Readers may recall back on May 13th of this year I posted about a change in policy related to hate mail and hateful comments that get sent our way in:
Hump day hilarity: WUWT’s new policy on hate mail – your hate mail will be published
Since then, it seems the hate mail has dialed back a bit, probably because the sort of people that hurl this dreck are cowards who don’t put their name behind their words, sort of like “Sou” at “hotwhopper”, (aka Miriam O’Brien) who prefers daily denigration from the comfort of anonymity even though she’s been known for quite some time.
I do have a a couple of new ones though, and they are just as hilarious as the first one. The email addresses have been redacted, but they are likely disposable email addresses based on the domain used. Can’t have any direct retorts, now can we?
Ah, the projection of moral superiority is deliciously ironic, isn’t it?
Interestingly, the recent official record reports for Seattle are nowhere near 106 degrees:
RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
0126 AM PDT TUE JUN 30 2015
...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SEATTLE WA WFO...
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 89 DEGREES WAS SET AT SEATTLE WA WFO YESTERDAY.
THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 88 SET IN 2008.
RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
0126 AM PDT SUN JUN 28 2015
...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SEATTLE WA WFO...
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 90 DEGREES WAS SET AT SEATTLE WA WFO
YESTERDAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 89 SET IN 2000.
Other records were a bit warmer, but these are all to the far eastern side of Washington State, where hot and dry are normal climate events for summer.
RECORD REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SPOKANE WA
240 PM PDT MON JUN 29 2015
...SOME RECORD HIGHS FROM THIS WEEKEND`S HEAT WAVE
SITE NEW RECORD PREV RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD
JUNE 28TH JUNE 28TH
WENATCHEE ARPT WA*** 109 100 (1987) 1959
SPOKANE ARPT WA** 105 96 (1896) 1881
LEWISTON ARPT ID** 111 104 (1939) 1881
PULLMAN/MOSCOW ARPT WA** 105 94 (1992) 1940
MOSES LAKE WA** 112 99 (2008) 1947
EPHRATA WA** 110 99 (1987) 1948
OMAK ARPT WA**** 110 97 (1992) 1931
MAZAMA WA 102 96 (1987) 1948
PORTHILL WA* 99 96 (2006) 1892
PLUMMER ID** 99 87 (1992) 1948
CHELAN WA**** 109 96 (1992) 1890
STEHEKIN WA 99 97 (2003) 1906
SAINT MARIES ID 97 97 (1925) 1897
BAYVIEW MODEL BASIN ID 93 91 (1948) 1947
ROSALIA WA 100 99 (1939) 1893
HARTLINE WA** 107 97 (1979) 1927
BOUNDARY DAM WA 90 84 (1989) 1965
NORTHPORT WA** 104 98 (1979) 1899
ODESSA WA** 110 103 (2008) 1902
RITZVILLE WA 107 105 (1939) 1899
CHIEF JOSEPH DAM WA**** 113 100 (1987) 1949
BONNERS FERRY ID*** 105 96 (2006) 1907
LA CROSSE WA*** 113 98 (2008) 1931
REPUBLIC WA** 104 98 (1929) 1899
COLVILLE WA** 108 95 (2008) 1899
LIND WA** 109 101 (1939) 1931
WINTHROP WA* 103 96 (1987) 1906
SANDPOINT ID** 102 94 (1939) 1910
SITE NEW RECORD PREV RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD
JUNE 27TH JUNE 27TH
CHELAN 106 96 (2002) 1890
GRAND COULEE DAM WA 103 98 (2006) 1934
WINTHROP WA 100 99 (1925) 1906
WENATCHEE ARPT WA 105 101 (2006) 1959
SPOKANE ARPT WA 102 98 (1925) 1881
LEWISTON ARPT ID 107 103 (1925) 1881
MULLAN PASS ID** 85 79 (2006) 1938
LA CROSSE WA 110 101 (2006) 1931
PULLMAN/MOSCOW ARPT WA 99 94 (1970) 1940
MOSES LAKE WA 106 101 (2006) 1947
EPHRATA WA 107 101 (2006) 1948
LIND WA 105 100 (2002) 1931
COLVILLE WA 104 99 (1925) 1899
REPUBLIC WA 101 97 (1925) 1899
OMAK ARPT WA 107 100 (2006) 1931
HOLDEN VILLAGE WA 94 90 (1992) 1930
SANDPOINT ID 100 94 (2006) 1910
NORTHPORT WA 101 98 (1979) 1899
ODESSA WA* 106 101 (2006) 1902
RITZVILLE WA 104 99 (1939) 1899
PRIEST RAPIDS DAM WA 108 104 (2006) 1956
PLAIN WA* 98 94 (1992) 1937
SITE NEW RECORD PREV RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD
JUNE 26TH JUNE 26TH
LA CROSSE WA 106 101 (2002) 1931
CHIEF JOSEPH DAM WA 106 103 (2002) 1949
PRIEST RAPIDS DAM WA 104 103 (1987) 1956
WENATCHEE ARPT WA 102 100 (2006) 1959
OMAK WA 102 101 (1992) 1931
LIND WA 101 100 (2002) 1931
COLVILLE WA* 101 100 (2002) 1899
