Almost half of the contiguous USA still covered in snow

From NOAA’s National Operational Hydrologic Remote Sensing Center comes this snow map today showing that nearly half of the mainland is covered by snow accompanying the Arctic Cold Blast leading into the new year. While we start 2018 down slightly from the peak last week, it’s still a large area of snow cover.

On December 25, 2017 the total contiguous USA Area Covered By Snow was 49.0% making a “White Christmas” for almost half of the USA (excluding Alaska and Hawaii, though both have snow).


Most the the loss occurred in the Southern States where temperatures are warmer, but the northern states and Canada remained locked in the white grip, suggesting that cold air incursions into the USA will continue for awhile.  January 1, 2018   Area Covered By Snow: 41.9%

In the past 24 hours, as much as 14″ of news snow has fallen. Here are the top ten snowfall reports.

Station ID Name Elevation






Report Date / Time(UTC)
41.5909_081.0473 MONTVILLE (CLE1322) 1243 8.000 12.000 2017-12-31 12:00
MI-GT-25 TRAVERSE CITY 4.7 ESE, MI 804 14.200 24.000 2017-12-31 12:00
LAPI3 LAPORTE 817 13.600 24.000 2018-01-01 06:00
41.3769_081.6684 SEVEN HILLS NWS EMPLOYEE (CLE1173) 1040 6.800 12.000 2017-12-31 08:30
42.4441_079.3461 1 WNW FREDONIA COCORAHS (X4240793) 692 12.000 23.000 2017-12-31 10:00
CHKP1 CHALKHILL 1995 12.000 24.000 2017-12-31 12:00
TCMM4 TRAVERSE CITY MUNSON 630 11.600 24.000 2017-12-31 12:30
41.4077_081.5012 BEDFORD HTS SNOW SPOTTER (CLE1175) 1086 5.600 12.000 2017-12-31 14:21
PA-SM-1 HIDDEN VALLEY 0.3 ENE, PA 2759 11.000 24.000 2017-12-31 10:00
NY-OS-15 MINETTO 0.1 SE, NY 335 10.600 24.000 2017-12-31 12:30


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January 1, 2018 10:23 am
Reply to  co2islife
January 1, 2018 11:08 am

Politics, dear reader, does NOT need to look outside the window to tell the weather. It believes whatever the cabal in the lunchroom has conjured forth. Or repeats the “news” that the loonies across the river have posted on their news. Or WHATEVER will scare people into buying a paper, reading an article and GETTING PAID by advertisers to do so.

How even can one even conceive of “trusting the news” when they have a vested interest, an existential tie to needing to raise substantial money to fund their livelihoods? If tripe sells, stir up more tripe. If shît sells, gather up and fling shît. But do so in an almost-but-not-quite believable rhetoric that doesn’t seem to be so self-serving. Or disingenuous. Or mendacious.

Thing is: the world’s leaders really are mostly “smarter” than the tabloids (I mean News) would have us believe. Rubber chickens can squawk endless about the falling-of-the-sky, but most everyone just goes about their business. Its the REAL way the world works.

Happy New Year 2012

Reply to  GoatGuy
January 1, 2018 11:10 am

(the 2012 … was to memorialize this comment from 6 years ago, at a different site.)

Reply to  co2islife
January 1, 2018 11:25 am

Yesterday good old (read senile) CBC had to “balance” their stories on cold records with the most bizarre story of a drought which might develop in South Africa by May. Their need to keep the fear campaign rolling is painful to watch.

Reply to  BCBill
January 1, 2018 12:35 pm

Heavens to Betsy! Not a drought in South Africa! People will starve to death. All my friends there will be direly affected. Oh, wait. I don’t know anybody there at all. Never mind.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  BCBill
January 1, 2018 12:58 pm

South Africa has two distinct climate zones: the summer rainfall area and the winter rainfall area. The former follows a metonic cycle of 19 years with a drought and rain sine wave (generally speaking). The peak droughts will be / were 1983, 2002, 2021, 2040 and so one. The Winter Rainfall area is Cape Town and its immediate area. That has a 10 year cycle with a clear sine wave pattern based on 400 years of data. No one that I have read knows why it is 10 years and not 11 or 15 etc.

Those are old enough will remember the terrible drought that gripped the summer rainfall region centered on 1983. In 1986 there were children going to primary school in Namibia who had never seen it rain! It will come again in 2021. No big deal, just the usual. Fortunately it is broken up by random weather events, for example the 1983 hurricane Demoina in the middle of a drought that saved the maize crop on Swaziland and Mpumalanga.

Rhoda R
Reply to  BCBill
January 1, 2018 12:58 pm

This morning, Newsy (a Roku ‘news’ site, had a scare article on how all this CO2 is causing the food plants to produce less nutritious produce. It even had a big spread about how the honey bees are affected because the nectar they are sucking in is less nutirtious.

Leo Smith
Reply to  BCBill
January 1, 2018 3:24 pm

There is already severe drought in the southern part of S Africa. Some of us know many people there.

Being anti-alarmist is one thing, being pejoratively parochial is another, entirely.

Reply to  BCBill
January 1, 2018 6:29 pm

My intent wasn’t to downplay the seriousness of drought in S.A. We watch BBC World News to find out what is happening in the world because CBC is so parochial. You may hear nothing of world news from CBC for weeks at a time. For example, the war in Yemen might as well not exist, so it seems too good to be true that CBC suddenly develops an interest in drought in SA at the very moment they were reporting the cancellation of New Years celebrations due to the cold.

Andy Pattullo
Reply to  BCBill
January 2, 2018 7:43 am

Yes, being a journalist is made infinitely more difficult when one is expected to insert a little reality every once in a while between all of the predictions of doom. Clearly we could make their jobs far more efficient if we just accept that they are writing for the fiction section of the library. Their wares belong right next to the Hollywood tell-all’s by the grocery checkout.

Reply to  co2islife
January 1, 2018 11:44 am


With a picture of Tony Hancock.

And for anyone who doesn’t know, the late Tony Hancock was considered a genius British comedian of the 60’s.

Appropriate really.

And please read the wacko comments on the Guardian site following the article, led by the usual idiots like RockyRex. All calamitous hysterics about taxing everything in sight to save the world from CO2.

Thank you Co2islife for your continuing campaign against these morons.

Reply to  co2islife
January 1, 2018 1:17 pm

But The Guardian employs Dana, so it’s going to be talking alarmist rubbish!

Reply to  co2islife
January 1, 2018 6:35 pm

Remember, the other half of the population can only parrot. So far, no cure in sight.

Reply to  co2islife
January 1, 2018 6:42 pm

Here’s how they’d have it: If you ain’t scared, you ain’t sane. So spreading mindless lies is them performing a public service.

January 1, 2018 10:24 am

Here is a follow up:
CO2 is Nearly 33% Higher and Temperatures are Currently Making 100 Yr Record LOWS

Reply to  co2islife
January 1, 2018 12:34 pm

The true believers will simply say there are more high records than cold and bring out a different pretty colored globe to “prove” their point. They simply cannot fathom being wrong.

Reply to  Sheri
January 1, 2018 12:38 pm

Cold records and hot records are set via different mechanisms. Cold records, in particular, may involve two changes of phase. There’s no way to state that one hot record is equivalent to and offsets one cold record. It’s just nonsense.

January 1, 2018 10:27 am

Does … does this mean children are going to know what snow is?

Is … is all of this snow going to save us from a catastrophic sea level rise?

(worry, worry, worry)

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Marv
January 1, 2018 12:34 pm

Maybe they will only know it as “precipitation change.”

Reply to  Marv
January 1, 2018 1:02 pm

They will not know what snow is if they are instructed to stay indoors with their disaster coloring books and continue practicing their climate chants.

Reply to  Resourceguy
January 1, 2018 1:10 pm

” … continue practicing their climate chants …”. AlGore rhythms, perhaps?

Reply to  Resourceguy
January 1, 2018 3:52 pm

Bob B
I nearly lost a monitor!

Auto – still chuckling nicely!

