A girl with the mind and mental maturity of a 10 year old is a little young to be allowed to go on a date.
Fools, charlatans, and politicians have hired a child of diminished capacity to lead them. Smacks of Elizabeth Barton (1506-1534).
And other fools are paying attention and fawning.
Reminds me of the three young girls who at Lours in France way back,
just looked up at the sky. Soon many others were also looking up at the sky.
We all know what resulted, made Lours famous.
MJE VK5ELL
You used to be able to start a line in Moscow with that trick. Get a few friends, line up in front of a door, wait 10 minutes, and leave. The 100 people who’ve lined up behind you won’t even notice your departure.
Stephen of Cloyes (12 1n 1212)
Nongqawuse (15 in 1856)
Bernadette Soubirous (14 in 1858)
Greta Thunberg (16 in 2019)
See the connection?
No, frankly. What is your point?
They’re all children who wanted other children to follow them and turn the world upside down.
It’s not too strange that you haven’t heard of them. They had little effect on the course of human kind except to be another example of our aberrations.
Her “speech” would have been better if her head spun around and then she projectile vomited. That would’ve been awesome.
Your comment was awesome!
In order to address her abysmal level of education and critical thinking skills, we should compile a reading list for the poor young lady – I suggest, first off:
‘Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds’.
And perhaps some Arthur Conan Doyle, as an introduction to Logic.
Perhaps some Lewis Carroll (Humpty Dumpty) as an introduction to the kind of logic used by the Warmists…
Now I have to clean my computer screen.
+10
ROTFLOL!
Here’s the real problem for poor Greta and the CAGW extremists. Since 1990 co2 levels have increased by about 60 ppm and nearly all that increase has come from China, India and the developing world, while OECD countries emissions have virtually flat-lined.
The kiddies should take their protests to China and the developing world and so called adults should stop abusing very vulnerable children.
Very simple maths and yet nobody seems to understand?
Neville you can take that back to about 1975.. for the past 45 years all of the increase has come from China, India, and the developing world
http://www.yaleclimatemediaforum.org/pics/0713_Fig1.jpg
‘How dare you’ !
India’s emissions are still very low – at only 1.8 tonnes of CO2 per capita. The U.S. is more than 8 times that of India.
More capitas in India.
Climate Concerned India’s Coal Imports Surging
Eric Worrall / 13 hours ago September 18, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/09/18/climate-concerned-indias-coal-imports-surging/
ResourceGuy July 31, 2019 at 10:56 am
Meanwhile in India…..
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/india-expects-coal-fired-power-130601073.html
India Green Lights Fossil Fuels, Announces Electrification and Clean Cooking for All Rural Homes by 2022
By Vijay Jayaraj, Master Resource, July 30, 2019
https://www.masterresource.org/india-energy/india-green-lights-fossil-fuels-announces-electrification-and-clean-cooking-for-all-rural-homes-by-2022/
52 coal mines opened in 5 years to fuel power drive
By Sanjay Dutta, The Times of India, Jan 23, 2018 [H/t GWPF]
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/government-opened-52-coal-mines-to-fuel-pm-narendra-modis-electrification-drive/articleshow/67646776.cms
[SEPP Comment: Rural electrification is occurring.]
India ramps up spending on coal exploration as it slashes funds for mine safety
By Sudarshan Varadhan, Reuters, Feb 1, 2019 [H/t GWPF]
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/india-ramps-spending-coal-exploration-164148471.html
Ashok Patel-
What you say is true. But consider this: what if the U.S. reduced it’s per capita emission to the current of level of India. Would that reduction produce any significant reduction in global temperature (using the current models)? Answer: It would not.
As I understand India’s pledge to the Paris Accord, they will not sacrifice economic development to reduce CO2 production (Which I absolutely agree with). So when India has developed to same economic level as the U.S. (and I certainly hope they will), with 8 tons of CO2 per capita, would that increase have any effect on global temperature (again using the current models)? The answer is: Of course it would.
Only the radical greens want the developed and developing world to live like the third world, in complete poverty, to produce some CO2 level that they think will keep the world temperature from raising 2 degree C (or is it 1.5? I can’t keep up).
See Comparision of CO2 emission
Err, your point is (aside from irrelevant)…??
China and India are both populous and in Asia, but there the similarities end. China emits 400-500% more than India which one difference in this field.
Should Asians follow and blindly bundle the US with Canada or the US with Russia, because the latter are all at higher northern latitudes and their inhabitants snow white?
“The kiddies should take their protests to China and the developing world.”
Now that would be fun to watch. And they’d learn something of the realities of life outside the first world coccoon.
PJ O’Rourke wrote a funny paragraph about how any green speaker telling a crowd in India to give up on their desires for cars, A/C, washing machines, etc. would need to be rescued by helicopter.
That’s because these kids are semi numerate at best. I suggest they have their calculators removed and be subject to compulsory use of the slide rule and log tables for all calculations in their schooling. After a year or so they will be thoroughly numerate and their arithmetic skills will have improved dramatically.
I can think of UK politicians who would benefit from this regime.Viz Diane Abbot.
Disagree. While China and India may have surpassed the rest of the world in CO2 emissions, to say that the increase is because of that plays into the hands of the warmunists. Yes, concentrations have increased by 60ppm – but we don’t know with absolute certainty where it came from. If the planet is warming naturally, the ocean burping could easily account for all of that.
I suggest she immediately fly to Great Falls MT and travel to East Glacier to cool off in the fall weather this Friday.
