This post was written last night, shortly after I received the document. It is autopublishing at 6AM EDT (3AM PDT) since I’ll hopefully be asleep here in California when the embargo time passes.
There were two documents provided to the press: a fact sheet/summary and the full plan. Both are available as PDF’s at the end of this essay. I see a lot of “pie in the sky” language in the plan document, with little in the way of concrete ideas. It seems just another expansion of “big government” bureaucracy with little tangible benefit to the American citizen.
This is by no means a complete point by point commentary, I’m just touching on things that caught my eye. Readers are encouraged to submit responses to specific points in the comments section below.
THE GOOD:
1. There is no carbon tax/excise tax increase on gasoline that I can find. Some people thought there may be a plan to tack on some sort of additional carbon tax for gasoline, or some pitch for the excise tax to be increased by congress.
2. The claim is made that “the President’s plan will help American families cut energy waste, lowering their gas and utility bills.”. A worthy goal to be sure, but, knowing that government doesn’t do anything well or efficiently, I seriously doubt we’ll see lower utility bills. I expect the opposite.
3. The plan “invests to strengthen our roads, bridges, and shorelines so we can better protect people’s homes, businesses, and way of life from severe weather.”. Hurricane Sandy would have had less impact if NYC had better sea defenses, so building up these long ignored issues is a no-brainer. But, at what cost and from what funding?
4. The plan “Commits to partnering with industry and stakeholders to develop fuel economy standards for heavy-duty vehicles to save families money at the pump and further reduce reliance on foreign oil and fuel consumption post-2018”. On the surface this seems good, because better fuel efficiency is always a good thing, but at the same time this might translate into an unreachable draconian CAFE standard that automakers don’t even have technology for now.
5. The plan calls for “investment in a range of energy technologies, from advanced biofuels and emerging nuclear technologies – including small modular reactors – to clean coal.” Biofuels are a waste of effort and money IMHO, small modular nukes sound good, as does clean coal. I like the clean coal part if only for the irritant factor it will be for the greens.
6. They haven’t declared fossil fuels to be evil. The plan says “Spurring Investment in Advanced Fossil Energy Projects: In the coming weeks, the Department of Energy will issue a Federal Register Notice announcing a draft of a solicitation that would make up to $8 billion in (self-pay) loan guarantee authority available for a wide array of advanced fossil energy projects under its Section 1703 loan guarantee program.” Again, that will tweak the greens.
7. There’s no mention of the KXL pipeline at all, but there is this bit of language:
“In addition, when it comes to the oil and gas sector, investments to build and upgrade gas pipelines will not only put more Americans to work, but also reduce emissions and enhance economic productivity.” The document then goes on to mention the Bakken Oil field as an example, but seems not limited to this.
My take on this: I think what is going on here with this document is that Obama is throwing environmentalists a bone, especially with coal power plant restrictions mentioned, while at the same time telegraphing that KXL is likely to happen. As I’ve said before, the Canadian Tar Sands oil will get burned someplace, and the USA may as well take advantage of the opportunity.
8. Launching a Climate Data Initiative: Consistent with the President’s May 2013 Executive Order on Open Data – and recognizing that freely available open government data can fuel entrepreneurship, innovation, scientific discovery, and public benefits – the Administration is launching a Climate Data Initiative to leverage extensive federal climate-relevant data to stimulate innovation and private-sector entrepreneurship in support of national climate-change preparedness.
This sounds good, but I’m not sure it will do anything to improve the already shoddy surface temperature data. For example, NCDC spent millions on the Climate Reference Network, but has yet to even mention it in their monthly State of the Climate Reports.
9. Many of these things will take years to implement, and by then we might have some sanity in the White House. What can be done by executive order can be undone by executive order.
10. This plan is likely to put backlashes in place on Democrats from the citizenry, thus perhaps enabling a power shift in the Senate.
THE BAD:
1. More hand-outs for an already bloated climate science culture.
Developing Actionable Climate Science: The President’s Fiscal Year 2014 Budget provides more than $2.7 billion, largely through the 13-agency U.S. Global Change Research Program, to increase understanding of climate-change impacts, establish a public-private partnership to explore risk and catastrophe modeling, and develop the information and tools needed by decision-makers to respond to both long-term climate change impacts and near-term effects of extreme weather.
