Mutiny of the bounties – Heartland responds to ridiculous Truthmarket campaign

This is even more ridiculous than Stephan Lewandowsky’s “moon landing conspiracy theory paper” and Skeptical Science’s sekrit “crusher crew” kids klub managed by John Cook. I suppose the people pushing these things just have no idea what clowns they look like trying these campaigns to discredit climate skepticism, otherwise we wouldn’t see these constant substitutions of “opinion consensus” for hard science. Opinion isn’t science, get over it.

From PRWeb yesterday, a loaded proposition, most likely engineered to fail. It is really difficult to taker this seriously when they use “deniers” in the headline, and doubly difficult to take seriously when they don’t define “credible” anywhere, leaving that definition open to the whims of the organizers.

To win the $5,000 bounty, a campaign challenger must provide verifiable evidence that significantly less than 95% of credible American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause.

My first thought was: Why would anyone want to respond to a campaign where they insult you right out of the gate? Then I realized this is nothing but propaganda, they designed it to fail.

So rather than take them up on it (which is destined to fail due to the way the don’t define “credible evidence”), it seems that the tables are turned, and a new reverse bounty has been offered. Here’s the PR headline from Truthmarket yesterday:

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Climate Change Deniers Challenged by a TruthMarket Campaign Offering a $5,000 Bounty for Proof that More than 5% of Credible American Scientists Dispute Global Climate Change

A funded campaign asserting that over 95% of American scientists believe that global climate change is real and is most likely caused by humans has been launched with a $5,000 bounty on TruthMarket, the site that enables grassroots, crowd-funding of challenges to political, commercial and science misrepresentations

Atherton, California (PRWEB) October 01, 2012

TruthMarket, a division of Truth Seal Corp., today announced that registered member, Ellen Davis, launched a campaign challenging climate change deniers to prove that more than 5% of credible American scientists dispute global warming or that it is likely caused by humans. The first person who can deliver verifiable evidence that significantly fewer than 95% of qualified American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause will win the $5,000 bounty.

The campaign was motivated by a recent Yale University poll showing that only 13% of Americans surveyed were aware that the vast majority of US scientists believe that climate change is real, and that humans are the most likely cause. “That is a big problem,” stated Davis. “It means that the average US citizen is confused or ignorant of what the scientific community thinks about climate change.” She adds, “This should be of concern to everyone. It is the scientific community that is most qualified to interpret the data. Either they have been ineffective in communicating and persuading the public or the deniers have bigger budgets to drown out the warnings.”

Quoting Anthony Leiserowitz of the Yale University Project on Climate Change Communication, Davis agrees with his observation that, “So far the evidence shows that the more people understand that there is this consensus, the more they tend to believe that climate change is happening, the more they understand that humans are a major contributor, and the more worried they are about it.”

To win the $5,000 bounty, a campaign challenger must provide verifiable evidence that significantly less than 95% of credible American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause.

About TruthMarket

TruthMarket is a division of Truth Seal, a California Corporation. TruthMarket is designed to be a popular online platform that enables everyone to campaign for truth in public dialogue. The primary objective is to increase truth and trust throughout the public information space – online and offline – by publicly exposing false claims and highlighting true claims. TruthMarket’s ultimate goal is to predispose all public dialogue toward truth telling.

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Marketplace for Truth Telling, TruthMarket and TruthSeal are trademarks of Truth Seal Corp.

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Here’s the woman supposedly behind it all, one Ellen Davis:

Given the similarity of the setting in the video, and the fact that it was uploaded by the same person who uploaded videos for other “Truthmarket” lectures, I suspect she might be an employee of the “Truthmarket/Truthseal” organization.

And, how many young women like her have $5000 to blow on a cause? One wonders where that money really comes from.

It seems darned fishy to me that she has no track record in climate activism that seems evident via searches, then all of the sudden puts up $5k, and she seems to be a friend of the founder of the program sponsor.