J Mac
January 1, 2018 10:34 am

It’s what we call ‘winter’, here in the USA and it is cold. Many areas in the US, particularly the NE, had a mild start to the winter last year. This year, it is ‘reversion to the mean’….. and US children are in no danger of ‘not knowing what snow looks like’.

Happy New Year everyone!

Reply to  J Mac
January 1, 2018 1:58 pm

Happy New Year, yourself, and yes, it’s Winter. There’s snow on the ground. I’d be much more concerned if there were bright sunshine, no snow and 70F weather on January 1.

What’s the problem, again?

Anyway, I saw sundogs yesterday, around 2:30PM (CST), photographed them for posterity, and figured that the late time of day means that by Wednesday afternoon, we’ll have more snow. It also helps to know that my photos clearly showed a high level of ice streaming eastward from the eastern side of that lensing effect (sundog). It’s not really in the forecast just yet, but Accuweather is notoriously inaccurate in its weather forecasting. Their hi/low forecasts have sometimes changed by the time of day. That’s scary. They’ll probably figure out what I already know by Wednesday morning and go into one of their panic attack forecasts.

Anyway, all of you have a wonderful 2018. And since I made boeuf bourguignon this morning and am waiting anxiously to test it around suppertime, don’t sample the wine on an empty stomach. It makes you loopy. Have some toast with it, fer Pete’s sake! I do know better, but…. well, it had a nice bouquet that went with the bacon in the stew.

Reply to  Sara
January 1, 2018 4:50 pm

Pictures please – you can’t tease us saying you captured the sundogs and not show us!

Reply to  Sara
January 2, 2018 3:35 pm

I would, but I don’t have any idea how to post my images on WUWT.

Reply to  J Mac
January 2, 2018 12:19 am

Cold it is. -13 F at my place in north central Indiana right now with a wind chill warning in effect. I took vacation 31st, 1st, and 2nd but upon the request of my employer agreed that if on the 2nd they found themselves in a bind they could call me in to work. Sure enough I got the call. Fourteen drivers that were committed to runs today (the 2nd) called off. So I am about ready to go out at 05:00 this morning. Coldest time of what could very well be the coldest day we see here in 2018. Going to Indianapolis where I drop & hook then up to Waukegan, IL (Chicago) for live load and unload, then back to Indianapolis to drop then back to the terminal in Anderson. So Happy New Year!

BTW -13 is the coldest day I have recorded here since we moved into this house in 2001 and I would bet it hits -14 before dawn.

Hope the winds on I-65 are moderate. Gusting winds on icy interstates or hi-ways are right up at the top of the list for potential disaster. Years ago my rig was pushed right across an icy I-80 in Wyoming. The only thing that prevented a jack knife was the fact that the berm of plowed snow just off the shoulder was crusty compacted Névé and my tires basically bounced off of it. I had the rig so straight when I hit that hard packed old snow that I didn’t even tear up any of the fairings on the tractor. Thankfully no traffic around. Sane drivers, with the exception of us truck drivers, knowing better than to go out in those conditions.

Reply to  RAH
January 2, 2018 3:37 pm

I hope you had a very safe trip!

David Oliver Smith
January 1, 2018 10:42 am

I’m waiting for Trump to claim he ended global warming in his first year.

Mario Lento
Reply to  David Oliver Smith
January 1, 2018 10:54 am


Reply to  David Oliver Smith
January 1, 2018 10:55 am

LOVE it. Fitting.

Reply to  David Oliver Smith
January 1, 2018 11:51 am

you missed a word….s c a m……he ended global warming s c a m

Reply to  Latitude
January 1, 2018 1:02 pm


Reply to  Latitude
January 1, 2018 1:22 pm

Obamorama claimed he did it…before he was even president

NZ Willy
Reply to  Latitude
January 1, 2018 8:59 pm

No, Obama lowered the seas, remember? Like Moses or something. Trump can never match that.

Reply to  David Oliver Smith
January 1, 2018 12:27 pm

The December UAH value will be interesting.

Richard M
Reply to  AndyG55
January 1, 2018 3:59 pm

Not going to be much different than November. We are into the winter which means the AMO driven Arctic ice loss allowing more ocean heat into the atmosphere will keep it a little warmer. Also will be another month or two before the La Nina starts having an effect.

Reply to  AndyG55
January 2, 2018 8:27 am

The UAH global satellite temperature record indicates global temps for December are up, despite whatever influence imposed by the current minor La Nina state.

Reply to  David Oliver Smith
January 1, 2018 1:06 pm

He does need to keep driving it as an election issue before Dems outlaw trucks, lawnmowers, and pipelines.

Jeff Norman
January 1, 2018 10:47 am

I am curious about the “Still” in the title. Would the area covered have peaked by now and started to decline?

Reply to  Jeff Norman
January 1, 2018 11:14 am

The cycle of weather lags the sun-cycle by about 1 to 2 months, all in all. Historically, the greatest “depth of Winter” is usually 5 or so weeks following the Winter Solstice. Just as the peak of Summer is often 6 weeks behind its Solstice.

It turns out that the Earth’s surface has a pretty large heat capacity, and it takes awhile for it to catch up with the insolation cycle. Not a huge capacity (otherwise we’d have nowhere near the summer-winter temperature variation). But large enough.


Reply to  GoatGuy
January 1, 2018 12:16 pm

Insanely, that had never occurred to me. Yet I have known for decades that the UK has it’s coldest weather in mid/late January to the end of February, as I suppose most places with a similar climate do.

My entirely unscientific prediction has been that we’re in for a real cold snap in Jan/Feb 2018 in the UK that we haven’t seen since 2010 when it started in December in Kent (England) earlier elsewhere, and some places in NE Scotland had snow for almost 6 months.

But again, ‘almost’ completely unscientifically this time, I believe there is some evidence to suggest that the planet will begin to cool generally from 2019/2020. Not catastrophically of course, but enough to return us to winters of the 1950’s to late 70’s when skating on inland, freshwater Scottish Lochs was commonplace.

The Loch local to me in my youth of the early 70’s, The Gadloch in Lenzie, was frozen every year and provided entertainment for kids and adults alike, with ice hockey games of 20 or 30 aside, no boundaries, using field hockey sticks and golf clubs as the weapons of choice, and a suitable stone as a puck.

The match would go on for hours with people joining and leaving either team at will. Going home for lunch and returning to a one sided match, they would add their efforts to the losing side. 20 or 30 Vs 10 was not unusual until the game was, once again, balanced.

And not a referee in sight, although some officious twat always tried.

Those were the days!


Reply to  GoatGuy
January 2, 2018 2:57 am

Here I sit at the terminal. Fuel gelled and brakes frozen. Truck thermometer read -15 F when I turned the key. Waiting for the techs to come and warm the tanks. Then I’ll rock it as they beat on the brake drums. Four other drivers with the same problems ahead of me.

Filled the tanks with treated fuel and drained the water trap on the primary fuel filter then plugged it in to the block heater before I parked it on the 23rd. Nothing more I could do.

January 1, 2018 10:48 am

The most elegant refutation of global warming is when people look out their windows and they see snow and when they are shivering while waiting at the corner bus stop or while scraping the ice off their cars.

January 1, 2018 10:57 am

does snow cool earth due to albedo ?

Reply to  Stevek
January 1, 2018 11:02 am

yes, technically.
But usually it is during those seasons when insolation (incoming sunlight) is also at a deep-low ebb.
AKA “winter”

So while more sunlight reflects off to space, it seems mostly to cook the great (dark) winter north more, and to intensify the duration of cold spells.

The warmists tho’ should be veritably jumping with joy: the increased albedo, the deeper freeze(s), the longer winter, all add to the Arctic snow/ice cap. Which of course is causing penguins (sic) to die. And polar bears. And mooses, and squirrels, and woodchucks. (Channeling Monte Python)


January 1, 2018 10:59 am

When there’s a big thunderstorm: global warming.
When there’s a tornado: global warming.
When there’s a giant snow storm: global warming.
When there’s a 100 year record deep freeze: global warming.
When there’s a 100 year Mojave heat record: global warming.
When there’s the 13th killer typhoon in East Asia… global warming
When there’s a starving polar bear: global warming.
When there’s a calving ice shelf: global warming.
When oil prices go up: global warming.
When bitcoin goes down: global warming.

