Lessons from the failure of the climate change crusade

By Larry Kummer. From the Fabius Maximus website.

Summary: Despite thirty years of efforts by most of the elite institutions of America, US governments have done little to fight climate change. While a bout of awful weather might panic America into enacting activists’ wish list, as of today this is one of the great political failures of modern American history. It is rich with lessons for when scientists warn of the next disaster. The 21st century will give us more such challenges. Let’s try to do better.

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The puzzle of the climate change crusade

Since James Hansen brought global warming to the headlines in his 1989 Senate testimony, scientists working for aggressive public policy action have had almost every advantage. They have PR agencies (e.g., the expensive propaganda video by 10:10). They have most of America’s elite institutions supporting them, including government agencies, the news media, academia, foundations, even funding from the energy companies. The majority of scientists in all fields support the program.

The other side, “skeptics”, have some funding from energy companies and conservative groups, with the heavy lifting being done by a small number of scientists and meteorologists, plus volunteer amateurs.

What the Soviet military called the correlation of forces overwhelmingly favored those wanting action. Public policy in America and the West should have gone green many years ago. But America’s governments have done little. Climate change ranks at the bottom of most surveys of what Americans’ see as our greatest challenges? (CEOs, too.) In November, Washington voters decisively defeated an ambitious proposal to fight climate change.

And not just in the USA. Climate change policy toppled Australia’s government. The Yellow Vest protests in France are the death knell for large-scale action in France. What went wrong?

The narrative gives answers

The usual answers use the information deficit model, in which the public’s skepticism about the need for radical action results from a lack of information. Thirty years of providing information at increasing volume and intensity has accomplished nothing. Pouring more water on a rock does not make it wetter.

“Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results.”
— Ancient adage of Alcoholics Anonymous. More about that here.

Others give more complex explanations, such as “Between conflation and denial – the politics of climate expertise in Australia” by Peter Tangney in the Australian Journal of Political Science.

“This paper describes an ongoing tension between alternative uses of expert knowledge that unwittingly combines facts with values in ways that inflame polarised climate change debate. Climate politics indicates a need for experts to disentangle disputed facts from identity-defining group commitments.” {See Curry’s article for more about this paper.}

There are simpler and more powerful explanations for the campaign’s failure. Lessons giving us useful lessons for dealing with future threats.


Lessons learned

Lesson #1: Standards are high for those sounding the alarm

“Caesar’s wife must be above suspicion.”
— A harsh but operationally accurate Roman proverb.

We have seen this played out many times in books and films since the publication of When Worlds Collide in 1932. A group of scientists see a threat. They go to America’s (or the world’s) leaders and state their case, presenting the data for others to examine and answering questions. There are two levels to this process.

First, the basis for the warnings must be evaluated by an interdisciplinary team of experts outside the community sounding the alarm. Climate models are the core of the warning about climate change. They have never been so examined. Perhaps we can end the climate policy wars by a test of the models. Whatever the costs of such reviews and tests, they would be trivial compared to the need to establish public confidence in these models.

Second, questions from the public must be answered. Of course, such warnings are greeted with skepticism. That is natural given the extraordinary nature of the threat and vast commitment of resources needed to fight it. Of course, many of the questions will be foolish or ignorant. Nevertheless, they all must be answered, with the supporting data made publicly available. Whatever the cost of doing so, it is trivial compared to the need.

Scientists seeking to save the world should never say things like this…

“In response to a request for supporting data, Philip Jones, a prominent researcher {U of East Anglia} said ‘We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it?’”

– From the testimony of Stephen McIntyre before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce (the July 2006 hearings which produced the Wegman Report). Jones has not publicly denied this.

Scientists seeking to save the world should not destroy key records, which are required to be kept and made public. They should not force people to file Freedom of Information requests to get key information. And the response to FOIs should never be like this…

“The {climategate} emails reveal repeated and systematic attempts by him and his colleagues to block FOI requests from climate sceptics who wanted access to emails, documents and data. These moves were not only contrary to the spirit of scientific openness, but according to the government body that administers the FOI act were ‘not dealt with as they should have been under the legislation.’” {The Guardian.}

Steve McIntyre has documented the defensive and self-defeating efforts of climate scientists to keep vital information secret, often violating the disclosure policies of journals, universities, and government funding agencies. To many laypeople these actions by scientists scream “something wrong”.

Yet these were common behaviors by climate scientists to requests for information by both scientists and amateurs. This kind of behavior, more than anything else, provoked skepticism. Rightly or not, this lack of transparency suggested that the scientists sounding the alarm were hiding something.

The burden of proof rests on those warning the world about a danger requiring trillions of dollars to mitigate, and perhaps drastic revisions to – or even abandoning – capitalism (as in Naomi Klein’s This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. The Climate and “In Fiery Speeches, {Pope} Francis Excoriates Global Capitalism“).

Lesson #2: don’t get tied to activists

Activists latch onto threats for their own purposes. They exaggerate threats, attack those asking questions, and poison the debate. Scientists who treat them as allies must remember the ancient rule that “silence means assent.” Failure to speak when activists misrepresent the science discredits both groups.

