Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Pope Francis has demanded governments of the world punish the poor with regressive carbon pricing, to prevent an allegedly imminent anthropogenic climate catastrophe.
Pope to oil execs: We don’t ‘have the luxury’ to wait to fight climate change
Inés San MartínJun 14, 2019
ROME – Speaking to oil company executives, Pope Francis on Friday said that climate change “threatens the very future” of humanity, adding that the “doomsday predictions” can no longer be met with disdain.
“Time is running out!” Francis said. “Deliberations must go beyond mere exploration of what can be done, and concentrate on what needs to be done. We do not have the luxury of waiting for others to step forward, or of prioritizing short-term economic benefits.”
“The climate crisis requires our decisive action, here and now and the Church is fully committed to playing her part,” he said.
…“Such a transition involves managing the social and employment impact of the move to a low-carbon society,” Francis said. “If managed well, this transition can generate new jobs, reduce inequality and improve the quality of life for those affected by climate change.”
On carbon pricing, the pontiff said that humanity is called to use natural resources “wisely,” and their use can only be considered ethical when the economic and social costs of using them are transparently acknowledged and “are fully borne by those who incur them, rather than by other people or future generations.”
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Read more: https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/06/14/pope-to-oil-execs-we-dont-have-the-luxury-to-wait-to-fight-climate-change/
The evidence that cheap energy creates more economic opportunity than renewable energy is overwhelming.
Compare the moribund economic performance of Europe with the ongoing explosion of wealth and opportunity in the USA. While I am not denying the value of other Trump policies, there is no doubt that a significant factor in the ongoing boom in the USA is the shale gas revolution which started under President Obama, and President Trump’s efforts to keep it going, Trump’s efforts to eliminate regulatory obstacles to cheaper energy.
If a “managed” transition to renewables actually was a national economic opportunity, there would be no need for carbon taxes or other interventions, people would embrace renewables of their own free will. Renewable Europe would be the global economic leader, not the USA.
That “short term economic opportunity” his holiness sneered at has transformed lives. People in the USA who would otherwise have only known grinding poverty and want now have jobs, they now have real hope for a better future, better access to healthcare, and better educational opportunities for their kids. When oil, gas and coal finally run their course, decades or more likely centuries from now, the good all that “short term” money has done will remain.
Pope Francis’ profound economic, political and scientific ignorance on climate issues, and his apparent contempt for economic opportunities, short term or not, in my opinion has real potential to cause harm. For shame, Pope Francis.
Catholicism (or any other religion is the moral equivalent of stealing hubcaps
Who buys second hand hubcaps? People who have had their hubcaps stolen. The thief has created the perfect market where supply and demand are exactly in balance.
So also in rome First the priest gives you guilt – for original sin or some other trumped up charge . Then he gives you forgiveness. Again the perfect market but there is an admin fee for all the gold chalices cardinals palaces and idle blingy frippery that Jesus Christ woud have lambasted to hel; if he were around. So keep up the good work papa Frankie
Pope Francis needs to go to Confession.
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The Church of Rome has some internal housekeeping to do before lecturing others. Cleansing themselves of pederasts should be their priority.
Perhaps the Gas and Oil companies could have their distributors cut off all churches and inform them that that is the start of zero carbon… Enjoy
Perhaps it is time for another Theses of Disputation to be nailed on the Vatican’s door. Not that the first one helped much. Maybe just dumb it down a little, like don’t love money, and don’t join the side that wants to rule all of mankind.
The pope says “the world has accepted a “cheerful recklessness” in its approach to the issue, lacking the will to change habits for the good of the Earth.” He doesn’t mention the cheerful recklessness in climate science.
I’m a Christian and it’s a fact that Jesus had no time for the Church authorities of his day on account of they glorified themselves, misled the people and exploited the poor. The Pope has these attributes in common with the High priests of the Climate Change Religion.
“Massive electrical failure cuts power to Argentina and Uruguay”
https://www.foxnews.com/world/massive-electrical-failure-cuts-power-to-argentina-and-uruguay
“How private investment is powering Argentina’s renewable energy revolution”
https://www.power-technology.com/features/argentinas-renewable-energy-revolution/
“climate change “threatens the very future” of humanity,”
What happened to the company line that Jesus Saves?
[which I believe btw]
Tell you what Frank, I’ll agree to pay lip service to your demands on carbon (dioxide) trading scams when you’ve listened to my demands to tackle child molestation in the church, sound fair?
And on;
“humanity is called to use natural resources “wisely,” and their use can only be considered ethical when the economic and social costs of using them are transparently acknowledged and “are fully borne by those who incur them, rather than by other people or future generations.”
How about you set an example by transparently acknowledging the economic and social costs of the plunder of natural resources (like silver and slaves) during conquests and see to it that those costs are borne by your charitable organistion by way of reparations to the future generations of Aztecs, Incas, et al?
Geriatric, dress wearing hypocrite.
I wonder, does the insatiable pope have hairy palms or lightning burns to go with the partial blindness that allegedly goes with being a rod walloper?
What a way to end a sunday; with a bag of boiled urine.
Notice there is no mention of the benefits of natural resource development?
“Is the Pope Catholic?” used to be a rhetorical question. The honest answer now is “No, he’s a Marxist”.
^^^^ in a nutshell ! ^^^^
Not my Pope.
Pope Ferancis is as ignorant of science as he is about Muslims. Fortunately, we have now moved on from the Middle Ages and do not have to listen to him.
Politics AND religion all in one post.
Not sure whether to thrust or parry.