But when (as it happened) the global temperature record sat stagnant for what, 17 years?
Yes, even that too was global warming.

Welcome to 2018 where NOTHING is real, but everything is possible (and old Soviet saying).

Reply to  GoatGuy
January 1, 2018 12:37 pm


NOTHING escapes global warming. Except of course, no one has yet empirically demonstrated that CO2 causes the planet to warm. With apologies to David Middleton who pointed out to me there is one such study, other than the fake one, which measured temperatures from the lows of en La Ninia to the highs of an El Ninio. However, one single study, which I don’t see acknowledged anywhere other than by David (evidence of his scientific integrity) in over 40 years is hardly convincing.

And as far as I can gather, the only observable change caused by increased atmospheric CO2 is that the planet has greened by 14% in the last 30 years, according to NASA. I also read elsewhere that that greening is accompanies by a 20% increase in plant size which isn’t seen by satellites.

Which means, of course, that we can all enjoy more abundant food, but somehow that’s air brushed out of the alarmists narrative.

I enjoy being an optimist. Even if AGW is real, there are considerable benefits to it. Like New York and London submerge, and vast tracts of frozen Russia and Canada are released to agriculture.

Sadly, I suspect I’m to be disappointed as the planet begins to cool again.

Gunga Din
Reply to  GoatGuy
January 1, 2018 3:29 pm

Cause and Effect.
They know the Cause whatever its Effect.

Ill Tempered Klavier
Reply to  GoatGuy
January 1, 2018 9:06 pm

“Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.
It’s getting hard to be someone but it all works out. It doesn’t matter much to me…Strawberry Fields forever.”

January 1, 2018 11:09 am

they had already said all this cold and snow is caused by global warming?

January 1, 2018 11:10 am

Sure … however here in CA … Jerry Brown reminds that our “sinfulness” of self-driving our own automobiles has “caused” the (nearly) Driest December on RECORD!
Ohhhhhh mammmaaaa … moan the Global Warmists … no need to wait for the completion of our rainy season … it’s “obvious” that California’s “never-ending” DROUGHT has returned with a VENGENCE!! Repent sinners!! You are destroying our planet. You all must yield to the high priests of Warmism !! DO what they SAY!! And SAVE yourselves from the wrath of Gaia!!

Reply to  Kenji
January 1, 2018 11:39 am

Are you rehearsing for the role of the next Pachamama Popey?

Reply to  thomasjk
January 1, 2018 12:25 pm

Yes … I have signed-up for Al Gore’s proselytizer training camp … and I am being fitted for the vestments (aka the Bill Nye frumpy suit)

Reply to  thomasjk
January 1, 2018 1:58 pm

Meh. Californians won’t care, they’ll be too high, looking for munchies, soon.

F. Leghorn
Reply to  thomasjk
January 2, 2018 9:10 am

SMC on January 1, 2018 at 1:58 pm
Meh. Californians won’t care, they’ll be too high, looking for munchies, soon.

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

Robert B
Reply to  Kenji
January 1, 2018 5:05 pm

50 States in the US so a one in hundred year event for each weather phenomenon every two years. Every year if its only part of a state. Since every weather phenomenon is more extreme due to global warming, I estimate that a perfectly normal year could give you proof every month.

January 1, 2018 11:17 am

only 20 more years of global cooling coming up…
enjoy the snow!

Reply to  henryp
January 1, 2018 4:28 pm

Whilst I suspect that there will – as you say – be cooling – of a half degree, say – I, for one, would actually prefer no cooling, and even a modicum of warming, as that will lead to fewer old – or other vulnerable – folk dying.
Cooling, though, should destroy the watermelons’ nasty, world socialist government plot/conspiracy, sadly acquiesced to by several rather rightish folk [and organisations – much of the UK Tory party springs violently to mind . . . . . .].
Ends and means – a problem.

Bill Illis
January 1, 2018 11:18 am

For the people in the US mid-west and north-east, sorry you are staying in the deep freeze for another week and, some days, it will be even colder than now.

Reply to  Bill Illis
January 1, 2018 12:09 pm

Yes quite true,
lts the weaken state of the PJS over the NE Pacific that is helping to keep the blocking over America in place. So unless the PJS changes then this cold spell is unlikely to change.

Reply to  Bill Illis
January 1, 2018 2:05 pm

Yes, well, we’ll get along. We always do. I’m completely stocked, did all that ahead of the oncoming cold and snow, and don’t have to go outside except to feed the birds. But (if Accuweather can figure it out), we might have a break in the cold by next Wednesday and a return to upper 20s/mid-30s, which is fine with me. Not worried about it, Bill, been living with worse for 30 years. 🙂

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Bill Illis
January 2, 2018 6:00 am

We had our first snowfall on Christmas, only 1-3″. However, it was so cold that it lasted until this past weekend which added another 1″. Upcoming this Thursday is another 1-3″. High today: 25°F. Low in the past two weeks: 3.5°F. In freak’n NJ!!

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
January 5, 2018 2:00 pm

Well, that 1-3″ turned into 4-6″. Started today at a balmy 6.3°F.

January 1, 2018 11:22 am

A couple of days ago, as this cold wave continued and was forecast to persist over the northeastern U.S. for a while, a large newspaper in the northeast ran a story about it. However, there was a large portion of the article dedicated to reminding readers that, despite the current cold in some areas, most of the globe was not suffering from cold, there were indeed many areas where it was warmer than normal, and that climate change / global warming was occurring based on an increasing number of maximum temperature records, increasing number and severity of storms, etc. etc. I don’t recall if it was an AP story, another news service, or generated by in-house writers, but it’s extremely obvious that these liberal / left-wing/ progressive media outlets will continue with this propaganda, regardless of facts, changes, or history.

I think it should be quite apparent that this large-scale CAGW effort involving academia, the U.N., billionaire supporters, NGOs, and the media will persist for decades, regardless of de-funding by the U.S. and/or other governments, cooling trends, pushback from deplorables and hillbillies, and probably even definitive scientific evidence to the contrary. There is too much (in)vested interest to stop.

I personally believe it will take another LIA, which probably won’t occur for another century or century-and-a- half before it really takes hold, to put nails in the coffin on this bad-science-of the-millennium. How many trillions and trillions of dollars and euros that will be wasted until then is as unimaginable as it is unforgivable.

Reply to  4caster
January 1, 2018 1:40 pm

4caster: Why do you think that another LIA won’t occur for another century or century-and-a-half?

Reply to  4caster
January 1, 2018 2:53 pm

Yeah, I agree. We’ve been heading for a prolonged cold spell since 1985, maybe earlier. Check the sunspot count – zero to 1 or 2 smaller than the Earth. I’m waiting for Spring to find out how much snow will fall in the Atacama Desert this time, and how much will fall AND stick in the Sahra dunes in Algeria and Morocco. Will there be snow on the beaches of Brazil the way there was four years ago?
I am less and less concerned about what the CAGWers and Warmians think or say than I am about accurat weather forecasting.

January 1, 2018 11:59 am

What seems to be part of the cause of this cold spell is the way the PJS becomes much weaker over the mid Pacific and then splits and bends. With the jet in such weaken state there is little to push the current blocking pattern over N America out the way.

January 1, 2018 12:27 pm

In Alberta it’s finally starting to warm up today. Temperatures are suppose to return to normal as the week goes on. So it should start to warm up in the south as well.

Reply to  Rob
January 1, 2018 12:34 pm

Bugger, that usually means the UK will get colder in the next 10 days.

Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 1:06 pm


Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 3:18 pm

Reanalysis suggests southern UK will continue to be above average temperature over the next few days. Scotland and N Ireland slightly below average.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 4:05 pm

DWR54: why is the climatology from ’79-2000? That is too short a period for a baseline.

Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 4:12 pm

Steve Fraser,

That’s just the anomaly base line used by that reanalysis group. I agree that 30 years is the better baseline. That would certainly lower the baseline figure though.

