This is a guest post by Prof. Richard Betts, Head of Climate Impacts at the Met Office, (IPCC AR4 and AR5 lead author) about Lewandowsky, Oreskes et al’s forthcoming paper, which suggests that climate skeptics influence climate scientists.
Richard’s post starts now.
Stephan Lewandowsky and co-authors have published an Executive Summary of their forthcoming paper* Seepage: Climate change denial and its effect on the scientific community. The authors suggest that climate scientists are allowing themselves to be influenced by “contrarian memes” and give too much attention to uncertainty in climate science. They express concern that this would invite inaction in addressing anthropogenic climate change. It’s an intriguing paper, not least because of what it reveals about the authors’ framing of the climate change discourse (they use a clear “us vs. them” framing), their assumptions about the aims and scope of climate science, and their awareness of past research. However, the authors seem unable to offer any real evidence to support their speculation, and I think their conclusions are incorrect.
As their example of scientists apparently giving undue weight to “contrarian memes”, Lewandowsky et al focus on what they describe as the “asymmetry of the scientific response to the so-called Œpause’”. They assert that “on previous occasions when decadal warming was particularly rapid, the scientific community did not give short-term climate variability the attention it has recently received”. They do not specifically identify the “previous occasions when decadal warming was particularly rapid”, but it’s fair to assume that they are referring to the 1990s, probably the period 1992-1998. This was the most recent occasion when global mean temperatures rose rapidly for a few years, and previous such occasions occurred before climate science had become established as a widely established field of research.
This assertion, however, is incorrect. Short-term climate variability did receive a lot of attention in the 1990s see extensive discussion in the first 3 IPCC Assessment Reports, and brief discussion by Hawkins et al (Nature Climate Change, 2014). One specific example of a high-profile paper on this topic is Sutton & Allen (Nature, 1997), but there are others.
It is perplexing that Lewandowsky et al do not seem to be aware of this research on short-term climate variability. One explanation may be that there is more effective communication of research. Social media opens up many more channels through which climate scientists can communicate their work, instead of this communication being done by middle-men in the mainstream media or vested-interest organisations such as NGOs as in the 1990s. Those outside of the climate science community are therefore much more likely to be exposed to topics that are of interest to the scientists themselves, rather than just topics which interest newspaper editors or environmental campaigners.
Possibly Lewandowsky et al are wondering why there was not a raft of papers specifically focussing on the observed temperature record between 1992 and 1998. The reason is simple this was not a particularly surprising event. When global temperatures rose rapidly few a few years after 1992, this was very easily explained by the tailing-off of the short-term cooling influence of the Mount Pinatubo eruption. This had cooled the Earth briefly by injecting large quantities of ash into the stratosphere. Indeed this cooling had been successfully predicted by Jim Hansen using a climate model shortly after the eruption. A few years later, 1998 was an exceptionally warm year globally because of a major El Nino event. The fact that these two events were well understood and even partly predicted in advance meant that there was less of a puzzle to be solved, so less motivation for extensive research on the drivers of global temperature over these specific years. In contrast, the trajectory of global temperatures in the last 15 years or so was not specifically predicted in advance. Although global temperatures remain within the envelope of uncertainty implied by multi-model studies, this is not the same as actually predicting it. So this time, there is an interesting puzzle to be investigated.
I have not actually counted or systematically reviewed the papers on variability in the 1990s compared to those in more recent years, so although there was a lot of variability research in the 1990s, it is still possible that there are more variability papers in the latter period. However, even if this is the case, there are other reasons for this. Users of climate information (and hence funding bodies) are increasingly interested in adaptation planning, which tends to require information in the nearer-term when natural variability dominates. More recently this has matured into the agenda of Climate Services, which includes forecasting on seasonal, inter annual and decadal timescales. This has led to the development of new scientific capabilities to address this need, eg. very large ensembles of climate models, initialised forecasting (where models use data assimilation to start from actual present-day data rather than pre-industrial), increased resolution, and greater computing power. So in addition to the scientific motivation to study variability which already existed in the 1990s, there is additional motivation coming from stakeholders and funding bodies, and also more extensive capability for this research.
