Irony alert – wind turbine involved in petroleum spill at sea

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Walney Wind Farm under construction in 2011

Hazard to navigation?

Danish ‘Safety Ship’ OMS Pollux, leaking oil after colliding with Morecambe Bay wind turbine

A SHIP is leaking diesel after crashing into a wind turbine off the coast of Morecambe Bay.

Liverpool Coastguard has been in attendance since just after 9am this morning co-ordinating the recovery of the stricken vessel which collided with part of a turbine at Walney Wind Farm.

walney_wind_farmOMS Pollux has since been leaking marine gas oil, or diesel.

The Danish-registered vessel, with a crew of around 18 on board, remains afloat and there are no reported injuries.

The coastguard revealed that since hitting the turbine pile it has managed to move under its own power to a location north of the port of Liverpool, taking it away from ‘environmentally sensitive areas’.

http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/11410963.Ship_leaking_oil_after_colliding_with_Morecambe_Bay_wind_turbine/?ref=rss

h/t to WUWT reader “saveenergy”

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njsnowfan

So the “Bird Choppers” are now “Boat Choppers”, interesting. They want to put hundreds Bird/Boat Choppers off the NJ coast in the next few years. http://www.doi.gov/news/pressreleases/interior-department-achieves-another-milestone-for-offshore-commercial-wind-energy-development-in-new-jersey.cfm Entire East coast http://www.boem.gov/
Will not be a good situation with all the boat traffic and Fog.

Bloke down the pub

I do hope the wind turbine wasn’t damaged…much.

See? All ships should be banned!
But then how do they get the windmills in the middle of the sea?

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley

It isn’t irony (sorry to be pedantic). Irony is when the opposite occurs of something intended. ‘Situational irony’ is much misunderstood, and (sorry to say this) but Americans not only over-use the word, but get it wrong EVERY time (drives us Brits mad). The brilliant comedy TV series, Frasier, often got it so wrong that it became embarrassing. Always remember; It’s not ironic if you get run over by an ambulance, but it IS ironic if you get run over by an ambulance coming to your assistance.

ozspeaksup

ROFLMAO!!!!
now thats bloody funny!
and was the skipper blind?
or blind drunk?
or are the turbines camo coloured sos not to upset something some ecoloon thought might be scared?
theyre not exactly small objects are they?
how? how?
my sides hurt laughing so much

John Law

It’s a start but to get to a really productive position, we will need to introduce a method involving Semtex.
We can then restore our once wonderful Irish Sea vista from the North Wales coast!

sherlock1

It was only a matter of time…!
Now, lets have a fully laden supertanker going at full speed with the watch officer having a kip…

meltemian

Sounds like ‘Sod’s Law’ to me, if it’s there somethings going to hit it sooner or later!

Reblogged this on gottadobetterthanthis and commented:
Wind blows. Windmills suck.

Nylo

ozspeaksup says:
August 15, 2014 at 4:32 am
theyre not exactly small objects are they?
Neither are they exactly silent, I may add!

Ken Hall

I shall pop over and have a look at this. I live very near Walney.

Armagh Observatory

Ghost of Big Jim is incorrect by his own definition of irony.
The wind farms were intended to “save the planet” from anthropogenic environmental damage (whatever that means)
A ship crashes into one and as a result, is leaking oil into Morecambe Bay.
It is in fact, the equivalent of being run over by an ambulance coming to your assistance.
Anthony’s use of the word “irony” is correct in this instance, despite being American.
**Pedant mode off**
🙂

Andrew

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley says: blahblah
It is irony because the thing they thought would save the environment has caused damage to the environment. So there.

Solomon Green

Slightly tangential but this article might be helpful to some who are fighting planning permissions for onshore wind or solar farms in the UK.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/fracking/11034270/Wind-farm-needs-700-times-more-land-than-fracking-site.html

johnmarshall

Had to happen and hit by a ”safety ship”. How safe is that? One way to get back some of the subsidy paid over paid to the Danish Power Co. that, I presume, installed these inefficient monstrosities.
Yes, semtex sounds a good idea to give that extra nudge. (tissue a’tissue they all fall over)

johnmarshall

Subsidy repaid through a massive fine. (please add to above)

jones

Irony is such an ironic thing….

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7

It’s really hard to make a comment on a news article so completely lacking in obvious and necessary detail, something reporters were at one time expected to learn before they ever got a byline.
(1) was the vessel attending to the turbine in some way or just navigating through the area?
(2) did the vessel impact the turbine pylon, or was it hit by one of the turbine blades?
(3) were there any injuries to the crew? [none stated, but it should have been]
(4) was there any damage to the turbine? [none stated].
It sounds like the hull impacted the pylon; a vessel with a crew of 18 probably isn’t high enough above the waterline to intersect the blade sweep.
The major concern of the article seems to be the fuel spill, and that the leaking vessel is now safely away from “environmentally sensitive” areas. If the turbine location is “environmentally sensitive” one must wonder at the impact of putting the thing there in the first place.