Action Recommended: Make preparations per the instructions
Issued by: Great Falls – MT, US, National Weather Service,
…WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY AFTERNOON… * WHAT…Blizzard conditions possible. Total snow accumulations of 18 to 36 inches, with locally higher amounts in the mountains. Record or near-record cold temperatures in the teens and 20s with wind chills zero to 15 above zero. North to northeast winds 15 to 30 mph with gusts as high as 40 mph. * WHERE…Northern Rockies, Rocky Mountain Front, and adjacent plains of north-central Montana. * WHEN…From Friday evening through Sunday afternoon. * IMPACTS…Extreme impacts possible, including to power infrastructure including power lines resulting in widespread power outages, agricultural interests; outdoor recreational interests including camping and hunting activities; and travel. Widespread significant tree damage is possible with heavy wet snow and strong winds impacting trees with foliage. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS…This early-season winter storm and/or blizzard has the potential to set a new benchmark for snow accumulations, cold temperatures, and resulting impacts for parts of the Northern Rockies and the Rocky Mountain Front. A similar storm in 1934 produced prolific amounts of snow in late September over north-central Montana. An extension and/or expansion of Winter Storm Watches are likely. * CONFIDENCE…High on accumulations, winds, and expected impacts. There is low to moderate confidence on the timing of onset and end of this winter storm event. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS… Monitor the latest forecasts for updates on this situation. && “
I think Great Falls is not in this storm area. Try:
Kalispell, Glacier Park International Airport (KGPI)
This is a warning from the Missoula NWS Office
and all the way down to here in Bozeman by the Weekend…..
https://www.weather.gov/media/tfx/sitreport/sitreport.pdf
The adults who have terrorized and brainwashed this innocent child with their own baseless fears are guilty of child abuse.
Does it qualify as slavery? Probably not .. just an extremely bad parenting. Here a sick child educates her parents.
Doublegoodplus.
It is the child abusers that should be punished. As the earth cools, it will Be Greta that either has to remain in denial or will suddenly realize that she has proclaimed her stupidity to the entire world. How will she face that?
If she’s this angry about nothing, imagine how angry she’ll be if she ever learns the truth. Although, it seems more likely that she’ll end up in jail for eco-terrorism first. We see this all the time where lies are used to indoctrinate youth into ideological causes in order to breed supporters whose ends justify any means which leads to really bad choices.
Self-immolation is more likely.
“50% may be acceptable to you but those numbers do not include tipping points, most feedback loops, additional warming hidden by toxic air pollution, or the aspects of equity and climate justice, they also rely on my generation sucking hundreds of billions of tons of your CO2 out of the air with technologies that barely exist.”
The technology does exist, Greta. Plant a tree. You’ll feel better tomorrow morning.
Plant a tree in Sweden, so it can be cut down for biomass fuel to support your country’s ‘carbon neutral’ lie.
Craig, it is interesting that Sweden has fared poorly in the tree management business compared with Finland next door.
The great CO2 sucking mechanism absolutely exists. It is called the tundra or taiga. When ice sheets covered great swathes of the northern hemisphere there were few trees, and CO2 fell to a very low level. This is the opposite of what should happen according to the “CO2 is left over if there are no forests” theory. Ignore that.
When the ice sheets melted the permafrost took over with a few inches of melting in summer. Then the permafrost retreated north a few thousand km and we have only a few million sq km of it left. About 14m.
When it melts, which I hope it does, billions of trees will grow there without us lifting a finger. The birds will replant the entire Arctic. Trees already cover the tundra to a height of one or two feet. If the permafrost melts they will grow rapidly.
Suppose a tree weighs one ton. Half of that is carbon. So at a tree density of one per 5 sq m in an unpopulated region, then after about 100 years the trees will have absorbed over a trillion tons of carbon out of the atmosphere and sequestered it in a vast renewable energy farm. That’s trillion with a T. And that doesn’t count the systematic sequestration of carbon in the root systems and grasses.
Such an amount will pull about 40 years worth of CO2 out of the air at today’s emission rate.
http://www.forestecologynetwork.org/climate_change/sequestration_facts.html
The total stored in boreal forests will certainly reach the current content of 106 tons carbon per acre, or about 18 trillion tons of carbon. Even if we were to continue at today’s rate of emission, the new trees and biomass would absorb 750 years worth of it, resulting in no net increase in the concentration.
You want to suck CO2 out of the air? Melt the permafrost or stand back and let Nature continue to do so as it has for the past 20,000 years.
There is no climate crisis caused by CO2. There isn’t nearly enough of it as things are now.
And all the above figures assume that Antarctica will remain frozen. Toss that into the forest area and see what happens.
15,000 years ago, Sweden was an iceberg !
I’ve planted 100+.
Can I go on living?
Talking of tree planting, when I became a New Zealand citizen, I was gifted a native tree called a Totara. They can grow for 1000 years or more. It is planted north of Wellington, the capital of NZ. If it is left to grow I believe it will absorb more CO2 than I will ever have emitted in my entire life and probably many other people too.
Please St. Greta can I now go to climate heaven?
I haven’t planted any NZ trees – just left it to our mad politician who promised to plant a billion trees, then found there was no land or labour to plant them. So put the first batch of a quarter of a million seedlings through the chipper! You wouldn’t read about it – well, not in our NZ MSM, who are too busy praising Ardern who would not mention global warming to POTUS, but thinks we should concentrate on “wellbeing”!
I’ve got a totara in my garden but have to keep topping it or it would take over. It was a present from a friend that I shouldn’t have accepted. Prickly damned thing.
And in NZ, illegal to cut down once planted.
We have hundreds of totara on our place, but our dumb politicians, who are supposed to espouse the whole fairytale, will not give any carbon credits for them. However, if we planted the whole place in radiata pine, which is harvested in 30 years, we’d get tons. Huh?
Well we live in a country where 12 year olds lead climate strkes and 16 year olds want the vote.
Maybe they’ll legislate for ice cream in schools and nap time after lunch, cars will be banned and everyone will get a scooter.
“Gutfeld on the climate hysteria protests”
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6088841742001/?playlist_id=1040983441001#sp=show-clips
Awesome…
Poor girl will probably end up in a retreat on psychedelic drugs.
The speech is nothing but the ranting and raving of a disturbed and abused child. She has been “groomed” into acting like a deranged lunatic by people who should be taking care of her. She is being used as a human shield, spewing nonsense, but beyond criticism because she is a child, parroting what she has been told. The MSM laps this up. What a fcuked up world we live in.
“She is being used as a human shield, spewing nonsense, but beyond criticism because she is a child, parroting what she has been told. The MSM laps this up. What a fcuked up world we live in.”
Exactly. Cowards hide behind women and children when they are afraid of a counter attack.
