This makes you wonder what the White House sees as threatening about this information?
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NYT’s Andrew Revkin points out the inanity of it:
Whatever your views on #AGW, disturbing to see @WhiteHouse delete factual tweet on hurricane history: http://t.co/NWakXMz9Om Open society?
— Andrew Revkin 🌎 ✍🏼 🪕 ☮️ (@Revkin) June 24, 2013
Let’s do some fact checking.
From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Cleveland
Cleveland is the only president to serve two non-consecutive terms (1885–1889 and 1893–1897).
| Grover Cleveland | |
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| 24th President of the United States | |
| In office
March 4, 1893 – March 4, 1897 In office March 4, 1885 – March 4, 1889 |
Obama’s term is January 20th 2009 to present. Source
Now let’s check the hurricanes for these periods:
From this NOAA source: http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/All_U.S._Hurricanes.html
I’ve made screencaps of the two presidential terms of Grover Cleveland and totaled the numbers of hurricanes as listed by NOAA:
I count 27, rather than Goddard’s 26 (Note: 27 if you include the 1888 TS that NOAA included in the list of hurricanes, I’m guessing some post facto revision of this “hurricane six“) but the point remains the same. During President Obama’s term, Jan 20th 2009 to present, there have been only three US landfalling hurricanes according to the same NOAA data:
I find it interesting that NOAA puts in the disclaimer about Sandy, their exact disclaimer:
* – Indicates that the hurricane center did not make a U.S. landfall (or substantially weakened before making landfall), but did produce the indicated hurricane-force winds over land. In this case, central pressure is given for the time that the hurricane winds along the coast were the strongest.
Even though it didn’t make landfall, although it did affect the USA, but is listed, we will count it, Irene is also debatable, for weak wind speeds, but we’ll go with what NOAA says here.
The point is that there’s been far worse periods of US landfalling hurricanes during presidential terms, and that’s a fact.
Obama is also presiding over the longest ever period of major hurricane drought (Cat3 or greater) without making US landfall. From Dr. Roger Pielke Jr:
The graph above provides an update to data on the remarkable ongoing US “intense hurricane drought.” When the Atlantic hurricane season starts next June 1, it will have been 2,777 days since the last time an intense (that is a Category 3, 4 or 5) hurricane made landfall along the US coast (Wilma in 2005). Such a prolonged period without an intense hurricane landfall has not been observed since 1900.
Why is the White House afraid of these facts?
UPDATE: We’ll see how long my tweet lasts:
We have an obligation to future generations to act on climate change: http://t.co/wMpgpJJ4rO
— White House Archived (@ObamaWhiteHouse) June 24, 2013
Pamela Gray says:
June 24, 2013 at 6:13 pm
I do not get twitter. The platform makes the conversations difficult to follow and the design is useless as a meaningful debate forum.
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It is a dumbing down process. Think about it>>>>>
Dawn approaches for Andrew Revkin and he can almost see the light.
Okay, the first thing. If all warming is caused by man ( some of it may be, some of it clearly isn’t because we are emerging out of an ice age) , any projects the government wants to pursue from solar to windmills to changing power plants to natural gas will not stop the trend. It’s spitting in the wind. If the world really wants to get serious about “sustainability” it will embrace and grow nuclear power. And before your 60-something parents tell you that nuclear power equals bombs and death and destruction, please know that nuclear technology can bring us power plants that CANNOT have run away chain reactions and blow up. There are safe methods that can bring the world unlimited power. It’s 40 year old thinking that keeps us from this. It’s being done now, but the world needs to get over its Greenpeace fueled paranoia.
OssQss says:
June 24, 2013 at 5:35 pm
“Gail, I think it would be more realistic if we considered debt liability per taxpayer.”