Lewandowsky at al regard research into natural variability as “entertaining the possibility that a short period of a reduced rate of warming presents a challenge to the fundamentals of greenhouse warming.” Is there any evidence at all of climate scientists actually thinking this? I don’t think so. This indicates a fundamental misconception about the scope and aims of current climate science – the authors seem to assume that climate science is entirely focussed on anthropogenic climate change, and that natural variability is only researched as a supplementary issue in order to support the conclusions regarding anthropogenic influence. However, the truth is very different natural variability was always of interest to scientists as part of understanding how the climate system works, and Climate Services and the ambitions for short term forecasting are now major research drivers. It is true that some papers have also used the observational record to try to understand and constrain key quantities of relevant to anthropogenic change, namely equilibrium climate sensitivity and transient climate response, but this is hardly addressing the “fundamentals of greenhouse warming”, it is simply trying to reduce uncertainty in one of the key aspects of it. Such studies certainly do not limit themselves purely to the “pause” period instead, they include it in a much longer period of many decades, since this is the timescale of relevance to changes in greenhouse forcing. Exclusion of recent years from such studies would lead to misleading results, so of course the “pause” period is going to be included.
So the perceived “asymmetry” can be easily explained purely as an evolution of scientific focus and capability over the last 25 years. Nevertheless, the hypothesis of psychological influences is intriguing. Could it still be happening even though the specific example of increased research on variability can be explained by other factors? Lewandowsky et al suggest three mechanisms by which their proposed “seepage” may occur does the evidence support these proposed mechanisms? Here I focus on the situation in the UK, as this is where I am most familiar, and also because this is where a focus on the “pause” is quite common.
The first proposed mechanism is dubbed “Stereotype Threat”. The idea is that climate scientists are worried about being stereotyped as “alarmists”, and react by downplaying the threat. I agree that there may be some evidence for this in the IPCC and the global climate science community – for example, although the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) included projections based on the high-end A1FI scenario, these were performed with the simpler Integrated Assessment Models rather than full, complex General Circulation Models. Moreover, the media focus on the projections sometimes did overlook the A1FI projection of warming up to 6.4C by 2100. (Indeed I was told by a long-established and respected environment journalist that the media were very much steered away from the A1FI result when AR4 was published in 2007.) This was indeed one of the motivations for my paper “When could global warming reach 4C?” as felt that the A1FI scenario had not received the attention it warranted. However, despite this possible example of reticence by the IPCC, the UK community does not seem to have followed suit. The A1FI scenario was used in the UKCIP02 and UKCP09 climate projections, and a number of high profile UK conferences focussed on the higher-end risks of climate change, eg. “Avoiding Dangerous Climate Change” in Exeter in 2005; and “4 Degrees and Beyond”, Oxford, 2009. UK research institutions are leading two major EU-funded consortia on the impacts of “high-end climate change” (I’m coordinating one of these, HELIX, myself). So while talk of the “pause” is commonplace in the UK climate science community, this does not seem to be accompanied by shying away from discussing projections and risks of higher-end climate change.
The second proposed mechanism is dubbed “Pluralistic Ignorance”, which refers to people thinking that their views are more in the minority than they really are. The authors offer the speculative example of public discourse that IPCC has supposedly exaggerated the threat of climate change. This does not seem to be the case in the UK there is general public acceptance of anthropogenic climate change, and uniquely non-partisan political consensus on taking action on mitigation. For example, a recent article in the Guardian states:
“Britons are more likely to agree the climate is changing than at any time in recent years, with nearly nine in 10 people saying climate change is happening and 84% attributing this somewhat or entirely to human activity, new research has found. Two-thirds say they are concerned by global warming.”