Apparently Obama never got the memo that climate models aren’t working.
2. More regulations on existing power plants, as if they don’t have enough already. This will translate into higher electricity prices everywhere.
President Obama is issuing a Presidential Memorandum directing the Environmental Protection Agency to work expeditiously to complete carbon pollution standards for both new and existing power plants. This work will build on the successful first-term effort to develop greenhouse gas and fuel economy standards for cars and trucks.
Great, I can just see the warning sticker on my next new car. Warning: This vehicle emits dangerous carbon pollution known to the Federal Government to cause bad weather. A tax is paid at purchase to mitigate your contribution to bad weather by daring to own this vehicle.
3. Pie in the sky savings.
Establishing a New Goal for Energy Efficiency Standards: In President Obama’s first term, the Department of Energy established new minimum efficiency standards for dishwashers, refrigerators, and many other products. Through 2030, these standards will cut consumers’ electricity bills by hundreds of billions of dollars and save enough electricity to power more than 85 million homes for two years. To build on this success, the Administration is setting a new goal: Efficiency standards for appliances and federal buildings set in the first and second terms combined will reduce carbon pollution by at least 3 billion metric tons cumulatively by 2030 – equivalent to nearly one-half of the carbon pollution from the entire U.S. energy sector for one year – while continuing to cut families’ energy bills.
Yeah, people are going to just rush right out and buy new appliances in this economy. That’s the ticket. Better efficiency is a good thing, but I think the adoption rate will be slower than they think.
4. Outright lies. (from the fact sheet)
“In the President’s first term, the Department of Energy and the Department of Housing and Urban Development completed efficiency upgrades in more than one million homes, saving many families more than $400 on their heating and cooling bills in the first year alone.”
Really? Where? In the greenest state of the union, California, my electricity bill has increased since 2008. I recently put solar on my home not as a climate hedge, but as a hedge against skyrocketing electricity rates.
5. The trucking industry is going to get hit again. This will translate into higher cost for goods.
During the President’s second term, the Administration will once again partner with industry leaders and other key stakeholders to develop post-2018 fuel economy standards for heavy-duty vehicles to further reduce fuel consumption through the application of advanced cost-effective technologies and continue efforts to improve the efficiency of moving goods across the United States.
6. Fast-tracking green energy – more pie in the sky since just about every green initiative and handout in Obama’s first term has ended in failure.
Accelerating Clean Energy Permitting: In 2012 the President set a goal to issue permits for 10 gigawatts of renewables on public lands by the end of the year. The Department of the Interior achieved this goal ahead of schedule and the President has directed it to permit an additional 10 gigawatts by 2020. Since 2009, the Department of Interior has approved 25 utility-scale solar facilities, nine wind farms, and 11 geothermal plants, which will provide enough electricity to power 4.4 million homes and support an estimated 17,000 jobs.
Green jobs aren’t generally like real jobs, there’s usually a handout or subsidy tied to them, and they tend to be transient, because after the solar field or wind farm is built, what then?
7. No comprehensive nuclear power plan, no mention of a Thorium reactor initiative, much like China is doing. A Thorium power initiative would go a long way to having safe, clean, and reliable electricity infrastructure without this nuclear waste issues that plague Uranium based reactors. Instead, they are chasing after wasteful biofuels initiatives which will do little. Have a bad crop year? Sorry, you can’t fill up with biodiesel.
8. Giveaways.
Mobilizing Climate Finance: International climate finance is an important tool in our efforts to promote low-emissions, climate-resilient development. We have fulfilled our joint developed country commitment from the Copenhagen Accord to provide approximately $30 billion of climate assistance to developing countries over FY 2010-FY 2012. The United States contributed approximately $7.5 billion to this effort over the three year period.
9. Higher prices at the pump.
President Obama is calling for the elimination of U.S. fossil fuel tax subsidies in his Fiscal Year (FY) 2014 budget, and we will continue to collaborate with partners around the world toward this goal.
This will of course get passed on to consumers.
THE UGLY:
1. Multiple citations of the crazy idea that carbon dioxide is “carbon pollution”, when it is essential to almost all life on Earth.
The phrase “carbon pollution” is mentioned 21 times.
