Guest essay by Eric Worrall
According to Indian External Affairs minister Sushma Swaraj, the only way to save future generations in poor countries is to give them lots of money and free stuff.
Developed world must help less fortunate ones on climate change: Sushma Swaraj
UNITED NATIONS: External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj today said the challenge posed by climate change requires more “serious action than talk” and asked the leaders of the developed world to help the less fortunate ones through technology transfer and Green Climate Financing.
Arguing that countries like China and India are benefiting the most from the Paris Accord, President Donald Trump had said that the agreement on climate change was unfair to the US, as it badly hit its businesses and jobs.
Addressing the UN General Assembly (UNGA), Swaraj said that it was not just mere coincidence that the world has witnessed hurricanes, earthquakes, rains that inundate storms which terrify.
“Nature sent its warning to the world even before the world’s leadership gathered in New York at the United Nations through Harvey,” she said, adding that once the gathering of world leaders at the UNGA began, an earthquake struck Mexico and a hurricane landed in Dominica.
“We must understand, this requires more serious action than talk. The developed world must listen more carefully than others, because it has more capacities than others.
“It must help the less fortunate through technology transfer and Green Climate Financing – that is the only way to save future generations,” Swaraj said.
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All the developed nations from whom political apparatchiks like Sushma are demanding handouts once had a standard of living comparable to today’s third world. But today’s developed countries didn’t sit around waiting for handouts; they got off their butts, fixed defective political systems, overthrew corrupt politicians, developed their own technology and made their own money. That is the real lesson of today’s world.
That seems, prima facie, like a pretty frank admission that 3rd world countries are inhabited by people who aren’t capable of civilizing themselves or of advancing their general wealth and welfare.
While it might be an unpleasant conclusion, it’s hard to disagree with that diagnosis. The prescription, however, is another matter.
Ever notice how these countries always think the ‘world’ owes them something while their own millionaires and billionaires get a free pass…
In that case third world, goodbye.
Can not say you will be missed.
while their own millionaires and billionaires get a free pass…
The Green Climate Fund is required to be distributed to these very people, Indian millionaires and billionaires.
Common man of developed Nations will foot the bill for rich people of developing countries like India.
Absolute nonsense. The West has already provided critical western know how to India through colonial investments in technology and extensive infrastructure works, as well as in later state of the art technological transfers. This drove India from being a corrupt and failed medieval state into a position where, after 70 years’ independence, they should be, and are, challenging the West on a market playing field tilted very much in their favour. We owe them nothing and they deserve nothing from us!
Earthquake linked to global warming? Absurd! Cyclones linked to climate warming? Ridiculous. It is sufficient to consult the statistics on cyclones in the Caribbean zone.
In fact the Indians want to receive a lot of money from the rich countries, right?
Every developed country in the world was at one time poorer than the third world is today.
They didn’t need handouts to improve. They just worked hard.
Actually, I think the industrial revolution and the emergence of cheap and reliable energy they provide did that. The only problem was pollution, but we’ve been eliminating that slowly.
The developing world is going down the same road, just much faster as our ancestors paved tge way for them (while exploiting them, to be fair).
Oops, missed fossil fuels in that first sentence.
In Germany there has just been a political earthquake. Climate skeptical parties like the AFD and the FDP have experienced a great gain. The gain for the AFD is 8,5 per Cent to an amount of 13,5 per Cent. The government parties CDU / CSU (Merkel, Seehofer) and SPD (Schulz, formerly EU-Schulz) have together lost almost 15 percent of votes against the last Bundestag election. And within the union of CSU (Bavaria) and the CDU (rest of Germany), the tone becomes increasingly rough. After all, the CSU lost a whopping 12% of the votes in Bavaria. And in Bavaria next year the important regional elections will be held. How to form a coalition between the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), the CSU, the FDP and the Greens (the SPD wants to withdraw into the opposition), is now completely disgraceful. The klimaskeptic position in Germany is in a great upturn.