Chris4692

I make nothing more of this than I do of the environmentalists that decry every train derailment and every pipeline leak as a major reason to stop looking for oil or gas.

sherlock1

The additional irony is that it was a Danish vessel – Denmark having a huge offshore wind turbine ‘fleet’ – so you would’ve thought the skipper knew how to avoid the things…

WJohn

At the first attempt to call for assistance the coastguard officer assumed it was a hoax when he asked for identity and the Danish captain said ” O Pollux”

mikewaite

Nothing about this on the BBC website that I can find.
Strange because yesterday the North West local news spent a lot of time with anti-fracking demonstrators and objectors, so oil threats to the environment might be thought to be significant news. Apparently some oil threats are excusable.
There was a plan to extend the area of wind farms off- shore from Lancashire and Cumbria to create an area the size of the Isle of Man. It was objected to by ferry companies operating between Eire , Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and North Wales as a hazard to shipping.
I think that the plans may have been put on hold for the moment , perhaps this incident could make the Govt reconsider.
There are other plans to completely surround England with wind farms . The only good thing about that is , unlike poor Ukraine, we will never be invaded by Putin , his ships would never make it through the wind turbines.

Alan Robertson

Wind power deals blow to oil industry
Rare tiny sea creature at risk
Greens rally to ban tanker traffic
More news at 10

jonesingforozone

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley says:
August 15, 2014 at 4:31 am
It isn’t irony (sorry to be pedantic)…

Every time weather gets too hot or too cold for those quixotic beasts to turn, its ironic that costly, wasteful, quick-start natural gas turbines take up the slack.

dccowboy

“Americans not only over-use the word, but get it wrong EVERY time (drives us Brits mad).”
Hey, at least we’re consistent. 🙂 Your point is well taken. The other word that I find ‘us’ Americans overusing, and using wrong EVERY time (almost) is ‘semantics’.

Oldseadog

Alan Watt,
Size of crew is no indication – there are ships carrying 15,000 tons of liquid cargo with a crew if 15.

Oldseadog

Go to http://www.nordicoffshore.com/nordic-offshore-projects/vessels for a picture and details of the vessel.

Oldseadog

Don’t know why the link above doesn’t appear in blue – sorry.
Mods?

Oldseadog

http://www.nordicoffshore.com/nordic-offshore-projects/vessels
One dot too many.
[And three w w w ‘s too few. 8<) .mod]

DonS

@ WJohn says: Now, THAT’S funny. Of course I had to spend a good few nights in Brit pubs to “get” it.

Pamela Gray

The Magna Carta became the bedrock for our Declaration Of Independence. Now that’s ironic. Top that Brit. She said sweetly.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/magna_carta/legacy.html

That ship is luckier than the millions of bats and birds that get killed colliding with windmill blades. Some have suggested that they are eliminating our Whooping Crane population, an endangered species for the past 60 years.

kenin

That’s ok, it go’s well with the tailing pond breach out in northern British Columbia. Look at it this way: it gives the economy a boost. Now they can contract out some company to fix the mess and the turbine.
We should have more spills of that nature. God damn petroleum, how else are we going to live.
clearly i’m being sarcastic…

PaulH

As noted above, there is very little detail in the article. I am no fan of these hideous, inefficient and unreliable windmills, and placing them with little regard for navigation is nuts. But, once installed they don’t move around. Did the ship encounter a tempest and was tossed into a windmill? Was is it a navigational error? A problem like that could have tossed the ship upon the rocks, but perhaps a windmill was in the way?
Just wondering…

UK Sceptic

Oh that’s wonderful news. I live in a village on the southern tip of Morecambe Bay and it’s bad enough those many off-shore eco-crucifixes (J. Delingpole ™) blight the view but now they’ve proved themselves to be the hazard to navigation on the approach to the very busy port at Heysham that we’ve feared.
I wondered what the unusual activity was when I walked my dog on the beach this morning. Now I know.
Nothing on the local rag’s website about this (The Blackpool Evening Gazette). So far only the Westmorland Gazette has reported it but not in any great detail and the story comes across as derisory; a nothing-to-see-here attribution. As another commenter pointed out, the local (NW Lancashire) hacks slavishly report everything the local anti-frackers do and say yet about the collision with a turbine….crickets.
It was different when the River Dance container vessel ran aground off Anchorsholme (North of Balckpool) a few years ago. The Gazette was all over that story like a rash.

rogerknights

Oldseadog says:
August 15, 2014 at 6:05 am
Don’t know why the link above doesn’t appear in blue – sorry.
Mods?