For example, in  Google+ she’s a friend to the founder of the “Truthmarket”, Rick Hayes-Roth:

http://gplus.slfeed.net/112303771962306500089

Here’s the Truthmarket founder Rick Hayes-Roth:

http://gplus.slfeed.net/109318101805445010104

I generally don’t trust activist organizations that tout themselves as champions of truth in the name of the organization; history has shown me that to be just psychological projection. Given the shoddy way this campaign is put together, with no strong definitions, I have no reason to trust the principals nor the effort.

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Here’s Heartland’s Jame Taylor offering $5000 for the reverse proposition, also on PRWeb:

Heartland Institute Responds to $5,000 Bounty for Climate Skeptics

TruthMarket on Monday announced a campaign challenging those skeptical about catastrophic, man-caused climate change to offer proof that more than 5 percent of “credible American scientists dispute global warming or that it is likely caused by humans.” According to the campaign: “The first person who can deliver verifiable evidence that significantly fewer than 95 percent of qualified American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause will win the $5,000 bounty.” The Heartland Institute, which was described by The Economist this year as “the world’s most prominent think tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change, has published essays about the “Myth of the 98%” and the so-called consensus on climate change – both by Heartland President Joseph Bast.

James M. Taylor, Senior Fellow, Environment Policy, The Heartland Institute

Quote startThis so-called global warming challenge reinforces the ignorance and/or willful misrepresentation of global warming extremists in the global warming debate.Quote end

(PRWEB) October 02, 2012

TruthMarket on Monday announced a campaign challenging those skeptical about catastrophic, man-caused climate change to offer proof that more than 5 percent of “credible American scientists dispute global warming or that it is likely caused by humans.” According to the campaign: “The first person who can deliver verifiable evidence that significantly fewer than 95 percent of qualified American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause will win the $5,000 bounty.”

The Heartland Institute, which was described by The Economist this year as “the world’s most prominent think tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change,” has published essays about the “Myth of the 98%” and the so-called consensus on climate change – both by Heartland President Joseph Bast.

The following statement from James M. Taylor, senior fellow for environment policy at The Heartland Institute, may be used for attribution. For more comments, refer to the contact information below. To book a Heartland guest on your program, please contact Tammy Nash at tnash(at)heartland(dot)org and 312/377-4000. After regular business hours, contact Jim Lakely at jlakely(at)heartland(dot)org and 312/731-9364.

“This so-called global warming challenge reinforces the ignorance and/or willful misrepresentation of global warming extremists in the global warming debate. Most skeptics of global warming alarmism believe the Earth has modestly warmed during past century in the aftermath of the Little Ice Age, and most skeptics of global warming alarmism believe there is some human contribution to the warming. Accordingly, the so-called global warming challenge is nothing more than a straw-man tactic designed to mislead the public about the real debate.

“The true issue of contention between alarmists and skeptics is whether the Earth is likely to warm in such a rapid and catastrophic manner as to justify the economy-killing solutions advocated by global warming alarmists. I will personally pay a $5,000 bounty to the first person who can deliver verifiable evidence that 95 percent of qualified American scientists believe human-caused global warming is occurring in such a rapid and catastrophic manner as to justify the economy-killing solutions advocated by global warming alarmists.”

James M. Taylor

Senior Fellow for Environmental Policy

The Heartland Institute

jtaylor(at)heartland(dot)org

312/377-4000

The Heartland Institute is a 28-year-old national nonprofit organization headquartered in Chicago, Illinois. Its mission is to discover, develop, and promote free-market solutions to social and economic problems. For more information, visit our Web site or call 312/377-4000.

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Here’s the piece by Bast Taylor references:

You Call This Consensus?

Joseph L. Bast –
July 7, 2011

Contrary to what you read repeatedly in daily newspapers or hear on television, most scientists do not believe there is a “scientific consensus” that man-made climate change (often labeled anthropogenic global warming, or AGW) is or will be a catastrophe. Unfortunately, the old/mainstream/dead media will be the last folks to acknowledge this, so people who dispute the “consensus” will continue to be slandered and abused for years to come.

