Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Nicholas Sarkozy, former president of France, who is currently running again for President, has demanded Europe impose a carbon tax on imported US goods if Trump pulls out of the Paris Agreement.
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The primary candidate for the right Nicolas Sarkozy has proposed Sunday, November 13, the implementation of a carbon tax on US products imported into Europe , if the President elect Donald Trump denounced the agreement of Paris on the climate.
“Donald Trump said he would not meet – we’ll see if he takes this commitment – the conclusions of the Paris agreement on climate. Well I ask that Europe is adopting a carbon tax at the borders of Europe, a tax of 1 to 3% for all products that come from the United States if the United States is exempt from environmental rules, we impose on our businesses.”
“We can not find in a situation where our businesses have obligations but where we continue to import products from countries that meet none of those obligations”, he pleaded on TF1.
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Read more (original French): http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2016/11/13/sarkozy-propose-une-taxe-carbone-si-trump-denonce-l-accord-sur-le-climat_5030514_823448.html
This isn’t the first time European politicians have demanded a Carbon tax on countries they perceive as less environmentally pure than themselves. A previous European attempt to impose a carbon tax on international airlines foundered when everyone else refused to pay.
The concept of carbon taxing other countries has repeatedly reared its head on the world stage, the latest incarnation being a UN brokered agreement to impose an airline carbon tax on everyone.
The description of arch-globalist and climate fanatic Nicolas Sarkozy as being the primary candidate for the French Right is open to question – Marine Le Pen, a Donald Trump like figure in French politics, has a serious chance of winning the upcoming French Presidential Election.
EW – Corrected the name of Marine Le Pen
There is a simple solution to this nonsense. A law: Any state imposing a “Climate Tax” of any kind receives a US Tariff equal to said tax plus an amount equal to any damages to the US Economy plus administrative costs.
All I can think is that Sarkozy is thrashing about trying for an issue, rather like the American Democrats and the UK Labour party. Outs never are that rational.
This response has absolutely NOTHING to do with carbon or it’s effects. This is only about money and political revenge.
Shame on you, France!
So the US stops importing from France. There are other countries, though France may not actually be aware of that.
Should have been “exporting to” France, though cutting both activities would be fine.
Various groups in the US have proposed tarrifs on goods from countries that don’t have
1) US environmental laws
2) US labor laws
3) US tax rates
4) Any combination of the above.
“Various groups in the US have proposed tarrifs on goods from countries that don’t have”
That’s a way to look at international trade, that can be reasonably discussed.
But then, China has even less CO2 targets than The Donald, yet Sarko doesn’t want a CO2 tax on China imports. That cannot be reasonably discussed. Sarko does not make sense, period.
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Ford has announced that small cars will not be made in Mexico and Apple will
start to be made in the US.
The Trump effect and he is not even in office yet.
The plant that Ford says it’s not going to move to Mexico, was never on the list of plants that might move to Mexico in the first place.
US balance of trade for France specifically was US$18 billion in France’s favor last year and it looks to be about the same this year. Idiot French politician bloviating aside, the US’s economy is 7.5 times bigger than France’s so that $18B his is going to hurt them way more than it hurts us. Assuming of course that the US retaliates with a equal tariff on French goods. Does anyone doubt that Trump wouldn’t do that?
But that won’t happen. Europeans in general are butt hurt that the US isn’t following them down their path of social democratic fiscal insanity. It’s better to ignore their hysterics, which will go by the wayside when Putin starts sending little green men into the Baltic states.
Well maybe when they can keep companies like Volkswagen from cheating on their emissions with their cars we can consider taking them seriously on their threats. There isnt a thing we need out of Europe that we cant make here or buy elsewhere. Give it your best shot France. Oh I forgot you are pacifists, thats why we had to protect you twice in the last hundred years so you have a country.
Do not worry, Sarkozy won’t go far and in the end he works for Washington.
So simple, really.
Dear France,
We are compelled by your recent action to cease importing Wine, Clothing and Apparel, Perfume and Medical equipment. Thank you for understanding.
The American People.
(ps: we have plenty of wine from NY and CA (and the other 48 states). We have plenty of clothing – haute at that – from our Asian partners. We have plenty of perfume(s) (again) from Asia and other parts of the world. Indigenous, no less. Medical equipment is easily swapped for American made stuff. Its not like it MATTERS. GoatGuy)
Great idea and we will stop buying Airbus, the Yugo of aircraft…
The EU insanity of Climate Change over Cultural extermination by the Islamist invasion and Muslim Rape Culture. Trump will put a stake through the heart of the Climate Hoax.