For a sad example, look at “the pause.” Starting in 2006 climate scientists noticed a slowing in the rate of atmospheric warming. By 2009 there were peer-reviewed papers about it (e.g., in GRL), and it was an active focus of research (see links to these 29 papers). In 2013 the UK Met Office published a series of papers about the pause, which shifted the frontier of climate science from discussion about the existence of the “pause” to its causes (see links to these 38 papers). Some scientists gave forecasts of its duration (see links to 17 forecasts) – since a pause is, by definition, temporary.

During this period activists wrote scores, or hundreds, of articles not only denying that there was a pause in warming – but mocking as “deniers” people citing the literature about it. For example, see Phil Plait’s articles at Slate here and here. The leaders of climate science remained silent. Even those writing papers about the pause remained silent while activists ignored their work.

While an impressive display of climate scientists’ message discipline, it blasted away their credibility for those who saw the science behind the curtain of propaganda.

Learn from mistakes

Conclusions

“The time for debate has ended”
Marcia McNutt (then editor-in-Chief of Science and now President of the NAS) in “The beyond-two-degree inferno“, an editorial in Science, 3 July 2015.

I agree with McNutt: the public policy debate has ended. A critical mass of the US public has lost confidence in climate science as an institution (i.e., rejecting its warnings). As a result, the US probably will take no substantial steps to prepare for possible future climate change, not even preparing for re-occurrence of past extreme weather. The weather will determine how policy evolves, and eventually prove which side was right.

All that remains is to discuss the lessons we can learn from this debacle so that we can do better in the future. More challenges lie ahead in which we will need scientists to evaluate risks and find the best responses. Let’s hope we do better next time.

For More Information

For more information about this vital issue see the keys to understanding climate change and these posts about ways to end the climate wars…

  1. Important: climate scientists can restart the climate change debate – & win.
  2. Thomas Kuhn tells us what we need to know about climate science.
  3. Daniel Davies’ insights about predictions can unlock the climate change debate.
  4. Karl Popper explains how to open the deadlocked climate policy debate.
  5. Paul Krugman talks about economics. Climate scientists can learn from his insights.
  6. Milton Friedman’s advice about restarting the climate policy debate.
  7. A candid climate scientist explains how to fix the debate.
  8. Roger Pielke Jr.: climate science is a grab for power.

 

 

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Carbon500
December 14, 2018 9:52 am

When Al Gore’s book came out, I immediately realised what a slick piece of propaganda it was.
Thankfully, hot on its heels in my city bookshop appeared Professor Robert Carter’s ‘Climate – the Counter Consensus’ and Professor Ian Plimer’s ‘Heaven and Earth’, along with Emeritus Professor S.Fred Singer and Dennis T. Avery’s ‘Unstoppable Global Warming – Every 1500 Years.’
Let’s not forget the much-needed (and timely) valuable contribution made by these authors in response to the doom-mongering which was just beginning. Essential reading for all.

Ian
December 14, 2018 10:01 am

I very eloquent and rational article and well put out.

AGW is not Science
December 14, 2018 10:02 am

“Summary: Despite thirty years of efforts by most of the elite institutions of America, US governments have done little to fight climate change.”

US governments have “done little to fight” the incoming tides either, which is about as good an analogy as you can get. “Fighting climate change” is not being done (for the most part, though “King Obama” did his best to make sure this country was FUBAR) because it is FUTILE, and because the US (or any other) government is NOT in control of the Earth’s climate, nor is humanity in general. And the people therefore don’t support such a “fight.”

“While a bout of awful weather might panic America into enacting activists’ wish list, as of today this is one of the great political failures of modern American history.”

Bouts of awful WEATHER should not panic America into doing ANYTHING, because it is *JUST* WEATHER. If a “bout of bad WEATHER” panics the US into adopting the economically ruinous “climate policies,” it will be a sign of the SUCCESS, not FAILURE, of the “climate” propaganda.

“It is rich with lessons for when scientists warn of the next disaster. The 21st century will give us more such challenges. Let’s try to do better.”

NEXT disaster?! “Climate Change” as the term is used IS NO DISASTER, since it is MERELY an elaborate fairy tale used to push a political agenda. Are you suggesting that the lack of adoption of more colossally STUPID “climate policies” by the US is a BAD thing?!

“MORE such challenges?!” WHAT “challenge?!” Humanity has not been remotely “challenged” by the changes to the climate since the late 1800s – quite the reverse, in fact. The climate has IMPROVED. A warmer climate is a BETTER climate for life on Earth. If you want to see a “challenging” change of “climate,” see what happens should we return to “Little Ice Age” conditions, with TODAY’s population. THAT will be a “challenge,” and if humanity is stupid enough to squander its resources chasing its tail trying to “control” the “climate” through its CO2 emissions, it will be an INSURMOUNTABLE one.

“Do BETTER?” What does that mean – get the suckers to buy into this crap?! The whole introduction sounds like you took it from the same mold as the “If only the COMMUNICATION of “climate change” was better, the peons would support us” mentality.

Let’s do better, indeed – let’s stop trying naked power grabs based on junk science, and let’s start expanding useful knowledge based on ACTUAL science about NATURAL climate drivers, so we’ll know what’s REALLY coming, not keep trying to revive the Lysenkoist “climate change” crap or it’s next replacement.

