It seems to me, that if you are asking for immunity up-front, you already know that
something has been done that without immunity, would land somebody in the slammer. From Fox News:
Mammoth new green climate fund wants United Nations-style diplomatic immunity, even though it’s not part of the UN
“EXCLUSIVE: The Green Climate Fund, which is supposed to help mobilize as much as $100 billion a year to lower global greenhouse gases, is seeking a broad blanket of U.N.-style immunity that would shield its operations from any kind of legal process, including civil and criminal prosecution, in the countries where it operates. There’s just one problem: it is not part of the United Nations.”
Whether the fund, which was formally created at a U.N. climate conference in Durban, South Africa last December, will get all the money it wants to spend is open to question in an era of economic slowdown and fiscal austerity. Its spending goal comes atop some $30 billion in “fast start-up” money that has been pledged by U.N. member states to such climate change activities.
A 24-nation interim board of trustees for the Green Climate Fund (GCF) is slated to hold its first meeting next month in Switzerland to organize the fund’s secretariat and to get it running by November, as well as find a permanent home for the GCF’s operations. The board expects to spend about $6.7 million between now and June of next year.
But before it is fully operational, the GCF’s creators—194 countries that belong to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), and who are also U.N. members—want it to be immune from legal challenges and lawsuits, not to mention outside inspections, much like the United Nations itself cannot be affected by decisions rendered by a sovereign nation’s government or judicial system.
Despite its name, the UNFCCC was informed in 2006 by the United Nations Office of Legal Affairs that it was not considered a U.N. “organ,” and therefore could not claim immunity for its subordinate bodies or personnel under the General Convention that has authorized U.N. immunity since the end of World War II.
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And some people wonder why there is a burning need for the UN to work to outlaw private ownership of weapons… RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
/sarc
No worries – Peter Gleick will probably be in charge of the ethics committee of this new UN body?
For Peter Miller:
To qualify you also have to like to ride in limosines at conferences and engage the services of hookers in the meeting cities.
In seriousness, I do not believe in conspiracies but the AGW game is beginning to smell like rotting fish. I suspect that the words, “as much as $100 billion a year” are simply to obtain immunity for current Non-Denier activities such those engaged in by Hansen, Mann, Gleick et al. The GCF funding could only be $1 million per year; that’s much less than $100 billion per year.
Money laundering just found a new laundromat
Bribes and corrupt poilticians are only the faclitator.
Accountability and transparency. How ’bout we try those first.
The extent of the corruption and absolute waste of public funds current and proposed is staggering.
I would highly recommend Patrick Michaels’ book “Climate Coup” which outlines the legislative efforts to turn the US into Spain or Greece. Spending trillions of “green tax” dollars on “green” scams will not lower CO2 emissions. There is no global warming crisis. The crisis is how to stop Western governments from committing AGW economic hari-kari.
http://www.amazon.com/Climate-Coup-Warmings-Invasion-Government/dp/1935308440
Richard Lindzen,
“It has long been observed that global warming offers opportunities for a huge number of interests to exploit and that the eagerness to exploit the issue has led to a remarkable corruption of institutions – public, private, and academic. In a set of cogent and well-written contributions, Climate Coup documents what is happening intelligently and in depth. There is no need for indignation in the contributions: the situation speaks for itself. One can only hope that the ordinary citizens of both the developed and developing worlds, who are the primary victims of all the Canute-like efforts to control climate, will take notice.”
This is a succinct explanation of why the extreme AGW science is based on a lie.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenmeyer/2012/02/09/understanding-the-global-warming-debate/
http://www.climate-skeptic.com/
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/warrenmeyer/files/2012/02/gw1.gif
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/warrenmeyer/files/2012/02/15yr-temps.gif
“The problem for global warming supporters is they actually need for past warming from CO2 to be higher than 0.7C. If the IPCC is correct that based on their high-feedback models we should expect to see 3C of warming per doubling of CO2, looking backwards this means we should already have seen about 1.5C of CO2-driven warming based on past CO2 increases. But no matter how uncertain our measurements, it’s clear we have seen nothing like this kind of temperature rise. Past warming has in fact been more consistent with low or even negative feedback assumptions.”
What’s the problem? Diplomatic immunity from all prosecution and control of billion of dollars by unelected officials with no accountability. After all, the UN and its affiliated organization have such a great track record. You “haters” are to stupid to realize it’s all for our own good. /SARC off
Jer0me says: @ur momisugly March 24, 2012 at 6:30 am
Meanwhile, in the USA: Curiousgeorge says….
I am so glad I live in a country that restricts guns. I know hater are gonna hate, but them’s the facts.
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Jer0me get your head out of the sand and start connecting the dots.
People like George believe in HAVING GUNS so we do not need to USE the guns.
It is so politicians KNOW there is a limit to their power and a limit to how much they can steal from people. That was the whole purpose of the Second Amendment and the reason it is now under attack. It is darn hard to be a dictator and implement a totalitarian government over an armed population whose armed forces owes allegiance to a piece of paper and not the Head of State.
Pay attention: Study Finds That Having Power Can Make You Stupid
GUNS in the hands of the general population limits the feeling of power and hopefully limits the number of bad decisions.
If you need more convincing look at DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: 20th Century Democide figure 1.3 shows deaths in millions by country ~ figure 1.3 graph
Besides the USA is not the WILD WEST of movies.