Over the past 25 years, successive UK governments have led the world in supporting climate science and in developing climate policy both at home and internationally. The Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher personally founded the Met Office Hadley Centre, and at the same time the UK was prominent in establishing the IPCC. For the first 4 IPCC assessment reports, the UK government played a central role by supporting an IPCC Co-Chair and Technical Support Unit in the Met Office Hadley Centre. The UK has been central to the UN climate negotiations, and under the Labour government of 1997-2010 was the first country to put in place its own legislation on reducing emissions and planning adaptation (the Climate Change Act). In the 2010 election, the Conservative Party manifesto was keen to promote its environmental policies, and prior to the recent election the three main parties signed a statement supporting continuation of the Climate Change Act. Hence, if there is any country in the world where climate scientists can feel that their research is valued by both the public and politicians, it is the UK.
The final proposed mechanisms is dubbed the “Third person effect”, and refers to the idea that someone may think that others are more easily persuaded than they are themselves, and react to this. This seems quite plausible, but I fail to see why this would not apply equally to arguments from activists and politicians aiming to persuade people of the threat of climate change. In fact, given the widespread public and political agreement on anthropogenic climate change in the UK, it seems far more likely that the “Third Person Effect” would apply to being persuaded by arguments in favour of acting on climate change than by those against it.
So overall I do not see that “seepage of contrarian memes” is necessary to explain research on the recent slowdown in global surface warming, nor do I see any evidence that this is likely to be occurring in the UK climate science community where such research is prominent.
There are further intriguing questions arising from the facts that (1) UK scientists discuss the “pause/slowdown”, (2) the UK public acceptance of anthropogenic climate change and (3) successive UK governments have been, and remain, world-leaders in climate policy. If climate scientists have indeed allowed themselves to be influenced by “contrarians”, it would appear that this has not prevented widespread acceptance of anthropogenic climate change or the development and implementation of climate policy. Indeed, if scientific discussion of the “pause/slowdown” is indeed seen by the public and politicians as considering a “contrarian meme”, could it actually be the case that a clear willingness to consider a range of viewpoints could actually enhance the credibility of climate scientists? Therefore could open discussion of the “pause” actually increase the confidence of the public and the government in their advice that climate change is real and man-made? It seems fair to suggest that an intelligent and thoughtful public and politicians would take scientists more seriously if they are seen to be objective indeed some research does support this supposition.
So to conclude, I think Lewandowsky et al are incorrect that scientific research and discussion into the recent climate variability has arisen as a result of the “seepage of contrarian memes”. Variability has always been a key topic in climate research, and if this has become more extensive or visible in this recently, it is simply the result of improved science communication, more specific research questions and evolving capabilities within climate science. The evidence also suggests that even if “seepage” is real, at the very least this seepage has had no influence in watering-down UK public opinion and political action compared to other countries – and that possibly the opposite has occurred because the public are more convinced by seeing scientists being objective.
Footnote:
*it seems they expected the paper to be published at the same time, but it is not yet available. Stephan offers to send the corrected proofs to anyone who emails him.
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Note
[BarryJWoods] – This article was 1st published at the AndThenTheresPhysics blog and has been republished here with permission of Professor Betts to allow it a wider audience, and for those that are unable to comment at the other blog
This is my personal opinion, I think that it again highlights a major difference of opinion of just how science should be communicated to the public. This was demonstrated by the twitter conversation between Dr Doug McNeall and Dr Naomi Oreskes last September where they discussed the usage of the word ‘pause’, Dr Oreskes said she was writing a paper about what words to use (presumably the ‘seepage ‘paper ) which led to Dr McNeall’s comment below (link which was discussed further at WUWT here)
This gave the impression, to me at least, that a number of scientists really want to talk about the science to the public and others just want to control the message that the public hear. And for me, that the former approach rather trusts the intelligence of the public more, than the latter communications approach of apparently wanting to control the language used publicly by scientists.
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A very interesting article. It is even clearer than ever than Lewandowsky is simply an alarmist loon whose credentials on discussing climate change, or even psychology (it would seem) appear to be rather lacking. My only real disappointment with this article is the quotation from the Grauniad, that well known bastion of climate truth, where yet again they try to make a case out of some vague survey.