Reply to  AGW is not Science
December 14, 2018 3:23 pm

I have the distinct impression that only a few people posting here have read this post carefully and understand what is being said by the author.
Hence my earlier comment about it being carefully worded.
Numerous commenters who we all know well to be strongly skeptical of CAGW have praised this post.
Baffling.
AGQ Is Not Science, you have read this the way I did, and your response is a much better summation that I managed.
Thank you.

Hans
Reply to  AGW is not Science
December 16, 2018 8:07 pm

+1 DUDE

ResourceGuy
December 14, 2018 10:04 am

One clue to the crusade going off the rails comes from cases like Solyndra and Solo Power. These two company failures that took down sizable amounts of taxpayer funds directed by strong political hands never had a ghost of chance of success in their own industry sectors. They were sizable companies and workforces with nothing to speak of in terms of market share, market valuation, or future. They were in fact ghost operations from a marketplace perspective like ghost employees that never show up for work. They existed in order to harvest loans and grants while providing short term virtue signaling to political leaders. Their technology and futures were never compelling to anyone other than government staffers with orders to move the funds without questions. Those operations were conducted while sidestepping the market leaders. Such fraudulent public policy has no staying power.

bwegher
December 14, 2018 10:08 am

The basis for the “climate change” crusade is entirely a ploy for political power, it has nothing to do with science.
The apparatchiks have actually revealed their real motives many times over the decades.
Except for Al Gore, not a single individual involved in the issue is known to most voters.
The “climate change” media freak show will never have any credibility as long as the voters think that Al Gore is the leader of the political movement.
Indeed, the day that Al Gore became the apparent leader of the “climate change” movement is the day that the movement lost the voters.

Tasfay Martinov
December 14, 2018 10:27 am

Larry Kummer sounds very urbane and broad-minded but what is the point about talking about “debate” when all the language is stuck inseparably to the notion of catastrophe, which, as Andy May demonstrated in his excellent recent article, is a false and deceitful premise. It is simply false to assert that risk of catastrophe is a serious mainstream scientific position, even leaving aside entirely the narrative of skeptics – just international academia. It’s not.

The clock is running for actions that might break the deadlock. Eventually the weather will give us the answers, perhaps at ruinous cost.

This clock ⏰ exists only in fantasy-scam land. No catastrophe is conceivably on the horizon on any rational scientific basis. Even the Holocene has been 3-5 deg C hotter than now, and past ages have been more than 10 degrees warmer, with the planet in rude health, forests up to the poles. So the notion of a 1.5 C warming being in any remote sense catastrophic is nonsensical. Not to mention the disgraceful silence on the clear evidence of global greening and boost to plant growth from CO2 enrichment of the atmosphere.

All this has been abundantly discussed numerous times. Why is this nonsensical fantasy of catastrophe still wasting everyone’s time?

It will be time to talk about debate when the mainstream opinion formers are open mindedly willing to consider the possibility that there is no catastrophe looming and that CO2 might be net beneficial in its small influence. That CO2 is not an enemy but a friend. Will this ever happen, Larry?

Reply to  Tasfay Martinov
December 14, 2018 3:31 pm

It bothers me when someone is spot on and speaking the truth, and no one responds.
So I am responding: Great post, Tasfay, keep fighting.

Reply to  Tasfay Martinov
December 14, 2018 11:22 pm

Tasfay,

I am amazed at the number of people here who say that scientists are overconfident in their findings – esp about the IPCC’s reports that state almost everything — including statements about the past — with some degree of uncertainty.

Adjacent to those complaints are astonishingly confident statements about the future made by amateurs. Given with the certainty that many people confine to basic arithmetic. Well, ok then.

Lance of BC
December 14, 2018 10:59 am

Well then, 30,000 climate crusader flown to exotic destinations around the world every year for two weeks to come up with more regulations and ideas to tax the sheet out of the west. Unknown faceless parasites that are trumpeted by the MSN to agree on how much MORE blood should be sucked. ALL based on models that have so many fudge factors, adjustments, unknowns and have never been right….

TRILLIONS are being spent … and they want more year after year. Oh yeah 12 years till the end of the world…you know how many times I’ve heard this in my life? EVERY F-ING YEAR, nonstop, I’m so sick of talking about, hearing it daily and having to put up with fake enviro scientists spouting the next extinction/catastrophe/ end of the world prediction, just around the corner that never happens and cost us billions of dollars to solve a non existent threat.
The population has stopped listening to you scientists because of this alarmism, we all have tried our best to understand but have been shut down and you ridiculed us unwashed. More computer models and stupid graphs mean nothing when you dont fully understand the science yourselves…. just more mental masturbation to puff up and hide your lack of knowledge. You have set back science a century and caused misery around the world.

Honestly, when push comes to shove like in France (and its here in Canada), destroying this globalists agenda, I will be in the streets and die if needed.

December 14, 2018 11:07 am

Larry, your thought that governments have failed miserably in not having a policy in place to battle CAGW is an odd tack. You suggest we better fix it for the next dire (Malthusian) case brought to us by scientists. It is typical of those from the arts side of scholarly endeavor to have such reverence for scientists, once justified but not in the last few generations. Degraded and corrupted science education has flooded the field with Crackerjack^тм (prizes) Phds, who as S. McIntyre describes it, would be lucky to be highschool science teachers a few generations ago.