Who wrote her speech that she read? I think that she did a good job delivering it despite the nonsense. She mentioned science. The AGW conjecture seems plausible at first but a more indepth look at reveals that it is based on only partial science and is full of holes. For example, the AGW conjecture depends upon the existence of a radiant greenhouse effect caused by trace gases with LWIR absorption bands. Such a radiant greenhouse effect has not been observed in a real greenhouse, in the Earth’s atmosphere or anywhere else in the solar system for that matter. The radiant greenhouse effect is nothing but science fiction so hence the AGW conjecture is nothing but science fiction as well. The reality is that, based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, the climate change we are experiencing today is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale to support the idea that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. It is all a matter of science. Apparently it is science that Greta is not aware of. She has a general science mentality, assuming that all of the science “facts” that she has read in text books and what her handlers are telling her are true. She really needs to be back in school.
The problem being that these days the crap she is spewing is taught at the schools, all taken over by leftist “administrators” who have the same one-sided view of everything as the “media” that refuses to give any column space or air time to anyone who speaks out against the nonsense.
What “nonsense” would that be? I will issue you the same challenge I have to many other “church of the oil industry” zealots. Produce one (1) published, peer reviewed study using ALL the available data that contradicts what the science has been saying for thirty years. One. This girl has Asperger’s and English is certainly not her first language. How is your second, third or fourth language? How many royal societies do you belong to? Past all that, that this child has already accomplished more than you ever will, go ahead and produce said paper and I will come back here and apologise in public.
Shame on the child traffickers in climate eco-extremism.
The science in this case has never been ‘crystal clear’. If ECS is 1.5, which even the IPCC says it could be, there is less need to do anything.
She is making the classical mistake since someone first thought the rain gods needed to be appeased, confusing ‘ought’ with ‘is’; a very common teenager style mistake. The ‘ought’- meaning moral imperative is clear, the ‘is’ -what ECS actually is and how we should respond, is not.
As it’s Wednesday somewhere on the globe today a little humor seems appropriate-
https://cliscep.com/2019/09/22/wmo-climate-alarmist-dossier-released-ahead-of-un-summit-is-further-sexed-up-by-the-bbc/#comment-43082
From the ten seconds I could bear to watch, looks like she’s auditioning for the part of a witch in the school play. “How dare you. And your little dog, too.”
“looks like she’s auditioning”
I think someone coached her about uttering little gasps at the end of each phrase, for dramatic effect.
“You have stolen my dreams and my childhood…”
Well maybe you should have dreamed about never having to go to school again, sailing across the ocean in a multi million dollar racing yacht and becoming world famous.
I mean if THAT was you dream you could be fist pumping the air right now. Nailed It!
Her age has stolen her childhood.
Made your points but a bit sarky and snarky, still as you say…she dished it out…
Good background…
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/must-read-greta-thunberg-pushed-to-prominence-by-antifa-parents-and-soros-connections/
Antonio Gutteres is just as deranged as she is if he thinks she has a message. Is he unbalanced or is he abusing her, a poor child with dysfunctional parents, just to advance his agenda. At the UN you never know!!!
I cringe thinking what this kid’s future will be.
Agreed. There are adults who actually think she knows “science” as one person on Quora replied.
However, I think the worst abusers are the news media who have elevated her and ignore real scientists like Willie Soon, etc.
Dang! My whole ecosystem just collapsed! Gonna hafta make another trip to Ecosystems Are Us now… Wait! Maybe I should consult the nearest science illiterate 16 year old high school dropout first?
Yeah – That’s the ticket!
Anagrams of Greta Thunberg include:
Grunt Hateberg
Green brat thug
Sounds fishy to me, Phil.
Get a life.
Anagrams of Greta Thunberg include:
Bag Green Truth
The Grunge Brat
Dear Greta. Since you don’t do school you missed the part on the scientific method. Here you go. No charge, I’m glad to have been able to help you.
What do you do when you can’t follow the science in detail? This applies to all sciences not just climate but I’ll focus on climate science.
Do we “believe” one group or another? No, belief is for religion not science. Do we go with whatever the majority of scientists say? No, consensus is for politics not science.
So what do we follow? Predictions! The scientific method requires them. If you are not making predictions that can be tested you are NOT doing science. See this 1 minute clip for an explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7YcimsISUk
Get PREDICTIONS with DATES and temperatures attached to them from both the natural cycles and CO2 groups. Then check up to see if their predictions happen. It is easy for anyone to do and kind of fun. Always copy the URL so you can check the wayback machine if they “clean up” their mistakes.
As far as global warming goes, we are at a great juncture, a true fork in the road. The IPCC projects 0.5-1.0 C increase and the natural cycles scientists predict 0.25-1.0 C decrease over the next 20 years. They can’t both be correct but they both could be wrong.
I will make only one prediction. CO2 will continue to increase by 1-2 PPM yearly over the next 20 years. China and India have said so and that is where it is determined.
Honestly, just send CPS on her and arrest her parents. What they’re doing may be legal in Europe with the 16-is-legal bit but in the US it’s felony child abuse.
Read thishttps://standpointmag.co.uk/issues/june-2019/gretas-very-corporate-childrens-crusade/?fbclid=IwAR0EPsvAkNXhVlYrK4PXhpt30EeNhuW6PT1O1oeyGFtjg9drNOFTiwofG_8
And while we are on the topic;
“…or the aspects of equity and climate justice…”
So… equity and climate justice are ALSO major concerns? So you are utterly convinced that we are facing an extinction event, but flag ‘equity’ as also being a major corner stone.
And so says the woman who gets to sail across the oceans in a multi million dollar racing yacht. How many other 16 year old kids in the world get to do that. Equity? HOW DARE YOU!
and;
“… my generation sucking hundreds of billions of tons of your CO2 out of the air with technologies that barely exist.”
Having established that the older generation is Bad, and that it is going to fall on HER generation to save the world using yet to be developed technology, this same Greta also calls for her generation to ‘strike’ from school. Greta is both actively declaring it will need to be her generation that needs to fix the problem, but refusing to allow her generation to prepare for it. HOW DARE YOU!
Checked out the Sun recently? The Sun is emitting less energy these days.
Theories abound, but no explanation predicts mean future solar output.
Ice age, anyone? Maunder Minimum? We need the Sun for Green Energy!
Thunberg for UN Chief. Now!
What a waste!