It is important to distinguish between the statement, which is true, that there is no scientific consensus that AGW is or will be a catastrophe, and the also-true claims that the climate is changing (of course it is, it is always changing) and that most scientists believe there may be a human impact on climate (our emissions and alterations of the landscape are surely having an impact, though they are often local or regional (like heat islands) and small relative to natural variation).

The three different statements are not contradictory or mutually exclusive. Yet it is difficult to find a reporter for a major daily newspaper who understands this elementary distinction. Since reporters aren’t all stupid, we can only guess as to their motives for blurring this important distinction.

What evidence is there to support my claim? I believe it follows from a reasonable interpretation of the following evidence.

(1) The latest international survey of climate scientists by German scientists Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch found (quoting my own interpretation of their results) that “for two-thirds of the questions asked, scientific opinion is DEEPLY DIVIDED, and in half of those cases, most scientists DISAGREE with positions that are at the foundation of the alarmist case.” If you don’t believe that climate models are good enough to predict future climate conditions, for example, how can you “believe” man-made global warming will be a threat?

Unfortunately, the survey shows that disagreement and outright skepticism about the underlying science of AGW doesn’t prevent most scientists from expressing their belief that man-made global warming is a serious problem. This is the nature of a popular delusion, whereby bright people believe dumb things simply because other people believe it.

Bray and Storch are very coy in reporting and admitting the amount of disagreement their surveys find on the basic science of global warming. In an early essay in 1999, reporting on the results of their first survey, they remark on how a willingness to make predictions and recommendations about public policy that aren’t supported by actual science is a sign of “post normal science,” or the willingness to rely on “consensus” rather than actual scientific knowledge when the risks are perceived as being great. This is little different from what I have been calling the “global warming delusion.”

(2) I found pretty much the same thing in an analysis I did of Bray and von Storch’s 2003 survey. That survey found that only 9.4 percent “strongly agreed” and 25.3 percent “agreed” with the statement “climate change is mostly the result of anthropogenic causes.” Some 10.2 percent “strongly disagreed.” Fewer than half the scientists surveyed agreed that “natural scientists have established enough physical evidence to turn the issue of global climate change over to social scientists for matters of policy discussion.” Only 18.6 percent said they believed global warming skeptics receive “too much coverage.”

(3) A 2010 survey of meteorologists found that 63 percent believe global warming is caused mostly by natural causes, and only 31 percent believe humans are primarily responsible.

(4) Another 2010 survey of meteorologists, this one published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, found only one in four American Meteorological Society broadcast meteorologists agrees with United Nations’ claims that humans are primarily responsible for recent global warming.

(5) The often-mocked but never refuted Petition Project” has, since 2007, been signed by more than 31,072 American scientists, including 9,021 with Ph.D.s. The petition says, in part, “There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” There is no comparable survey attesting to a widespread embrace of the alarmist position.

(6) A 2006 survey of scientists in the U.S. by the National Registry of Environmental Professionals found 41 percent disagreed that the planet’s recent warmth “can be, in large part, attributed to human activity,” and 71 percent disagreed that recent hurricane activity is significantly attributable to human activity. This is, admittedly, less than “most,” but it preceded the disclosures of Climategate, IPCC-gate, and five years of global cooling.

(7) The results of a less scientific survey were announced on the Web site of Scientific American, itself a publication with a highly biased coverage of environmental issues. Only 26 percent of readers of Scientific American responded to the magazine’s online poll saying they believe human emissions are causing global warming.

(8) Even Phil Jones, a prominent alarmist and central figure in the Climategate scandal, doesn’t believe there is a scientific consensus or that recent temperature trends are unusual. In an interview published by BBC News, Phil Jones was asked, “When scientists say ‘the debate on climate change is over’, what exactly do they mean — and what don’t they mean?” Jones responded, “I don’t believe the vast majority of climate scientists think this. This is not my view.”

Jones also acknowledged that recent warming (beginning in 1975 after three decades of cooling global temperatures) is not unprecedented, and is similar to warming periods that occurred from 1860 – 1880 and from 1910 – 1940. Asked about the global temperature trend since 1995, Jones asserted there is no statistically significant warming since 1995. Asked about the global temperature trend since 2002, Jones acknowledged global cooling, but said it is not statistically significant.