A recent PhD in Australia, (BTW on the sceptical side of the divide) got his degree for a statistical analytic critique of the HADCRUT temp data set. This is an indictment of both innocent student and witless professor. A decent piece of work perhaps for a batcheor’s degree (I undertook a seismic exploration of a major limestone formation locating new caves for my BSc.).

Typically on the arts side, but certainly advanced in climate science, is the abandonment of the scientific method and even of the finer elements of logic that perhaps the arts still acknowledge, for consensus as a measure of a theory’s significance.

Larry, the only support for CAGW causal theory is “what else can it be?” The “what” being that weve had <1C temp increase since the Little Ice Age. They perish the thought of how the temp dipped a degree or more from the Medieval Warm Period with little difference in CO2, which they have tried to disappear with their hockey sticks. If I am overlooking the real proof, could someone please come out right now and enlighten me?

Tell me, Larry, what convinces you that we are headed for heatborne disaster.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
December 14, 2018 12:03 pm

Gary,

As so many writers have said, please provide a quote showing what you are critiquing. You don’t appear to have read the post.

“your thought that governments have failed miserably in not having a policy in place to battle CAGW is an odd tack.”

The post says nothing remotely like that. I give two examples of errors by scientists, and this conclusion:

“A critical mass of the US public has lost confidence in climate science as an institution (i.e., rejecting its warnings).”

“You suggest we better fix it for the next dire (Malthusian) case brought to us by scientists. ”

Can you do better than silly exaggerations? Let’s replay the tape.

“More challenges lie ahead in which we will need scientists to evaluate risks and find the best responses.”

“the only support for CAGW causal theory is “what else can it be?”

How nice that you cosplay a climate scientist. Do you have anything relevant to say about this post?

“what convinces you that we are headed for heatborne disaster.”

What convinces me that you even read this post? Nothing.

Reply to  Larry
December 14, 2018 2:16 pm

Well then your post is confusing. If governments failed miserably to get going on policy to deal with something that no one can provide clear evidence for, one might ask why we havent a policy for dealing with Bertrand Russell’s “orbitting teapot” see Wiki for this instructive item.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

Failure to do something about a worry for which there is no definitive evidence is a failure to be thankful for. And logically why should we correct this failure for the next time we are faced with the vicissitudes of the orbitting teapot? We surely we would have to find it first and this could cost trillions!

So, Larry, what convinced you we face an existential threat. I truly would like to know. I suspect you may not have given this much thought.

Oh BTW, I am a geologist and an engineer. I even studied paleoclimate as all (most) geology students do.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
December 14, 2018 10:49 pm

Gary,

Try reading the post. Nobody will spoon-feed you the contents.

Reply to  Larry
December 15, 2018 7:31 am

Well I re-read the article and came away with the same thing. Why not answer the simple question. It is a natural one to be asked here. If you have been convinced that the IPCC view is even very approximately correct, what convinces you?

As a scientist myself, I definitely am open to be convinced. With a necessarily complex science like climate, I know it won’t be unequivocal evidence, but no one has ever been able to set down this evidence in front of me. I’m certainly not convinced by hype and scientific misbehavior.

I get the same kind of ‘answers’ and dismissal you give me when I ask a climate scientist.

John F. Hultquist
December 14, 2018 11:29 am

In November, Washington voters decisively defeated an ambitious proposal to fight climate change.”

Actually, Washington State voters saw a tax & spend bill (they called it a fee, because the word tax is no longer used in the State. The bill, if passed, would not, nor could it have an impact on Earth’s climate. People do not like to be lied to. WA State has a couple of serious issues that need attention (the Cascadia Subduction Zone, for example), but global warming isn’t one of them.

Washington voters did approve a large gasoline tax (over 2 years) when that bill was designed and explained as a highway fixing effort.

December 14, 2018 12:28 pm

You want to make people think, ask them if they want to help their children’s children’s children. Ask them if they think there will be another ice age.

If they say yes, ask them if it would be worthwhile to postpone it a little while by warming up the atmosphere.

If they say no, ask them why they think there won’t be another ice age when the earth has had so many!

whiten
December 14, 2018 12:46 pm

Good one Larry, beautiful… if I may say.

cheers

Reply to  whiten
December 14, 2018 1:03 pm

Whiten,

Thank you for the review! Here’s a bit of background you might find of interest.

I created the first draft of this in 2009, when I didn’t know much about climate change (but was very familiar with the public policy process). These recommendations seemed pretty obvious now, and still seems so today.

I’ve circulated this post for comment from some climate scientists. Early comments: some of those I respect have given up on climate science. As Max Planck said, we might have to wait for current leaders to pass from the scene before progress becomes possible.

I totally disagree. I’ve personally seen strong leadership revitalize situations far worse than this. People – esp modern Americans – give up too easily.

I met a great chess player, a grand champion, a long time ago. I don’t recall the details, but he told me about a great player who would play on long after the game appeared hopeless. After winning in an endgame, his opponent asked why he continued played when anyone else would have conceded. “Ah, that’s why you lose” was the reply.

whiten
Reply to  Larry
December 17, 2018 12:20 pm

Thank Larry, for the reply.