The point is that, for the next few days at least, the southern UK is expected to be warmer than it would normally be at this time of year.

Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 4:26 pm

Also helps the “story” being that the late 1970s was the coldest period in 80 or more years.

The very bottom of the AMO cycle.

Bryan A
Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 5:28 pm

Ah yes, the ’70’s, when the “Next Ice Age” scare was in the mainstream and temperatures had dropped almost .5c from the prior decade. Yet another prime example of Climate Science De-Jour as reported by MSM.

Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 5:39 pm

You can see why there is so much red, just by looking at the AMO cycle.

Current AMO value is somewhere near the blue dot (just coming of the top of the AMO,)

The green shaded period (1980-2000) give a mean somewhere near the purple circle.

Adding the blue shaded period (1980 – 2010) , puts the mean around the red dot somewhere

Yes, still below current as expected from the cycle, …

…. but which period would you choose as a reference if you wanted to show “SCARY warm anomalies”
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John in Oz
January 1, 2018 12:34 pm

I wonder if NASA’s page on “What’s the Difference Between Weather and Climate?” will change due to the current ‘global warming’ the US is experiencing?

Today, children always hear stories from their parents and grandparents about how snow was always piled up to their waists as they trudged off to school. Children today in most areas of the country haven’t experienced those kinds of dreadful snow-packed winters,

Reply to  John in Oz
January 1, 2018 1:24 pm

nope….they will just say it local…and not global

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  John in Oz
January 1, 2018 2:18 pm

Was it ever true that children “in most areas of the country” experienced dreadful snow-packed winters?

Reply to  John in Oz
January 2, 2018 3:38 pm

Snow-up-to-your-waist when you are three years old is only up-to-your-knee when you are twenty years old. Therefore every generation remembers “deeper snow, back when I was a kid.”

It is for this reason scientists invented a less subjective thing called “measuring.”

It is also for this reason that Hanson has wasted so much tax-payer money “adjusting” the measurements.

Alarmists seem to prefer subjectivity to objectivity. Fine and dandy, if you are an artist or a home-team sports reporter, but not so smart, if you care about the Truth.

January 1, 2018 12:36 pm

Global Warming! Bahahahahaha!!!!

January 1, 2018 12:44 pm

Minus 27C in Calgary earlier this morning, but warming rapidly as the polar vortex shifts slightly east. Already a balmy minus 16 at noon. Still very cold further East.

Justin Trudeau blames global warming. Seriously!

Actually, I blame Justin Trudeau. It’s all his fault! … and Kathleen Wynn … and Rachel Notley, who is a wannabe Easterner at heart.

As the late great Ralph Klein said, “Let the Eastern Bastards freeze in the dark!” Ralph may get his wish – now that Kathleen and her predecessor Doltan McGuinty have crippled Ontario Hydro with intermittent wind and solar power schemes, which produce little useful energy, especially when you really need it.

The same fate will befall Britain and Germany, where the elderly and poor are already suffering under the “Heat or Eat” fiasco due to exorbitant electricity costs – the result of imbecilic green energy policies that are not green and produce no dispatchable energy.

In summary:

Politicians in Western Europe and North America have compromised our energy systems by spending tens of trillions of dollars on intermittent green energy schemes that are not green and produce little useful energy. I predicted in 2002 that global cooling would re-commence starting about 2020 to 2030. Even if global cooling is not imminent, the forced introduction of expensive, intermittent, non-dispatchable “green” power into the grid is a foolish, costly and dangerous error. This has been my primary message since 2002, and I see no reason to change it now.

Happy New Year to all!

Crispin in Waterloo
January 1, 2018 1:12 pm

Allen Mac

Good to hear you are getting some relief. In Waterloo we set another record for cold (-24) for the date and it will be -25 or lower on Friday. We are far to the south of you. With the wind chill we have -30 or better for the next few days.

It is kind of hard on the horses. Even the 800 kg Percherons are in blankets. This is Mennonite country. The cold must be caused by all that methane.

We are however, surrounded by lots of windmills. Too bad the wind speed is so low. Maybe the wind chill would be worse without them.

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 1, 2018 2:28 pm

HI Crispin and welcome back to cold Canada!

My Uncle Donald Fraser MacRae was somehow involved in the founding of University of Waterloo, perhaps in a minor way. He told me about it over lunch at the faculty club there, although I had to pry it out of him – you see, we were both graduates of Queen’s.

You may find the following of interest. Below is a document that just came to light – my Uncle Don’s official report written five days after the disastrous raid at Dieppe in 1942 – he was the only surviving officer of the Essex Scottish at Dieppe and rescued many of the Essex enlisted men who made it off the beach. They were all wounded – my uncle with shrapnel in the hip and jaw, the others more severely.

Coincidentally, I just found out that my friend Jim’s dad piloted one of the landing craft at Dieppe – below is his story as well.

Our fathers were the Great Generation, who suffered through the Great Depression, won World War 2 and then won the Peace.

Can you imagine the current crop of ultra-delicate “snowflakes”, who take great offence at the slightest slight (real or imaginary), interacting with the veterans and civilians who survived the horrors of WW2? I think it would be a very short conversation. 🙂

Happy New Year to all!

Best, Allan MacRae

My friend Jim ’s Footnotes:

My father, although a civilian, was commandeered from the Merchant Navy to take charge of one of the landing craft ferrying troops to shore and to stand by during the assault to take off casualties.

Allan’s comments to Jim:

Hi Jim.

Your Dad was a brave man. Dieppe was a slaughterhouse, as was the withdrawal off the beach.

In the meantime, you may be interested in the attached military records – my Uncle Donald Fraser MacRae was the only surviving officer of his unit at Dieppe – only about 5% of his unit made it back to England, and he rescued many of them and was awarded the Military Cross. Wounded twice, Uncle Don loaded about ten severely wounded men into a small boat and pushed it two miles out into the English Channel, where he was picked up by a Canadian destroyer.

In my opinion, his report (written only five days after the raid) is a generous tribute to the Essex Scottish, who were essentially eradicated at Dieppe. Of the 553 Essex officers and men who landed at Dieppe, 530 were killed, wounded or taken prisoner. Uncle Don was actually seconded to the Essex Scottish (of Windsor, Ontario) from our home county regiment, the Stormont Dundas & Glengarry Highlanders of Eastern Ontario.

Best personal regards, Allan

Monday, 24th August, 1942


The task of the Essex Scottish in the raid at Dieppe was first to clear enemy out of the town to enable engineers and specialists to get to work. A Coy was to clear the East end of the town and to seize German craft in the East end of the inner harbour. D Coy was to clear the centre portion of the town including German troop billets, then seize German craft in the West end of the inner harbour, then to capture the German naval and military headquarters. B Coy were to clear a portion at the West end of the town and drive up through to a defensive position at the Racetrack, where they were to liaise with the R.H.L.I. C Coy were to work through to beyond the town and then go through to beyond the town and then go forward with the tanks to objectives further inland. A special force under Lieut. Hunter was to follow to mop up the buildings in the town after the rifle companies had gone through. Another special task force was to provide protection for our Bde. A and D Coys were then to swing the left to seize the high ground and the AA Gun positions. Then these two Coys were to take up defensive positions defending the bridgehead from the South and East, liaising with the Royal Regiment of Canada,

The Rifle Coys were to touch down on the beach at 0520 hours. The loaded assault craft were loaded away from the mother ships about two hours before they were due to touch down on the beach. The first hour of the journey in to shore was quiet and uneventful. At about four-thirty some of our aircraft began attacking and within a few minutes we were being fired upon. It was then light enough to see a little bit and while everyone kept their heads down in the assault craft, we were able to see some of the earlier air battles and some of our bombers diving in to attack shore targets. As we continued to move in, visibility grew better and we came under fire from the shore weapons about five o-clock. The intensity of the fire increased and shells and long range mortar bombs were bursting in the sea among the advancing craft. Some of the craft were hit and sunk but the majority of them were able to carry on. There was no hesitation. Flotillas retained their formation, and despite the heavy fire, the assault wave of craft touched down on the beach at 0505 hours.