A line by line rebuttal of a stage performance written by true believers and delivered by a child.
As if there was substance to respond to. More wasted space.
Did I read it? NO!
Am I going to read it? NO!
Do I care? NO!
The world has wasted way to much time and effort on this brat and her handlers already.
We here do not need to follow along.
This software from Tony Heller would certainly help us to quickly check their CAGW data.
Just choose your start date, I wish I had his skills.
https://realclimatescience.com/2019/09/new-video-my-gift-to-climate-alarmists/
Look how bad it is getting in Canada. Three parties are scrambling to see who can make it the worst disaster.
Today:
NDP’s Jagmeet Singh pledges $15B for green jobs, fight against ‘crisis of epic proportion’
How more epic can it get. And the irresponsible media will not question it.
The video of her speech was plastered over the SMH website here in Australia yesterday. Comments were open and after 2000+ posted comments the moderator stated that, in his recollection, the article received the most comments he’d evah seen! He also showed the total number of comments received and simply subtracting comments posted worked out to be about 1700 comments not posted. Many of mine were not posted even though none of them were in breach of SMH’s site policy. It was clear the moderators are deliberately not posting contrary comments keeping article comment threads on “message” especially ones about climate change.
The media are in absolute “Love” with Greta. Article after article praising her every word. Everyone seems to be cooing over her.
you should have read the advertiser online then
heaps of comments and the outright majority were angry and critical and also placed serious questions n rebuttals and they were published;-)) I know cos i threw about 10 in myself to the faithful idiots
I seem to have read her parents names somewheer, and neither of them are called Thunberg – is Thunberg just her stage name?
It’s like they’re NPCs programmed by aliens to prevent human progress.
I have a serious question, how does a 17 year old even get the chance waste time at the UN?
We’re living in a time of mass delusion.
I can relate to Greta..
Growing up in the ’70s, the words of the Climate Alarmists of that time period give me reason to sympathize with her statement, “You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words…”..
Man skeptics play her all wrong.
ya’ll should know that the best way to handle a kid having a tantrum is to walk away. Her level
of anger is un sustainable
attacking a child isn’t the best approach, even when it is well deserved.
psst, she is scolding them, not you. Their problem, not yours.
ignore it.
You keep thinking it’s a game and there are sides. It’s eco politics and media beat up there are about 10-15% of the worlds population that give a toss about this stuff. Despite all the noise for the world emissions have increased and will continue to increase for years to come because the majority really don’t care.
Polticians play to the noise until they learn the hard reality at elections which is why there has been increasing election of right wing governments.
The majority don’t need to play the game or have a strategy, life teaches lessons to the extremists soon enough that what they think and what they believe really doesn’t matter.
How DARE you!
Man skeptics play her all wrong.
That was my first thought:
“A Line-By-Line Response to Greta Thunberg’s UN Speech”
What is up with that?? Why????
You’re right, Steven. She should be ignored, but the press won’t leave her alone.
Mosh, the problem is: the fools at the UN are not ignoring it. And they are the ones who are in cahoots with some of the radical environmentalist groups to try to force everyone else to produce policy solutions that really won’t work.
So given the circumstances, I can ignore the child, but I can’t ignore the after-effects of the child’s temper tantrum speech.
You don’t have kids, do you Steven…..
The best way for a parent to handle a child having a tantrum is to isolate them, eg. “Time Out”. If they pull that crap in a store, you leave immediately with them in tow. No treats. Not toys. No cell phone. No internet. No TV. No wifi. Nada. Sit them in the corner until they are ready to apologize for acting sooo very badly badly. Make sure they understand that emotional irrational tantrums are not acceptable in children… or adults.
Greta says;
“…they also rely on my generation sucking hundreds of billions of tons of your CO2 out of the air…”
I suggest she watches the movie Snowpiercer.
might want to try reading ‘Fallen Angels’ by Dr Jerry Pournelle
Seems as if mass delusion has settled in. Scary times.
I used to assume that an adult wrote her speeches. Now I’m not so sure.
The people who are fawning after her don’t realise she is 16 and the reasoning part of her brain, the frontal lobes, have not matured and won’t for the best part of 10 more years. So, all in all, this is a childish rant. I am sure however, sales of her mother’s book will have advanced a bit.
Im not so sure on that
https://www.sott.net/article/420893-Child-hostage-Greta-Thunberg-caught-in-disintegrating-family-and-devilish-covenant-with-her-mother
Greta Thunberg
“I’d rather report her mother to the police than review her book for the newspaper. It’s horrifying reading,” Danish journalist Mikael Jalving has said of the book “Scenes from the heart” about Swedish teenage climate activist and icon Greta Thunberg, penned by her own mother.
Her mother represented Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest.
US readers may not be familiar with the history and significance (or rather, insignificance) of the Eurovision Song Contest. It was, from the first, a vanity project of the European bureaucratic “elite”. While musicians have certainly benefited from wealthy patrons historically, most of the world has largely considered music to be a creative human endeavor with the good being recognized as such in the market place, and the bad never making it into the history books because it is swiftly rejected. It takes a Soviet-Russia level of politics to believe that something good in music is created by governmental fiat rather than human abilities and desires[*]. A child coming from a family steeped in this kind of thinking is a damaged child, and Thunberg should be viewed in this light.
[* When the exception, ABBA, won the Eurovision song contest, I was not yet a teenager. But at the time I still recognized that they were clearly “cheating”: It was widely accepted that the competition was not supposed to include entrants that were actually likely to be popular with the masses. That was not then, and is not now, how the European Project was supposed to operate. It was more about “creating” something good by sheer force of political will, not about selecting something which was produced spontaneously and found to be good. It is also an insight into what the Brexit vote in the UK was really about.]
Suede: Null point. Sweden: Zero points.
The song contest has always been about politics, so more blatantly obvious as it is today, nothing more, nothing less.
I think one of the best “games” on European TV was “It’s a knock out!”.
That was the domestic qualifiers. It was “Jeux sans frontières” when the Continentals were playing 🙂
It also spawned a great song of the same name by Peter Gabriel (with Kate Bush in the vocals)
Greta and the UN certainly learned that bit off by heart.
This is a child and a very effective weapon for the left. I hope the best for this woman as she matures.