2. Equating carbon dioxide to mercury and arsenic, which is just nuts.
Cut Carbon Pollution in America: In 2012, U.S. carbon emissions fell to the lowest level in two decades even as the economy continued to grow. To build on this progress, the Obama Administration is putting in place tough new rules to cut carbon pollution – just like we have for other toxins like mercury and arsenic – so we protect the health of our children and move our economy toward American-made clean energy sources that will create good jobs and lower home energy bills.
3. Elevating a fake crisis.
While this progress is encouraging, climate change is no longer a distant threat – we are already feeling its impacts across the country and the world. Last year was the warmest year ever in the contiguous United States and about one-third of all Americans experienced 10 days or more of 100-degree heat. The 12 hottest years on record have all come in the last 15 years. Asthma rates have doubled in the past 30 years and our children will suffer more asthma attacks as air pollution gets worse. And increasing floods, heat waves, and droughts have put farmers out of business, which is already raising food prices dramatically.
No mention or recognition of the siting issues and adjustments that lead to these temperatures:
The claim of “The 12 hottest years on record have all come in the last 15 years.” isn’t supported by the state all time high temperature records, it only exists in the highly adjusted national average.
This graph by Alabama State Climatologist, Dr. John Christy:
It also isn’t supported in the general population of stations, this graph is by Greg Carbin of NOAA:
And asthma attacks? Really? Pollution levels are down since the 1970’s. Unless you live in China, air pollution is now far less than what it once was.
Summary:
I’m not impressed at all with the Obama plan. It lacks real vision, and seems written mainly to appease activist groups. While there are some glimmers of positive things in it, the lack of a real way forward (solar, biofuels, and wind aren’t it) combined with new restrictions can only mean higher energy prices in our future, most of it due to government meddling in the free market.
Like most everything from this president, it is likely to be mostly lip service and tied up in legal battles for years. By that time Obama will no longer be President, and we’ll be left to wrestle with the consequences.
The documents: (Thanks to Marc Morano of CFACT for getting access to these documents.)
President’s Climate Action Plan (PDF)
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Ok, since I’ve had 5 hours since I last wrote a comment about this I’ve had a bit more time to think about this; whatever your definition of the meaning of the word ‘this’ is.
Anyway, I drive an Italian car. A 23 year old Italian car. An Italian car with 128,000 miles on it. (I know what you’re thinking so stop it.) Anyway, any time I bring it to the shop (not an infrequent occurrence), well, they take a least 2 weeks to fix it. And that’s if they’ve done nothing. For instance, last month I took it to the shop because the battery was dead and asked them to check the alternator. How hard is that? Put a gauge on it; it’s charging or it’s not charging. Well, guess what? – they couldn’t find a problem. And it took ’em two weeks.
Why? I have a theory. You see, when I bring the car in the mechanics think to themselves, ‘no one in their right mind would ever rely on a 23 year old, 128K miles, Italian car for daily transportation so we can put it on the back burner and look at it when we have nothing to do.’ Well, guess what, yours truly does, does rely on it for daily transportation (although the definition of the word ‘daily’ has changed).
Now, be creative and try to apply the foregoing to the President’s Climate Change Action Plan. Since the whole CAGW thing is basically a 23 year old, high mileage Italian car that the climate scientists rely on for daily funding; we, the mechanics (I.e. money source) can recognize it for what it is, and put it on the back burner.
Good post and comments
But on balance is not this just a nothing announcement from Obama which just plays lip service to the discredited notion of AGM?
The actions he has taken are either meaningless waffle or scheduled to act in the far future.
He wants to build flood defences and this that and he other but a the same time he wants to cut government spending and borrowing. Is anything going to happen?
When you hear things like, ‘provide approximately $30 billion of climate assistance to developing countries over FY 2010-FY 2012. The United States contributed approximately $7.5 billion to this effort over the three year period.’ then you see why those on the gravy train want to keep it on the rails.
BTW – given that infrastructure was given a mention its also worth pointing out that civil engineers and civil engineering are also happy to fall in line for the hand louts.
John F. Hultquist says:
June 25, 2013 at 8:01 am
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“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.” [Rahm Emanuel]
Always keep a case of beer in your refrigerator. When the power goes out you can sit around and drink it – to protect it from getting warm.