I am quite sure that this is maybe off topic, but just for the sake of trying to add a line there,
maybe also a bit too late in the day.

You mention chess there, in the position and proposition of a point put forward.

In my understanding, I got to say, in this point in time the best ever indisputable winner in chess happens to be The Alpha Google Zero, an AI…can you believe it!

But still the most beautiful player in chess this days still happen to be the Leela Alpha Zero AI,
so too speak, the little sister of The Alpha Zero Google…a “weaker” AI

The most beautiful thing Leela does, in chess, as far as I can tell, is that when a game against Leela
is lost, the opponent gets a simple message;
“if you do try a go in draw, you better be ready to surrender… longer it will take, more humiliating and more clear the loss will be….something that Alpha Zero Google not so keen on applying it so clearly…

So, the point tried here is in the proposition, that these days there is no way to consider a win or even a draw if one happens to be in a certain loosing path…for certain…only a condition for further loos and further humiliation till the end of the game…especially if the loosing party flirts with the idea of a possible win or draw while the condition is one of an actual clear loss.

Maybe should not have done this, but only triggered by the mentioning of a chess game.

Still, Leela, the AI Alpha zero, shows this proposition in chess game playing, as far as I can tell.

Please forgive my jump here, in this given way, as most probably no much value there, and also maybe truly off context of your article here….
thank very much… 🙂

(should not done this, but hey, done it any way, hopefully meni does not mind.)

again.

cheers

Roger Knights
December 14, 2018 1:19 pm

“First, the basis for the warnings must be evaluated by an interdisciplinary team of experts outside the community sounding the alarm.”

One or more “science courts” of some sort (not governmental, not necessarily even official or certified, perhaps not even coming to any firm conclusions, similar to the Dutch Climate Dialogue site), as proposed in the 1970s, is desperately needed. Such an institution would have shortened the time needed to correct the Consensus on nutrition, ulcers, DDT, etc.

Reply to  Roger Knights
December 14, 2018 1:56 pm

Roger,

I agree! This would be valuable because nobody likes other experts grading their work. Pressure for that must come from the paymasters.

“perhaps not even coming to any firm conclusions”

That would be very helpful to policy makers and the public. For example, “the evidence is insufficient to validate the climate models at this time.” It would also shatter climate scientists complacency, point to weaknesses in their work, and spur efforts to do better.

Reply to  Roger Knights
December 14, 2018 3:50 pm

Yes, a science Star Chamber to rule on what is true and enforce their decisions…that is what we need!
Not!
We have the scientific method for that.
Politicians need to stay out of it, for the sake of the truth, for the sake of determining what is what according to objective reality.
IOW…for the sake of science.
Peer review and Star chambers do not get at the truth, they enforce experts opinions.
Science is the belief in the fallibility of experts, not a method for granting them authority over what is what.

Reply to  Menicholas
December 14, 2018 11:05 pm

Menicholas ,

“Yes, a science Star Chamber to rule on what is true and enforce their decisions”

Let’s replay the tape. I said:

“The basis for the warnings must be evaluated by an interdisciplinary team of experts outside the community sounding the alarm.”

These investigative commissions are commonly used mechanisms in the US. They study and issue recommendations for action by the elected officials of the Executive and Legislative branches. They have nothing in common with a star chamber, which is…

“In modern usage, legal or administrative bodies with strict, arbitrary rulings and secretive proceedings are sometimes called, metaphorically or poetically, ‘star chambers.’ This is a pejorative term and intended to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the proceedings. “

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

Roger Knights
Reply to  Menicholas
December 16, 2018 1:47 pm

“We have the scientific method for that.”

How’s that working out for yah?

Roger Knights
December 14, 2018 1:23 pm

“US governments have done little to fight climate change. ”

Not true; state and local governments are just getting started, with the public in those locales behind them. (Alas.)

Reply to  Roger Knights
December 14, 2018 1:52 pm

Roger,

” state and local governments are just getting started”

Examples, please. California is, as usual, the outlier. See “Voters rejected most ballot measures aimed at curbing climate change” in the WaPo, 7 November 2018 — “From Arizona to Colorado, voters reject measures to ramp up renewables and limit drilling.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/energy-environment/2018/11/07/ballot-measures-taking-aim-climate-change-fall-short/

Roger Knights
Reply to  Larry
December 14, 2018 2:31 pm

I Googled for “renewable projects USA state and local” and got this search-results page:
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=renewables+projects+USA+staate+and+local&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I seem to recall warmist sites trumpeting and activists trumpeting their plans to do an end-around Trump’s policy by going local. I’ve read of conferences ought state government officials and mayors on implementing renewables, etc. States and localities are committing to a high percentage of renewable electricity in the future—Washington state has just done so, by its legislature and governor. And this is just getting started.

In the end, it’s all good, as such persistence in the face of the failure of similar renewables-inpositions abroad is indefensible and will terminally discredit The Anointed.

(I hope. OTOH, environmentalists might come up with a REAL threat and they’ll be ignored, because of their prior wolf-crying.)