Look at her eyes, her pupils in the photos here. They appear to be dilated but under the bright TV lights it is counter intuitive. Bright TV lights will constrict your pupils under normal circumstances. Is it possible that she has been medicated?
So I suppose Greta giving the good old Chinese, Indians, Indonesians et at a good old tongue-lashing is completely out of the question then, and in their respective countries – just askin’?
She’s unstable, brainwashed, misguided, misinformed, undisciplined, being manipulated, rude, disrespectful, horribly wrong and out of control.
Other than that nice kid?
Getting people to venture outside to participate in the “warming is bad” meme does have it’s challenges in Sweden.
Look at all that global warming on the ground. Is that a jacket made form man-made fibres? Tut tut tut Greta!
She sure says “how dare you” a lot!
How we do it is that we old people are just very daring.
The children of her generation have the highest standard of living in history. Access to food, shelter, healthcare, education, information. All made possible by abundant cheap energy in the form of fossil fuels. Thunberg seems completely oblivious to this.
And for the hundreds of millions who have yet to benefit from the world’s progress, what would be the quickest and most effective way to lift them out of poverty? Yes, greater access to abundant cheap energy. We have seen this happening in China and India, and hopefully soon other still blighted countries.
Thunberg is a child being used in a most cynical way by politically motivated first world crusaders.
I find this speech and its implications grotesque.
Fully agree. Of the 1.2 billion people on Earth who still don’t have electricity in their homes, I wonder how many are supporting her words. Well of course, most of them will never hear them without access to TV, etc.
They will continue to breathe in the fumes from the open fires for cooking and heating, and their children will still not be able to do homework to further their education due to the lack of electric lighting.
Just wondering, Is her level of English proficiency normal for the Swedish?
SR
Well, you are right about one thing. The scientists predictions are indeed wrong. It’s progressing much faster than any of them predicted, because being good scientists, they are quite conservative in their predictions so they can be sure.
I half expected her to hold her breath until she turned bright red while stomping her feet and wringing her hands. Her speech writers didn’t even try to hide the fact that she had speech writers.
It’s possible she will someday understand how much she’s been used as a propaganda piece by people who actually don’t care about her at all because she’s the current expedient tool at hand. If that happens, she’ll realize her life to that point has been a waste and that she was psychologically abused with her parents being the enablers. If she never understands this, it will be an even bigger tragedy for her. I truly pity her for her for the abuse she’s receiving in the service of propaganda.
I feel sorry for her – bad parents, brainwashing, and that.
The only people that have stolen her dreams and childhood are her publicity/marketing team and most shamefully her parents.
When I was insulted a few posts back, being told my logic was not only sophomoric, it was positively Thunbergian, I thought it creative and a bit of a hoot. Now it is dawning on my addled brain that the jab was very unQueensberry. Is this pitiful puppet what I am being compared to? Really? My tender feelings are hurt.
“Children should be seen and not heard.”
What did today’s adult population ever do for today’s young generation?
Absolutely nothing!
Well, except for:
– developing the medicines, health care, food supplies and wealth to provide them with the longest life expectancy in human history
– more democracy across the world than ever before
– more gender equality than ever before
– more LGBT equality and understanding than ever before
– budget flights allowing them to travel the world – several times a year – to fill up their social media accounts with photos and videos
– more education opportunities than ever before
– more protected nature reserves across the world than ever before
Well, apart from all of that, absolutely nothing. We can feel we have failed them.
I always said the U.N. was run by angry, mentally damaged children. I thought I was being metaphorical.
I did think that Rumpelstiltskin (gender fluid these days…..) was only 16…….. She might mature by 17. Oh well, it was only a thought……..
Does Greta ever give real press conferences when scientific questions can be asked? I found a so called press conference in Switzerland in which I learnt she has 2 nice dogs. But I would like to ask her what caused the 130 metre rise in sea level after the last Ice Age. Does she know the sea rose this amount at a rate about 5 times faster than at present for 8000 years. What’s her knowledge of sun spot cycles, precession and Milankovitch cycles. She did say she should be back at school so I agree with her on that account.
Snarly little teeny bopper that. She would have been an outstanding Hitler Youth I imagine.
You are not allowed to criticise Greta in the media. Look what happened to Michael Knowles on Fox News.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/24/fox-news-greta-thunberg-michael-knowles
I hate to say this, but my husband, a maths graduate, heard the speech and was terribly impressed. He does not, of course, believe anything I say on the subject. Greta’s line of oratory does work if only by making people feel guilty for not doing more. It all helps in shifting public opinion towards the alarmists.
I do actually admire her, even though I disagree with her, for her willingness to stand up for something rather than remaining slumped on the sofa with her phone like so many of her age.
If she remained slumped on the sofa with her phone, she would do half as much evil.
Wow! the response is pathetic. Not one actual scientific riposte . No facts. Nothing of worth!
Now this thread has opened up the continued unwarranted abuse of this young person
PATHETIC
Asperger’s does not affect intelligence, it is not a mental illness. Her age group are the ones that will have to deal with what world we leave them. you may want your gas guzzlers, your cheap energy, your freedom to travel as often and far as you desire etc. but you need to realise the consequences of these actions. Resources are not unlimited. Majority of climate scientists agree that we are heading for problems. who should we listen to bloggers or scientific majority?
some choice comments that should cause this thread to be closed –
She would have been an outstanding Hitler Youth
I always said the U.N. was run by angry, mentally damaged children.
I feel sorry for her – bad parents, brainwashing, and that
She’s unstable, brainwashed, misguided, misinformed, undisciplined, being manipulated, rude, disrespectful, horribly wrong and out of control.
The speech is nothing but the ranting and raving of a disturbed and abused child.
Fools, charlatans, and politicians have hired a child of diminished capacity to lead them
It’s all very likely true.
Wow…You just made me wanna go fire up the 1000HP ’70 Camaro.
I bet I can get your Saint Greta to smile if I take her for a hot-lap!
Link the scientific evidence that support any of her limited scientific quotes. If it were apparently viewed by the scientific majority then they shouldn’t be hard to find? Science has always been about observations and supporting the hypothesis, never about majority views.