Here’s the problem; Warmist science isn’t actually science at all. It never was. It is part of the Climatist Memeplex. Reality, and Skeptics/Climate Realists has been increasingly threatening to the Warmist ideology though, and so Warmists have had to backpedal. The backpedaling, the excuses for the “Pause”, and psychobabble from Loony Lew are all symptoms of a dying memeplex.
Professor Richard Betts
Theodore Roosevelt
I think Professor Betts had a pretty nice stick at hand and slammed it right onto the head of Looneykowsky et al. In real academia such a criticism is hard stuff. Yet, he didn’t go far enough.
…It is perplexing that Lewandowsky et al do not seem to be aware of this research on short-term climate variability. …
“…It is UNSURPRISING that Lewandowsky et al do not seem to be aware of this research on short-term climate variability…”
There. Fixed that for you.
Actually, I am fully in accord with Prof. Betts’ assertion that ‘natural variability’ is a major item of interest to climate scientists. Any improvement in understanding this will be of great benefit to humanity, enabling far better medium and long-range forecasting.
The problem for Climate Science is that it has become impossibly politicised. ANY advance in ANY aspect of the subject is immediately pored over by the two opposing camps, then held up by one of them as a validation of their views while the other excoriates the background and funding of the researchers. More complex inferences and rebuttals are then developed which enable the ‘defeated’ camp to claim victory, while their opponents go into defensive mode.
I really cannot see how any real science can be undertaken in such an academic climate. It would normally fall to the academic establishments to bang heads together and rectify the situation, but they have mainly thrown in their lot with one of the opposing sides, and now join in the assertion that the ‘science is settled’ – hardly a suitable position for a dispassionate enquirer after truth to espouse. The one action I believe a true scientist can take in these circumstances is to be on the lookout for instances where social and academic pressure is being applied to suppress ideas – ANY ideas, and to stand up and be counted in opposition to this.
Which is neither a safe, nor career-enhancing move….
‘natural variability’ has very little advantage to it to those working within the climate ‘science’
on other hand , ‘man made ‘ has been is real money spinning and great enhancement to the professional careers of those working within the climate ‘science’
Now you decided which of these paths those working within the climate ‘science’ are likley to take?
“Britons are more likely to agree the climate is changing than at any time in recent years, with nearly nine in 10 people saying climate change is happening and 84% attributing this somewhat or entirely to human activity, new research has found. Two-thirds say they are concerned by global warming.”
I wonder if these figures were obtained by the same pollsters who told us the Conservatives would be unable to achieve a majority in parliament?
It’s all about the questions you ask and how you ask them.
If I ask “Are you worried about climate change?”, people will say they are worried about climate change.
If I ask people to rank ten issues (climate change, youth unemployment, terrorism, etc., etc.) people will rank climate change dead last.
the same pollsters who told us the Conservatives would be unable to achieve a majority in parliament?
+++++++++++
I think this comment by Professor Betts hits the nail on the head.
When climate scientists ignore the pause, as seen in the twitter exchange above, the public can be left to wonder what they are trying to hide. Whereas if the address the pause in a scientific manner, even if they dismiss it as for instance by saying the heat is going into the deep ocean, then they do seem more objective and people from everywhere on the continuum of climate change beliefs will be more willing to listen.
This is something that I learned in high school debating. Acknowledging your opponets arguments and then trying to explain where they were wrong worked much better than ignoring their arguments or just dismissing their arguments with no reason given.
There is some good stuff here, but…
‘uniquely non-partisan political consensus on taking action on mitigation. For example, a recent article in the Guardian states:”
The rabidly pro-alarmist Guardian which no issues at all with misrepresenting science when it suits it, has effectively handing itself our Stern, Bob etc to be used as PR firm for ‘the cause.
Betts you really could not get further from non-partisan than the Guardian on this, even if it loves the head of Met. Its like claiming the KKK is unbiased source on race relations.
“The Devil made me do it.” –Geraldine Jones
“In the 2010 election, the Conservative Party manifesto was keen to promote its environmental policies, and prior to the recent election the three main parties signed a statement supporting continuation of the Climate Change Act. Hence, if there is any country in the world where climate scientists can feel that their research is valued by both the public and politicians, it is the UK.”