Neville
December 14, 2018 1:39 pm

The so called mitigation of their so called CAGW is just BS and fra-d according to Dr Hansen.(Guardian interview about Paris COP 21.)
And Lomborg’s latest research shows that there would be no measurable change to temp by 2100 even if every country carried out COP 21 to the letter.
So how many more trillions $ have to be wasted over how many more decades before they eventually wake up? Do maths and science count for nothing anymore?
Here’s the Lomborg link.

https://climatechangedispatch.com/where-do-we-get-most-of-our-energy-hint-not-renewables/

hunter
December 14, 2018 1:55 pm

FM makes good points but misses the white rlephant in the room:
Is any of the mitigation effort justified?
The consensus largely refuses to address that question.
And it is not only important, it is the fundamental issue.
And the public square is firmly controlled by pro-consensus people.

Reply to  hunter
December 14, 2018 3:45 pm

Hunter,

“FM makes good points but misses the white elephant in the room:”

This is a focused article about one specific aspect of the climate change debate. It is not the Britannica article about climate change. There are ten thousand things it does not discuss.

At 1800 words it is too long for many readers. Many find anything over 1000 words to long to read or absorb.

spalding craft
December 14, 2018 2:21 pm

Phase III and beyond would require a cooperative Congress. I don’t agree with Beta Blocker’s view that the plan can all be done through executive action. Particularly once you get into controlling the production of fossil fuels – that would require a civil war since Congress would never have anything to do with such a thing.

Reply to  spalding craft
December 14, 2018 3:54 pm

Yes, because legislation that starves and freezes people to death would be, rightly, very unpopular.
To do so for no justifiable reason would be just plain murder.

Neville
December 14, 2018 3:01 pm

Here’s Dr Hansen’s COP 21 BS and fra-d quote from the Guardian interview in 2015. So much for their delusional mitigation nonsense.

Mere mention of the Paris climate talks is enough to make James Hansen grumpy. The former Nasa scientist, considered the father of global awareness of climate change, is a soft-spoken, almost diffident Iowan. But when he talks about the gathering of nearly 200 nations, his demeanour changes.

“It’s a fraud really, a fake,” he says, rubbing his head. “It’s just bullshit for them to say: ‘We’ll have a 2C warming target and then try to do a little better every five years.’ It’s just worthless words. There is no action, just promises. As long as fossil fuels appear to be the cheapest fuels out there, they will be continued to be burned.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/12/james-hansen-climate-change-paris-talks-fraud

Neville
December 14, 2018 3:09 pm

Here’s Lomborg’s Paris COP 21 study that shows no measurable change to temp by 2100, EVEN if FULL compliance was followed by ALL the countries involved.
When will they wake up to their delusional nonsense?

https://www.lomborg.com/press-release-research-reveals-negligible-impact-of-paris-climate-promises

Stevek
December 14, 2018 3:49 pm

They should have instead did a Nuclear energy campaign. Then people might have taken them seriously.

Reply to  Stevek
December 14, 2018 3:58 pm

That they have not gotten fully behind perhaps the only presently achievable means to reduce that which they say must be reduced, or we are all doomed, is perhaps the most transparent and telling aspect of their web of lies and deceit.

Herbert
December 14, 2018 3:53 pm

Larry,
On 15 June 2009,in Australia there was a meeting between Senator Steve Fielding accompanied by 4 Scientists,the late Bob Carter,William Kininmonth,David Evans and Stewart Franks with the Climate Minister Penny Wong, the Chief Scientist,Professor Penny Hackett and Professor Will Stefan.
A briefing paper was prepared by Senator Steve Fielding. It outlined questions put by the Senator and the supporting material supplied by his scientific advisers from Australia and overseas.
They were questions the Senator wanted answered to make an informed decision on whether or not an emissions trading scheme was the best course for Australia or not to deal with climate change.
The then Labor Government needed his vote in the Senate.
The questions were-
1.Is it the case that CO2 increased by 5% since 1998 whilst global temperature cooled over the same period( See Fig.1)?
If so, why did the temperature not increase; and how can human emissions be to blame for dangerous levels of warming?
2.Is it the case that the rate and magnitude of warming between 1979 and 1998 ( the late 20th Century phase of global warming) was not unusual in either rate or magnitude as compared with warmings that have occurred earlier in the earth’s history ( fig.2a, 2b)?
If the warming was not unusual, why is it perceived to have been caused by human CO2 emissions ; and, in any event,why is warming a problem if the Earth has experienced similar warming’s in the past?
Question 3.
Is it the case that al, GCM computer models projected a steady increase in temperature for the period 1990-2008, whereas in fact there were only 8 years of warming followed by 10 years of stasis and cooling?
If so ,why is it assumed that long-term climate projections by the same models are suitable as a basis for public policy making?
The answers which later drew an incisive rebuttal from Fieldings advisers were-
1.When scientists talk about global warming they mean warming of the climate system as a whole,which includes the atmosphere ,the oceans and the cryosphere etc.
The observational evidence clearly indicates that the climate system has continued to warm since 1998.During this period, ocean heat content has risen,ice and snow have continued to melt, and there has been no material trend in global air temperatures.
( As an aside under ‘ ice, snow and frozen ground’ they say…’There has been a small increase in the area of Antarctic sea ice, although it is not known whether the amount of Antarctic sea ice has changed because there are no data on ice thickness’).
There is then a statement that time scales of around 10 years can mask the atmospheric warming trend because of ‘ natural variability.’
On Question 2.
‘While the Earth’s temperature has been warmer in the geological past than it is today,the magnitude and rate of change is unusual in a Geologic context.Evidence from ice cores shows that between ice ages and warm interglacial periods temperatures increased by 4 to 7 degrees C. However this was a gradual process taking approx. 5000 years……Globally the Earth has already experienced warming of 0.76 degrees C since 1850, a very rapid change inn geological terms.’
( There then appears the Hockey Stick to show that warming over the last 2000 years has been ‘ unusual’and outside the envelope of natural variability.
On Question 3, the Answer was
‘It is not the case that all GCM computer models projected a steady increase in temperature for the period 1990-2008.
As noted above, air temperatures are affected by natural variability. GCMs show this variability but are not able to predict when such variations will happen.’
Larry,
The responses by Fielding’s advisers were predictable and clear in rebutting this cavalcade of obfuscation.
They make the point that for the government to invoke natural variability as an explanation for the elapsed temperature curve ( and the ‘pause’) is to destroy the credibility of their previous arguments.
This episode is very unusual worldwide in highlighting the dispute on inter alia ‘ the pause’.