Immediately, the troops disembarked and ran up the shingle on the beach, where they were held up by the first row of barbed wire. They started to cross this immediately, some cutting a pathway through the wire while others threw themselves down to crush the wire down and so enable the others to get through. The casualties were not very heavy at the first wire and the bulk of the troops were able to take cover in the shingle while wire parties went on to cut the second fence of concertina wire. By this time the enemy had been shelling the beach very heavily with what seemed to be field artillery and heavy mortar. These immediately caused several casualties which were attended to as far as possible by stretcher-bearers and uninjured troops. By this time the second wire had been breached and a large portion of the troops had reached the sea wall. The enemy’s shelling increased in intensity and in addition the beach was swept by machine-gun and rifle fire. The mortar detachment fired on their objectives until destroyed by shell-fire.

Everywhere the troops were marvelously cool and there was not the slightest evidence of fear. The men continually pressed forward fighting all the time and words are inadequate to pay proper tribute to the excellence of these officers and men. Unless they were so badly wounded that they could not carry on, all ranks fought stubbornly in spite of their wounds.

Some tanks came ashore and fought most heroically to assist the infantry to get on. The troops were not able to accomplish all their objectives but did succeed in destroying the waterfront defences and set the Tobacco Factory on fire. Some of the troops eventually did get through the Western edge of the town, where they destroyed some enemy troops and defence positions.

The withdrawal was ordered to commence at eleven o’clock and the remnants of the troops were moved back to the water’s edge. The enemy then put on an increased attack of shelling and dive bombing causing many new casualties. A considerable number of craft came in to take the troops off. But several of them were hit and destroyed, and a small number only of the Essex Scottish got safely away.

The Naval and Air support throughout the day was magnificent, both doing everything in their power to assist and both completely fearless in the audacity of their efforts, Despite the heavy losses, I believe the defences of Dieppe were broken, and that the door had been opened to the eventual liberation of captive Europe. The Essex Scottish Regiment paid a very high price, but I am now sure that their effort was not in vain. Every officer and man who has henceforth the privilege of belonging to the Essex Scottish and wearing the badge which says “SEMPER PARATUS”, will fill with pride at the exploits of that gallant company of gentlemen who made the daring assault on Dieppe on the 19th of August 1942.

(Sgd.) D.F. MacRae, Captain
S.D. & G, Highrs.,
Attached Essex Scottish Regt.
24th August 1942.

Bob boder
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 2, 2018 10:20 am


Amazing stuff, Dieppe was the proving ground for Overlord and your are absolutely correct in naming that generation the great generation, not enough can be said for their toughness and their fairness. No other time in the history of the world did such a large group of people go to war to bring freedom to so many with no thought of conquest. Name another time in the history of the world where foes were defeated so completely and yet in the end where treated so fairly and given freedom and and dignity as the end result of their aggression. Never is the answer, with the possible exception of the American civil war. the Greatness of the American and British people of that time should never be forgotten.

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 2, 2018 10:30 am

Nice colored pictures Toneb, but the world is NOT particularly warm right now. It is cooling sharply.

Global Lower Troposphere (LT) temperatures can be accurately predicted ~4 months in the future using the Nino34 temperature anomaly, and ~6 months using the Equatorial Upper Ocean temperature anomaly.

The atmospheric cooling I predicted (4 months in advance) using the Nino34 anomaly has started to materialize in November 2017 – with more cooling to follow. I expect the UAH LT temperature anomaly to decline further to ~0.0C in the next few months.

Year Month Nino34 Anom dC
2017 6 0.55
2017 7 0.39
2017 8 -0.15
2017 9 -0.43
2017 10 -0.46
2017 11 -0.86

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 2, 2018 1:07 pm

I suppose you could use 1970-1990 instead.. and really catch the whole bottom of the AMO.

They have certainly used the coldest possible period of the satellite data period as their reference.

And in basically every REAL NH data set, around 1979 is the COLDEST year in 80+ years.

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 2, 2018 1:15 pm

Lets have a look at say Reykjavik temperatures.

You could probably choose a colder 20 year reference period, if you tried really hard !!
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Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 2, 2018 2:53 pm

“Lets have a look at say Reykjavik temperatures.
You could probably choose a colder 20 year reference period, if you tried really hard !!”

As I keep pointing out the clue is the “G” in “AGW”
And Reykjavik hardly equates to that.

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 4, 2018 6:02 am

Bob Boder

Thank you for your comments re the “Great Generation”.

The Marshall Plan that supported the rebuilding of Germany and Western Europe was one of the most generous and enlightened acts in human history.

I have some older friends who were children in Germany at the end of WW2, and they told me stories of being hungry and deprived – and in some cases horrific stores of fleeing ahead of the Russian troops invading from the East, One woman told me how her family left her dead young sister on a bench at a train station, because they had no practical alternative. The Marshall Plan helped to ease their suffering.

Compare that strong, competent and unselfish Great Generation to the “snowflakes” of today, who take great offence at the slightest slight. Frankly I have little tolerance for these infantile screamers, who should just toughen up and grow up. They are so utterly devoid of life experience and so self-obsessed and narcissistic that they are unlikely to ever contribute to anything except their own Facebook pages.

There are some great kids in this generation, who will continue to build our society, but it won’t be the “snowflakes”, who will simply be a continued liability.

The problem with false alarms like global warming hysteria is that it recruits its minions from the snowflake generation, who can easily be stampeded for political gain. Politicians understand this game, and play it to their advantage, stampeding the sheeple with false fears and then offering safety and absolution.

Best personal regards, Allan

January 1, 2018 3:50 pm


I predicted in 2002 that global cooling would re-commence starting about 2020 to 2030.

You also predicted back in 2008 that because “..the PDO turned cold again…we can expect several decades of naturally-caused global cooling.”

Yet here we are in 2018, around 10 years after that confident ‘prediction’, and every global temperature data set we have, whether surface or satellite, shows continued warming, with record hot temperatures being broken in every one of them.

The record suggests that you’re not very good at these predictions Allan. Why would anyone in their right mind believe you might be right this time?

Reply to  DWR54
January 1, 2018 4:59 pm

dwr54 aka wd40 the slippery one:

You keep pounding the same dumb drum. In fact it is the global warming alarmists who have the utterly dismal predictive track record – every one of their very-scary predictions has failed to materialize.

We wrote in 2002 that catastrophic humanmade global warming was a false crisis – that is now proven fact among the scientifically competent.

We also wrote in 2002 that the “green energy” schemes proposed by global warming alarmists would not be economic or practical. That is also proven fact among energy experts.

When global cooling actually starts (assuming it does), that timing will be debated for many years AFTER cooling commences. Some highly competent scientists believe it already has started. I had a long phone call with a highly competent meteorologist yesterday, and he suggested that early signs of global cooling were already apparent.

Reply to  DWR54
January 1, 2018 5:08 pm

DWR54 seems to have missed the entire thread about how cold is.

Very typical about the global warmers. They don’t even have winter jackets or gloves or long pants or a furnace. They spend the whole winter with a body temperature well below normal thinking it is so warm outside and inside because of CO2.

Reply to  DWR54
January 1, 2018 8:03 pm

NASA called the shift into a PDO cool phase in 2008. It was cold for a few years and then the PDO turned positive again. Here is the latest, FYI.
“The Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) index value for 2016 (annual mean) was +1.3. Negative values were generally observed from around 2000 to the early 2010s, and positive values have been recorded since 2014.”

Here is the plot of the PDO data:

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 1:09 am

“DWR54 seems to have missed the entire thread about how cold is.”

Except that it isn’t averaged over the NH.
That’s the point I think he is making and I have on other threads on the subject.
I know that you Guys think the world revolves around the good ol’ US of A but it’s 4% of the Globe and the west is anomalously warm anyway.

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 2:42 am

Using a baseline period right at the bottom the AMO.

Good way to make things red…. and meaningless.

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 2:42 am

I should have said “anomalously less cold” of course for the frigid parts such as Siberia.

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 2:43 am

“Good way to make things red…. and meaningless.”

If you say so.

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 3:33 am

You still don’t comprehend basic maths.

Your comments say so.