I would like to point out that the Public have been brainwashed into believing that socalled “Climate Change” is CAGW rather than mostly natural. They are deluged every day with CAGW predictions most of which are contrary to real observations. To the best of my knowledge from what I have read 97% of politicians know less than 3% about real climate science.
I would have preferred if Professor Richard Betts had spent his valuable time commenting on this
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/05/12/22-very-inconvenient-climate-truths/
Commenting on people like Lewandowsky, Oreskes and their ilk is a side issue compared with issues like the 22 very inconvenient climate truths.
Dr Betts says,”Although global temperatures remain within the envelope of uncertainty implied by multi-model studies, this is not the same as actually predicting it.”
Please tell me, with proper error bars, what is “the envelope of uncertainty implied by multi-model studies.”
And then, please explain how these uncertainties were determined.
Should we hold our breathe waiting for a response to your query?
Maybe best not to.
“Climate variability research: did the sceptics make us do it?”
Those mean sceptics – making climate scientists do research.
Oh, the inhumanity!
Richard gets a platform to state a centreist position at WUWT, and the refutation is more about defending the idea of science than anything else. Anthony is to be commended, they’d never give us such a big platform. On a personal level, I totally abhor the hate-enabling prostitution of academia by such people
https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/the-real-bastards/
Pointman.
“by such people” I mean Lew. Disambiguation as they say nowadays.
P
Pointman has written an excellent article. Well worth the read.
Professor Betts has shown great courage in speaking out. All that is required for evil to flourish is for good people to remain silent.
Mr Ferdberple,
I believe in the principle of “better late than never”, and the one of “something is better than nothing”.
But this is way too little, way too late, and no where near what is required to redeem oneself after years of silence while the scaremongers had zero criticism from within the warmista camp, even while they flooded the world with the most ridiculous and strident alarmist and finger pointing.
Good people do not remain silent, nor do they do nothing. Those who remain silent or who do nothing enable those who do evil to succeed. They will never deserve the adjective “good”. Edmund Burke had a good point, but made an oxymoron of it. He should have said something along the lines of “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for to do nothing to resolve the dangers that surround them. By “good” he meant normal, cowardly people, not virtuous ones.
Oops, I used html characters and it zapped an important phrase. It should have read:
Good people do not remain silent, nor do they do nothing. Those who remain silent or who do nothing enable those who do evil to succeed. They will never deserve the adjective “good”. Edmund Burke had a good point, but made an oxymoron of it. He should have said something along the lines of “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for his target audience to do nothing to resolve the dangers that surround them. By “good” he meant normal, cowardly people, not virtuous ones.
Anthony is to be Congratulated on a wonderful coup to get an alarmist paper published here. I have been aching for that.
Prof. Betts is thanked and congratulated for allowing his paper to be published in “the other camp.”
This is psychology rather than climate research, but welcome all the same.
Argh! Richard Betts piece here is historical revisionism.
Lewandowsky’s paper finds:
– that there has only been a plethora of alarmist peer review research into the ‘pause’ since the period from IPCC AR5 in 2013;
– that ‘pause’ research was first undertaken by climate skeptics well before 2013
– that climate skeptic ‘research has percolated up from climate skeptic circles into climate alarmist circles, after years of the climate alarmists successfully resisting all climate skeptic research and the observations on which that research was built
– by 2013 the ‘pause’ simply could no longer be successfully denied by climate alarmists so the climate alarmists started to research the reality of the ‘pause’.
Lewandowsky is right – ‘pause’ research percolated up into climate alarmist circles AFTER the skeptics addressed it.
Richard Betts tries to say Lewandowsky’s wrong but instead of easily winning his argument by posting 100s of links to different pre-2013 climate alarmist papers about the ‘pause’ he only links 1.
And it’s not even about the ‘pause’!
Betts’s link to Hawkins is misdirection, pure and simple. There’s nothing there. And as for Betts mentioning AR3 and AR4 (no links) well, they never covered the ‘pause’. As we now know, peer-review/pal-review kept out every bit of skeptic research in favour of absurd alarmism.
