This film, being shown all throughout Australia, and now available here at WUWT shows what the Gillard government is doing to prepare for the worst unstoppable effects of climate change. It’s quite something. RealClimate has declined comment.
Happy Friday Funny everyone! That’s the best laugh I’ve had since Elmer’s M4GW original “hide the decline” video.
h/t to Rosalind Smallwood via Andrew Bolt
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Richard Sharpe says:
August 6, 2011 at 9:47 am
It seems that you think that Tim Flannery is ultimately responsible for the death and destruction caused by those floods, then.
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Perhaps you aught to re-read my post – it was about planning for natural 30 years weather patterns as opposed to the AGW pie in the sky thinking. The natural 30 years cycle proved which set of thinking was correct and it was NOT the AGW nonsense.
NASA WILL SAVE THE DAY…!!!
Thank the President that NASA can now build a space ship to save us….
Oh wait, there is no more NASA… never mind…
Wil says on August 6, 2011 at 10:28 am
No need to do that. I fully understood your point. I just feel that you failed to identify who was responsible for the Qld Government failing to follow correct procedures … and while some government employees could perhaps have mitigated the disaster if they had had the courage to act in time, Flannery is ultimately responsible, in my mind, for the death and destruction. That point should never be forgotten.
It should also never be forgotten that he was pushing the tripe that he was for his own personal financial gain.
crosspatch says:
August 5, 2011 at 9:46 pm
“What the hell is Climate Disruption?”
“You see, the climate of the Earth, if left to its own devices, is perfectly stable and never changes. There is never any variation whatsoever.”
Sorry, but that teaching is a desinformation for blinds, because the global climate of the earth do change with different frequencies and its different amplitudes. A main frequency has a period of 913.5 years and we are now in a warm climate phase, which climate is warmer than a halve period ago, what people call the ‘Little Ice Age’. These changing’s are evident from hundreds of samples from all over the world.
http://volker-doormann.org/images/solar_fig_3.gif
The peak to peak amplitude of the temperature of the climate changing’s is about some 4° Cel.
“So if the climate shows a period of warming or cooling on a decadal scale, then we must have caused it. “
Wait. Climate is defined on a scale of greater than 30 years. But there is no reason to look on a scale of millennium of million years. If you find out that the oscillating function for a time range of millenniums or greater is valid, and the function shows mostly same warm climate as 913.5 years ago or maybe a little bit colder, than the logic is that you have to explain the whole time range.
For the changing of the global temperature on a decadal scale, it is well known that the earth because of its shape wobbles with a frequency of 1/1.1855 years, and that the fluids (air and oceans) on the surface of the earth resonates with the half frequency of 1/2.371 years or 28.45 month. Because of the heat content of the water of the oceans this leads to phases called El Niño e Southern Oscillation (ENSO) occurring again with an average of a half frequency of 1/4742 years or 57 month. “The global sea surface temperature (SST) anomaly data from 1950 to 1996 were used to analyze spatial characters of interdecadal SST variations. A wavelet transform was made for the equatorial eastern Pacific SST anomaly time series. Results show that there are three remarkable timescale SST variations: 130-month interdecadal variation, 57-month interannual variation and 28-month quasi-2-a variation. (QlAN Weihong et al.)”
In a recent WUWT posting: “Climate variability in East Africa & El Niño Southern Oscillation” it is spoken about an evidence that the ENSO frequencies are present until 20000 years in East Africa.
“If the climate is warming, it is because we are burning coal and creating CO2 but if it is cooling, it is because we are burning coal and creating aerosols.”
Well those are logic arguments. But the problem is that already the known changing’s of the climate on a long timescales without burning coal, one can see climate warming and climate cooling.
http://volker-doormann.org/images/solar_fig_1.gif
“Any variation from a model developed in a Columbia University lab is caused by us. This model is certified perfect in every way. It is so perfect that we have no problem spending billions of dollars in ways to minimize this “disruption” of the climate away from the perfect model temperature.”
Well these are again well known logic fallacies: Argumentum ad verecundiam (Appeal to authority) and Argumentum ad crumenam.
“There is no natural climate variability.”