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The irony is that there were adult beverages in my fridge but I has just told my 10 year old not to open the fridge and let the cold out !!!
Hoisted by my own petard !!!!
Dear Anthony,
I would appreciate any comment you have to this:
CC Climate alarmists, perhaps now you can relax.
The alarmists are right about the key claim fueling their panic engendered by their climate models; positive atmospheric moisture feedback.
This positive feedback has brought us out of the snowball earth, raised our average temperature by 31 C and allowed evolution of the higher forms of life on earth. Luckily a negative feedback mechanism* is also driven by atmospheric moisture feedback. Since it starts with the same phenomenon, temperature driven-water evaporation, it will always be available to match the positive feedback. Match is the key word. If the negative feedback had not reached a value to fully compensate for the positive feedback, the earth temperature would have continued to rise to values which would par broil the higher forms of life hundreds of millions of years ago. We know this is true because it is true. We see the evidence in all of our paleo-temperature measurements all the way up to our present day. The earth temperature** lies in a relatively narrow band between ice ages and climate ‘optimums’ such as we are presently enjoying. Ipso facto the earth climate physics has solved these feedback term equations whether we are presently able to measure, in a short term, these minute energy flows with adequate precision to prove it or not.
*Negative feedback from additional cloud formation due to increased cloud albedo(short wave reflection) and increased latent heat transport to the top of the troposphere in thunderheads where it can be radiated (long wave radiation) away into space is well understood.
** Variations in temperature driven by well understood external forcing by Milankovitch cycles and variations in solar radiation and coronal mass ejections. The very minor forcing from trace CO2 forcing is undetectable in the face of these the natural forceings which the earth’s self regulatory feedback mechanism has withstood for eons.
talking about respecting the embargo…
The Athabaska sands were called “tar sands” by those who first visited them, because the sand bitumen mixture resembled what they knew as tar.
But the oil and gas industry refers to formations according to the product they are extracting from them. Thus we have “gas sands”, “oil shales”, “gas shales”, and of course “oil sands”.
The econazi movement has decided that “tar” sounds vaguely less salubrious than “oil”, so they use the term “tar sands” exclusively as a pejorative.
Another question for President Obama does he intend to divert money away from the US defense budget to fight Climate Change instead.
There is nothing wrong in reducing our industrial air pollutants which have an adverse effect on human health and environment. Our air quality index defines these as GROUND LEVEL OZONE, FINE PARTICULATE MATTER, NITROGEN DIOXIDE, SULPHUR DIOXIDE, CARBON MONOXIDE, and TOTAL SULPHUR REDUCED COMPOUNDS. Ground level ozone is formed by a chemical reaction between nitrogen dioxide [NOx] and volatile organic compounds [VOx] in the presence of sun light. Ground level ozone and fine particulate matter are the main components of smog that plague our major cities world wide. We should strive to reduce these pollutants from our industrial emissions as our overall funds allow considering also all our other public priorities a well like jobs and a healthy economy. There is nothing wrong with a practical pollution control policy. The problem arose when pollution control was mixed in with a flawed climate science causing an unhealthy brew.
Notice that CARBON DIOXIDE is not among the pollutants since the medical profession does not consider carbon dioxide as a pollutant. nor is it part of any air quality index.
So if carbon dioxide is not a pollutant and if it is not causing global warming as predicted [17 years of rising CO2 levels with no impact on climate] then why are we still at this late stage spending billions of dollars trying to eliminate it? The problem is further compounded by forcing power generating plants to close prematurely prior to reaching the end of their useful or design life. We should upgrade them to the maximum level practical, let them finish their useful life and any NEW plants can then be constructed to new and cleaner technologies. No economy can withstand such waste of public tax money by wastefully and irresponsibly spending hard earned taxpayers funds to retool our energy supply at the changing whim of our political establishment with no real value to the public .
Good-2 and Bad-2 seem to be mutually exclusive
He and his staff really have no idea what is going on.
Sacrificing our economies on the barren altar of carbon strangulation is not even going to affect the climate.