(9) One searches in vain for contrary data in support of a “scientific consensus” or the catastrophic forecasts. It certainly can’t be found in Naomi Oreskes imaginative counting of journal articles that appeared, in the non-peer reviewed letters section of Nature in 2004. A no-less rigorous study by Benny Peiser that attempted to replicate her results searched the abstracts of 1,117 scientific journal articles on “global climate change” found only 13 (1 percent) explicitly endorse the “consensus view” while 34 reject or cast doubt on the view that human activity has been the main driver of warming over the past 50 years. According to Peiser: “My analysis also shows that there are almost three times as many abstracts that are sceptical of the notion of anthropogenic climate change than those that explicitly endorse it.”

(10) A few years later, in 2008, Environment & Energy published research by medical researcher Dr. Klaus-Martin Schulte, who used the same database and search terms as Oreskes to examine papers published from 2004 to February 2007. (Note that DeSmogBlog reported in 2007 that E&E rejected the study and apparently never corrected its error.) According to the publication’s abstract:

The state of the scientific consensus about climate change was studied by a review of the 539 papers on “global climate change” found on the Web of Science database from January 2004 to mid-February 2007, updating research by Oreskes, who had reported that between 1993 and 2003 none of 928 scientific papers on “global climate change” had rejected the consensus that more than half of the warming of the past 50 years was likely to have been anthropogenic. In the present review, 31 papers (6 percent of the sample) explicitly or implicitly reject the consensus. Though Oreskes said that 75 percent of the papers in her former sample endorsed the consensus, fewer than half now endorse it. Only 7 percent do so explicitly. Only one paper refers to “catastrophic” climate change, but without offering evidence. There appears to be little evidence in the learned journals to justify the climate-change alarm that now harms patients.

(See also this link from Daily Tech titled, Survey: Less Than Half of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory.”)

(11) What of the claim that “all” of the scientific bodies of the world endorse alarmism? Leaders of these groups are typically more political than scientific and they can be depended on to voice the current politically correct views on issues that attract government funding. They also do not poll their members before issuing statements. Even with all this in mind, it’s notable that the Polish Academy of Sciences does not endorse the “consensus” claims.

Britain’s Royal Society, France’s National Academy of Sciences, and India’s National Action Plan on Climate Change have all recently expressed skepticism or embraced important parts of the skeptics’ position.

The leaders of the world’s national science academies are expressing the same “cognitive dissonance” as the individual scientists that Bray and von Storch’s surveyed: they say they “believe” in AGW and fear its consequences, but they are skeptical of the scientific claims that must be true to support that belief. The Amsterdam-based InterAcademy Council (IAC), which is made up of the presidents of many of the world’s national science academies, conducted an audit of the IPCC in 2010. It found that the IPCC doesn’t properly peer review its reports, the selection of scientists who participate is politicized, the summary for policymakers is the product of negotiation among governments and is not written by scientists, and more. IAC recommends structural reforms to fix IPCC’s flaws before IPCC’s next report, due in 2014.

So the public declarations of national science academies may reflect the broader opinions and fears of politicians and scientists, but it is not an endorsement of the underlying science, and cannot be construed as evidence that the science is sound. The leaders of those very organizations have stated publicly that they do not believe the science is sound.

(12) What of the claim that the “3,000 scientists” who participated in production of the IPCC’s 2007 report believe in AGW? The IAC report described in (11) demolishes the credibility of that body, validating what climate realists have been saying for years. The IPCC is a political body, not a scientific body, and its reports are political documents. But just as important, the number refers to the number of scientists and environmental activists who participated in any way in the IPCC, often as reviewers of a single section of a single chapter. They cannot be assumed to endorse the reports’ conclusions because they were never asked. In public comments, many reviewers say they do not, in fact, endorse the IPCC’s conclusions. Very few scientists helped write or review Chapter 9, which addressed the critical issue of attribution – what causes climate change. John McLean found that only 60 scientists help write or commented favorably on that chapter during peer review.