There’s another climate alarmist, Sophie Lewis in Oz, trying to peddle the same ‘we’ve always known about the ‘pause’ nonsense. Well, in the internet age that kind of historical revisionism just won’t wash.
Live with it Richard. You’ve been undone. By Stephan Bloody Lewandowsky!
I agree. And I don’t understand the enthusiasm for letting anyone from the other team claim “we knew it all along”.
Mebbe, there’s nothing for it but to keep pointing out to the folks like Betts playing catch-up science, that they were late to the party.
Look at this. 2009! It took the Met Office in the UK til 2009 to even bother to consider flat temps – and even then they only bothered by checking whether their beloved models could be kneaded into supporting their ‘we always knew/no surprises here’ posturing. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2009/global-warming.
Well, claiming we knew it all along is a universal part of changing your mind. Alarmists have done trillions of dollars worth of damage to the global economy, so we need them free to change.
Remember, a strong economy is also a key component of improvements in our relationship with nature and with reduced pollution.
And remember that the name for warm periods before 1980 or so was “climate optimum.” For the well-being of Earth’s creatures, we need to remind them of that, also. This, too, may help the real deniers (alarmists) come to grips with reality. I am pretty sure the IPCC reports have buried in them somewhere the idea that warming of up to 2C would be beneficial. Now, the Eocene Climate Optimum was 6C warmer than present, and there was a major explosion of Life. As a biologist, I am in favor of warming!
The fact that the alarmists said so first should be a major emotional support for them as they begin to face the truth.
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2014/3/7/catching-up-josh-262.html
😉
Thank you Professor Betts.
“It is perplexing that Lewandowsky et al do not seem to be aware of this research on short-term climate variability.”
There is no excuse for academics to be unaware of existing research in a field they are working in.
She might be right.. according to NCEP data, since PDO flip, there might be a slight downturn
http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/cfsr_t2m_2005.png
Her data denial can be a sign of delusion and deception… which all seems to fit the mold
“The second proposed mechanism is dubbed “Pluralistic Ignorance”, which refers to people thinking that their views are more in the minority than they really are.”
This is a most intriguing statement. Why should one’s conclusions be guided by the popularity of the beliefs of others? Isn’t that argumentum ad populum? Has the author not noticed that fifty per cent of the population has below average intelligence? Holding a microphone is not a qualification to speak. What is the purpose of intelligence if not to independently investigate the truth of all matters?
Surely it is common cause that complex subjects are more difficult to comprehend and analyse. Consider then the difference between training and education and the meaning of the salutation, “Oh Ye who have names to be wise.” Let us not for a moment confuse ‘schooling’ with education, or qualifications with wisdom.
Consider the wise observations of the rube who, while unschooled in any art or science, is able to penetrate to the heart of a matter by combining experience and independence of thought. Anyone with a long memory knows the climate has warming and cooling cycles. The continuous rise in CO2 and a constant global temperature for about a generation undermines all extremist views on climate sensitivity to CO2.
Compare the conclusions of that observant independent with the sheer unwillingness to think, the Pavlovian slavering, of the trained media to bark each time an alarming pronouncement arrives from an invested member of the CAGW industry.
Then consider the fundamentalist refusals of the likes of Oreskes to admit to the cessation of temperature rise that is obvious to any sentient observer. The refusal to admit the obvious and evident is modern fanaticism of Medieval proportion. This is the level of wilful ignorance that underwrites the success of Month Python sketches lampooning the blithering ignorance of European science in the Middle Ages.
Lew’s paper is merely an extension of CO2 witchraft explaining why witches sink and ducks float – “the badness seeps in”. It should have been published in the 1320 edition of Psychology Today.
Crispin,
Sir, thank you.
You hit the mark, dead center.
Touche.
“What is the purpose of intelligence if not to independently investigate the truth of all matters?”… The hierarchy of needs would suggest that selfish motivations may be applicable…Money, prestige, to be accepted as part of a special group, etc
Thank you for this post. It is helpful to us all that nut-cases like Lewandowsky and the ‘slayers’ are put in their place by people of good faith of any opinion, and particularly good to see it coming from someone with a leading position in the Met Office.
