From the Washington Times, idiocy only bureaucrats could muster:
“Since man first rubbed a pair of sticks together to make a fire, we’ve gathered around a campfire to cook food, enjoy good company and bask in the warmth of the glowing embers. Now the green spoilsports in Southern California want to take that all way, sending beach ring fire pits the way of the caveman.The South Coast Air Quality Management District will decide this summer whether to order the removal of 850 bonfire pits from Los Angeles and Orange county beaches on the pretense that fire is bad for the environment. To support its position, the agency concocted a study concluding that an evening beach fire creates as much particulate matter pollution as a diesel truck driving 564 miles
Man’s taming of fire enabled him to cook his food, bring light to the darkness, make stronger tools and survive the harshest of winters. It’s the one discovery upon which all civilizations are built. The assault on bonfires, fireplaces and stoves undermines one of the cornerstones of society. It’s what happens when government gets big enough to snuff out man’s greatest achievement.”
EDITORIAL: California to ban fire – Washington Times
OMG, as much as one diesel truck driving 564 miles.
Lessee, its about 700 miles from the California-Oregon border on Interstate 5 to the beach in Orange County.
Why not simply turn back one Orange County bound diesel truck a day at the California border agricultural inspection station to achieve that goal?
Oh, wait, that would be stupid.
More here: http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_23274978/wood-fire-pits-could-pose-health-problems-beach
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“Why not simply turn back one Orange County bound diesel truck a day at the California border agricultural inspection station to achieve that goal?
Oh, wait, that would be stupid.”
Stupid is as stupid does.
Why ban long-haul trucks altogether? Or better yet, tear up the freeways & go back to rail transport? Or mule trains? Too much methane? Then coastwise sailing vessels, as long as they’re not carrying dead trees from Oregon & Washington as in the bad old 19th century. The more people who starve & freeze to death, the better, right?
Wet blankets have long been a traditional firefighting tool.
As controlled beach side fires are bad, unchecked forest fires must be unprecedentedly bad.
California must fight these forest fires by air dropping these wet blankets onto them.
Parachutes are an unnecessary expense, save the air.
Not only will we have to go back to living in caves we won’t even be allowed to cook our food.
Perhaps we need to start culling bureaucrats, their numbers seem to be getting out of control.
To be fair, the article says that one fire has the same particulate emissions of one diesel truck traveling 564 miles. Presumably more than one of the 850-odd fire pits is used on any given evening.
That said, this does seem like a stupid restriction, but I also don’t live in an area with bad air quality (so YMMV). In fact, I just had my engagement party at a firepit on Ocean Beach here in San Francisco last weekend, which was a blast.
. . . . . . . “California wants to ban campfires … ”
Let’s just simplify this straightaway (cut to the chase as it were) … shall we?
. . . . . . . “California wants to ban fire”
There …
.
First they came for the communists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
You know how it goes 😉
It’ll be BBQ’s next.
Reblogged this on What Say you and commented:
(Face palm..) It seems next they will ban marathons, that CO2 from all those runners well it adds up about the same.
I reblogged this one Mr, Watts. This is so stupid my head hurt.
Damn! There goes my Moon Doggie lifetime membership!
In Australia you cannot have a barbeque in your own backyard because the smoke may bother your neighbours. That ‘s one of the many reasons why I left Australia 4 years ago. To me anyway this is a unliveable nanny society. Add to that the extreme stupidity of the climate thing in Australia and you ve got yourself a really dumbed down people such as Lewanski and co who are probably heroes down there haha.,. Ironically What were democracies (Australia up to maybe 1990) have now become goverment dictatorships and what were dictatorships (ie military) are now mostly bastions of individual right freedoms etc (ie South America and some USA states). Both Europe and Australia will see a downward trend in popularity and economies if they dont wise up soon.
Interesting. I am working hard on leaving right now!
The operative expression I read on a hometown visit in 1997 in the Charlotte Observer:
“Californians are like granola. What aren’t fruits and nuts are flakes….”
On the other hand, if we Californios want to ban fire, why not ban wildfires instead? Just sayin….
And this from the place where wildfires that consume vast tracts of land are a way of life.
It’s all about symbolism in the land of illusion. California : a place to laugh at, not to inhabit.
The anti-combustion brigade wants us all to sarvein the cold and dark.
Let CA start a new country is my suggestion, those that don’t want those rules can move.
As succintly stated recently, enviromentalism is all about, ‘planet before people.’
Great. More statistical deaths without any corpses, medical files or autopsies or actual clinical studies. Woohoo!
Statistics are now controlling our lives.
California is so far down the road to becoming a totalitarian state that there is no redeeming it short of armed revolution. It has ceased to have a republican form of goivernment, as guaranteed in the US Constitution, but of course der Fuehrer in the White House will think this is A-OK, since he wants to do the same to the US as a whole.