GRAND COULEE DAM WA 99 98 (1992) 1934
SANDPOINT ID 95 95 (2006) 1910
NEZ PERCE ID 92 90 (1992) 1901
WATERVILLE WA 97 97 (1896) 1893
RITZVILLE WA 101 100 (1925) 1899
* TIED ITS MONTHLY HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORD FOR JUNE
** BROKE ITS MONTHLY HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORD FOR JUNE
*** TIED ITS ALL TIME HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORD
**** BROKE ITS ALL TIME HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORD
While certainly it was one of the warmest Washington days ever recorded by thermometers, note the period of record for the oldest temperature records only extends as far back as 1881. I always find it amusing when people such as “Benno” think recorded history translates to just over 100 years.
What they miss is the millennia before that when the land known as “Washington state” existed and had climate. How does “Benno” know such temperatures didn’t exist before? He doesn’t; our current set of records is just a flyspeck of time, and such a small time period sample can’t capture the dynamics of the climate over past millennia.
But, they’ll emotionally wail about it anyway, and cite it as “proof” of climate change.
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Wow! The goofball from Seattle should have been at my farm in 2012 when the low temps were in the 90’s and daytime highs were around 110F. All that time he was enjoying normality along with my older sister and several cousins who live out there. I was screaming the same chant that the warming was out of control and my dad gave me a lesson on the 1930’s, 1950’s and reminded me of one summer in the early ’60’s when 100 degrees plus was a multi-week event and we had no air conditioning in a brick ranch house.
Now, the ‘ridiculously resilient’ ridge is in place over that part of this globe and the uninformed turn to the doomsaying media for information. Authority from consensus brings them assurance of eventual incineration by greenhouse gasses, backed by the presidential seal. We are going the way Venus went (per the greenhouse theory) and we are at fault.
If these people learn the real facts they will see that their situation is not unprecedented and it is also not permanent. They will eventually see too much rain as we in the midwest are experiencing presently. Read The Good Earth by Pearl S. Buck and become aware of the cycles of everything.
May I remind the folks in droughted areas that they have comfort in the fact that 400ppm CO2 will benefit the flora by requiring less moisture to survive than during previous dry spells.
“cite it as ‘proof’ of climate change.”
As well it should be.
Is it not settled that temperatures warmed, on average, over the last century, and would have done so (albeit to a much lesser degree) without human assistance? And are we not incessantly warned that the human contribution ensures an increase in extreme weather?
If both are true, shouldn’t far more high temperature records be broken on a regular basis?
I looked at Spokane’s temperature record from 1890–2014, which is extraordinarily complete:
Hmm. Where are the extremes? Hottest year, on average, was 1934 at 53°F, coldest was 1985 at 44°F. “Hottest year” 2014 was 47°F. The overall trend is cooler, at -0.102°F/decade.
Extreme high temperature recorded at this station was 108°F in 1928 and 1961. The trend in extreme high temperatures over 125 years is -0.065°F/decade.
Is Spokane a climate change denier?
Beautiful comment. 🙂 The city in my heart is also home to plenty of my skeptical friends. No surprise that its weather archives would be a thorn in the side of warmists.
Bless the Lilac City.
Leon Brozyna:
“Such reasoning … such logic … such rationality … such, what do you call it? … oh yes, hate … so sad.”
So human. That’s what peons do, also called pawns, or in Medieval Latin ‘pedonem’ meaning ‘foot soldier’. Did the guys in the trenches in the Great War argue philosophy and politics? I think not. Nor in any other war. Did the Brown Shirts try to convince you by logic?, the Red Guard?, the ISIL?, the KKK?
No, their tools were force and hate and mobs. (“Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!”)