So when someone says the IPCC reports are proof of a scientific consensus on AGW, you should say “the IPCC is proof that 60 scientists believe in AGW, no more and no less than that.”

(13) What of the claim that “97% of climate scientists believe in AGW”? The origin of this spurious claim is a 2009 online survey of scientists by two University of Illinois professors who claimed to have found that 75 out of 77 climate scientists (yes, only 77 climate scientists!) answered yes to this question: “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?” The sample size is bizarrely small – more about that in a moment — and the question itself is meaningless. Most “skeptics” believe “human activity” – which includes everything from clearing forests to make way for crops to the urban heat islands created by cities – is having some impact on global temperatures. This survey tells us nothing about the real issue about which AGW advocates claim a consensus, that human emissions of greenhouse gases are causing catastrophic climate change.

Regarding the sample size … according to Lawrence Solomon, the two researchers who produced the survey deliberately left out solar scientists, space scientists, cosmologists, physicists, meteorologists, and astronomers … all scientists likely to be aware of natural causes of climate change. Only scientists employed by governments or universities were chosen to be surveyed, introducing another source of bias. Of the 10,000 or so scientists left, about 3,000 replied to the 2-minute online survey. No surprise, 82% of that unrepresentative sample answered yes to the ambiguous question. The authors then looked at a subset of just 77 scientists who participated in the survey and were successful in getting more than half their papers accepted by peer-reviewed climate science journals and found that 75 of those answered “yes.” 75/77 = 97%.

This may be how sausage is made, but it is not how accurate surveys are conducted. The “97% of climate scientists” claim is garbage. Anyone who cites it ought to be ashamed.


Joseph Bast is president and CEO of The Heartland Institute.

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D Böehm
October 2, 2012 2:03 pm

The truth is not in them. Don’t bite.
For an analysis of the bogus “98%” number, see here:
http://www.burtonsys.com/climate/97pct

Sean
October 2, 2012 2:05 pm

“provide verifiable evidence that significantly less than 95% of credible American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause.”
This is a double barreled question and if this is how the question is asked in the survey it will make all responses unreliable. Anyone with any professional experience in the design of surveys should know this. I have serious doubts that her contest will produce any credible results.
All that aside, what does consensus have to do with science or proof. These activists still don’t get it. They are the true deniers, deniers of the scientific method and deniers of physical evidence.

Tom Jones
October 2, 2012 2:10 pm

I believe it was Goebbels who said that “If you repeat a lie 1,000 times it becomes the truth”. It would make a great slogan for Truthmarket.

October 2, 2012 2:11 pm

Ellen Davis has the appearance of being a Blonde Bimbo.
The Survey has the appearance of being Propaganda Nonsense.

D Böehm
October 2, 2012 2:12 pm

To be fair, the OISM Petition did not take the position that human activity has zero effect. The 31,487 scientists and engineers co-signed a statement specifically affirming that more CO2 is harmless, and beneficial:

The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.
There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the forseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth. [source]

October 2, 2012 2:18 pm

Not to be a crank about this, but this post was excessively repetitive, and exceedingly long. An editor’s touch would be appreciated now and then.

Jimbo
October 2, 2012 2:31 pm

Whenever they tell you about the concensus ask them how many atmospheric scientists made up that concensus? Or is that consensus? Back to spelling classes for me:-(

JJ
October 2, 2012 2:35 pm

Anthony,
I think we can win this, citing the Doran “97%” paper as evidence.
Doran didn’t get to 97% except by restricting the results to criteria much tighter than “credible American Scientists”.
The two questions here replicate Doran’s two celebrated questions. Only 90% of the original “qualified scientists” agreed with Doran’s first question, and only 80% agreed with the second. The only thing that remains is restrict Doran’s data to American scientists. He recorded IP addresses for each response to prevent duplicate responses, so that is doable.
Get Doran’s data, and collect $5K.

Michael Larkin
October 2, 2012 2:43 pm

“The James Randi Educational Foundation does challenges right.”
IMO, Randi is a rogue. He can’t do anything right. He makes Gore and Hansen look like angels.

