Eric Worrall writes:
Reuters reports that the upcoming COP21 Paris climate conference, widely hyped by greens and politicians to be the conference which will achieve the great international climate breakthrough, is already in trouble – that the USA is one of the few countries which could be bothered to submit their climate action plan homework by the agreed deadline.
According to Reuters;
“… emitters such as China, India, Russia, Brazil, Canada and Australia say they are waiting until closer to a Paris summit in December, meant to agree a global deal.
“It’s not the ideal situation,” said Niklas Hoehne, founding partner of the New Climate Institute in Germany which tracks submissions, known as Intended Nationally Determined Contributions (INDCs).
In 2013, the United Nations invited INDCs by March 31, 2015, from governments “ready to do so” – the early, informal deadline was meant to give time to compare pledges and toughen weak ones.
Late submissions complicate the Paris summit because it will be far harder to judge late INDCs.
“The earlier the better,” said Jake Schmidt, of the U.S. National Resources Defense Council. “It allows people to look at each others’ targets and judge whether or not they pass muster.”
The White House official noted that both the United States and China already outlined plans last year, saying: “That adds up to a fantastic running start.”
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/03/29/climatechange-emissions-idINKBN0MP0D020150329
The lack of enthusiasm by major CO2 emitters strongly suggests that the Paris meeting will simply be a dreary repeat of the pointless Lima circus – but then, we already knew that, didn’t we?
Paris meeting will simply be a dreary repeat of the pointless Lima circus
I do hope so.
The French President wants COP21 to be a success — by generating a lot of income from the thousands of eco-tourists expected. Of course these tourists are expected to leave no CO2 footprints.
another ‘Grenelle de l’environnement” – that’s all – and they expect obtaining people voting for them in december and in 2017 (“fafa” fabius)
A pilgrimage for the uneducated, self-righteous fools!
What possible benefit is there for a country to show their hand early?
The expectation that anyone would submit their proposals 9 months before they have to is bizarre.
The City of Paris can bearly afford to pay for street lights at night, let alone anything else. In fact it was reported about a year ago that street lights would be turned off, too, errm…”save the planet”. Truth is, it’s broke!
It’s bad enough walking through Paris in the day, but at night, without light? I’ll pass on that Paris! You can keep your animal urine and excrement, and human spitting and clearing of nasal passaged on the street right out side where I am eating dinner! I wonder if Paris has changed since 1982?
A bit off topic, but related. If these folks actually believe what they claim to believe, why isn’t this Paris confab being conducted primarily by teleconferencing?
My predictions of the outcome of the Paris 2015 COP 21 have been previously published in January –
”December 2015
At the Paris climate negotiations, hampered by heavy snowfalls, the parties come to a historic compromise agreement to hold next year’s meeting in Barbados.
And Barbados is a compromise. The Chinese stall negotiation by asking for the moon, literally. The Chinese argue that lunar orbit is the perfect place for 2016 delegates to observe the utter insignificance of human effects on climate. While other delegates generally agree that China is a impoverished developing nation that should be allowed to emit CO2 forever, the location is rejected. Other nations argue that the lunar location discriminates against other impoverished developing nations that, unlike China, do not have the space launch capability to reach lunar orbit.
Australia’s suggestion of a low cost international teleconference is also dismissed when the issue of adverse impacts on the struggling airline and pre-mix Pina Colada industries is raised.
It is agreed that Barbados still involves extensive first class airline travel. Also that delegates will still be able to at least view the moon. From the beach at night. While holding a Pina Colada in a pineapple. Finally it is the acknowledgement that, unlike December in Paris, the only umbrellas required will be purely decorative that gets the Barbados vote over the line at 3.00am”
– I stand by this prediction.
Suppose they gave a (climate council) war, and everybody forgot to come?
In a repeat scene from “Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines…
Up down flying around,
Looping the loop, and defying the ground.