There was no leading www or http.

tadchem

I expect the environmentalists failed to anticipate this ‘impact.’
The Liverpool fogs are every bit as opaque (and possibly even more frequent) as those of London, albeit less publicized.
Who are the geniuses (genii?) who thought you could put these obstacles out in the water and NOT have them struck by boats?

Greg Goodman

“It is in fact, the equivalent of being run over by an ambulance coming to your assistance.”
No, it’s more like driving into a parked ambulance whilst going to the shops.
Sounds like the maritime equivalent of a tree crossing the road.
Was anyone on the bridge when this happened? If they did not see some thing that size what chance of seeing any small vessels they might ‘wander’ into?
Skipper was probably in the showers discussing his ‘yardarm’ with the first mate.

Greg Goodman

Danish ‘Safety Ship’ OMS Pollux… OMS Bollocks, more like.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7

Oldseadog says:
August 15, 2014 at 6:04 am

Go to http://www.nordicoffshore.com/nordic-offshore-projects/vessels for a picture and details of the vessel.

If this ship is named the Pollux, inquiring minds want to know if there is a sister ship named the Castor. An offshore industry service vessel named Castor leaking oil in an environmentally sensitive area, that would be funny!.
See here for the mythology origin of these names.

Reblogged this on Cornwall Wind Watch and commented:
the “greens” will have some sort of excuse for this we’re sure. Boats collide with rocks all the time, so what’s your point etc etc

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley

Armagh and Andrew. Without wishing to get into a debate here on the English language, I’m afraid you are both incorrect – and you probably know that you are. The turbines are not out to ‘save the planet’. If they were, then technically it could be situational irony. But it isn’t. Turbines are merely an alternative to fossil fuel in generating electricity. If a ship sent to clean up an oil spill released oil, then that would be ironic. But a tanker colliding with an alternative form of generating power simply is NOT ironic. Irony is always the OPPOSITE of what was intended, not an alternative to, nor a coincidence, or a chance happening. The word, ‘literally’ has recently been adapted to suit modern use (shamefully so, in my opinion). Let’s not watch without comment when words are misused, it degrades the language rather than adding to it.
Pamela. No, using the Magna Carta as a base for your Constitution is not ironic. Sorry, yet another example of an American not understanding the word. No offence intended.

Alan Bates

Mods
I have had number of crashes. I sent a comment. If it is duplicated please feel free to remove and replace with:
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I found more information about the collision using Google News, search term: walney wind farm. There is a good write up in the NW News (url 3 lines long; find it on the first page of the search, along with other stories).

Luther Bl't

The British sense of the word irony leaves us Brits with only the problem of finding an American with a sense of irony. American use of the word is more problematic since, on the face of it, it is quasi-heterological (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grelling%E2%80%93Nelson_paradox) – that is to say, if it something is ironic (in America), it is by definition not ironical. I am reluctant to infer the other way, that something said (in America) that is said or written with a straight face, is or must in fact be ironical. (Albeit my reluctance decreases with every year I spend on the internet).

Slade

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley says:
August 15, 2014 at 4:31 am
It isn’t irony (sorry to be pedantic). Irony is when the opposite occurs of something intended. ‘Situational irony’ is much misunderstood, and (sorry to say this) but Americans not only over-use the word, but get it wrong EVERY time (drives us Brits mad). The brilliant comedy TV series, Frasier, often got it so wrong that it became embarrassing. Always remember; It’s not ironic if you get run over by an ambulance, but it IS ironic if you get run over by an ambulance coming to your assistance.
_____________________________________________________________________________
I have to disagree with you, I would consider being hit by an ambulance something designed to help people to be ironic even if it wasn’t coming to save you.

Johanus

Ghost of Big Jim said:
“The turbines are not out to ‘save the planet’.”
Of course they’re not. You employing metonymy when it’s not the context of the discussion. Turbines (and other inanimate objects) do not have intentions.
But the people who put the turbines there thought they were saving the planet. I’m sure they didn’t intend these turbines to be the cause of environmentally threatening oil spills.
Ironic isn’t it?

jones

Well I think there’s an enormous streak of hipocrisy with the Gores et-al private-jetting around the globe.
Or is it hypocrisy?..Or hypocrysy?…
Well I’m going with my first version….Don’t care…

ralfellis

I did wonder about these hazards. I was crossing the English Channel last week, and we came very close to some windelecs (turbines). We were in calm daylight conditions, so no problem, but in rough weather at night the story might be different.
Ralph

stan stendera

You mods are going to snip what I would like to do to wind turbines so I’m not going to write it. I will say my desire involves civil disobedience.
[This is true. Civil disobedience, unlawful behavior, and just plan old awful behavior are not permitted. .mod]

Timebandit

I hope the 2 Nuclear power stations on the coast At Heysham, a small suburb of Morecambe are ok… erm… No… one was shut down last week after cracks were discovered in the boiler support struts.