Herbert
December 14, 2018 3:54 pm

Larry,
On 15 June 2009,in Australia there was a meeting between Senator Steve Fielding accompanied by 4 Scientists,the late Bob Carter,William Kininmonth,David Evans and Stewart Franks with the Climate Minister Penny Wong, the Chief Scientist,Professor Penny Hackett and Professor Will Stefan.
A briefing paper was prepared by Senator Steve Fielding. It outlined questions put by the Senator and the supporting material supplied by his scientific advisers from Australia and overseas.
They were questions the Senator wanted answered to make an informed decision on whether orr not an emissions tradind scheme was the best course for Australia or not to deal with climate change.
The then Labor Government needed his vote in the Senate.
The questions were-
1.Is it the case that CO2 increased by 5% since 1998 whilst global temperature cooled over the same period( See Fig.1)?
If so, why did the temperature not increase; and how can human emissions be to blame for dangerous levels of warming?
2.Is it the case that the rate and magnitude of warming between 1979 and 1998 ( the late 20th Century phase of global warming) was not unusual in either rate or magnitude as compared with warmings that have occurred earlier in the earth’s history ( fig.2a, 2b)?
If the warming was not unusual, why is it perceived to have been caused by human CO2 emissions ; and, in any event,why is warming a problem if the Earth has experienced similar warming’s in the past?
Question 3.
Is it the case that al, GCM computer models projected a steady increase in temperature for the period 1990-2008, whereas in fact there were only 8 years of warming followed by 10 years of stasis and cooling?
If so ,why is it assumed that long-term climate projections by the same models are suitable as a basis for public policy making?
The answers which later drew an incisive rebuttal from Fieldings advisers were-
1.When scientists talk about global warming they mean warming of the climate system as a whole,which includes the atmosphere ,the oceans and the cryosphere etc.
The observational evidence clearly indicates that the climate system has continued to war since 1998.During this period, ocean heat content has risen,Ice and snow have continued to melt, and there has been no material trend in global air temperatures.
( As an aside under ‘ ice, snow and frozen ground’ they say…’There has been a small increase in the area of Antarctic sea ice, although it is not known whether the amount of Antarctic sea ice has changed because there are no data on ice thickness’).
There is then a statement that time scales of around 10 years can mask the atmospheric warming trend because of ‘ natural variability.
On Question 2. While the Earth’s temperature has been warmer in the geological past than it is today,the magnitude snd rate of change is unusual in a Geologic context.Evidence from ice cores shows that between ice ages and warm interglacial periods temperatures increased by 4 to 7 degrees C. However this was a gradual process taking approx. 5000 years……Globally the Earth has already experienced warming of 0.76 degrees C since 1850, a very rapid change inn geological terms.
( There then appears the Hockey Stick to show that warming over the last 2000years has been ‘ unusual ‘ and outside the envelope of natural variability.
On Question 3, the Answer was
It is not the case that all GCM computer models projected a steady increase in temperature for the period 1990-2008.
As noted above, air temperatures are affected by natural variability. GCMs show this variability but are not able to predict when such variations will happen.
Larry,
The responses by Fielding’s advisers were predictable and clear in rebutting this cavalcade of obfuscation.

December 14, 2018 4:47 pm

Larry Kummer, “While a bout of awful weather might panic America into enacting activists’ wish list, as of today [doing little to fight climate change] is one of the great political failures of modern American history.

Exactly backwards. Doing nothing to fight “climate change,” a dissimulating obfuscating neologism meaning industrial CO2 emissions, is probably the greatest political triumph achieved in the US since the defeat of the Soviet Union.

The US has found its way to the truth of the matter in the face of insistent junk science, lying at the IPCC, the vociferous lies and distortions of green NGOs, and the willful ignorance and partisan, biased hortatory of the media.

Hooray for America, I say!