That’s a reasonable suggestion but none of us, taxpayers or not, will pay for this debt directly. Everyone will “pay” via inflation, lost opportunities, poor services, deteriorating infrastructure (roads, airports, and so on). In this sense, someone not a taxpayer but currently supported by a number of charities, federal payments (even free phones!), state and local agencies, will simply get less. The US government is not going to declare bankruptcy even though it will seem that way.
It has nothing to do with truth. They believe you can create your own “reality”. I’m not kidding. Facts only confuse people.
The White House might find this interesting.
wws says:
June 24, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Facts to a Leftist are like Kryptonite to Superman.
_____________________________________________________________________________And conservative is a synonym for chowderhead. Right = Wrong. A bas les bourbons, toujours la gauche.
I’m fed up with similar snide cracks and whines that it’s all a commie plot from people who sound like they quit the John Birch Society because of its extreme left wing attitudes. Respect for facts is no greater on one side of the political center than the other. You can find disciples of Professor Lyon E. Zossov wherever you look.
I’d also like to point out that the right has no monopoly on opposition to CAGW alarmism. Speaking as a person who has been on the short end of right wing ideology all her life, I have, for ample reason, little love for anything from that direction, yet I remain unconvinced of any part of the whole scam. I know several people whose oppinions on many issues are leftward of mine and are definately farther out in the wild quadrant of the “Pournelle axes” who are also more dissident than I on that subject. Please those of you who are minded to make such statements and can get your brains engaged before putting the mouth in gear, think on that.
Thank you for your kind attention,
Kat
I posted a comment to that @whitehouse tweet myself and it was deleted. I asked why Goddard’s post was deleted. I guess that the facts are of no interest to those in charge of that account.
I do have an idea which might be interesting to put into practice, start a petition on the whitehouse.gov website, asking for an answer as to why the Goddard post was deleted. If it gets 100k votes, it must be replied to.
Is there merit to this, or am I just flogging a dead horse here?
There was only one strorm in 1913.
Most hurricane scientists agree hurricanes are in decline as man-made global warming continues.
It’s all about sunspots or the lack there of in this present solar sunspot minimum.
I see Steve Goddard’s tweet posted at 2:53pm on 24th June. Did he repost it, or is that the original?
I don’t even know whether it’s possible for someone else to delete your tweet, even if it is a response to theirs. I’ve never seen it done nor found the option on Twitter. Much as I sympathise with Steve Goddard’s message, I wonder if we’re being paranoid on this one.
David L says we should redefine God wins Law…
Yes, it could be called “Mary Poppins'” law: (flying kites) for the children.
– No I don’t see any of the above tweets from the above screenshot. When I look at the original @Whitehouse tweet they don’t appear in the selection (of the probable thousands) Twitter chooses to gives me.
– Goddard says @Whitehouse confirmed they removed HIS from THEIR twitter feed, but maybe the WUWT just got buried amongst all the others twitter chooses not to show me on the @Whitehouse timeline.
– >but <b is Twitter censoring search results ? My Tweets @No2BS used to show up when I searched with hashtags, now it seems they are excluded from search results. Is that malicious or just lack of capacity ?
FALLACY : Think of the Children is an example of : Appeal to emotion or argumentum ad passiones is a logical fallacy which uses the manipulation of the recipient’s emotions, rather than valid logic, to win an argument.
– from Spock or The Ethics Scoreboard or SideWise Thinking
I think we should also understand that there are far more named Winter Storms than in 1900. The Weather Channel is in the vanguard of this new research into Climate Change. Coming soon- the naming of Dust Devils.
Irene, Isaac, and Sandy were such pitiful excuses for hurricanes I personally believe NOAA socially promoted them to hurricane status simply because we hadn’t seen any for so long.
And with all this global warming, “the children” just don’t know what hurricanes are anymore.
Hello-hello, Mrs Streisand! 🙂
Nobody would know about it, if it hadn’t been deleted in the first place…
Steven Goddards tweet has been de-Orwellised even after the White house admitted to deleting it.
Perhaps the NSA were feeling a little guilty.