Kasuha
October 2, 2012 2:57 pm

I like the Heartland’s response, I like it very much. Of course, Truthmarket will never hand out the prize, they don’t intend to do so. No proof will ever be enough for them, they can always bend rules to their favor.

Reg Nelson
October 2, 2012 3:05 pm

Call their bluff and if they don’t pay up, take her to small claims court (you’re not allowed to use an attorney in small claims court). I would think that the vagueness of the wording of the contest would work against her, based on contract law. And if people in multiple jurisdictions claimed the prize, Ms. Davis could quickly find herself a very busy lady.

Coach Springer
October 2, 2012 3:11 pm

Sure, Heartland has a point in the orignal bounty posing the wrong question. But everybody making offers including Heartland lost me at what scientists believe. It’s what science says and what it does not say. Keep the belief out of questions concerning science. If the science is uncertain, that is primary. Their belief is worth much less than their science and some of their science is worthless to start with because some of them do a bad job of keeping the two separate.
This is not a group of experts with provable knowledge that a very bad thing will happen if we don’t do a thing and that it will be avoided if we do another thing. There was an article posted somewhere recently about some (Danish?) research studying melting patterns in Greenland. Their study reportedly concluded that the cyclical patterns of freezing and thawing suggested that it could be centuries before the ice caps were largely melted. They are part of the consensus of some warming and some human element. Centuries, plural, if at all, GREENland and much much more study needed are things for the consensus bearers to keep in mind. The word does not mean what they think it means.
Was the original challenge mimicking Steve Milloy’s challenge of a few years ago offering $100,000 to anyone who could put CAGW into a testable hypothesis? The money was available, but went unclaimed

rgbatduke
October 2, 2012 3:19 pm


You can send me the check at my registered address on your site.

Well, technically it should get sent to the people who conducted the actual surveys, including:
“In 2007, Harris Interactive surveyed 489 randomly selected members of either the American Meteorological Society or the American Geophysical Union for the Statistical Assessment Service (STATS) at George Mason University. The survey found 97% agreed that global temperatures have increased during the past 100 years; 84% say they personally believe human-induced warming is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific evidence” substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that human activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; and 84% believe global climate change poses a moderate to very great danger.[107] [108]” (Wikipedia quote).
Note that 5% of climate scientists (or at least, people working more or less directly in climate science) do not believe that human activity has contributed to greenhouse warming. They also chose to state the 84% figure, but stated the other way, 16% of them do not believe global climate change poses any threat at all!. If you include the statistic that they did not include, it is also true that over half of them think that global climate change is not a very great danger, that at most it is a moderate danger — damaging in some ways, perhaps, but not “catastrophic”. And this is without any real acknowledgement that there might actually be benefits to a warmer world, or a world that doesn’t re-enter an era of glaciation, or a world that provides the poorest people on the planet with the energy they need to live the life that we in the developed world take for granted.
Is this study “reproducible”? Only if you thing that a University stats department with no dog in the race is likely to be competent. Do they deserve the $5000? Of course not — not unless somebody is willing to sue them to get it, because (as noted above) they carefully framed the problem so it was impossible for them to fail, mirroring the two stupid questions that have been used to state utterly fallacious conclusions in the two question survey that originally gave rise to the “95%” assertion.
A lawsuit might be interesting, though. At the very least, it would force them to confront the fact that numerous surveys show that not even climate scientists are 95% in agreement with CAGW, or convinced of AGW itself. I would agree that there is a consensus that climate change is occurring (well, duh!). I think that there is a majority belief (if that matters) that at least part of that is due to anthropogenic influences. There is wide disagreement as to how large the latter is compared to the scale of natural variation, and whether or not it is likely to lead to a “catastrophe”.
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Jay
October 2, 2012 3:21 pm

Count me! I am a scientist, and I meet the above criteria…
“5. Do you have university level training in the physical sciences that enable you to technically understand the principles of atmospheric physics or climatology?
6. Do you have university level training or industry-relevant expertise in computer modelling sufficient to technically understand the results of IPCC climate modelling?”
I do believe in climate change, and that humans have some effect.
But there is no catastrophe coming due to CO2 emissions. The climate sensitivity the IPCC uses with all its unproven positive feed-backs is way over stated, it is probably 0.8-1.5 per doubling, not 3-6. Most climate activism is political to enact global carbon taxes to benefit the bankers and UN to implement their agenda 21.
If we are warming, that is on balance a good thing, and we may be cooling or soon cooling, I hope the next ice age is not soon.