Pot must be legal in the Vatican.
Stay in your church, until the muslims tear it down, and pray for understanding!!
a known socialists acts like a socialist.
news reel at 11.
The Pope is at least being intellectually consistent. The people whom I disrespect are the people who are not creationist and yet have a creationist world view. I also disrespect people who get all moral and want other people to ‘do the right thing’ even though ‘the right thing’ is clearly harmful when they don’t believe in a God who will reward the people who obeyed these high moral rules or make it up to the people who were harmed by the people who obeyed the rules.
Always a loop hole.
Apparently the Pope is unfamiliar with church eschatology. In the breaking of the third seal which brings Scarcity on the Earth, we read about how things will be expensive until we reach Revelation 6:6 “… and do not harm the oil and the wine.”
So when he shouts out “Time is running out” he is taking on the position of modern day Old Testament Prophet (which according to Scripture, when his proclamation is not true, he is to be ignored and treated forevermore as a false prophet) and thus is making an End of Days statement, which in this case, is not supplemental, but contrary to Scripture.
He is an anti-Pope. A fraud.
Well, he likely worked with the CIA in Argentina. They finally got someone inside the Vatican
For the best of me, I can not see anything wrong with what papa Francis has said, as for as much as in consideration of this post… have not read the rest, not followed the link. (maybe something there?!
Francis even uses the term climate crisis,
not climate change or Global warming, the official IPCC terms… for some reason there!
Sorry can’t see any thing that seem wrong there.
Mostly it can be considered in principle, no any particulars much there I can see, to argue against.
If there is no particulars, there can not be much arguing against or about, just a consideration in principle,
I think.
cheers
whiten, are you on something?
Dave
Most probably Dave…I am on something.
I am subject to an understanding condition, Dave…which does not mean I am or could be right by default,
but you see according to it, I am bound to consider that papa Francis has to be considered as
a friend, by me as per my understanding, as the given info in this post.
I am very sure, that you not only fail to comprehend it, but you will not even understand it in the least…no worries or blame there, just as it is, as far as I can tell.
Dave, as the saying goes, you see what you want to see, not what actually is there.
Carbon pricing is a very strange thing, great potential there, for good or for bad.
What I read here points out that Francis is pointing out, in a very complex way the potential towards the good, to Oil companies and corporations, the ones that have no much problem to consider it, in their internal affairs…
Carbon pricing done and managed well, offers the best easier structure of validation of work value, and of the state of a business model…free of the messy validation factor of profiting…
Not expecting you to understand this as put… but that is how I see it…sorry Dave.
Let me repeat it, as it stand for the info here, I am not only in agreement with papa Francis,
but also got to consider the papa as a friend…maybe crazy or silly to you,
but it is as it stands as far as I can tell.
Confusing, yes, very much so, and very much open to judgement…
but that how it is… Dave.
cheerio
Well, whiten, your friend has made the same fundamental error made by many social activists, politicians and bureaucrats: Governments can build and operate a business model better than that of individuals’ producing products and services while expecting a profit. They mistake the need for governments to equally apply laws for the need for governments to ensure equal outcomes for all; social justice, not individual justice.
One need only look at the failures (treasures wasted, people killed) over the past 100 years or so of the social justice countries such as the old Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, various Arab States, ad nausea to see the ultimate evil of social justice notions. Without individual justice there are only various levels of repression. Free stuff sounds good, that is until the Commissar shows up at your door to enforce conformance to arbitrary rules.
Your friend lives a cloistered life, similar to those in academia and government bureaucracies. They are isolated from the realities of having to produce products and services, at a profit, to satisfy the needs and wants of others. Without profit to individuals, nothing happens; the world stagnates and people starve.
Your “Carbon pricing done and managed well, offers the best easier structure of validation of work value, and of the state of a business model…free of the messy validation factor of profiting…” is nonsense on its face:
1) It requires that carbon (CO2) pricing schemes are actually “done and managed well” across the entire globe. Good luck in getting any sovereign nation to give a supranational agency that kind of power. Even if one could create such an agency, it would be subjected to massive political interference because of its ability to confer significant business advantages to the different countries.
2) The imposition of arbitrary costs cannot provide a rational “validation of work value.” Validation of work value is a political construct and fails if it is dissociated from what people are willing to pay for a product or service. Forcing people to pay more does not validate the value of the work required to produce the product or service. Additionally, businesses cannot operate without profit; it is the only measure of objective value, free of political manipulation.
Please do not let your good feelings towards a friend cloud your judgement concerning an important topic such as the rational workings of an economy. I can address facts, reasoning and conclusions, not feelings.
I think it would help if he stopped telling 3rd world poverty stricken Christians to have babies the planet can ill afford and to use contraceptives instead.
If we could only leave moral obligations to the church and allow everyone to make their choice but keep it out of government we could coexist nicely. Oh stop, isn’t that what the Constitution says?
“…and improve the quality of life for those affected by climate change.”
For those affected? I thought climate change was a global emergency. Doesn’t that include everyone on Earth?
Pope Francis on Friday said –
“Time is running out! reduce inequality and improve the quality of life”
As the pope is is a leader who we should emulate to be closer to god….
therefore WE must all attain the same carbon footprint as the pope.
I’m up for that ! ( do we get to wear silk slippers as well ? )
Put out the fire in that chimney though.
The pope that represents the the same organization that employed the world’s best torturers to “encourage” belief. It’s no wonder- AGW scam is exactly the same as the old church tenets, based on lies “blind faith” and brutal enforcement thereof.