The USA, with a huge national debt, huge annual deficits, and huge annual trade deficits, is in no possition to help anyone. The climate change we have been experiencing is so small that it takes networks of very sophisticated instruments decades to even detect it. One must not mix up climate change with weather cycles. Extreme weather events have always been part of our current climate and have nothing to do with climate change. Based on the paleoclimate record and modeling efforts one can conclude that the climate change we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which Mankind has no control. There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific reasoning that the climate sensivity of CO2 is zero. One of the real problems is over population that puts a strain on finite natural resources and forces people to live in dangerous areas in terms of vulernability to extreme weather events such as floods and drought. A major part of the solution is to gradually reduce population which is an internal matter.
And yet we do. Apparently you don’t pay attention to what is going on in the world.,
Developed world must help less fortunate ones on climate change: Sushma Swaraj
UNITED NATIONS: External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj today said the challenge posed by climate change requires more “serious action than talk”
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Your talking, Shushma.
Where’s your serious action.
India has enough money to develop nuclear weapons and a space program. Most wealthy countries have decided that there are better uses for their money. But according to mendicant logic, we should still give money to India.
Responding to what is perfectly normal behaviour for a warmist politician of any nationality as if it were somehow a uniquely damning indictment of Indian society seems a bit off to me. And god knows why the caste system has been dragged into this thread.
Pamela Gray September 24, 2017 at 7:29 am
“And will have done so according to caste levels, with upper crust far more deserving than the lower rungs. Me thinks she should remove the log in her eye before telling us about the speck in ours.”
You seem to have taken it for granted that she is corrupt rather than stupid. Supposing you’re right, why would she favour giving money to people of higher caste, in particular? What would she have to gain from it?
Pamela Gray September 24, 2017 at 7:32 am
“Upper casters get to eat more than lower casters. The caste systems in place is entrenched human rights violation writ large. Don’t send a penny till they end that horrible system.”
They get to eat more? I suspect that how much Indians eat probably is probably better correlated with income than with their caste. Or do you think there’s a food police that goes round punishing “lower casters” if they eat too much?
jaakkokateenkorva September 24, 2017 at 2:34 am
“Either way, India can start by abandoning their discriminative and archaic caste system, displayed shamelessly on their foreheads, and ridding themselves of the self-inflicted societal stratification.”
Isn’t it hypocritical to condemn India for failing to eliminate the caste system when we in the West have failed to eliminate racism in our own countries?
Can you give an example of an Indian shamelessly displaying their caste on their forehead?
Patrick MJD September 24, 2017 at 2:52 am
“She is a lighter caste, she would never be exposed to that. It’s “below” her…”
You seem to think that people of high caste are magically protected from poverty. This sounds like the Indian equivalent of “white privilege”.
Samuel C Cogar September 24, 2017 at 8:27 am
“The Untouchable Class in India would surely agree with Minister Sushma Swaraj ………. iffen they weren’t afeared shirtless of being discriminated against by her and the other elite Class members.”
India’s President is an untouchable, and the government has not only continued past governments’ “affirmative action” in favour of lower castes, but also expanded its scope and raised the income threshold above which it ceases to apply. I’m not sure this is a good reason for untouchables to be “afeared shirtless”, but maybe there is one…
India’s President is an asshole, screwing everyone he can. India is vastly wealthy! Why is it still a 3rd world shitehole?
Note to self, remember to use the /sarc off tag so as not to offend the more fragile among us.
Pity your concerns didn’t prevent you doing the same the other way around. My critique was specifically targeted to external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj (BJP) posing in a picture above with a bindi. But, if she is fighting against segregation at birth after all, however further qualified, then I present my apologies to her now.
The prime minister Narendra Modi (BJP) seems to have voiced out skeptic opinions about manmade climate change policies e.g. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chaitanya-kumar/modis-oxymoronic-stance-on-climate-change_b_7045276.html
Now, cannot exclude his external affairs minister has a great sense of humour to speak in UN General Assembly blaming mankind for outside air and earth crust movements and claim money because of it. But she seems to have struck a cord at least with you N. Ominous.
Your turn, who are “we in the West have failed to eliminate racism in our own countries”? and how much should it be?
N. Ominous are you there? After emptying your heavy bag on many contributors over here, the least you can do is to stand by your stance. Right?
jaakkokateenkorva September 24, 2017 at 10:56 pm
“Pity your concerns didn’t prevent you doing the same the other way around.”