Since James Hansen brought global warming to the headlines in his 1989 Senate testimony,…

Testimony in which James Hansen presented his temperature projections without any uncertainty bars, as though they were perfectly accurate.

Testimony in which James Hansen expressed 99% certainty that CO2-induced global warming was already upon us in 1988 (not 1989), which 99% was based on a statistical inference that ±0.13 C of temperature jitter represented all of climate variability. Deep science, that./sarc

Testimony that, if not intentionally duplicitous, was 100% misleading. There was no evidence of a crisis then, there is no evidence of a crisis now.

There are simpler and more powerful explanations for the [climate alarm] campaign’s failure.

Yeah. They’re lying and the public figured it out.

“The time for debate has ended” –Marcia McNutt

She’s right, but not for the reason she (and very likely Larry Kummer) thinks.

The time for debate is over because the alarmist side has been guilty of fake science, wild exaggeration, active censorship of critical thinking, conspiracy to deceive (see the climategate emails), betrayal of science, and all-around abandonment of any sort of integrity.

Important: climate scientists can restart the climate change debate – & win.

Fat f***ing chance.

They lost the debate because, first, they are not scientists, second they abandoned any aspect of science back in 1988, and third the AGW-pushers are generally incompetent.

Thomas Kuhn tells us what we need to know about climate science.

Thomas Kuhn used inaccurate and equivocal language to describe science. Whatever else he may have gotten right, he is wrong about the way science works. He won’t tell us anything we need to know about climate science.

Dick Lindzen will tell us what we need to know about climate science.

Such as, When an issue becomes a vital part of a political agenda, as is the case with climate, then the politically desired position becomes a goal rather than a consequence of scientific research. (my bold)”

That’s climate so-called-science. All politics, no science.

billtoo
Reply to  Pat Frank
December 14, 2018 8:47 pm

perfect. shame there’s no up vote mechanism

Reply to  billtoo
December 15, 2018 5:15 pm

Sure there is.
You just used it.
Let me add my upvote to yours.

Hans
Reply to  Pat Frank
December 15, 2018 11:56 pm

Nicely stated, Mr Frank !!

John Endicott
Reply to  Pat Frank
December 17, 2018 10:54 am

Spot on Pat Frank. Well said

Lance of BC
December 14, 2018 6:00 pm

“a statement that time scales of around 10 years can mask the atmospheric warming trend because of ‘ natural variability.’
How can you tell? And if it’s in 10 year cycles isn’t it a crap shoot to know what is natural or agw? Oh and what ever happened to the “it takes 30 years to record a climate cycle to see AGW”? Oh yeah, it didn’t get very hot.. it stalled.

“Globally the Earth has already experienced warming of 0.76 degrees C since 1850, a very rapid change inn geological terms.”

Funny, that number has creeping up by .1 a degree 20-30 years ago and now it’s creeping up by .01 degree , ooooh that’s preeetty scary, at this rate by 2030(12y) it might hit “GASP!” .766 !!!

THINK OF THE CHILDREN …THEN WE’LL NEED A GAJILLION DOLLERS …IPCC TOLD SO BUT YOU WOULD NOT LISTEN!!!!

michael hart
December 14, 2018 7:31 pm

“The majority of scientists in all fields support the program.”

Really? I don’t recall them ever being asked. What I do remember is a handful of activists often forming themselves a committee and writing a policy statement on behalf of all the members of large scientific associations without actually surveying the opinions of their members in a meaningful way.

Hans
December 14, 2018 8:21 pm

“The Yellow Vest protests in France are the death knell for large-scale action in France. What went wrong?”

What does this have to do with AGW, Mr Kummer? As is so often, your proses
are very misleading and confusing for the enlightened reader.

Reply to  Hans
December 14, 2018 10:55 pm

Hans,

“What does this have to do with AGW?”

The initial spark for the Yellow Vest protest was the proposed increase in the carbon tax. Cancelling it was the French government’s first response. Even the liberals at the NYT couldn’t spin this as good news for the climate crusade:

NYT: “‘Yellow Vest’ Protests Shake France. Here’s the Lesson for Climate Change.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/world/europe/france-fuel-carbon-tax.html

Hans
Reply to  Larry
December 15, 2018 11:29 pm

Thank you, Mr Kummer. Yes, this is true but only
in part, as the demonstrators stated in numerous
reports there were a host of grievances and not
strictly carbon tax.

You certainly have contempt for those whom risk
bodily injury or worst, to stand against globalists
and their cronies in Brussels.

“Occupy Wall Street, the Tea Party, Black Lives Matter, and now the Yellow Vests. These are the peasants protest of our time. Without feasible goals, without organization. They dominate the media for a brief time, exciting the Outer Party (for whom becoming informed is entertainment). leave little or nothing behind. It is back to business as usual for France’s ruling class!

As I predicted.”

This is an insult to free Frenchman whom took to the
streets, at their own peril, to demand repeal of encumbering
taxes and regulations. And what is your quote suggesting,
that out of this a new movement, a political party or the
resurrection of the French Republic? Perhaps their aim was
to address a number of domestic issues and not the overthrow
of the seated government.

Having read your piece, still leaves me wondering whether or
not you believe in Global Warming.