After the French Revolution, the noble cause turned into The Terror, somewhat of a setback for The Enlightenment and The Age of Reason. We might be poised on the brink of a new apocalypse, not caused by carbon dioxide, a new dark age. So far it’s less bloody on the western front, since Twitter can replace the guillotine. Not so much on the eastern front, since swords and knives still rule.
There are several versions of the story of how Archimedes died, killed by a foot soldier, but the one by Alfred North Whitehead is particularly interesting:
http://www.math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes/Death/Histories.html
Shorter Johnny:
It’s hot in Death Valley, therefore record temperatures near San Fransisco.
I think it’s highly inappropriate to call people names despite how appropriate we may think that derogatory name we called them is. In reality it’s just a spychological projection and the individual doesn’t really match the description we give them.
I learned this many years ago when I was at a college picnic at a forest preserve, and one of the more dour young coeds referred to the young men, zipping around on their motorcycles, as mounted on their “chrome penises.”
And, I thought to myself; ‘What a ridiculous analogy.’ First of all, there really is no such thing as a “chrome penis”
– um, well maybe at the Gay Pride Parade. Ok, so let’s skip that argument and allow me to continue.
Anyway, a motorcycle is a mechanical, technological thing whereas a penis is a biological thing. A motorcycle rolls around on tires made of … uh, rubber.
Ok, skip that too.
Anyway, a motorcycle engine has throbbing pistons.
Um, completely disregard that example; completely forget I wrote it; pretend I never did, and let me continue.
A motorcycle engine operates on heat energy. Uh, blow that off too. I’ll get this right.
Anyway, a motorcycle has a pair of saddlebags.
Ok, I failed. I admit it. A 97% consensus of reasonable people recognize I thoroughly defeated my own argument. Maybe our money grubbing, human hating, control freak, warmistas really are money grubbing …
What, have you been out bar hopping with P J O’Rourke?
Don’t I wish!
You guys would end up in the pokey, for sure. You’d be smartin’ off and wisecrackin’ all over the place and pretty soon, some sorehead would get a case and the fistfight would escalate up and down the street- cops, batons, paddy wagons- I can just picture it.
No, wait- that was then, not now. It would be tear gas, assault rifles and SWAT pouring out of an MRAP.
Dang. Bummed myself out and it started out as so much fun.
I look forward to the day that the non-deniers bring climate change to a halt. I trust that we will get a perfect late spring day on that occasion.
I’ll bet Johnny has also signed on to the “Ban DiHydrogen Monoxide” petition as well. I mean, it doesn’t take a genius, or even an educated person, to know that that stuff is in everything!
I did however, think “associates degree in cash registering” was quite funny.
I’d be more concerned about the hydride of oxygen, which is often sold as a lower-priced equivalent. Ask any chemist, oxides are fairly stable whilst hydrides can be very reactive.
It’s not DiHydrogen Monoxide that’s the danger. It’s that darn OxyDiHydride.
It might be interesting to enter the address that list came from into TheWayBackMachine to see if maybe his fear of “Man-Made Climate Change” might be valid (sort of). 😎
I love the line, “If you’re going to believe politicians over scientists, then you probably don’t care too much for you kids’ and grandkids’ generation.” Talk about cognitive dissonance…I’m going to venture a guess that Johnny is a big supporter of Medicare and Social Security.
I recently discovered that a comment of mine had been “hotwhoppered”.
Since the quote on hotwhopper was a single sentence excerpt and removed from the context of the rest of the post, and also freed from the context and good humor of the thread in which it was posted, it certainly did look pretty meaningless.
I consider it a compliment however and a badge of honour.
It was even more of a compliment to realize that Ms Hotwhopper perceived that it would be necessary to edit my post, in order to prevent any hotwhopper readers from perceiving that I may actually have had a reasonable or amusing point.
Just one question though: What kind of moron commits her life to blogging at length about the comments left in the comments section of another blog?
What’s up with that? Blogging about comments on another blog? There’s something extraordinarily desperate and tedious about that, isn’t there?
“Welcome to Hot Whopper. Look at me. Aren’t I a big clever clogs. Today I found a comment on an internet blog which contains a sentence which when removed from context looks like it may have little valid substance.” (satire)
She obviously isn’t all too concerned about wasting time and electricity.
Followed by a blog inspired by her blog which in turn is inspired by this one which mentions that one.
WUWT is where most stories originate so there’s no point in looking at the “cascade”.
“Just one question though: What kind of moron commits her life to blogging at length about the comments left in the comments section of another blog?”