It is a problem to give evidence for that, what not is.
“All variability is caused by human beings because the Earth’s climate is exactly perfectly stable and never varies (ever). If you don’t believe me, just ask a prominent climate scientist how much natural variation is “normal” on a decadal scale.”
Well this is again the well known logic fallacies: Argumentum ad verecundiam (Appeal to authority).
“Before thermometers we didn’t have nearly as much worry about the variation of the climate.”
The contend of isotopes in matter can be calibrate in °Cel. for about 100 of millions of years.
This gives us also information on the global temperatures for the last 1 Million years:
http://volker-doormann.org/images/solar_fig_4.jpg
Moreover, it can be explained on simple geometry and solar physics.
If one is crying ‘I can now go again, I can now go again!” it must not necessary a miracle, it can be simple the fact that his bicycle was stolen.
v.
Mr Doorman, I believe that you’ve misinterpreted Crosspatches statement. He was being savagely sarcastic to the AGW crowd’s idea that change is the fault of mankind.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken
Warmistas are from Venus, sceptics are from Earth.
this is pretty funny and thanks for the compliment
Ok so Oz is heading for disaster whichever way the world goes – but don’t you just love Oz humour.
They lost again at cricket today – if Ozzies are no longer great at sport then the Government must fall.
As well as the biggest anti carbon tax rally in Australia’s history (tango says: August 6, 2011 at 4:08 am ) we may also see the biggest return to sender mail back ever conducted by Australia Post (Julia Gillard’s tax funded leaflet CleanEnergy Future according to Hans Christian Andersen):
http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/cleanprop_thumb.jpg
Yeh we always laugh at the Richard Cranium’s that run our government from Canberra (cursed land according to the Indigenous) .This government wants to tax fertilizer (co2) the last government wanted us to work for nothing (workchoices) . Government by wankers .
Rhoda Ramirez says:
August 6, 2011 at 1:07 pm
“Mr Doorman, I believe that you’ve misinterpreted Crosspatches statement. He was being savagely sarcastic to the AGW crowd’s idea that change is the fault of mankind.”
Hi Rhoda Ramirez,
I believe that sarcasm never will change people’s idea that AGW is fact, just the opposite.
I believe simple served evidence can do it. Evidence is also not to find in statements of any color, but in scientific arguments, each one can check and/or refute.
True words also may hurt, but this is connected always with a recognition process of the own self.
As one who has spent his whole life in the USA, where our present elected governance seems to be composed nearly entirely of dropouts from the Baraboo Clown College who can’t muster even a vain attempt to bring the spoiled brats who populate the vast bureaucracies which constitute our real government just slightly under their control, I hesitate to offer criticism of any foreign regime for poor performance. That being said, and from strictly an outsider’s point of view, what the present Australian government is attempting seems completely analogous to a poor deluded individual who takes himself to the public square, douses himself with gasoline, or perhaps ethanol, and self-immolates to protest the the lack of respect given to The Flat Earth Society.
Even if their plan would prove to be the singular historical exception from throughout recorded time of government plans actually achieving their purported goals and Australia should meet their proposed reductions in carbon emissions, the climate and the world wouldn’t and couldn’t notice because the effect would be undetectable.
Australia and its Commonwealth partner No Longer Great Britain are committing to ride the carbon demonization bus to the end of the line while all the other passengers have disembarked or are disembarking from it. Admittedly the CAGW crowd has been quite successful at indoctrinating the world populous to believe in the AGW part of their mythology. Where they have failed is in creating belief that the C part actually justifies their draconian plans, that have always been their real goal, in enough people to generate the political will to bring them to fruition. That failure is the real source of all their hyperventilating about the need for new communication techniques to revive this dying “crisis”. The world is, quite rightly coming to realize that, even if there are dark clouds gathering far over the horizon, there is no reason to take ourselves immediately to the basement and weld ourselves in to avoid the possible consequences of a storm which may well never arrive.