The 50% reduction of CO2 emissions keeping under 1.5c are based on climate models so are not evidence and just guesses not even based on observations.
Continuing the way the planet has been warming in the troposphere, temperatures will be under 1.5c/per century even if humans do nothing.
That does not justify to take urgent climate action even if it was little more, so bringing in alternative energy sources should be at the right time and pace without doing huge damage to people’s lifestyles.
“scientific majority” – thanks’, I’v added it to my list of favorite oxymorons.
Good on you ghalfrunt, I think you are absolutely right.
My, what an aspiring little tyrant you are, ghalfrunt.
Being a Brit, I am reminded of a character in the ‘Just William’ books by Richmal Crompton which I devoured avidly as a boy…
‘William’ and his gang were always getting into scrapes of one sort or another – and there was this rather posh little girl who hung out with this motley crew, called Violet Elizabeth Bott..
Her ‘go to’ stance if she didn’t get her way, was to say:
‘I’m going to thcream and thcream until I’m thick….’
Remind you of anyone..?
According to Alan K Welch above – apparently Greta has ‘two nice dogs’..
Has no-one explained to her that keeping ONE dog – never mind two – due to their meat-rich diet – is equivalent to running two Toyota Landcruisers..?
So – Greta Thunberg runs FOUR Toyota Landcruisers – bit inconvenient, wouldn’t you say..?
A good piece but a bit disingenuous in repeatedly characterizing “…[solutions] still nowhere in sight” as if there was no answer proposed or available. It’s not a big leap to interpret “nowhere in sight” as referring to actions to date, not options available. There is no shortage of bad ideas to “solve” the climate “problem”. Greta’s handlers are just clever enough to not have her mention any specifics, to avoid alienating any supporters, who might be bent on specific solutions or scared off by socialist underpinnings.
Does anyone know who was in the audience?? in the versions I have watched, one gets no idea of the size of the room or the audience. i googled the Summit which is a three day event and for which individuals could sign up. Were there ANY world leaders in the room
Here’s a tuff question for Greta: Should Germany re-start its idled nuclear power plants and shut down its new brown coal power plants?
Follow-up question: Should Japan do likewise?
Excuse me, but she’s Saint Thunderbum , not “Ms”. The Ms moniker is reserved for young adult females that are embarrassed about not being married & don’t want to be called Miss anymore.
Sorry about being so pedantic.
Am I the only one that recognises eco zealot Greta has psychosis?
Wait, I thought this was the transcript of her speech:
“I hate you! I’ll never speak to you again!”
(sound of bedroom door slamming, followed by sound of child sobbing on bed)
From now on, the picture of the angry teenager at the top of this post will forever be the most apt symbol representing Warmunism, and there’s nothing the climastrologists can do about it.
Little Greta’s childhood and dreams were stolen by the climate scaremongers who taught her to fear the future. She’s right that she should be in school, learning about photosynthesis in high school biology class, by which plants pull CO2 out of the air, water out of the ground, and energy from the sun to make sugars that feed all the animals and people of the world. She might learn that plants grow faster with more CO2 in the air, meaning that in a high-CO2 future the Earth will be greener and more fertile than it is now.
Little Greta thinks that there is some limit or quota on how much more CO2 can be emitted before some catastrophe occurs. If she studied some physics and chemistry, and did a mass balance on the atmosphere, she would discover that CO2 concentrations in the air are only rising half as fast as would be predicted if all human CO2 emissions remained in the atmosphere. There are already natural processes “sucking” CO2 out of the air, half of total human emissions.
According to Le Chatelier’s Principle, a chemical reaction speeds up if the concentration of a reactant increases. This means that any reaction that removes CO2 from the air will speed up if the CO2 concentration increases, so eventually the CO2 removal rate will catch up to the emission rate, and the CO2 concentration will level off, at a level which promotes rapid plant growth and high crop yields.
Little Greta, why would you be afraid of this?
first line and , my opinion, it is important WE are watching YOU…
who is WE ?who is YOU??
some applauded in the room…they felt belonging to what group? THEM or US?
As everyone else, Greta cannot find hope and peace in this world. But she can find hope and absolute peace now thru Christ Jesus.
If one of my children ever talked like that, they’d be rowing home!
For the nerds:
peak GRETA occurred at 7AM 24 sep and we are now already at 50% peak. It is predicted that this phenomenon will show a rapid decline going back to background noise disturbance in a few days.
Longer term predictions are more difficult, but it is currently forecast that we will not see much activity beyond the start of 2020.
Ja. Ja.
I have read it all before
here is my response
http://breadonthewater.co.za/2019/09/22/revisiting-the-87-year-gleissberg-solar-cycle/
but I gather most of you donot get it.
Letr me know if you do?
Ja. Ja.
I have read it all before
here is my response
http://breadonthewater.co.za/2019/09/22/revisiting-the-87-year-gleissberg-solar-cycle/
but I gather most of you donot get it.
Let me know if you do?
I truly feel sorry for Greta. The fascists have already stolen her childhood such that she cannot enjoy a single day of her life while she worries about her future.
With all due respect… and appreciation for the effort put in this post here, and the effort shown in the most of comments, still from my point of view this stands as a clear case of showing the proper lack of getting the point and entirely missing it.
First, regardless of how “hot” or direct the speech, I fail to see or detect any judgmental or
prejudice position there, where in contrary, lots of it I see here, in consideration of that speech… what or why could that be?!!
Second, even when that speech, very dense, highly concentrated and very “heavy”, in the consideration of the issue and the place, seems to me to be quite balanced in it’s context and subject matter.
I think, and hopefully I am not wrong in this, that if carefully “seen”, heard, and carefully considered, without prejudice, then
it actually may taken as pointing the finger clearly at the madness of the climate political crisis.
The UN chart, as far as I can tell does not include, not as yet at least,
“The eternal salvation of the World or the Planet, or propagation toward some phony thing like Eternal economical growth”.
Any platform or actions, that diverges, obstructs or considerably misdirects the UN from discharging the duty as per the merit of it’s charter, must not be, or must be abandoned, as else further persistence in that direction, renders UN as a phony institution and well within the consideration of the clause of “betrayal”, quite useless and with no merit.