They’re all frightfully keen,
those magnificent manns in their CarbDox machines” – (illustrations by M. Searle)
CAGW is old news. The new hot button crusade coming up is water. Been reading a couple breathkess, gasping puff pieces about how the governments of the world have to unite to meetthis crisis. I also read that several forward thinking cities in the US are considering plans for taxing hotel guests by their water use, blah, blah, blah. The rogue EPA awarded a grant to some university to develop a wireless digital water monitoring system for uuse inhotels, etc.
We hear that x or y terrible thing is about to, or is happening (in the headlines) because of climate change then in the substance of the article find that it hasn’t really happened yet. (The general format of these press releases is that the finding is based on research based on some models that that an academic has developed funded by a government grant and based on IPCC models that even the IPCC has admitted are flawed). How much more can the public stomach of this insane hysteria? Science is becoming a laughing stock and so are bodies such as the IPCC and the UN. But on and on they go with no shame and even less evidence in the hope it will convince us all to surrender to their “wonderful new green world vision” that will save the planet. I presume they then intend to rule the world. Has anyone thought about the consequences of these crazy green zealots and their money hungry parasites ruling the world? Eeek!
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Patrick
March 30, 2015 at 2:33 am
While the English were building water treatment facilities, the French were living in human “guano”.
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One of the greatest palaces ever made in France, Versailles, the root cause of the “Revolution”, was, in effect, a “toilet” for the “elite”. They simply “shat” where they stood!
Paris maybe “beautiful” now, but it was a carphole when I was last there. As is said, a reputation is hard to create but very easy to destroy. And the French did destroy well!”
You’ve forgotten frogs and snails. The french like them so much that some exporting countries, e.g. Bangla Desh, have to buy additional pesticides. The frogs used to devour the pests in the fields and kept the anopheles larvae down, but now the frogs end on french and belgian tables without doing what they have really been created to do.
Do you trust people who like frogs and snails so much that they eat them?
For the sake of the frogs and snails of the world, and for some more obvious reasons, boycott COP21!
/sarc? off
Given the long track record of such sabotage, I would expect the trade unions to bring Paris to a halt that week – for once I’ll be cheering them on. Going to be chaos anyway with countries competing to have the longest motorcades, poshest hotels, biggest entourages.
“Non Nomen
March 30, 2015 at 3:15 am”
Snails were one of the first “animals” farmed by humans (Think about it. They are not “rapid” are they?). We found better animals to farm. Plenty of evidence to support this post. I’ll leave snails to the French, insects to the Asians and take my beef, lamb and pig as it should be! No apple, no mint, just cooked as it should be!
“It allows people to look at each others’ targets and judge whether or not they pass muster.”
So basically it gives them more time to berate and bully those who don’t toe the party line.
When is the next conference hosted by heartland?
I am more interested in that.
At Copenhagen, the Chinese covered their chagrin at the failure of the shakedown of the developed countries by raging about the neo-colonial manipulations of one Obama. There will be no such problem at Paris; Obama has conceded the US’s status as colony to China.
The most interesting developing coalition is the BRICs and two former colonial Anglophone countries.
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I would like our Canadian PM to tell them that Canada isn’t going to play their country-judgeing game.
If they complain then stop all funding to the UN and order all UN personnel in Canada out of the country.
Enviro-Hajj 2015!
There is danger lurking in this conference that is to be taken seriously.
Obama lusts for executive actions and would love to hold up an agreement as evidence of his leadership on the world stage. This, in turn unleashes agencies to write regulatory rules in any way or fashion to flank Congress.
As we approach the Presidential election, expect it to be a rallying cry for the democrats to get out their base vote.
COP 21 Rossi is getting more than that in ssm .(self sustained mode.)
With his commercial LENR 1Mw plant.
Soon this will be as water under a bridge.
I am sure they want to go along but a lot of countries will be washing their hair that night.
Oh Bummer is leading from the front.
He is in the driver’s seat.
Oops – we just hit a train and we are about to go over the precipice.
Oh, the poor, poor darlings. All those hotels booked, the champagne ordered, the after parties organised and then the post conference holiday booked and the family coming over and all for not very much except some global ridicule. Life can be so cruel. Who would be a climate scientist?
Lots of increased 1st class air travel and expensive hotel bookings though