Some have been tempted to call the climate crisis a conspiracy,for which conclusion I admit there is ample evidence. But, to my mind, conspiracy requires at least an attempt at secrecy and covertness, which has been entirely lacking in this effort. Perhaps because they believed that their dominance of all the levers of information in the world (academia, journalism, entertainment, etc) would keep their real goals limited to the cognoscenti, the people who have sought to take political advantage of this phony crisis have been incredibly open about what those goals really are. This is somewhat puzzling since, from at least as far back as Gramsci, their leading theorists have recognized that they could never succeed in persuading the world to accept their distopian vision by openly advocating their true plans. For the best part of a century deceit and a frog in the pot incremental destruction of bourgeois western values has been their preferred strategy. Possibly the very real prospect that carbon demonization might be the ultimate weapon they needed to finally achieve what they have been pursuing for all this time caused them to break the discipline they have maintained for so long. Unfortunately for them their brand of egalitarian statism, in which everyone is reduced to the same soul crushing level of mediocrity except of course for the ruling elite, is still anathema to most of humanity and their golden moment happened to coincide with the Internet’s incredible democratization of information.
Of course most of the world doesn’t indulge in the kind of dedicated dumpster diving through the Net that is required to come across most of these political machinations, or most of climate science for that matter, but we may be approaching a test point of the hypothesis, mentioned in a recent post, that when 10% of a population firmly believe something they can swing majority opinion on a dime. I doubt that true believers in the climate conspiracy are 10%, but I also doubt if anyone knows that for sure, and we might be closer than even I imagine
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@Brian: You really are a scared, weird, paranoid little zombie. I’m sorry your religion is about to be taken away from you. You’ll have to invent another one.
Video is very funny! Thanks. Excellent sound track as well.
You Australians have a great sense of humor. Some many years ago I was in Australia for a couple of weeks on military duty and made the mistake of telling a joke. I ended up in a one-for-one joke telling contest with some aussies and lost. Badly. But I laughed so hard I almost died.
Really too bad about the caliber of your leaders – here in the US we are also suffering some very poor leadership.
Mike Smith says:
August 5, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Ozzies.They’re a weird mob.
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Only 30% Mike the rest of us think its a load horse s**t.
John of Cloverdale WA Australia says:
August 6, 2011 at 1:22 am
Get a life Brian. And enjoy your government’s recent mail out brochure on a clean energy future. It might give you a better laugh.
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And wasn’t even worth stringing up in the outside loo.!!
OMG!! This is the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while!
FrankK says: August 6, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Only 30% Mike the rest of us think its a load horse s**t.
Somehow I ready reckon it would be less than 30% Frank. We’ve had many years to hone our humour. And communication style.
(Marble Bar:- known for having very high temperatures
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Bar,_Western_Australia)
The Medicare levy was, temporarily (Yeah right), increased by 1% (I think, don’t quote me on the figure, but it did go UP) to help raise additional funds to help with recovery in QLD. The good Mr Tim “perpetual drought in qld” Flannery is the Govn’t climate adviser. This is a temporary position which attracts an annual salary of AU$180k. Nice little earner if you can get on that gravy train.
Oddly enough our constitution forbids this woman from holding public office as she is under charges of treason in the high court of the state of Victoria Australia. These are yet to be heard charges but any one charged is forbidden. Strange how the left seems to be able to transcend the laws of the land,lie and cheat and still get elected. I am in a convoy in a march on the capitol old though I be I’ve had a gut full. This Tim Flannery person whom I label Tom Foolery needs [snip – too extreme, jove ~mod] three days in the stocks opposite a fruit and vegetable market. That may teach him to be a little more truthful in the future.
For anyone wondering……Gillard offers this explanation of “Assification”
http://youtu.be/ObEYDWFMhFo
Is anyone working on how to save the human race when the sun becomes a red giant?
I watched “When Worlds Collide” on DVD in the last week or son. I also read the books “When Worlds Collide” and “After Worlds Collide” as a kid many years ago (I’m 54). I enjoyed them immensely but maybe I was too young to pick-up on the racial/ social commentaries that dtbronzich mentioned.
I may see if my library has them. I seem to remember that the Brits, who arrived in their own ship, get the Americans to call the planet “Britannia” instead of its scientific designation and that the Germans, Italians and Japanese built a ship of their own. WWII was fought out on the new planet.