The sooner extremist can be put in their box and everyone else can converge on the sensible ‘Lomberg’ view that climate change is a problem best solved by many $billions on energy research, not $trillions of lost output, the better.
Disingenuous and not at all scientific to simply say “it is not so”. Dr Betts , your disavowing any influence by thoughtful sceptics who have been more right about climate than you is most insulting. You are essentially saying the contrarians got it right by accident. We have been pointing out climate variability for at least a decade and been vilified and pooh pooped until the dreaded pause. We have been hammering lower cli. sensitivity. We introduced you to enso and the other oscillations as significant affects.
I believe your response proof of one of Lew’s
effects. You fear that if you were truthful about sceptic’s influence you would supporting L&O’s thesis, seepage, or even all three?
Gary P
You have this correct:
“You are essentially saying the contrarians got it right by accident.”
This is an essential observation. In reply, skeptics can say that the chance association of CO2 rise and warming from 1992 through 1998 was also an accident, but I believe we are on firmer ground.
1992-1998 was literally coincidental, and by now we observe that it was not causal. Taking 1992-1998 and 1992-2015 as examples, the first finds coincidence and the second finds none.
Pick any other starting time, but always end in 2015. Calculate the correlation coefficient. Extra CO2 is not very influential at 400 ppm.
A separate matter but mentioned so it is fair game, is the ocean heat angle. Notice that it was not about heat in the system until the temperature started levelling off. Then it went from an intensive measurement (Degrees C) to an extensive measurement (Joules). So all along it was really about the energy not the temperature!
Should we be afraid of the energy in the Earths climate system? Most people don’t know the difference between heat energy and temperature so they are ‘guided’ by ‘seepage’ of CAGW ‘memes’ to think that an increase in the energy content of the oceans means an increase in temperature of the atmosphere. Measurements show otherwise. Who among us is surprised?
I think that the problem here is what Gilbert Ryle called a ‘Category mistake’.
No ‘sceptic’ (well, certainly not me) has a problem with ‘climate science’ as science. Honest enquiry is what science is about, and none of us have problems with an argument based in fact.Where we have a problem is with climate politics masquerading as science.
There is a lot of discussion about ‘what sceptics believe’, listing various amounts of warming and various mechanisms as either in or out of this camp. But in fact it’s much simpler. Sceptics believe that environmental activist groups have latched on to this area of science as providing support for their political views. They have effectively hijacked the scientific reputation of independence and accuracy, and used it to drive a political aim. In many cases this involves misinterpretation or exaggeration of the original science.
Most of this debasing of scientific findings is done in the political sphere (which includes the IPCC committee structure). Reasonable papers are presented by activists in a one-sided manner, and conclusions are partially reported in order to exaggerate. But some of it is being done by (a few) scientists who have found that they can obtain funding and fame much more readily if their findings are ‘politically acceptable’.
Our major concern is with this process – and not the details of the science, which I suspect will continue to provide findings capable of multiple interpretation for many years to come. I hope that Professor Betts can see the difference…
Dodgy Geezer
That is an excellent post! Truly excellent!
I hope everybody reads it.
And Fanakapan provided another excellent post in another WUWT thread yesterday.
We can have mutually respectful disagreements from which we can all learn when we have presentation of a variety of clear and considered information and opinions.
So, it is really good when we can see good posts providing clear and considered information and opinions instead of the many posts providing deliberate disinformation from the trolls who so often infest WUWT.
Richard
For those who are not using this term ‘category mistake’ (or ‘error’) in their daily life, a very brief explanation may assist the esteemed readership.
A category mistake is when something is assigned an attribute it cannot have. That is a standard definition. An example is, “He slept vigorously.” Sleep does not have and cannot have the attribute of ‘vigour’.