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 3:35 am

If you set the base period at the coldest period in 80 or so years, of course the anomaly is more likely to be positive.

Look at the AMO chart above, take off your blinkers, and do at least TRY to understand. !!

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 4:20 am


dwr54 aka wd40 the slippery one… You keep pounding the same dumb drum.

Maybe that’s because you never address the point being made. Namely, you have a decades-long track record of making ‘global cooling’ predictions, every one of which, to date, has failed miserably. In fact, the exact opposite of what you predicted has occurred. You never address this. Never take ownership of your past failures. Your only response is to lash out at predictions you say other people have made, without ever offering any concrete examples. If the drum beat goes on it’s only because it’s perpetuated by you.

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 12:33 pm

“If you set the base period at the coldest period in 80 or so years, of course the anomaly is more likely to be positive.”

But it wsn’t was it … and that’s not the point anyway.
I merely posted those charts to bring home the fact that what is happening in your back-yard is not a measure of the reality in the NH.
The baseline is irrelevant to the fact that the US (apart from the west) and Canada have a very cold spell currently. Nowhere else has.

1979-2000 certainly was not the “coldest period in 80 or so years”…
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Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 12:36 pm

Nice colored pictures Toneb, but the world is NOT particularly warm right now. It is cooling sharply.

Global Lower Troposphere (LT) temperatures can be accurately predicted ~4 months in the future using the Nino34 temperature anomaly, and ~6 months using the Equatorial Upper Ocean temperature anomaly.

The atmospheric cooling I predicted (4 months in advance) using the Nino34 anomaly has started to materialize in November 2017 – with more cooling to follow. I expect the UAH LT temperature anomaly to decline further to ~0.0C in the next few months.

Year Month Nino34 Anom dC
2017 6 0.55
2017 7 0.39
2017 8 -0.15
2017 9 -0.43
2017 10 -0.46
2017 11 -0.86

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 12:50 pm

1979-2000 certainly was not the “coldest period in 80 or so years”…

Come off it Tone.

Using the massively adjusted and quite probably frordulent GISS family of data. (misspell intentional)

Where, by their very own words, they DELIBERATELY squash the 1940s peak.

You are sinking to the bottom of the propaganda bucket now. !!

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 2:46 pm

“Using the massively adjusted and quite probably frordulent GISS family of data. (misspell intentional)”

Except there is JMA and Hadcrut alongside GISS – and they all say the same thing.
That the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s were colder.
Certainly not the 80’s/90’s … which, as I said is irrelevant to my point.
That onlt parts of the US and Canad are experiencing anything anomalously cold.
But then again it’s all a UN led socialist conspiracy (sarc)

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 2:51 pm

“Nice colored pictures Toneb, but the world is NOT particularly warm right now. It is cooling sharply.”

That wasn’t my point – but not really, no…..

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 4:06 pm


I am glad to see Europe is getting a break, but fear it may not last. While the USA will suffer ten days and then get a break we call a “January Thaw”, Europe has Mordor to the east, and needs to be wary of invading orcs of ice in ten days:
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Reply to  DWR54
January 7, 2018 9:59 am

DWR54 aka WD40

Every dire prediction made by the global warming alarmists has failed to materialize – they have a perfectly negative predictive track record and nobody should believe them.

The warmists’ two main claims are:
1. Runaway Catastrophic Global Warming – NOT happening – see Christy and McNider 1994 and 2017
2. Weather weirding – NOT happening – Hurricanes and Tornadoes have actually declined in past decades.

You demanded evidence, without (as usual) adding any evidence of your own, just your usual BS.

Suggest you watch this video – bring popcorn.

January 2, 2018 12:17 pm

‘..As the late great Ralph Klein said, “Let the Eastern Bastards freeze in the dark!”’.

Dunno about the “great ” part.

I remember him saying (later, as Premier of Alberta) “shoot, shovel, and shut up”, when an (apparently) misguided Alberta farmer reported a cow with BSE – arguably a criminal offense (Criminal Code of Canada, Section 464 – counseling an offense not committed). How great is that?

As for wasting money on green energy – Ontario Hydro wasted far more money on nuclear energy before switching to something more popular.

My thermometer read -29C this morning here in the Eastern Townships of Quebec.

Happy New Year to you!

Reply to  otropogo
January 2, 2018 5:56 pm

Too many red herrings about Ralph, Ostro.

I wrote an article in the Calgary Herald about Ralph’s greatest failure, which was the botched deregulation of electricity in Alberta. His other major failure was the destruction of one Calgary hospital and the discounted sale of another.

Other than that, Ralph did a great job. When he messed up, he openly admitted it, and fixed it.

And as Mayor of Calgary, Ralph was always available after work, to chat over a beer at the Chateau Louis. No other politician was so approachable, and so well liked.

January 2, 2018 7:48 pm

“…Ralph did a great job. When he messed up, he openly admitted it, and fixed it.”

Don’t remember that..

“And as Mayor of Calgary, Ralph was always available after work, to chat over a beer at the Chateau Louis.”

‘birds of a feather”… I never liked the look of the St. Louis and never set foot in it. And I wasn’t the only Calgarian that felt that way.

“No other politician was so approachable, and so well liked.”

Well, maybe among the St. Louis regulars. Is calling his LRT project “Little Ralph’s Train” a sign of affection? When did he fix that?

For the leader of a provincial government to deliberately undermine public safety by encouraging the obstruction of epidemiologists isn’t a red herring. And I’m sure it didn’t shorten the import ban the US imposed on Alberta beef.

Reply to  otropogo
January 3, 2018 3:58 am

You seem to be really upset about Ralph’s BSE comment Ostro. Sorry ’bout that. But it was immaterial – it did not have any impact.

And although I did not frequent the Louis, I never saw any trouble there. It was “old Calgary”, Ralph’s unofficial Office of the Mayor, and also the headquarters of the Calgary East Petroleum Club, where oilmen would routinely buy homeless guys a meal and a beer.

Hope it warms up for you in Les Cantons de L’Est. I grew up near there and have fond memories of summers at the lakes.

My best regards and a Happy New Year to Georgeville, North Hatley, Fitch Bay, Magog and all.

January 3, 2018 11:33 am

“You seem to be really upset about Ralph’s BSE comment Ostro…”

Not upset, but ashamed that my country not only tolerates but applauds such behavior in its leaders. You could say that Ralph was a mini-Trump.

“Hope it warms up for you in Les Cantons de L’Est. I grew up near there and have fond memories of summers at the lakes.”

The Townships are now the major Lyme vector in Quebec, with last year’s infections up significantly from the year before. Neighbouring Vermont is even worse, I hear. So you enjoyed them in better times.

“My best regards and a Happy New Year to Georgeville, North Hatley, Fitch Bay, Magog and all.”

And mine to Calgary, Pincher, Canmore, Banff, the Columbia Valley, and of course “Hudson” of “Heartland”
fame (which I understand is actually filmed in Millarville). “Where’s Longview Scotty?” – remember that ad?

Keep an eye on the sour gas wells encircling Calgary. If they blow, it’s every man for himself…

Reply to  otropogo
January 3, 2018 8:23 pm

Ostro – I am much more embarrassed Jean Chretien, Pierre and Justin Trudeau, Doltan McGuinty and Kathleen Wynn, Rachel Notley and all the other scoundrels and imbeciles who have been elected in Canada.

Re your mention of the sour gas wells near Calgary; coincidentally, I recently took care of the SE Quadrant – here is the story:


As an uninvolved citizen and a Professional Engineer, I was advised in May 2016 of an extremely dangerous situation. Following the Professional Engineers’ Code of Ethics, I investigated, established the facts and reported to the Alberta Energy Regulator (AER). This situation was then made safe by the AER.

The risk to the public was enormous – tens of thousands of Calgarians could have been killed.

This action by the AER (formerly the ERCB) is the most severe reprimand against any company in the history of the Alberta energy industry.

Best regards, Allan MacRae. P.Eng.