The USA does have gun laws. A convicted felon can not purchase a gun and possession is a crime carrying severe penalties.
Criminals scurrying over to the UN for “protection”? Considering the UN’s “stellar” history, this isn’t surprising at all. (And we wonder why reports from the IPCC are worth less than the paper they’re printed on?)
Believe it or not, I’ve seen worse get through, and had to complain about it in boldface Hey, MODS, listen up!
More on the UN;
http://drtimball.com/2012/sensationalist-and-distorted-climate-stories-increase-as-climate-science-failures-exposed/
Anthony,
You may want to refer to Jo Nova’s latest post about the results of a state election down under.
Now for all of you nice people from the USA who may not think state elections are that big a deal if you do not live in that state, please remember that we only have 6 states and 2 territories, not 50 like you guys. We just had an election in Queensland, one of our most economically important states, especially for mineral wealth representing about a quarter of the population. Before the election the Labour (think Democrat) held a small majority in the 89 seat Lower House (House of Representatives).
With over 70% of the vote counted, the results are;
Liberal / National Party coalition (think Republicans – sort of) – 78 seats
Labour (think Democrat) – 7 seats
KAP (new party – think TEA party with less logic and more strangeness) – 2 seats
Independents – 2 seats.
A mini-van will have more seats than the previously incumbent Labour party in the new parliament.
I have one word for this … OUCH!
Louise says:
March 24, 2012 at 7:46 am
“Chris says: [ … ]”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/24/where-theres-a-need-for-immunity-theres-a-crime-green-climate-fund-looking-to-un-for-diplomatic-immunity-protection-from-lawsuits/#comment-933477
Wow – how did that get through moderation?”
Looks like a moby.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moby
[Comment deleted. ~dbs, mod.]
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/queensland-election-2012-campbell-newman-anna-bligh-poll-march-24/story-fnbt5t29-1226308814170
I like this:
8.38PM: A merciless Bob Katter had some harsh words for Anna Bligh tonight, following her defeat at the polls.
“Did you really think people would vote for you?” he said.
“Congratulations Anna – you saved the trees but the people well and truly cut you down.”
And it’s too bad that American politicians & public can’t be more like the following instead of being distracted by personal hot button issues that have little effect on the nation as a whole:
When asked about gay marriage, Mr Katter said: “We’re talking about serious issues.”
This is a movement that is not only unwilling to police itself (See Gleick affair and response) they actually laud their will-identified criminal elements and celebrate the violations. Now they seek immunity from external control. This unrepentant movement needs defunding and a stay order against the leadership and financial supporters to never again participate in climate matters. Start at the universities.
The scam that is climate change “science” is growing out of control and clearly has little to do with the climate.
Brian H says:
March 24, 2012 at 8:04 am
Gail Combs says:
March 24, 2012 at 6:25 am
The United Nations is only following the precedence set by the long ago hero Robbing Hood.
(Do I really need the sarc off tag?)
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At the time, the gentry and nobility had the legal and enforced right to take as much of a peasant’s money and goods as desired. And used it “liberally”. It was long before the time that “the rich” lifted a finger to earn their wealth.
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Brian, I have been calling this “agenda” Neofeudalism” for years. This just brings it out in the open for all to see. 1/6 of the US budget is PENSIONS! Laws such as the new Health Care law do not apply to Congress. Do we need any more evidence that a new “Aristocracy” is being set up? All you have to do as look at how laws that apply to you and me do not apply to Congress and even if we managed to drag them into court they mostly skate.
I’m about to babble on about the rule of law. Keep hydration handy please, pref blue gatorade.
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Patrick Davis says:
March 24, 2012 at 7:18 am
“Jer0me says:
March 24, 2012 at 6:27 am”
It should read;
WA ditched labor.
VIC ditched labor.
NSW ditched labor.
As of today, QLD, ditched labor in spectacular fashion.
We’ve had the farce of the more popular Rudd (KRudd747) challenging Gillard for the leadership of the ALP, and fail dramatically. Rudd then being replaced by the former NSW state Premier Bob Carr, famous for 10 years of handwaving and public announcements that went nowhere. Federal ALP and Greens are gone in 2013!
There is an air of desperation to get all the pieces in place before the end of 2012.
Let’s hope that 2013 is not too late.
The worst part of this is it will set a precedent for giving ALL NGOs approved by the UN diplomatic privileges. Can you imagine PETA or Greenpeace with that kind of immunity?
This is OT, but not sure where else to post it.
Dr. Tim Ball is scheduled to be the guest on the radio program “Coast to Coast AM” tonight, starting at 10:00 PM Pacific Time (1:00 AM Eastern time tomorrow morning).
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
Sat 03-24
Joining John B. Wells, retired professor of climatology Dr. Tim Ball will discuss how issues like climate change, North American water resources, and biodiesel are being politicized and exploited, as well as undermining scientific objectivity.
Website(s):
•drtimball.com
…I suppose giving tons of money to Obama’s campaign would be considered mobilizing as much as $100 billion a year to lower global greenhouse gases
@ur momisugly Gail Combs says (March 24, 2012 at 6:25 am)
Why would you say all that (quite rightly) and then end by implying it was all sarcasm?
Ecofascists seeking free reins …
They obviously learned from the Neurenburg trials.
old news
H/T
Larry Ledwick (hotrod ) says:
March 22, 2012 at 11:56 am
http://wattsupwiththat.com/tips-and-notes/