Armand
October 2, 2012 3:24 pm

Looks like Jo anne nova site is out again. I think she has got some very serious problems with her site that need professional security handling.

Rosco
October 2, 2012 3:27 pm

Heartland needs to offer a reward to anyone who can produce any paper or even a non peer reviewed article or dissertation which proves the greenhouse theory and AGW.
To my knowledge there isn’t anything like this after a hundred or more years of navel gazing.

October 2, 2012 3:30 pm

This strikes me as a thinly veiled attempt to generate media coverage for Hayes-Roth’s dismal looking website and book. According to her LinkedIn profile, Davis was a sociology major and works at a Bay Area firm that provides “strategic financial and media relations counsel to growth companies.” She doesn’t understand the science herself, but happily labels those who take issue with the consensus viewpoint as deniers while describing “the average US citizen” as “confused or ignorant of what the scientific community thinks about climate change.”
There is also an Ellen Davis who appears to be an active member of the San Francisco chapter of the Sierra Club. I don’t know if they are one in the same person, but I think it would be a fair question to ask of Ms. Davis. With a 2012 budget in the 100 million USD range, I’m sure 5K could probably be dug out from between the sofa cushions at the local chapter office.
This TruthMarket stunt has odious troll written all over it. Refuse to engage, deprive it of oxygen, and let it wither up and die.

October 2, 2012 3:40 pm

And when did you stop beating your wife?

SamG
October 2, 2012 3:43 pm

Typo: It is really difficult to “taker” this seriously

October 2, 2012 3:44 pm

rgbatduke, “Even though scientists are naturally skeptical, few are that skeptical.,” unless they’ve read the few published studies of the systematic measurement error produced by in-field temperature sensors; land T and SST.

pat
October 2, 2012 3:46 pm

says it all really:
TruthMarket: About Us
http://www.truthmarket.com/about-us

Ben D
October 2, 2012 3:46 pm

They are known liars and therefore will just lie about their lies when they are shown to be liars,..and then lie about the lies about their lies, and so on ad infinitum.
Fool me once, shame on you,…you know the rest…

October 2, 2012 3:48 pm

JamesS, just to make sure – the “Oregon Petition” had about 50% more than your threshold, last I heard. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/05/19/the-32000-who-say-no-convincing-evidence/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_petition.
Signers ad to have scientific education, including applied science (engineers). While alarmists sneered at that broad defintion reality is that what’s lackin gin climate science is thinking skills and perspective, and many of those people – like Stephen McIntyre with statistics – have technical skills very much needed to analyze climate.

Robert of Ottawa
October 2, 2012 3:50 pm

The biggest human effects on the environment are caused by agriculture and cities, Let’s start a campaign against them!

October 2, 2012 3:56 pm

Consensus might be the ruler of the day as far as these “TruthMarket” folks are concerned. According to one of their pages, they awarded “awarded a $1,000 bounty for falsifying the claim that ‘Fox News is the most trusted news channel in the US’ “, going on to say that “… the most recent poll, in January of 2011, actually supported an entirely different conclusion …” which led them to conclude, “PBS is the most trusted national US news television broadcaster.” http://pressrelated.com/press-release-true-to-our-word-truthseal-pays-big-bounty-on-first-challenge.html
This being the same PBS which is responsible for the NewsHour, a program that came under heavy fire by the Al Gore / Joe Romm crowd just a couple of weeks ago for having the audacity to allow Anthony Watts to appear there. It would appear that all trust in PBS has been lost, except this is also the same NewsHour that has largely ignored skeptic opinion over the last 16+ years ( http://junkscience.com/2012/07/13/pbs-newshour-global-warming-coverage-ipccnoaa-scientists-18-skeptic-scientists-0/ )