Oh, well, I just maybe happen to be wrong with this, but no harm there I think.
cheers
A fun read. I thought of doing something similar but I could not have done it as well as this response. Enjoy …
She’s fighting a holy war as useless and idiotic as all the others in history.
If Greta Thunberg is 16 now, in a short time, she will be 18, which will mean the transition to adulthood, and she has nothing to show for her life other than reading a scold to people at the UN. I see no abstract ideas or concrete solutions in her speech. It’s just a scold – how DARE you! – and nothing else. Okay, she got a chance to vent in public and now what?
I doubt that she has any real-world knowledge of anything in the natural world, period, whether we’re speaking of biologicals or the weather or anything else. It is obvious from her prepared speech that she only “knows” about a very limited part of the planet and certainly has no real idea how it functions. She comes off as just literate, but there are some indications that she does not really understand what she’s talking about. And reading a scold at a group of people gathered to hear her “message” – well, that’s not particularly effective with me or with most of the reasoning adults I know.
There is nothing – zero, zip, nada – in that prepared speech that is definitive or addresses real-world concerns such as wildlife habitat being appropriated for housing or industrial use when it isn’t necessary to do so, and other properties could be put to that kind of use. Doing that leaves the wildlife areas alone.
There is no substance at all to her speech. It is just a tantrum in writing, an angry spat at the world in general, with no real substance to it, the use of a collection of buzzwords and catch phrases, and clearly indicates a complete lack of understanding of environmental sciences, period.
She’ll be an adult in a short time. Her “charms”, if she ever had them, are wearing off. At some point, her lack of ability to function in a normal way will bring an end to this business. I would be more impressed if she had kept her temper under control, but she does not know how to do that, which is not uncommon in people with Asperger’s. Therefore, when she really throws a screaming fit in public, she will lose her audience completely.
Her parents should be taken to task for what they’ve allowed to happen with her. When they’re gone, she will be lost. I doubt that she can function without them.
LOL. Sooo cruel… But I think you got a couple of things wrong, she may be young, and ignorant, but I don’t think she’ll ever be a “lady”. And I doubt very much that she’ll take your advice to become a scientist.
But while I was guffawing shamelessly (happens so seldom in our current politically correct era), I was sobered by the thought of so many thousands of young marching morons with evidently no sense of humour.
So thanks for a good laugh. Made me think of the song ” Short People are BAD”. It’s probably lucky that I can’t remember the lyrics or the show it was in, except that it was sung by a very short balding black guy, because the way things are going, singing a song like that (or even having a copy) may soon get you prison or lynched.
Short People by Randy Newman
Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
To live
They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin’ great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet
Well, I don’t want no short people
Don’t want no short people
Don’t want no short people
Round here
Short people are just the same
As you and I
(A fool such as I)
All men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It’s a wonderful world)
Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
To love
They got little baby legs
And they stand so low
You got to pick ’em up
Just to say hello
They got little cars
That got beep, beep, beep
They got little voices
Goin’ peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They’re gonna get you every time
Well, I don’t want no short people
Don’t want no short people
Don’t want no short people
‘Round here
Thanks Weylan.
Got to find the music now, and remember not to wear “black face”.
Am still trying to remember where I saw it performed. Maybe Ally McBeal?
An Hysteric whipping up mass hysteria
These two links go a long way to explaining the “sudden” emergence of Greta and her fame.
The first explains why Greta, due to her mental disorders, made the perfect candidate for the face of their Climate Alarmism efforts. The second explains The Plan and how they implemented it.
Thread offers devastating insight into why the Left’s weaponization of Greta Thunberg is particularly egregious
http://bit.ly/2mWK86v
The Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg – for Consent: The Political Economy of the Non-Profit Industrial Complex [ACT I] –
http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2019/01/17/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-for-consent-the-political-economy-of-the-non-profit-industrial-complex/
The comment section of the 2nd linked article is completely filled with nutty environmentalist comments.
In just 10 to 15 years she could be in a position where she is attacked by the new generation of young peoble.
Excuse me oh short sighted one. But you have some major problems with your assumptions. First problem is that you are being fed a line of garbage. CO2 is what plants use for food. During the Pliocene Era, which preceded our life cycle, the earth was actually cooling. This was after the dinosaurs ruled the land, when it was a lot hotter. Back then, CO2 levels were about 20 time higher than they are presently. So, you as well as most of the people who are advising you, are completely WRONG. Sorry, that’s just the way it is.
Wayne- keep taking the brawndo – its what plants crave – it has electrolytes.
‘She should be getting treatment’: Leading Australian psychologist says he’s worried about the mental well-being of ‘entitled’ autistic climate change poster girl Greta Thunberg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7501829/Psychologist-says-hes-worried-mental-wellbeing-climate-change-activist-Greta-Thunberg.html
This calls to mind a book covering the Cultural Revolution in China called “The white Swan” or somesuch (I forget).
Chairman Mao , with his Little Red Book galvanised the students and children to call to task their teachers and parents who failed to toe the communist line. Tales of extraordinary humiliations and consequences dealt out to these teachers and professors were described where children of Greta’s ilk formed disciplinary committees armed with the sanction of this Red Book.
Well worth a read the next time the Extinction Rebellion takes to the streets particularly if you happen to be a teacher. There but for ——?
It’s Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China, by Jung Chang. Who also wrote Mao: The Unknown Story and others about what China (and its vaunted Red leaders) was really like.
aspects of equity and climate justice
And that right there makes all of her scientific-sounding blather meaningless. Even if she were right about the causes of any global warming and the effects of it (CO2 budget? *eyeroll* ), that right there is the tell – it’s all about marxism and destroying western civilization.
And, I don’t take my direction in life – scientific or otherwise – from a 16yo. Not ever. But especially not when it’s as ill-informed and immature as that coming from Mz Greta.
(This is ~exactly~ why an entire era was defined by “Children should be seen and not heard.”)