Public Documents:

High River Times, August 27, 2016

Calgary Herald, March 21, 2017

CBC, April 24, 2017

Calgary Herald. July 10, 2017

January 4, 2018 8:33 pm

I applaud your successful prodding of the AER while noting that there’s nothing to indicate the Ralph Klein would ever have done anything of the sort, even though as Mayor and later, Premier, it would have been much easier for him. As for the politicians you hold in low esteem, I can’t disagree.

The only two Canadian political leaders that I have ever found reason to have a (somewhat grudging) respect for were John Diefenbaker, for his dogged opposition to capital punishment on strictly ethical grounds (it’s better that ten guilty men go free, then that one innocent man be punished), and Tommy Douglas, who stood almost alone against the declaration of Martial Law under Trudeau Senior (the “Dief” caved in on that one), calling it “Black Friday” in the Commons. Both men were broken by the system, but they showed some heart and paid dearly for it. Ralph was just another pig at the trough.

Reply to  otropogo
January 5, 2018 10:27 am

Hello Ostro,

I’m 70 years of age and have done (up to) multi-billion-dollar business on six continents, including the Americas, the Arab world and the Former Soviet Union.

I’ve also successfully managed two armed hostage crises in the FSU without bloodshed, where my people were held at gunpoint – I rejected pressure to bring in the police and/or the army and everyone got to go home safely – even the bad guys. I’ve also been through too many armed checkpoints manned by border guards, police, and others, and still do not enjoy the experience.

So let’s say I have an alternative perspective from you on life, having been differently “calibrated”.

You apparently want idealistic perfection, binary zero’s and one’s, where people are “good” or “bad” – but the world does not work that way.

Let me tell you a story to illustrate my point.

We were in Tunis during the “hot war” next door in Libya, and our hotel was full of Libyan families who were fleeing the fighting. Our downstairs neighbour went back to Libya and got himself killed, leaving behind his wife and a bunch of beautiful kids. The Libyans were good people, and their screaming, crying and ululating were heartbreaking, as they mourned.

“Arab Spring” started in Tunisia, and the old President had been thrown out and everyone was full of hope for a better future. I tried to explain to some of our friends in Tunis that “In politics, you don’t get to choose between ‘good and bad’, you get to choose between ‘bad and worse’.“ and I projected that the new rulers in the Arab world would be worse than the old ones, and the people would be worse off. That has turned out to be true in most if not all Arab countries that changed their regimes. I also said that the “better” rulers would leave easily, rather than tear down their countries in violence, and the “worse” ones would destroy their countries with internal strife. That has also proven correct – the leaders of Tunis and Egypt left easily, whereas those of Libya and others caused their countries to be torn apart.

So while I am personally idealistic, I look at life a bit more gently than you do, and tend to forgive minor transgressions by politicians IF they improve the lives of their people. I find bribery and corruption of politicians repugnant, but it is so widespread that it is the norm rather than the exception.

I also find that the “political left” are utterly indifferent to the truth, such that any falsehood is justified if it serves their cause. Global warming alarmism is such a false cause, and anyone who publicly subscribes to it is a scoundrel or an imbecile – finally, I will note that in this case, the two terms are not mutually exclusive.

Regards, Allan

Post script

Carved in stone at the new Calgary Courthouse is the statement:

– John Diefenbaker

Reply to  otropogo
January 5, 2018 10:41 am


Just wanted to interject and say great post. This is a good reminder that the real world will never conform to our ideals.. But… that doesn’t mean we have to forgo them (the ideals), merely temper them in the forge of reality.


January 1, 2018 12:56 pm

My daughter was in Calgary on business exactly a month ago and she complained it wasn’t cold enough. Two days later she was in Yellowknife, that was a bit colder, but when ended in Gahcho Kué at -25C she was happy, since she could use all of her Arctic clothing purchased at some expense.
happy new year

January 1, 2018 1:40 pm

It’s still nowhere near enough snow in Edward Markey’s state. Bury the buggers under 500 feet of snow and no one would miss them.

Reply to  Resourceguy
January 1, 2018 2:01 pm

Massachusetts matters?

Bruce Cobb
January 1, 2018 1:45 pm

Here in New Hampshire, we are having an extended wave of arctic cold, in addition to the snow cover of perhaps 1 foot or so. The arctic cold will let up a couple days this week (20’s – yay), only to be replaced by even more extreme cold later this week. This is so not usual, folks. A portent of things to come? Stay tuned.

January 1, 2018 1:52 pm

ALASKA ==> Is about 90+% snowcovered on Dec 25 — see — so that would make Continental USA at least 50% snow-covered for Christmas.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
January 1, 2018 1:57 pm

You’ll get a much bigger number if you use North America….

January 1, 2018 1:56 pm

Finally going to warm up to “normal” this week

John Robertson
January 1, 2018 1:59 pm

Global warming.
This year we measure it in feet not inches.
I am hard pressed to choose the best theme music for CAGW.2018;
.Oh Susanna?
Or Frank Zappa;”Don’t you eat the yellow snow..”

Reply to  John Robertson
January 1, 2018 3:37 pm

The US has been considerably warmer than average during 2017 according to both NCDC (NOAA) and UAH satellite data. Indeed, UAH suggests that, up to November at least, the US lower 48 states have seen the warmest year on record since 1979, just ahead of 2015.

Are we seriously suggesting that a week or two of anomalously low temperatures across about a half of the US48 signals the end of global warming? It will hardly even make a dent in the US48 2017 final value.

A C Osborn
Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 4:23 am

Do you actually believe that this is the only cold period that there has been in the US in 2017?
It is only different in it’s extent.
It is not only the USA that is cold, there have been cold records being broken on every continent since October.
At the moment it is just weather, but if it continues it will indicate a change in Climate and it won’t be pretty.

Matt Bergin
Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 4:43 am

Warmth through adjustment. Adjusted garbage piled on more adjusted garbage. Bovine excrement all of it.

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 12:40 pm

“year on record since 1979”

Again the use of the COLDEST period in 80+ years. The very bottom of the AMO.

Why not compare to real data from say the late 1930s early 1940s?

Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 12:42 pm

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Reply to  DWR54
January 2, 2018 3:50 pm

The US has been warmer than average during 2017? Is that right, DWR54?

Tell me, just WHERE has that happened? I keep track of temperatures. I live in an area that is subject to heat waves. 2017 was HARDLY the warmest year, and certain NOT warmer than average, and I have the records to prove it, SPORT!

In FACT, 2017 was so chilly that I had the furnace running until the beginning of June, something I haven’t had to do before. AND I have DATED photos of snow that fell in my yard and on my front steps in APRIL AND MAY.

Your charts and graphs can’t hold a candle to some of the stuff I have, which is hard evidence, you know.

Brett Keane
Reply to  DWR54
January 4, 2018 1:34 pm

DWR54 and your ilk should stop your repetition of deceptions. There has been NO significant change in global means of temperature for about 20yrs. That means the measurement error exceeds any changes. Go repeat your tripe on any surviving warmista site, if you can find one. Or add some scientific input to the discussion if you can, not mindless boring untruths as the Quiet Sun takes us on an unfamiliar journey. It will be interesting, if uncomfortable….

Reply to  DWR54
January 5, 2018 10:40 am

Brett Keane, thank you for your comment.

DWR54 (aka WD40) is a troll, a deceiver, and knows he is one.

For example, 2017 was warm because it was affected by the huge El Nino that peaked in 2016, and the atmosphere is still cooling from that event, and should continue to cool based on Sea Surface Temperatures.

Wait and watch 2018 temperatures. Predictive details are included elsewhere on this thread.

Best, Allan

January 1, 2018 2:22 pm

imoira, the Warm Period – Cold Period cycle seems to be about 600-700 years long. So, an individual Warm Period or Cold Period, or half cycle, would be about 300 years (plus or minus for variability’s sake). The “end” of the last Cold Period, the LIA, seems to be agreed upon to be about 1850. So, we’ve been in our current Modern Warm Period about 150 years or so, and we may have another 100 or 150 years before the next Cold Period – the NLIA? Next Little Ice Age? – asserts itself.