There are, however, many varieties of category error. For example, the temperature of the planet is the result of a number of contributing variables. Let’s say, for simplicity, we find the contributors are:
CO2 and other greenhouse gas concentrations
Cloudiness
Insolation and radiation (albedo, for example)
GCRs and Solar CRs
Electrical charge in the atmosphere at the poles
The heat content of the oceans and its distribution (or lack of)
The total effect of these necessary contributing factors is a global temperature, however constructed.
To make a Category Mistake (or Category Error) is to assign to one of the contributing variables all responsibility for the resulting effect.
This is a particular type of category error called a synecdoche [siˈnekdəkē] which is the error of attributing a feature of the whole to one of its parts, or vise versa. An example is, “Advance further and ye shall taste my steel.” The sword has been described using only one of its attributes – that it is made from steel.
Thus attributing to CO2 the responsibility of an increase in global temperature, when it is only a contributing factor, is a synecdoche.
It is also a synecdoche to mainly attribute to CO2 any rise in temperature because it is pretty obvious by now (the pause) that there must be other powerful, overwhelming, influences on temperature. It was not possible prior to the pause to say with confidence that CO2 is not the main contributor. But now, after 18 years (duration depends on who you ask) that proposition has been invalidated.
There are those of us who have good reason to believe that not only does CO2 not warm the surface all by itself, it does not warm it at all. Too bad that voicing that outlook here is against site policy.
I am not not at sure you can let climate ‘science’ off that way, remember the Team is made up of climate scientists and plenty who may not have indulge in poor professional and personal behaviour have been more than happy to keep their mouths shut, and noses in the funding bucket , over those that have .
Meanwhile despite it be true for years, I am still amazed at the shockingly low standards which seem to be acceptable in this area , so low that they never be OK for undergraduate handing in an essay in any other science, but are not merely fine but celebrated, if their effective , in this area .
The [track] record of climate ‘science’ is awful while you cannot question that is area has a massive vested interest in keeping one particular view of CAGW going. If it comes across like barrel of rotten fish its because it really does look and smell like one , even if there some good ones in there.
This is a head-butt between science and politics
Once again WUWT rushed through an epic posting (22 points ect) No one will look at it once its shelved below.
Prof. Betts makes several good points and contributes another spadeful of soil atop the remains of L&O’s “research”.
However, he does raise a question in my mind when he points out that:
The question is whether similar high-profile efforts by the UK/EU climate science community have been focussed on low end, primarily beneficial warming projections favored by sceptics?
@richard verney:
it was:
“What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multidecadal natural fluctuation? They’ll kill us probably …”
and the person was Tommy Wills.
Harry
When you sup with the devil you should use a long spoon. One of the features of the CAGW debate to date has been the deafening silence of climate scientists when journalists and Green NGOs have presented their scientific results and/or theories in an alarmist manner in order to further their own agendas. This has led to a view amongst the public that the science supports these extremist views, and while this has kept the funding rolling in and therefore their administrators happy, it must have caused any real scientists to examine their consciences. Now we have reached the point where reality is making the exaggerated claims increasingly difficult to justify from a scientific standpoint and the cracks are starting to appear. This seems at last to be an admission from the climate-science establishment of the uncertainty in results and hypotheses that all true scientists should be aware of and publicly acknowledge. That it has been forced to do that to defend itself from charges of being too timid in proclaiming the true faith is a sad reflection on the moral backbone of government-funded science. Better late than never perhaps, but some of us will find it difficult to forgive what has been allowed to happen.
The big question which is giving most climate scientists sleepless nights is : How can we move away from our current position and still retain control?
It seems to me that many have predicted what we are now seeing:
As the position of the warmistas begins to become ever more untenable, there will be a variety of reactions, with some increasing the drumbeat of doom and becoming ever more shrill, attempts were made to completely silence critics of the True Faith by Any Means Necessary, some others backtracking and staking out a position on the fence, while still others fled like rats from a sinking ship.
I believe we are seeing the first cracks in the façade, so to speak, as the more forward looking see the writing on the wall and begin the granddaddy of all CYA campaigns.
I believe it will soon enough be apparent who are the True Believers, who are the Greedy Liars, who are merely uninformed followers, and who are the Real Bastards.