TO: JACQUES VOORHEES … Reply to Line by line response to Greta Thunberg UN speech:
YOUNG GRETA THUNBERG FROM SWEDEN HAS SHOWN GREAT COURAGE IN FOLLOWING HER CONVICTIONS, BOTH BY THE WAY SHE LIVES HER LIFE (NO MEAT) AND NOW WITH THIS EXCURSION SCROSS THE ATLANTIC IN AN 18M SOLAR POWERED YACHT TO ADDRESS A WORLD SUMMIT ON CLIMATE CHANGE
WAS HER U.N. SPEECH EMOTIONAL & DRAMATIC? … ABSOLUTELY … BUT IF WE OBSEVE THAT GRETA IS JUST “THE MESSENGER” AND A TEENAGER, OF COURSE HER DELIVERY IS GOING TO BE EMOTIONAL WHEN ITS SOMETHING SHE FEELS SO VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT … AND BEING PASSIONATE IS BEING HUMAN, NOT A SIGN OF MENTAL ILLNESS AS SOME WOULD FALSELY CLAIM
AND FURTHER IF WE OBSERVE THE “MESSAGE” WRITTEN ON THE HULL OF HER VESSEL MALIZIA II, WE WILL ALL CONTINUE TO WISE-UP AND GET…
“UNITED BEHIND THE SCIENCE”
IMAGINE YOU MAY HAVE NO ENVIRONMENT SCIENCE EDUCATION OR DEGREES, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE GEOLOGY & DIAMOND MINING, AND IF THAT’s WHAT YOU DO BEST, FOR PITY SAKE GET BACK TO IT BECAUSE YOUR RESPONSES TO GRETA’s SPEECH SADLY REVEAL THAT YOU MAY WELL BE A NUMB SCULL …sorry
MW … Sydney … 27/9/19
FYI…most people will not read an all caps yelling comment.
And just about everyone will decide it is very annoying without even reading it.
Lovely Greta Climate maid
where would we be without you ?
Had a posse cross her shoulder
made her look so much older .
Lovely Greta climate made
Give us a pout and jet your gang away .
She’s 16-year-old and obviously raised with Astrid Lindgren –
https://www.google.com/search?q=astrid+children%27s+author&oq=Astrid+the+children+&aqs=chrome.
What to expect from children growing up with Astrid Lindgren’s works.
Sure ALL European children, with that activism aims, were grown up with the works of Astrid Lindgren.
Reading Astrid Lindgrens books about “Pippilotta Viktualia Rullgardina Krusmynta Efraimsdotter Långstrump” it’s absolutely understandable
– this children have to be that way.
– they’ll never be accessible to arguments.
– they’ll never get “reeducated”.
My country had a climate strike on Friday last. After reading of an experiment in America I thought I would give it a go.
I put on a nice suit and tie, doctored up some research papers and went out in to the streets to our high school climate activists. Approaching groups of kids I told them I was a research scientist who had found a dangerous compound that was reaching dangerous levels in our atmosphere, it was being found in our water-ways and seas, getting in and on fruit and vegetables and even in our drinking water.
On the pretext that I had put my concerns to government bodies and put my research papers on the internet I was getting very little response to my campaign to raise awareness.
My reason for talking to them was to see if they could start a social media campaign and raise awareness with local politicians and government to eliminate or reduce the production of Di hydrogen Monoxide.
Our little climate activists were all for it if was going to help the environment and preserve the world for future generations.
The were somewhat put out when I wrote down the chemical compound for them H2O
The general consensus was I had lied them and used misleading facts to fool them. I explained to them that they had already been lied to and misleading facts had been used to perpetuate the myth of global warming and went on to show them the facts and figures on global warming.
The consensus was I was full of it, a global warmer denier and what their teachers were teaching and the media reporting was true.
It was after this that I realized we had little hope when the education system, the media, and little Greta hogging the world stage were brainwashing our kids.
Good effort John.
Me thinks that an appropriate response to Saint Greta would be to present a similar young person to proclaim the other side of the argument to counter the climate cult …
MG
Your response to this brave young lady’s outpouring of concern, is for lack of a better summation, rubbish. Even if climate change is partly a natural cyclical phenomenon, and even if the anthropomorphic contributions to climate change greenhouse gas production would not change the natural cycles, Ms. Thunberg’s contribution to global discourse is significant. And that in itself, regardless of who writes her speeches, or who handles her public persona, is commendable. Of course your commentary is ‘worthless’, but hers is not. She does tell these UN folk something they need to hear. She is courageous to speak to power like that, and she shows more backbone, and moral fiber than anyone surrounding the populist leaders of the world, of which the most ignorant and dangerous by far is D.Trump. Personally, I feel that the world’s leadership is deeply misguided, and within their echo chambers of ignorance, totally devoid of the political will to break free of that reality. They are not excited by solutions, and they do not create the right environment for exploring all the options. The are failed leaders. And they are as Ms. Thunberg states, ‘immature in that they can not evolve their ideologies, and ethos, to solve these pressing world issues, All they know to do, is to spout rhetoric and wash over their incompetence, with cyclical empty promises, and repeated plays of strategy and marketing to make them look as good to their constituents, as possible. They are NOT true leaders. If they were, they would encourage legislation which changes building codes, changes industrial design parameters, changes ways and methods, and means of critical systems for energy, production, for food production, for waste management, for transportation etc. They would seriously look at alternative energy, alternative design, and alternatives to everything that is in fact the problem. Climate change my dear, is most greatly due to a hundreds of years of massive global deforestation, and our problems on earth will be pollution, and a lack of balance in the systems, and ecological collapse, and resultant epidemics, and other threats to our health and well being. Climate change may lead to a runaway greenhouse effect like the one that left Venus hotter than hell, and this is still a very real possibility for Earth, unfortunately. However, climate change is a factor of livability, and our so called leaders, who have consistently failed to create real shifts in our thinking, have also become so corrupt, along with the big industries and big business and legacy that controls them, they have all failed together, and if it takes a seventeen year old to say it is so, so mote it be, It is so, and she said far better than you or I ever could. This article and the way you wrote it, is a shame to your site. Whatsupwiththat. I applaud the efforts of any and every one who stands for what is right, and I see much of it, in the message Greta Thunberg put forth. There is truth in it, and you failed to see that truth, and you too added to the wrong perspective with your ignorance. It is such ignorance that is the enemy of all that could be, for the betterment of humanity and the sancity of this great living planet.
greta thunberg is a good social activists .she are trying to convey about future world. We will respect her intention and also proud about our greta thunberg.