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Says the guy who scrapped the carbon tax in France!
Typical, its all about the money…
I wonder what will transpire when it becomes more widely known that CO2 has no significant effect on climate. Thermalization and the complete dominance of water vapor in reverse-thermalization explain why.
Much of the warming, now countering global cooling, is from rising water vapor. The rising water vapor is nearly all from irrigation. Pumped irrigation is causing the water table to decline rapidly world wide. What happens when fresh water becomes scarce?
For the $1,000,000,000 wasted on Glo.Bull Warming, the world could have built a whole lotta desalination plants …
The cheapest method of desalination is by reverse osmosis but it still costs about 15 times as much as starting with no salt. Expect hydroponics to become more cost effective.
Or used to expand space travel and get programs for extra-planetary resource extraction underway. There’s a nigh inexhaustible supply of water ice in the outer rings of Saturn, if we stop navel-gazing about the Gore Bull Woe Man and actually start figuring out how to go get it.
Or at least get started on building planetary-scale dehumidifiers.
The French deserve themselves.
Nicholas Sarkozy’s threat is small, even if he were in a position to impose it, but I think he is just the first of many who will seek to punish Trump and the U.S. for not going along with the CAGW mass hysteria.
I think we can expect very large demonstrations in the near future, both overseas and here in the United States, fighting against the Trump/U.S. position.
The Democrats had several hundred thousand demonstrators in the streets in Wisconsin not long ago fighting against Gov. Scott Walker’s conservative reforms, so they can generate the crowds, if they want to. And they have radical Leftist billionaires funding the demonstrations, and there will be a lot of people who have been fooled into thinking their lives are in danger because of the Trump/U.S. position on CAGW, so the turnouts will be huge. There will literally be people out in the streets who think it is a life or death matter, and is imminent. So imagine how crazy they are going to be.
And of course, the Leftwing Media will be in full attack mode. So get ready for a huge backlash over Trump’s refusal to back the Paris Accord. I wouldn’t be surprised to see former president Barack Obama leading some of these demonstrations.
The good part is the human-caused global warming/climate change theory is going to get a YUGE airing before the public. And since we skeptics think we are on the right side of this issue, that’s just what we want.
Trump will have to be strong on this one and hold his ground, because he is going to get furious pushback from the uninformed and their masters. We are going to have to help him all we can.
I imagine that China is looking forward to Europe imposing a carbon tax on the US’s exports.
In 2015 the US imported 80 billion dollars more of their good, then they did of ours. You have much, much, more to lose than we do. If we quit importing your stuff, a fourth of your economy just got shut down.
Excuse me if I don’t lose any sleep.
Europe wouldn’t care as long as Trump paid lip service to the Paris Agreement like they do. What they object to is outright dismissal of the agreement, even though it all ends up having the same result. But liberals like to maintain the illusion that spending other-peoples’ money combined with their good intentions are actually saving the planet even when they’re having no noticeable effect at all.
Lifting of the
WatermelonBerlin Blockade?? Plus le change …
Sarkozy comes out of the closet as a climate skeptic
Published: 15 Sep 2016 09:00 GMT+02:00
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Presidential hopeful Nicolas Sarkozy reckons that climate change is not caused by man and that the world has far bigger problems on its hands than global warming.
Nicolas Sarkozy, who is fighting to regain the presidency that he lost to François Hollande in 2012, has finally come out of the closet as a climate skeptic.
Speaking in front of business leaders Sarkozy, a candidate for Les Republicains party primary in November, told them that man alone was not to blame for climate change.
“Climate has been changing for four billion years,” the former president said according to AFP. “Sahara has become a desert, it isn’t because of industry. You need to be as arrogant as men are to believe we changed the climate.”
Sarkozy has minimized the climate change in the past, but up until now he has never openly suggested that man was not to blame.
It appears the ex-president has an all round grudge against climate change.
The former president believes the world should be concentrating on the rise in the population and movement of people rather than worrying so much about global warming.
“Never has the earth experienced such a demographic shock as it is about to, because in a few years there will be 11 billion of us. And man is directly responsible in this case but nobody talks about it,” Sarkozy said.
Sarkozy was also angry at the amount of global media coverage given to the COP21 climate change conference in Paris last year, that was hailed a success not just for the future of the earth but for the Socialist government who helped force through an historic deal.
“Plus le change”
Plus ça change?
Just for lead free solder in electronics the EU can disappear or turn into a radioactive wasteland inhabited by a few cannibal savages for all I care.
The EU is the greatest threat to human freedom in existence today. It is a sugar trap to turn free people into serfs. An iron fist in a velvet glove.