I’m afraid I have no idea what this means.
“My critique was specifically targeted to external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj (BJP) posing in a picture above with a bindi.”
No. You claimed that Indians shamelessly displayed their caste on their foreheads. You gave readers no reason to suppost that you were actually “critiquing” Swaraj’s fashion sense. Or do you claim that Swaraj’s bindi is a signifier of her caste?
“But she seems to have struck a cord at least with you N. Ominous.”
Now you’re trolling.
In that case, try discussing the topic instead of the contributors of the discussion. This should help with your predicament. My culture prevents further explanations, unless you ask for it the third time. But, you made me change my mind now. She’s free to wear even swastika on her forehead as a fashion statement, however unwise I might consider it to be. Especially in the public office. Does this make you feel better now?
Either way BJP has chosen to mix politics, religion and nationalism. A 2012 survey by Mangalore University in Karnataka found that 93% of Dalit families still live below the poverty line. How can this be?
For this reason taking into consideration prime minister Modi’s openly skeptic statements, in my opinion the exterior minister is great comedienne by pinning it on earth crust or outside air movements caused by western civilisations. At the same time equally tragic as it would be pinning it on bad karma. But that cannot be it, because “we in the West have failed to eliminate racism in our own countries”?. Right? Now, who exactly are you talking about?
“jaakkokateenkorva September 26, 2017 at 9:03 pm
She’s free to wear even swastika on her forehead as a fashion statement, however unwise I might consider it to be. Especially in the public office. Does this make you feel better now?
Are you or are you not claiming that Swaraj’s bindi is a signifier of her caste? If so then please provide evidence in support of your claim. It’s a simple enough request…
So, N? You put forward the proposition that people are born to a station in life and are required to stay there. Okely dokely then, sweetheart.
Evidently, these 3rd World panhandlers have never heard of doing their part if they’re supposedly so sincere about arresting climate change. They want handouts from the West; yet they continue to build new coal plants at a furious pace. In fact, if all the new plants either under construction or being planned come into operation, they will account for a 43% increase in coal-fired power capacity. This will promptly negate any efforts by the advanced countries to reduce their own emissions, so we should give them nothing in the first place because they obviously have no intentions about living up to their Paris pledges.
Once upon a time, a very long time ago, in a previous Millennium, Saturday Night Live was a very funny Television show. Every time I hear a third world politician demanding aid, I think of the following skit. I am sorry I could not find it on You tube.
Mark Mbutu: Hello. I’m Mark Mbutu from the newly emerging African nation of Namibia, a former German colony located in southwest Africa. Namibia is an undeveloped nation, and we are appealing to you as world citizens. We need your fondue sets. Many people in the United States received these fondue sets as gifts for anniversaries, birthdays and housewarmings, and often put them up on a shelf and forget about them. There are thousands of Namibian housewives who could cheer up an otherwise dull dinner party with one of these sets. Oh, please think, please give, please send. We already have enough of the little sterno cans for underneath the sets from when the Germans were here, so only send the fondue pots themselves, and the long fark–forks if you have them. [Dissolve to address on green background] Our address is: Fondue Sets For Namibia, Box 180, Namibia, West Africa. [Dissolve back to Mbutu] Oh, and we would like to thank Mr. and Mrs. Norman Prager for sending us the Water-Pik and the deluxe toaster oven. [Raises fist] Thank you!
[ dissolve to audience shot, zoom in on woman with SUPER: “WEARING UNDERWEAR MARKED THURSDAY” ]
From: Saturday Night Live Transcripts
Season 1: Episode 19
Mark Mbutu…Garrett Morris
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75snamibia.phtml
india has thousands of miles of railroads, built by the british. not a single mile has been added since independence. corruption rules india.
Lets face facts. The world signed up to the Paris Accords because they wanted their fair share of that US $100 Billion every year that was promised by Obama. External Affairs minister Sushma Swaraj is just upset that India isn’t going to be getting any free US$ now that President Trump has pulled the US out of the Paris Scam.
It is all about the Benjamins! Nothing more and nothing less.