Actionable science? The Left has waged a highly public semantic war since at least 1980. The fact that their bastard terminology could make it into a presidential address is, quite frankly, terrifying. “Actionable science” is an oxymoron on steroids. What the Left means by “actionable science” is science that dictates a particular action or set of actions. But science is understanding attained through empirical research conducted in accordance with scientific method. Our understanding of nature never compels us to act. The imperative to act comes into play only through our moral beliefs. Once again, the Left foolishly insists that scientific understanding dictates moral action. Once again, the Left has confused science with morality and religion. The Left remains in the shadow of the Eugenics movement.
CFI writes:
“I’m not fully convinced that a new ice age would actually shut them up, they would just try to ride it out.”
No. They will call it part of the warming process.
“Fightning” a non-existent problem…with non-existent solutions. Every intelligent, honest person knows it’s just a social agenda. Meanwhile, India has 300 million people without electricity. They have some 500- new coal fired plants in the works. And China builds 1 or 2 a week with our coal!!! Increasingly, the U.S. is becoming more and more irrelevant. And of course, that is the goal here.
Some remarks:
– After having emphasized several times the negative aspects of carbon (‘carbon pollution’), the Climate Action Plan reminds us of one positive side of the carbon element: forests need carbon to grow. But in perfect agreement with his bad ideas about carbon, the author formulates this fact as follows: ‘America’s forests play a critical role in addressing carbon pollution, removing nearly 12 percent of total U.S. greenhouse gas emissions each year.‘ He does not understand that carbon is an indispensable factor in the cycle of life. 18 percent of the mass of humans consists of carbon. Carbon dioxide is a valuable gas with a large number of uses that include horticulture, production of chemicals, refrigeration systems, fire extinguishers, water treatment processes, and many other applications. The author of the plan seems tilting at windmills (Don Quixote).
– To build on this progress, the Obama Administration is putting in place tough new rules to cut carbon pollution – just like we have for other toxins like mercury and arsenic – so we protect the health of our children … Indeed, efforts have been made to reduce the mercury pollution from power plants but at the same time more mercury from CFLs is polluting the environment (after the ban of incandescent light bulbs). Especially China, where most CFLs are produced, is a victim of this pollution but also America, where most CFLs are not disposed of properly.
– Arsenic is a common substance in LEDs ((Aluminum) Gallium arsenide). California lists gallium arsenide as a carcinogen. The ban of incandescent light bulbs makes that more arsenic is polluting the environment.
– In Indonesia, the Millennium Challenge Corporation is funding a five-year “Green Prosperity” program that supports environmentally sustainable, low carbon economic development in select districts. That reminds us of the recent smog alarm in Singapore. It is known that big palm oil companies are involved. Rainforests are burnt for palm oil plantations. “The oil is increasingly used in the manufacture of cosmetics, soaps, pharmaceuticals and industrial products. It is also used to make biodiesel fuel.” (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/indonesia-fires_n_3479727.html)
– I found no clear condemnation of the existing not ‘advanced biofuels’.
All consequences have to be factored in on a global scale (not only in the US). No imaginary ennemies have to be attacked. No lies have to be told. (EPA is still declaring that power plants emit 0.012 mg Hg/kWh. Unfortunately, this number is much too high!) The harmful effects are not mentioned what makes the whole plan onesided and worthless.
In the category of “WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG” I offer up the following video titled:
. . . . . . . “Refueling your Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) Truck”
Note: This procedure is Heavy on Safety!
Note the protective gear to be worn on head and face, the hands and the body!
Note the need for possible venting required on the vehicle to be fueled!
Note the requirement to assure the mating surfaces/connectors are clean and undamaged!
The actual fueling procedure begins at about the 3:33 point in the video.
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Samurai shouts:
” The US already has $17 TRILLION in national debt, annual deficits of almost $1 trillion and we’re printing $85 BILLION of bogus bucks A MONTH!
Americans elected Obama not once, but TWICE!”
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Yep, I voted for him. Sent money to his election efforts. That debt did not come from idiotic AWG programs, it came form launching two unnecessary wars while cutting taxes.
I don’t appreciate his scientific illiteracy anymore than you do, but we sure have had worse presidents overall.
@Doug – the 10 years cost (2001-2011) of the “2 wars” was $1.29t (source: Treasury.gov). The “cost” of the tax cut according to the CBO was $1t over 10 years. 1+1.29=2.29. Obama’s debt over the first 4 years? $6t.
Want to try a course in basic math again?