California’s electric rates are twice as much as in states with no “renewable” energy mandates. But of course the simple fact that all “renewable” energy sources (except hydroelectric) are actually dirtier than fossil fuels cannot be impressed upon the australopithecines who run California.
The dirty secrets of wind power:
1. Kills millions of birds including endangered California condors and whooping cranes, yet gets a free pass from ther EPA;
2. Despoils landscapes and destroys habitats;
3. Emits some nasty pollutants ( the chemicals used to operate the windmills);
4. Requires excessive o0peration of inefficient, high-emission fossil fuel genereation to “firm” – provide backup when the wind stops blowing – the power.
The dirty secrets of large-scale solar power:
1. Despoils landscapes and destroys habitats;
2. Emits some nasty pollutants (the chemicals used to manufacture the panels);
3. Requires excessive o0peration of inefficient, high-emission fossil fuel genereation to “firm” – provide backup when clouds obscure the sun, and at night – the power.
The dirty secrets of geothermal power:
1. Emits toxic heavy metals – mercury, lead, thallium, arsenic, hexavalent chromium, to name a few;
2. Poisons habitat for considerable distances around facilities.
The dirty secrets of electric cars:
1. Huge hazardous waste disposal problem for batteries;
2. Similar hazards in manufacturing the batteries;
3. Requires burning of more fossil fuels than are saved by driving them, in manufactguring them and recharging the batteries (“zero emissions” has to be one of the biggest lies ever told);
4. Can only be produced with heavy taxpayer subsidies, and they therefore transfer wealth from middle- and lower-income taxpayers to rich people – that’s wealth redistribution, all right, a la mode.
They can pry the barbecue tongs from my cold dead fingers.
Controlling US borders would help reduce wildfires much more than banning beach firepits:
Michelle Malkin and William Gheen join Neil Cavuto on Fox News to discuss the arrest of two immigrants suspected of arson in California during the historic fires.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE has a hold the prisoner Gorgonio Nava who was arrested for setting fires in Vista, CA. Nava has prior drug charges and is either an illegal alien or a case of revoked visa.
MALKIN Points out “San Diego is a Sanctuary City”
ICE Claims that another suspect, Catalino Pineda was in the country LEGALLY, however questions are being raised why Pineda’s legal status was not revoked when he was convicted for prior crimes.
Illegal Alien campfires have caused many forest fires and the Washington Times reports that the Drug and Alien smugglers are intentionally setting fires on the border in Arizona.
ALIPAC wants investigators to determine if there are any connections between smuggler fires, illegal aliens, failures of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the current disaster in California.
When the Border Patrol had to abandon the crossing point East of San Diego, illegal aliens cut the chains and a large group of illegals rushed into the US.
Were some of these fires originally distraction fires?
You can visit ALIPAC, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC and William Gheen on the web at
http://www.alipac.us
I’ve been trying to convince my congressmen to give California back to Mexico for a decade now.
The big problem is that Mexico doesn’t want it. They have enough problems right now.
Don’t say you didn’t see this coming.
March 15, 2013 – Bold added:
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/15/local/la-me-aqmd-beach-fires-20130316
See, it makes perfect sense. The State of California knows the puffs from smoking on a public sidewalk can travel three blocks away and five stories up to where it will cause asthma in an infant in its crib. All public smoking is dangerous and makes everyone else sick as well.
And tobacco, wood, it’s all the same, plant matter, therefore it’s all harmful, should be banned, it will cause cancer. Ban it all, save lives.
Unless it’s marijuana, as the magical fog emitted by burning marijuana is as healthy as rainbow-colored unicorn farts. It is impossible for the mystical vapors to make anyone sick, and triply impossible for it to ever cause cancer.
Therefore the natural solution is obvious, and Californians love what is natural as it is always good. The fire pits may remain, provided they only burn bundles of leftover marijuana plant stalks and stems.
Also, as it says further down when it talks about ‘denying public access’ to this low-cost recreation:
I’m certain all those rich Californians in the expensive houses, won’t mind paying for the marijuana bundles for the fire pits. Don’t they already pay for marijuana for medical reasons? This is for the public health, same thing.
goodness gracious me. i wonder what their position on breaking wind in public is ?. Will future citizens be required to walk around with strategically placed bungs ?
Zeke Hausfather says:
May 24, 2013 at 10:11 am
“That said, this does seem like a stupid restriction, but I also don’t live in an area with bad air quality (so YMMV). In fact, I just had my engagement party at a firepit on Ocean Beach here in San Francisco last weekend, which was a blast.”
Congratulations on the engagement Zeke. Imagine how the “blast” would have been diminished without the fire. Time to start educating voters a bit on the implications of this kind of stuff – banishing fire pits is part of an incremental sort of tyranny. One aspect of big government is that when you give too many people a job, they have to do something, especially when you name the department something like “Department of CO2 Containment”. If they shut down the pits, I’ll volunteer for my turn in driving a diesel truck 500 miles a month to compensate.