My own little research says that the less dominant 60-70 year cycle modulates the more dominant longer period cycle(s), so the cool about-35 year period we entered around 2010 will only slightly modulate the more dominant 600 year cycle. So we shouldn’t expect it to get much cooler in the next 25-30 years, but perhaps it will go part of the way to where the previous 1940-1975 cool period was. (This winter is sure starting out to resemble a few of the winters in the late 1950s-1960s.) The reason we may not get too much cooler (a la 1940-75) is because we may be at almost to the maximum extent or zenith of natural warming for this Modern Warm Period. It might get even a little warmer than present in the 2045-2080 period when the warm part of the about-70 year cycle kicks in and (going out on a limb here) superimposingly adds to the warming. This could give the alarmists renewed ammunition, if the CAGW idea hasn’t fallen apart by then.

I have an idea about why the sunspot cycle might be involved in these cycles, but it wasn’t commented upon when I posited it here previously, so I’ll leave that for another time.

Should I ask NASA, NOAA, or the NSF for a grant to study this? sarc/

Reply to  4caster
January 1, 2018 4:25 pm


The “end” of the last Cold Period, the LIA, seems to be agreed upon to be about 1850. So, we’ve been in our current Modern Warm Period about 150 years or so…

Not borne out by the evidence though. The UK Met Office/Hadley global series runs from 1850 ad there is no warming trend at all between 1850 and the 1930s. In fact it cooled during that period.

Reply to  4caster
January 1, 2018 4:46 pm


Of course ask for a grant.
You might even get one – but if all it takes is an hour or five of yoir time – Go For It.

lots of folk do.


Reply to  Auto
January 1, 2018 5:43 pm

I hear France is giving out grants.

Reply to  Auto
January 1, 2018 7:06 pm

The first “climate ” refugees 🙂

Steve Oregon
January 1, 2018 3:25 pm

Looks like the other side of the northern hemisphere is well covered too.

Extreme Hiatus
January 1, 2018 3:26 pm

This map is not accurate. There are now Snowflakes all across the country and concentrated in urban areas and in California.

Reply to  Extreme Hiatus
January 1, 2018 5:42 pm

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Reply to  Extreme Hiatus
January 2, 2018 8:21 am

Looks like they may be forming a blizzard, then an avalanche though !

Reply to  Gareth
January 2, 2018 12:44 pm

They had HUGE snowflake avalanches in Washington and NY, just after Trump was elected. !

Extreme Hiatus
January 1, 2018 3:28 pm

“At what stage did the message change to a warmer world will be a more snowy world?”

That happened when it snowed.

Mario Lento
Reply to  Extreme Hiatus
January 1, 2018 9:09 pm


R.S. Brown
January 1, 2018 3:38 pm

…that would be the Sanity Clause.

Michael Jankowski
January 1, 2018 4:05 pm

Well before that, I remember a trek towards the North Pole to highlight global warming that had to be cancelled due to extremely cold weather. One of the scientists had the gall to say that it was not ironic at all because extreme weather events were predicted to increase due to global warming.

Reply to  Michael Jankowski
January 1, 2018 4:44 pm

And wasn’t there the Ship of Extremely-well Believing Professors [Fanatically-Over-Observing-Lingams is unfair.] that was investigating warming seas off the Antarctic, a couple or three years ago – and got stuck in the Ice, and couldn’t get out.
‘Aurora Australis’ and – at least – one other ship tried to get them out. Not easy

All weather, of course.
Of – blindingly bleedingly obvious – course!


January 1, 2018 4:14 pm

Weather, not climate.

Knowledgeable Citizen
January 1, 2018 5:06 pm

It is amazing how many outlets missed this winter so badly. Everything I have learned about the recurring cycle from a blog called Texas Storm Watch ( pointed toward a colder winter. This is what happens when everyone just relies on La Nina or El Nino for their forecasts.

January 1, 2018 5:06 pm

My grandfather had a saying every Christmas…”As the days begin to lengthen, the cold begins to strengthen”.

I just spent Christmas in the Siberia of the prairies, (Saskatchewan) and what was exacerbated this time was the bitter windchills down into the mid -50’s. Very dangerous to be caught out in that. I also remember colder winters and lows in the mid -40’s throughout the 1950’s to late 1970’s, so this is just a return to what was commonplace for centuries there.

I just arrived in the Philippines for a tropical get away, and while I hate the cold, I am not much on 100% humidity and +30 temps either. But I will take this over the cold, especially this time of year. Tropical Depression Agaton just blew thru last night and while a bit of an inconvenience for the area, we should all remember this is just normal every day weather, including the cold up north.

January 1, 2018 5:42 pm

DWR54: Actually, that would fit somewhat well with my perceived pattern, as the circa 35 year cooling period from 1870-1905 would partially or perhaps completely offset any warming(negatively superpose) in a slow recovery in temperature as the LIA segued to the Modern Warm Period. There certainly was at least significant U.S. warming and apparently global warming in the latter portion of the 1905-1940 half-cycle.

I term that 60-70 year cycle the Ludlum cycle, after the renowned (and late) David Ludlum. The 30-35 year half-cycle is comprised of 3 sunspot cycles, and I wonder if three sunspot cycles could affect the global atmosphere by having an alternate dominance of polarity. Could one 3-sunspot-cycle span, dominated by positive polarity (2 positives to 1 negative), be followed by another of negative dominance, and this have an effect on the upper atmosphere which then affects lower atmospheric flow patterns, and thus temperature? Who knows…but at least I am thinking!

January 1, 2018 6:27 pm

Meanwhile down under the doomsdayers are busy freezing tropical coral eggs to save you all from the global warmening-
Tis the gift giving season and they tell me it’s the thought that counts.

January 2, 2018 12:01 am

Here in Fort Myers this coming week we are expecting four nights in a row of lows in the mid 30s, and it appears we will be lucky to see 60 in the afternoon during that spell.
But it appears that after that, we will get a nice warmup, although forecasts a week out are subject to large error.
Looks to be the coldest stretch in many years in these parts.

January 2, 2018 1:18 am

It’s weird what is happening. It looks almost as if the Arctic and United States climate has been swapped. It’s almost as if there is something odd going on with the climate. Over here in the UK / Europe the weather is pretty much as normal, wind, rain and grey skies. I would imagine the weird and radical evangelists will soon be claiming that the good Lord is sending the US a message of some sort.

A C Osborn
Reply to  Gareth
January 2, 2018 4:32 am

Gareth, you obviously slept through the last week or so of weather in the UK and missed the Snow & freezing temperatures, or is just you live in an alternate universe?

Reply to  A C Osborn
January 2, 2018 8:20 am

Nope, the weather here has been wet and raining over Christmas and since, check the records. I think there was a light dusting of snow Christmas night and a few weeks before that, but not much. We are currently battened down for the latest storm (Eleanor) which is currently bearing down on us even as we speak. I’d like a bit of that cold weather they are experiencing in the US. At least it settles the storms down. Snow is generally much more fun than months of rain. Here are some records if you are interested in trends ( You are welcome !)

Reply to  Gareth
January 2, 2018 3:55 pm

They’re doomed, doomed I tell ya Gareth unless they repent and take the fizz out of their fizzy drinks. Gaia will punish them with no hot chocolate by the fire-

Bruce Cobb
January 2, 2018 5:41 am

If a period of cooling was beginning, this is probably how it would start.

January 2, 2018 6:46 am

When I was a child the snow always seemed to be up to my waist. Now it only reaches my knees wuwt.

January 2, 2018 8:02 am

Heck, it’s not the snow, it’s watching the Great Lakes flash freeze. 19.6% as of the 1st of 2018.

January 2, 2018 1:29 pm

Exactly 5 years ago a posted this on WUWT
(vukcevic January 3, 2013 at 10:29 am)
“The temperature anomaly known as the ‘Arctic amplification’, as depicted in the first illustration has an uncanny resemblance to the distribution of the Earth’s magnetic field”comment image
Is this a pure coincidence. Possible but unlikely?
Common cause Natural variability?”

Michael Darby
January 2, 2018 9:10 pm

Not only have the Queensland coal miners killed every polar bear on the Great Barrier Reef; they have now caused beavers to freeze to death across North America and caused panic buying of maple syrup.

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