The claim of “The 12 hottest years on record have all come in the last 15 years.” isn’t supported by the state all time high temperature records, it only exists in the highly adjusted national average.
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and to show that fact…concise and to the point…they lied
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/fourteen-months-of-preparation-for-obamas-speech/
Here is what Mike MacCracken, Director of the Climate Institute in Washington put forward to prove his CAGW points:
“Here goes:
1.The CO2 concentration is going up do to human activities (clear from emission compilations, isotopic changes, etc.)
2.Molecules with three atoms or more absorb and radiate IR radiation (laboratory experiments, etc.) and are a cause of the surface climate being warmer than were there no such molecules in the atmosphere (comparison of planetary climates, paleo changes, simulations with radiative-convective models, etc.)
3.The climate has been changing since the start of the Industrial Revolution (data compilations of a range of variables) and the spatial and temporal patterns of climate change are inconsistent with changes being due to solar and volcanic forcings alone, and generally consistent with changes expected when both natural and anthropogenic forcings are included based on their quantitative contributions (“fingerprint” type analyses that are indicative of anthropogenic forcings—for example, that the stratosphere has been cooling is not consistent with solar forcing being the cause of surface warming)
4.Adding more GHGs to the atmosphere will cause further warming (if one subdivides the atmosphere into layers, it is clear that the altitude at which saturation occurs, to the extent that it does occur).
5.There will be significant impacts on the environment due to changes in climate (just walk up a mountain, or tour the country). Lowering ocean pH and the rise in sea level are pretty obvious types of impacts. From 20 ka to 8 ka, sea level rose roughly 120 meters as temperature rose 6 C, so about 20 m/degree change in global average temperature (is the slope going to really change to zero right at this critical juncture?).
6.It will take a very sharp drop in CO2 emissions to stop the growth in its atmospheric concentration (a range of isotopic and tracer studies make this clear).
All the rest is details—they matter for some purposes, but not really on whether it is important to be moving aggressively to start limiting emissions.
Mike MacCracken”
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For a guy who just could not explain a simple weather event… LOL
TomRude says:
June 25, 2013 at 9:56 am
Here is what Mike MacCracken, Director of the Climate Institute in Washington put forward to prove his CAGW points:
Considering his post he has missed the major step. That is that the heat delayed by the carbon dioxide causes temperatures to rise and the rate of evaporation of water to increase. Water vapor is more effective at ‘trapping’ infrared and therefore the atmospheric temperature rises and this causes more evaporation … etc to calamity. One indication that this is happening is of course the tropical tropospheric hotspot. This hotspot does not exist and the atmospheric humidity has not been rising so therefore the CAGW hypothesis is falsified.
This is going to be an extremely expensive venture in policy built without a proper engineering study detailing costs vs savings and other consequences for undertaking this policy.
It’s pretty funny to spend this much on a bad policy when most models are predicting +2C max by 2100 and it looks like they’re severely overshooting measurements, and the fact that IPCC SREX has found no correlation between natural disasters and temperature increases to date. One could even assert that there’s an inverse relationship between natural disasters and temperatures with the hurricane drought the US is currently experiencing.
As for adaptation, take any 2 cities in the US where one is 2C warmer than the other, even to the point of hot places like Phoenix and even Las Vegas, and you’ll see that adaptation is fairly simple to engineer – especially with such a ridiculously a slow-moving problem – infrastructure will have to be rebuilt or renovated by the time there’s a problem to the new conditions – so there’s really no problem.
If you are a labor boss there is much to love in this proposal. It reads like a thousand year labor stimulus plan. This should keep all the new immigrants busy. This is about 6 Hiroshima units of vote buying per year.
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/349536596653113344
Wow, just look at where we are today……anything can happen in this country.
The claim of “The 12 hottest years on record have all come in the last 15 years.” isn’t supported by the state all time high temperature records, it only exists in the highly adjusted national average.
By the way, Anthony, what’s the progress on Watts-2012?
Is it getting the IRS-TeaParty “Special Treatment”: Delay, Delay, Delay?
REPLY: No, I’m the reason. We got some very good feedback last year, and it required a complete redo of the metadata analysis to deal with the issue, and this required going back to B91 forms and the like to pull out the information we needed. Very tedious work. All done now, and hope to submit for publication soon. – Anthony