Hey I kinda resent that since I made the “grade”:
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Sure enough, a conspiracy theorist took the bait. BFL saying “who really knows for sure…”:
February 1, 2015 at 10:41 am
It’s not that the moon landings were actually faked, but that the government would have been fully and immorally capable of doing it if they had decided too. That knowledge makes it all too easy to believe many of the “supposedly” loony conspiracy theories because who really knows for sure…….
The discussion devolves from here on in, if you can try to imagine that.
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Apparently she believes that the U.S. (and possibly all other western governments) are completely above that sort of thing:
http://conspiraciesthatweretrue.blogspot.com/2007/01/list-of-proven-conspiracies-from.html
I love getting abuse on Facebook comments. Allowing people to vent their anger is the first step to changing their opinion. Mind you, I am particularly thick skinned and never go beyond a friendly tease in response.
also,
the only way to adequately illustrate the absurd,
is with absurdity.
And I love witnessing the honest shock expressed by the very rare “concerned but honest”, when they encounter a simple statement of truth, such as “sea level rise only … per decade and not accelerating”, or “longest period of zero cat 3 hurricane landfalls since…”, or “highest range of Antartic sea ice since start of reliable satellite measurement”. etc.
Rarely. Very rarely a person who has been sucked into the alarmist vortex will first dismiss such a statement, then think that reference to the “data” will allow them to prove you are totally wrong, then check some real stats, and then they return will an apology for the earlier flaming dismissal and an articulate demonstration of their total astonishment.
Oh wait. No, that only ever happened to me once.
But, hey, that’s one less alarmotard in the world today!!
I would call it “fan” mail and publish more of it. What an easy high road. Plus FlamingJonny is funny in a kind of “you don’t really think like that, do you” kind of way.
A colleague of mine just came back from the Ungava Peninsula. Up to 3′ of snow in places (on June 27th). The local Inuit helpers say its been awhile since that happened. Just weather. Perhaps we could crowd-source a trip there for clueless in Seattle.
Congratulations to A Watts for living rent free inside Sou’s head.
Miriam constantly monitors this blog and regularly selects & logs comments as evidence of something.
Hullo Miriam, darling!
Keep up the stellar work and pick me.
And if Sou or her readers would like to make fun of my name, remember, there is no second prize.
Willie, is that you?
Hi Alan.
“The doctor, lawyer & Indian chief, they all dig that crazy beat”.
Thanks for posting the video.
Surely all these Washington cities, towns etc have grown considerably since their previous temperature records. Would this not create more Urban heat Island effect.? Temperature sensors connected to buildings? Are they all one and two rated stations?
Are they all one and two rated stations?
The Class 1\2 rated stations for the NW region (WA, ID, OR) show much lower trends than the Class 3\4\5s.
NE, KS, OK and TX agreed and sent their hell to those idiots out west…
finally some long term relief…
pretty mild here over the last few summers since the shipments began…
no more 60 day strings of 104F+ every frik’n day.
Hope y’all have some fun in our ‘sun’ out west, returns will be rejected, all shipments final. 😉
So, let me get this straight: there have been no overall record temperatures in WA since 1959?
There are other reasons to believe that higher temperatures were common than are officially recorded.
Here in the UK a gardener in his book “Directions for the gardiner and other horticultural advice”, and no gardiner is not a mistype it is how he spelt it being a contemporary of Samuel Pepys, talks of growing salads all year outside.
Using the same method requires considerably higher temperatures than we have now.
A.W. says, “A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 89 DEGREES WAS SET AT SEATTLE WA WFO YESTERDAY.
THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 88 SET IN 2008.”
Not 106 degrees, but the point is, it was a real scorcher! Esp. after spending 9 months in the dark in the rain.
Vitamin D deficiencies from inadequate exposure to sunlight is mentally debilitating for some, as you can see..
Climate Alarmists can get very unhinged. When reading their comments one can imagine their heads exploding. I am reminded of one of my all time favorite rants on You Tube: Earl Weaver and the balk call from I believe the 1981 season. It is classic. Just go to you tube and search Earl Weaver, umpire, rage .
Oh yes and you need a few swear words to set you point… just use stupid. Works better.
Sleepless In SLC
I’d love to use my real name to comment. Unfortunately I have family/friends who work in fields where what I may say online about Climate Change could seriously impact them.
Having listened to stories about co-workers calling for dismissal, not because the work that offended them was wrong, but because they didn’t like it I can’t bring myself to use my real name when the consequences of whatever I say (even if I stick to my fields of knowledge) may come back to bite someone else.